| highvoltage | good morning | 14:35 |
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| mhall119 | and a cold one too | 14:39 |
| mhall119 | 60F down here | 14:39 |
| charlie-tca | *gm, and all the way up to 33F here | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | good morning from Idaho | 14:55 |
| highvoltage | 3°C here, not sure what that is in F :) | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | umm, if I remember right, COLD? | 15:45 |
| mhall119 | in Floridian, that's F-ing COLD | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 16:12 |
| highvoltage | hehe | 16:18 |
| sbalneav | Am I reading this right? | 20:08 |
| sbalneav | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | yup | 20:08 |
| sbalneav | We're no longer using Gnome or Xorg? | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | it'll still run Gnome | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | and wayland can run xorg also | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | so any xorg app will run | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | there are current efforts to port GTK+ and QT to native wayland clients | 20:10 |
| mhall119 | it'll probably end up like OSX in a few years, where xorg is an add-on environment | 20:10 |
| jbicha | sbalneav: how were you meaning to read it? | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | but it won't happen for a while | 20:25 |
| mhall119 | and it sounds like it'll only be for Unity, not the "2d" gnome | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | I wonder how much the 2d gnome will actually work? It won't be installed by default, it won't use wayland, which will be the default. | 20:28 |
| charlie-tca | and I happen to own all nvidia cards | 20:28 |
| jbicha | yeah, but how long is Gnome upstream going to maintain gdm 2.x ? | 20:31 |
| highvoltage | wayland is a good idea, but I can't see how the transition to it can't suck. it's going to be an interesting few releases. | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | I read QT should be fully ported by 2012 ? | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | I am looking forward to it. Xorg kinda sucks already | 20:32 |
| highvoltage | charlie-tca: you think wayland is going to be nicer than x-org any time soon? :) | 20:33 |
| highvoltage | sure the design is nice, but it's going to take some time to get there | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca | I wouldn't dare think that way | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 20:34 |
| mhall119 | charlie-tca: 2d gnome will still be installed by default as far as I've heard | 20:42 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | saw on a bug report comment from Mark that it will not be on the live cd and and will not install by default | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | or maybe I misunderstood? | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | I thought it would be installed too. | 20:48 |
| mhall119 | Unity is still going to need > 90% of Gnome | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | I just have to wait to see it | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | I can't imagine metacity and the panels take up that much space on the livecd | 20:51 |
| charlie-tca | should be a testable version next week | 20:51 |
| sbalneav | IMHO, I originally switched over from Debian to Ubuntu because Ubuntu promised to be Debian with all the rough edges smoothed out. | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | It just gets better :-) | 20:54 |
| sbalneav | For me, no it doesn't. It's only gotten worse. :( | 20:54 |
| highvoltage | charlie-tca: indeed! we're going to have to do some waiting and seeing :) | 20:55 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: weren't you one of the people last weekend who laughed at me because I run debian on my netbook? | 20:56 |
| sbalneav | Nope. | 20:56 |
| sbalneav | I wasn't. | 20:56 |
| highvoltage | ah, ok. (good!) | 20:56 |
| sbalneav | I was the guy who was complaining about bug fixing :) | 20:56 |
| sbalneav | And harping on compiz :) | 20:57 |
| highvoltage | ah right | 20:57 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, we'll have to see. | 20:57 |
| highvoltage | I considered running Debian on my laptop too, but for the moment it's really convenient since most of my work happens around Ubuntu anyway | 20:57 |
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