[01:14] <kiz_> trying to setup my external dvd drive; getting error autorunning:cant find autorun program, any ideas?
[01:21] <zhangxinhui> df
[01:22] <zhangxinhui> who can explain the "BadMatch" error when i open some certain GTK App?
[01:24] <zhangxinhui> who can explain the "BadMatch" error when i open some certain GTK App
[01:42] <ilika> i cant login from gui (X login screen) it blinks red as if my info is wrong but I can login via console, whats wrong?
[02:02] <Mountain_> Hello all, Theraeare some way for change the "temperature monitor" widget from Fahrenheit for celsius ?
[02:03] <Mountain_> in kde 4.5
[02:05] <Mountain_> that widget just show in fahrenheit .....
[02:15] <Mountain_> someone ?
[03:13] <zhangxinhui> help
[04:07] <andrewh192> was wondering how in Quassel IRC how i setup a friends list
[04:38] <girlie_women> OMG Benny! You seem to be everywhere today!
[04:38] <Benny_Gecko> Huh? Oh yeah.
[04:38] <girlie_women> I didn't see you at the club today....how come?
[04:39] <Benny_Gecko> Ehm, I was busy doing something else.
[04:40] <Benny_Gecko> You know, that one thing.
[04:40] <Benny_Gecko> With the briefcase, and the Platinum CHip...
[04:40] <girlie_women> Don't tell me you hung out with that bitch Alice....
[04:41] <maco> listen up you two
[04:42] <maco> #ubuntu and #kubuntu are ONLY for tech support. if you want to just chatter on, do it in PM
[04:42] <maco> second, swearing is not permitted in any ubuntu channels
[04:42] <maco> Benny_Gecko: understood?
[04:42] <Benny_Gecko> I didn't swear!
[04:42] <maco> girlie_women: you got that?
[04:42] <maco> Benny_Gecko: but you were off topic
[04:42] <girlie_women> But a b**ch is just a female dog!
[04:43] <girlie_women> I got that, sir!
[04:43] <maco> which isnt what you meant
[04:43] <maco> also, obfuscated swearing is still swearing
[04:43] <maco> and i'm not a sir
[04:43] <maco> i have never been knighted
[04:43] <Benny_Gecko> I'll just stay quiet.
[04:43] <maco> nor am i a male officer in any branch of the military
[04:43] <girlie_women> What about off-topic?
[04:43] <girlie_women> -.-
[04:43] <girlie_women> AEAE
[04:43] <girlie_women> APAE
[04:43] <girlie_women> All People Are Equal in treatment'
[04:44] <maco> there is an #ubuntu-offtopic channel. swearing is still not allowed there.  hitting on people isn't either.
[04:45] <girlie_women> Fucking bitches....get the fuck out and get some sun instead of just sitting in your fucking chair shit on your computer all day...no-life motherfucking niggaz
[04:45] <Benny_Gecko> So, in this here off-topic channel, I can blather on about how uninteresting my life is?
[04:45] <girlie_women> My way of a dramatic exit :p
[04:46] <maco> Benny_Gecko: sure, though the rest of the channel's inhabitants will talk over you if you're too dul
[04:46] <Benny_Gecko> To be truthful, I never even knew that person. She keeps following me around.
[06:30] <tamas> good bye
[06:37] <andrewh192> hey, u guys know if there is a place on quassel to setup a notify list
[06:37] <andrewh192> or a friends list?
[06:45] <valorie> friends list?
[06:45] <valorie> for IRC?
[06:46] <valorie> I'm sure there is a way to do notify, however
[06:47] <valorie> in Konversation that is in Settings
[06:47] <valorie> I imagine Quassel is similar there
[06:47] <valorie> Help > Handbook for more info in most KDE apps
[07:20] <capo> il y a des français par hazard?
[07:28] <bdizzle> capo: #kubuntu-fr
[07:36] <rork> morning
[07:37] <nakhlawi> Hello. I just installed kubuntu 10.04.1, and the fonts are not as smooth as ubuntu. I turned anti-aliasing on but it still looks the same. How can I fix it?
[07:41] <WhitePelican> I just installed Maverick, and I still dn't have kde 4.5.3 - please help
[07:42] <valorie> WhitePelican: what's the problem?
[07:42] <valorie> I just upgraded to 4.5.3 without incident
[07:42] <WhitePelican> I don't know how to upgrade to 4.5.3
[07:43] <valorie> ah, see this: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.3
[07:43] <valorie> basically, you just add the PPA and update/upgrade
[07:44] <valorie> simple, fast, easy
[07:45] <WhitePelican> tyvm
[07:45] <WhitePelican> are any of the apps upgraded?
[07:47] <valorie> about 100 or so
[07:47] <valorie> lol
[07:47] <valorie> yes, lots of small upgrades
[07:49] <WhitePelican> ok cool :)
[07:49] <WhitePelican> I still miss the simplicity of kde 3
[07:55] <valorie> not me
[07:55] <valorie> I did for awhile, when 4 wasn't really ready for use
[07:55] <valorie> but never, now
[09:01] <crissi_> hello
[09:01] <crissi_> today after upgrade atl+f2 opens the run cli and it switches to text console!
[09:02] <crissi_> it should only switch to console if i press ctrl+alt+f2
[09:02] <crissi_> i looked at the system settings but i could not find what configures that
[09:02] <valorie> hmmm, works right here
[09:03] <valorie> do you have krunner installed?
[09:04] <crissi_> yes
[09:04] <crissi_> btw: 4.5.3 installed
[09:06] <valorie> yes, me too, a couple of hours ago
[09:06] <Incarus> is kubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:06] <crissi_> it works until today
[09:07] <crissi_> yes
[09:07] <Incarus> kubuntu had a couple of kde upgrade problems yesterday
[09:07] <crissi_> hrrr
[09:07] <Incarus> users of kde ppa
[09:07] <crissi_> yes
[09:13] <Incarus> crissi, check for new updates
[09:14] <crissi_> wait
[09:14] <crissi_> ppa?
[09:16] <Incarus> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[09:16] <crissi_> i know how to update
[09:16] <Incarus> i hope so ;D
[09:16] <ShorTie> how do you check a system sanity?
[09:17] <crissi_> nothing new
[09:17] <crissi_> mostly i use aptititude for updates
[09:18] <sakhi> how do I make my Kubuntu machine network point active even if I have loged off?
[09:18] <ShorTie> with gentoo you use revdep-rebuild, is there such a command for kubuntu?
[09:18] <sakhi> when I log off I cannot even ping it or ssh into the machine.
[09:18] <crissi_> is it really up? or shutdown
[09:19] <sakhi> it is up
[09:19] <crissi_> mayb if enabled etherwake could work
[09:19] <crissi_> needs to be eanbled in bios and  bios must support it
[09:19] <crissi_> you also need the mac address
[09:21] <Incarus> crissi_, can you post /etc/inittab ?
[09:39] <shubhadeep> hii
[09:49] <FlashDeluxe> hi! does anybody know a tool which can repair hardware raids?
[09:49] <FlashDeluxe> is it possible with mdam?
[09:49] <FlashDeluxe> *mdadm
[09:51] <alvin> FlashDeluxe: mdadm is only for software raid. What do you mean by 'repairing' a raid?
[09:53] <FlashDeluxe> alvin: i have two raids, both raid1 and after a power failure my system doesn`t boot anymore :/ i booted  knoppix and i see that the raid is corrupt, it is loaded by the raid controller but in the system i only see http://paste.debian.net/99071/ now i am looking for a solution to get my data back
[09:57] <alvin> Are you by any chance using LVM?
[09:57] <FlashDeluxe> alvin: yes there was lvm on it
[09:58] <FlashDeluxe> but i didnt find anything with pvck
[09:58] <alvin> In that case, give us the output of blkid
[09:58] <alvin> If you're using LVM, having no partition table on a disk is possible
[09:59] <FlashDeluxe> the output says /dev/cloop0: LABEL="KNOPPIX_FS" TYPE="iso9660"
[09:59] <alvin> I meant $ sudo blkid or # blkid
[10:00] <alvin> If it says /dev/sda: UUID="......" TYPE="LVM2_member", you're good
[10:00] <FlashDeluxe> i know what you meant, but thats all
[10:01] <alvin> Ow, not good. first, you want your partition table or volumes back, but none can be detected?
[10:01] <FlashDeluxe> right
[10:02] <alvin> Pretty weird for a RAID1
[10:02] <FlashDeluxe> yes it is
[10:08] <javier__> Hi. I have a problem after upgrading to 10.10. The first day had problems with NVIDIA driver and I removed it and changed to open source driver, so graphics work well. But next day my laptop couldnt recognize WLAN card and driver was also uninstalled. I installed driver again (unplugged driver Broadcom STA) but still can't detect any wireless (and there are some). Someone knows how to repair this? Thanks!
[10:14] <collabra> javier__, I suggest you maintain the 10.04 lts version of kubuntu,... my experience is that 10.10 is not a ready distro.... but that's just my opinion.
[10:14] <javier__> collabra: well, but going back there would mean reinstalling, and maybe that can be difficult once I'm at 10.10...
[10:15] <javier__> I would have to download distro and reinstall it, right? would it be easy to do that with lossing no personal data?
[10:15] <javier__> collabra: Im a bit amateur and I am a bit afraid of those things... that's why
[10:16] <javier__> collabra: anyway, it's something weird with this that I losed WLAN activity, because I have also installed Windows in a partition and it stopped there as well, so I'm thinking I could have broken somehow the hardware
[10:17] <collabra> javier__, let me help you get your wireless working,....you might have a different experience than i did with 10.10
[10:17] <javier__> collabra: that would be great if you help me
[10:17] <collabra> javier__, open a terminal and type:   sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces
[10:18] <javier__> done
[10:19] <javier__> auto lo
[10:19] <javier__> iface lo inet loopback
[10:19] <collabra> javier__, arrow down to the bottom and add at the end: auto wlan0
[10:20] <javier__> under "iface lo inter loopback, right?
[10:20] <javier__> line down that?
[10:20] <collabra> at the very end,... add room at the end by hitting <enter>
[10:20] <javier__> ok
[10:21] <collabra> hit <ctrl> <X>
[10:21] <collabra> hit 'Y'
[10:21] <collabra> and then hit <enter> to save it
[10:21] <javier__> ok, done
[10:22] <collabra> ok,... reboot, comeback here and tell me if your wireless adapter was activated.
[10:22] <collabra> i'll wait
[10:23] <javier__> ok
[10:25] <javier__> not luck
[10:25] <javier__> Im using KNM
[10:25] <Peace-> Mamarok: ping
[10:26] <Peace-> xD
[10:26] <javier__> and there it is not ticked "inalambric nets"
[10:26] <javier__> like, it says it's inavailable
[10:27] <javier__> collabra: also, my WLAN adapter has a light, blue when working, and orange when disconnected. Button is in the position of connected, but light remains orange and I cannot turn it to blue
[10:27] <collabra> javier__, hmmm,... do you only have one wireless device attached?
[10:28] <javier__> yes, only one... inside my laptop
[10:28] <collabra> javier__, can you turn it on or off with a switch?
[10:28] <Peace-> javier__: wifi trouble?
[10:29] <javier__> it exists that switch, but no matter the position, light shows disconnected always
[10:29] <collabra> Peace-, yes javier__ is having trouble
[10:29] <javier__> even in turned possition
[10:29] <javier__> mhm, that's it
[10:29] <Peace-> javier__: iwconfig
[10:29] <Peace-> in the terminal please
[10:29] <Peace-> !paste | javier__
[10:29] <collabra> Peace-, i tried to have him alter his /etc/network/interfaces    to include at the bottom auto wlan0,... i thought it would activate it on a reboot,... I'm out of ideas
[10:30] <Peace-> collabra: but it works ? or it's only alight problem
[10:30] <javier__> one day suddenly disconnected  wlan activity and I saw driver had been removed itselve. I installed it back but still dont get wireless information neither connection
[10:30] <Peace-> collabra: i mean if only the light ...
[10:30] <collabra> Peace-, please ask javier__
[10:30] <Peace-> collabra: ok ok
[10:30] <Peace-> javier__: please follow the white rabbit give me the iwconfig output
[10:30] <Peace-> xD
[10:31] <javier__> hehe, ok, Im going
[10:31] <javier__> it doesnt work, light is not really the problem :)
[10:32] <javier__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/526219/
[10:32] <Peace-> reading
[10:32] <collabra> Peace-,  kubuntu isnt' activating his wireless for some reason,... javier__ mentioned earlier that the wireless driver doesn't load??? i dunno
[10:33] <collabra> Peace-, you might ask him about that
[10:33] <javier__> so, what happened:
[10:33] <Peace-> javier__: ok sound bad the driver is not loaded
[10:33] <Peace-> *it sounds
[10:33] <Peace-> so
[10:33] <javier__> I connected my laptop and see no wlan activity
[10:33] <Peace-> javier__: it's a internal devices ?
[10:33] <Peace-> or a usb wifi ?
[10:33] <javier__> and then find no driver installed
[10:33] <javier__> today I connected wired
[10:33] <javier__> and installed driver
[10:33] <Peace-> wait wait
[10:33] <javier__> but still dont get wlan activity
[10:34] <Peace-> usb or internal
[10:34] <javier__> internal
[10:34] <Peace-> ok
[10:34] <Peace-> now lspci | grep -i network
[10:34] <chiiiiiz> Hello!!
[10:34] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: hi
[10:34] <javier__> collabra: 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[10:35] <Peace-> ok
[10:35] <javier__> Peace: 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[10:35] <Peace-> we get the beast
[10:35] <chiiiiiz> Is there any "Send to" action we can implement in the right click menu with Dolphin? How can I install it?
[10:35] <chiiiiiz> I have Kubuntu 10.10
[10:35] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: check in the service menu section on kde apps
[10:35] <Mamarok> Peace-: pong
[10:35] <Peace-> Mamarok: xD looks like i write in a topic on kde forum where you answered before xD
[10:35] <chiiiiiz> OK, I did not know this mùenu section, ... I give it a check
[10:36] <Mamarok> Peace-: which is?
[10:36] <Peace-> javier__: ok your wifi
[10:36] <Peace-> Mamarok: :)  guess thisone http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=91193&start=15
[10:36] <javier__> Peace-: my wife? what you mean
[10:36] <javier__> wifi
[10:36] <javier__> :)
[10:36] <Peace-> javier__: your wifi can be used in 2 ways
[10:37] <javier__> but what about wifi?
[10:37] <javier__> mmm
[10:37] <Peace-> the first with a open source driver + firmware
[10:37] <Peace-> the second with ndiswrapper + windows driver
[10:37] <Peace-> so now
[10:37] <Peace-> lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[10:37] <Peace-> empty?
[10:37] <Mamarok> Peace-: well, you are wrong on Pulseaudio, it is mandatory in Kubuntu 10.10 now, and it works fine. The only missing thing is pavucontrol which is not installed by default
[10:38] <javier__> Peace-: yes, didnt get anything
[10:38] <Mamarok> it was not needed in Lucid, though
[10:38] <Peace-> Mamarok: mm pulse is really a bad thing to a video editors like me
[10:38] <Peace-> Mamarok: i am using 10.10 without it
[10:38] <Peace-> :)
[10:38] <Mamarok> Peace-: well, that is something to complain about to the Ubuntu core devs
[10:38] <Peace-> Mamarok: i have to help the guy
[10:38] <Peace-> one moment :)
[10:39] <chiiiiiz> Peace: can you be more specific about where I can find it? In which submenu?
[10:39] <Peace-> javier__: os i guess you didn't use the ndiswrapper way
[10:39] <Peace-> javier__: have you upgraded the kernel?
[10:39] <javier__> no, no, never used it
[10:39] <Peace-> soemthing like that?
[10:39] <javier__> yes, i upgraded kernel also
[10:40] <Peace-> ok wait  a second
[10:40] <Peace-> i guess you have to read and follow a wiki tutorial to get it back
[10:40] <javier__> Peace-: ey, one thing
[10:41] <javier__> I mentioned before, that very same day I found the problem, i went to my windows distrubution and founf the samething
[10:41] <Peace-> ?
[10:41] <javier__> so, it may be that it's not recognizing my Wlan adapter, the hardware
[10:41] <Mamarok> Peace-: no problem, take your time
[10:41] <Peace-> javier__: you mean widnwos didn't see the card?
[10:41] <Peace-> windows?
[10:41] <javier__> mhm, that I mean
[10:42] <Peace-> omg
[10:42] <javier__> so, maybe it's just wroken
[10:42] <javier__> ?
[10:42] <javier__> broken
[10:42] <Peace-> mm i guess :D yes -.-
[10:42] <javier__> how can we see if there is a WLAN adapter?
[10:42] <Peace-> bad new :(
[10:42] <javier__> tipe something on terminal to check?
[10:42] <Peace-> javier__: i have seen that iwconfig doesnt show the stuff
[10:42] <javier__> mhm
[10:43] <Peace-> so looks like or the dirver is not on the kernel
[10:43] <Peace-> or... the device is broken
[10:43] <Peace-> but
[10:43] <Peace-> i guess that lspci should says nothing about the network
[10:43] <javier__> yes, it can be that. So, how could we check if device is broken?
[10:43] <Peace-> javier__: lspci | grep -i network
[10:44] <Peace-> shoudl not show the broadcom stuff if it si broken xD
[10:44] <Peace-> rigth
[10:44] <Peace-> right
[10:44] <Peace-> so
[10:44] <FloodBotK1> Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <javier__> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporat
[10:44] <Peace-> yea
[10:44] <Peace-> i mean if it was broken ...
[10:44] <javier__> mmm, so probably is not broken?
[10:44] <Peace-> it should not appear
[10:45] <Peace-> javier__: but on windows before it worked and then ...  ko?
[10:45] <javier__> it's also a bit strange that it would be broken, cause I go to KNM applet and it shows that there is WLAN, but just say "not connecte"
[10:45] <javier__> mhm, just it
[10:45] <javier__> one day was working, next day wasnt
[10:45] <javier__> and also driver was uninstalled
[10:46] <Peace-> the driver is not unistalled
[10:46] <Peace-> but the kernel loads the driver
[10:46] <Peace-> when it needs them
[10:46] <javier__> ok
[10:46] <Peace-> javier__: maybe you have only to extract again the firmware
[10:46] <javier__> waw, how do you do that?
[10:47] <Peace-> i am searching on the wiki
[10:47] <Peace-> wait
[10:47] <javier__> ok
[10:47] <chiiiiiz> Peace: this menu does not exist with me. I have no service files in .../share/kde4/... so no service menu. Shall this be created manually, or am I missing a additonal package?
[10:48] <Machtin> let's say kubuntu keeps freezing from time to time. How would I find out why it froze after a reboot?
[10:48] <Peace-> Machtin: on x log
[10:49] <Peace-> Machtin: serach on kde bar log
[10:49] <Machtin> kde bar log?
[10:49] <Peace-> Machtin: dok i mean
[10:49] <Peace-> dock
[10:49] <Machtin> i don't really get thet.. is that some kind of logfile?
[10:50] <Peace-> javier__: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:50] <Peace-> javier__: the wifi interface shoudl appear when you type
[10:50] <Peace-> iwconfig
[10:50] <chiiiiiz> OK , I found a howto to create such a service... Ive learned something more today. Good!!
[10:51] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: :)
[10:51] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: service menu are pretty easy to do
[10:51] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: i have made a lots
[10:51] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: like this http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/akm-video-qt?content=134476
[10:52] <chiiiiiz> Peace: I guess so, I am used to work with Nautilus, and there is the nautilus-sendto package... I figured KDE had the same...
[10:52] <chiiiiiz> thanks for the tip
[10:53] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: feels free to ask or copy my service menu
[10:53] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: expecially the kdenlive service menu xD
[10:53] <chiiiiiz> Thanks, I'll give it a try
[10:54] <chiiiiiz> my knowledge in scripting is very close to.... 0 :D
[10:54] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: deosn't matter service menu can be down with out scriopt
[10:55] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: if you want see a very easy service menu just look a this one
[10:55] <godmok> hi, is there a funktion to scroll in a window by mouseclick + drag?
[10:55] <Peace-> chiiiiiz: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/lprinter-qt?content=111784
[10:55] <chiiiiiz> thanks again
[10:55] <chiiiiiz> must reboot
[10:58] <javier__> Peace-: ufff, i read it, but dont really know what to do
[10:58] <Peace-> javier__: wow :)
[10:59] <javier__> I read about that b43 driver, and remember I had it before working
[10:59] <javier__> but i try to follow instructions for installing it without success
[10:59] <Peace-> lsmod | grep b43
[10:59] <javier__> actually, it tells me those packages are installed, but I cannot activate them throw "additional drivers" in settings, cause that driver doesnt appear there
[11:00] <Peace-> javier__: i will suggest to read my article about the driver
[11:00] <Peace-> i guess you could understand a lots
[11:00] <javier__> it gives no answer
[11:01] <javier__> it just says that b43-fwcutter is installed in the newest version
[11:01] <Peace-> javier__: yea b43 fwcutter is used to extract the firmware
[11:01] <javier__> but I go to aditional drivers and cannot find it there, so I cannot activate it
[11:02] <Peace-> javier__: read this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/kubuntu-904-driver/
[11:02] <chiiiiiz> Peace: I see it is very easy to create indeed..
[11:02] <collabra> javier__, I kinda want to say again that IF you can't get 10.10 working properly,... i never did,... just think about going back to 10.04 lts.... and be glad it stable and actually works.... I feel ubuntu should apologize to 10.10 user who have had a bad experience... I certainly did.  :(
[11:03] <collabra> just sayin'....
[11:03]  * Peace- eat
[11:03] <javier__> hehe, agree a bit collabra
[11:03] <Machtin> Peace-: btw. it's not X that crashes, but the system.
[11:04] <Machtin> i can't do anything.. it's just freezing sometimes. can't activate num e.g.
[11:05] <javier__> Peace-: with sudo nano /etc/modules
[11:05] <javier__> I see which drivers are loaded in kernel
[11:05] <javier__> i can add this b43 there
[11:05] <javier__> but, which name do you thing I should add?
[11:06] <javier__> just "b43"?=
[11:06] <Incarus> try modporbe
[11:06] <Incarus> modprobe
[11:06] <javier__> how modrobe?
[11:06] <Incarus> sudo modprobe b43
[11:07] <Incarus> no error = works ;D
[11:07] <javier__> no answer=guess works
[11:07] <Incarus> right
[11:08] <javier__> mhm
[11:08] <javier__> I just have the feeling, if I go back to 10.04, it won't work neither
[11:08] <javier__> how to go back to 10.04 with loosing no personal data?
[11:08] <Incarus> downgrade? not sure if that would work
[11:09] <javier__> waw, this is difficult then :)
[11:09] <javier__> Incarus: do you know how to check if my WLAN device is not broken?
[11:10] <Incarus> yeah, insert a live cd and test it ;D
[11:10] <Incarus> you said it worked in 10.04? so burn a 10.04 live cd
[11:10] <javier__> hehehe, but I dont have a live cd
[11:11] <javier__> ok. Its only that is difficult, because dont have internet at home, Im at work, it will take time... hehe. But if there are no other possibilities...
[11:11] <Incarus> grub can also boot from images I think
[11:12] <javier__> mmm, I didnt understand that very last thing
[11:13] <Incarus> nevermind.
[11:13] <javier__> so, guess I have to download back there
[11:13] <Incarus> how did you install 10.04?
[11:13] <javier__> upgraded from 9.10
[11:13] <javier__> im in kubuntu since 8.04
[11:14] <javier__> everytime upgraded successfully, except this last one :)
[11:14] <javier__> actually, worked well the first 5 days
[11:14] <javier__> but not better than LTS
[11:14] <Incarus> its important to allways have an actuall live cd ^^
[11:14] <javier__> mhm
[11:14] <javier__> I will learn that. But also, my laptop doesnt have CD reader
[11:15] <javier__> well, it's broken
[11:15] <Incarus> live usb.
[11:15] <javier__> but I think I can use 10.04 from USB device, no?
[11:15] <javier__> mhm
[11:15] <javier__> so, that im going to do now
[11:15] <Incarus> you can boot from usb if your computer could.
[11:15] <javier__> by the one, I'll ask you for one advice
[11:16] <javier__> my computer is 64 bits, but one of my main problems I have had all the time, is that it  overheats
[11:16] <javier__> would 32 bits keep it colder?
[11:16] <javier__> i may choose that one then
[11:16] <javier__> (now Im in 64 bits
[11:17] <Incarus> never use 64 bit
[11:17] <Incarus> im not a fan of that
[11:17] <javier__> ok :)
[11:17] <Incarus> doenst have any sense. you just have a lot of software problems with that
[11:17] <Incarus> eg. drivers.
[11:17] <javier__> and, when I go back to 10.04, will I loose personal data in the process
[11:17] <javier__> ?
[11:17] <Incarus> there is a possibility to downgrade
[11:18] <javier__> I know I will tell not to format my data partition
[11:18] <javier__> ammm
[11:18] <javier__> how?
[11:18] <javier__> how downgrade?
[11:18] <Incarus> http://www.khattam.info/howto-downgrading-from-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-to-9-10-karmic-koala-2010-03-15.html
[11:18] <Incarus> use at your own risk
[11:19] <Incarus> just use 10.04 instead
[11:19] <Peace-> javier__: i guess you could try a live cd
[11:19] <Peace-> of older kubuntu
[11:19] <javier__> mhm, guess so
[11:20] <Peace-> but what i think its device broken
[11:20] <Peace-> you have to investage better
[11:21] <Incarus> seems to be a regression for me, but you can try a live cd first
[11:22] <javier__> Incarus: so, i need one advice. i have separated partition for /home, so i will say not to format that. Just I will format / partition and install there 10.04, right?
[11:22] <Peace-> righ
[11:22] <javier__> ok
[11:22] <javier__> so
[11:23] <Peace-> smart guy :)
[11:23] <javier__> i will investigate if my device is broken, and if not, go back to 10.04
[11:23] <Peace-> but you don't need of
[11:23] <Peace-> install again just the live cd
[11:23] <Incarus> take attention wih the hidden config files in /home
[11:23] <javier__> live cd 10.10 or 10.04?
[11:24] <Peace-> Incarus: javier__ you have not create a new user to avoid problem
[11:24] <Peace-> i mean not the same name for different installations
[11:24] <Peace-> user1 for kubuntu 10.xx user2 for kubuntu xx.xx
[11:24] <javier__> but you mean create a new partition with new kubuntu?
[11:25] <Peace-> no
[11:26] <Peace-> username must be different
[11:26] <javier__> so i will replace
[11:26] <javier__> so, in that case, i will have a new home "/user2" and keep "/Javier" or is not related with home?
[11:27] <Peace-> javier__: yes
[11:27] <Peace->  /home/javeier
[11:27] <Peace->  /home/user2
[11:28] <javier__> if I would give the same name, i would loose the information?
[11:28] <Peace-> it could be some problems with x
[11:28] <javier__> ok
[11:28] <javier__> so
[11:28] <Peace-> and kde version errors
[11:28] <Peace-> stuff like that
[11:28] <Peace-> i mean different kde version has different configurations file
[11:29] <javier__> installing, if posible from live cd, kubuntu 10.xx, formating partition where i have Kubuntu 10.10 (patition /) and with a new user name
[11:30] <Incarus> Peace-, isn't it better if we haunt the problem and do not rate him to downgrade? I mean 10.10 must work as good as 10.04 and I'm sure he is not the only one with that problem
[11:31] <Peace-> Incarus: well i have seen a strange thing here
[11:31] <Peace-> Incarus: he said windows doen't recognize the device
[11:31] <Peace-> but before day x it did
[11:31] <Peace-> so ...
[11:31] <Peace-> then lspci list the device
[11:31] <Peace-> but iwconfig no
[11:32] <Peace-> so the driver is not loaded
[11:32] <Incarus> so downgrade wouldnt make any sense, Peace-
[11:32] <Peace-> the kernel load driver dinamically so looks like he device is not plugged?
[11:32] <Peace-> Incarus: infact
[11:32] <Peace-> i have said to use a live cd
[11:32] <Peace-> just in case ...
[11:32] <Incarus> javier__, buy another wlan device ;D
[11:33] <Peace-> Incarus: a live cd doesn't cost
[11:33] <Peace-> a wlan device yes
[11:33] <Peace-> xD
[11:33] <javier__> Incarus: hehehe, it can be that it is broken
[11:33] <Peace-> Incarus:i suspect this
[11:33] <Peace-> Incarus: the device is broken
[11:33] <Peace-> but with low temperature could work
[11:33] <Peace-> then with the temperature grows up
[11:33] <Peace-> it doesn't
[11:33] <Peace-> i guess
[11:33] <Peace-> could xD
[11:33] <Peace-> i dunno
[11:33] <FloodBotK1> Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <Incarus> doont flood dude :D second time
[11:34] <javier__> or just doesnt work never
[11:34] <Peace-> Incarus: xD
[11:34] <Incarus> javier__, you would have less problems if you would use 32 bit
[11:34] <javier__> well, also happens that to me, i use 64 bit
[11:34] <javier__> long time i discovered that was a mistake
[11:35] <javier__> but I was new in this when I chose :)
[11:35] <Peace-> mmm
[11:35]  * Peace- used always 32
[11:36] <Incarus> my second os is also win 7 32 bit, not 64
[11:36] <javier__> mhm
[11:36] <javier__> ok
[11:37] <Incarus> offtopic / But waht I wanted to say is, that 64 bit could cause a lot of driver problems, so it could caus your driver problem.
[11:37] <javier__> im downloading the 32 bit live cd
[11:37] <javier__> and then i will try
[11:37] <javier__> thanks a lot for everything
[11:37] <javier__> i think i will have to leave
[11:37] <FloodBotK1> javier__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <javier__> but it was good to share the morning, hehehe. And I dont flood more XD
[11:39] <javier__> Incarus: hopefully i will solve my problem with your help
[11:40] <Peace-> bye
[11:43] <javier__> bye
[11:45] <feng_> anyone use pidgin with gtalk plugin?
[11:45] <dygituljunky> feng_: I do
[11:46] <dygituljunky> I don't use it for voice, though
[11:46] <feng_> when i try  to the use webcam
[11:46] <feng_> (Pidgin:13720): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: g_simple_async_result_complete() called from wrong context!
[11:46] <dygituljunky> ah, sorry, mine is a basic business laptop without camera or mic. I haven't had a chance to try voice or video...
[11:47] <feng_> feng@feng:/dev$ ls |grep video
[11:47] <feng_> video0
[11:48] <feng_> thank you dygituljunky
[11:48] <dygituljunky> yw, feng_. sorry I couldn't help
[11:52] <Incarus> why dont you use kopete? pidgin is a gnome software. http://amazing-development.com/archives/2006/01/20/using-google-talk-with-kopete/
[11:54] <Incarus> off
[11:54] <Peace-> maybe becuase it's an irc stuff too?
[11:55] <Peace-> i have heard that gtk stuff integrates a lots of protocols
[11:55] <Peace-> that kopete doesn't
[11:55] <Peace-> but i have *heard*
[11:55]  * Peace- never installed gtk stuff
[11:55] <dygituljunky> Incarus: I use pidgin because I use it on the windows computers I have to use, too. All the commands are in the same place on pidgin-window and pidgin-linux. I also use Adium which behaves somewhat similarly.
[11:56] <Peace-> dygituljunky: kde can be  run on windows xD
[11:57] <Kalidarn> yeah i've been tempted to try that out how well dos it run on windows?
[11:57] <Peace-> konqueror dolphin kopete digikam
[11:57] <Kalidarn> <3 kopete
[11:57] <Peace-> i have installed a lots of kde on windows
[11:57] <Peace-> anyway it's offtopic i guess
[11:57] <Kalidarn> does kopete work?
[11:58] <Peace-> Kalidarn: i have made sometime ago... now i use only linux
[11:58] <Peace-> Kalidarn: because i can do my video stuff automatically with kdenliuve xD
[11:58] <Peace-> kdenlive
[11:58] <Kalidarn> yeah so do i, but unfortunately sometimes i have to use windows :P
[11:58] <dygituljunky> Peace-: only if you have permission to install it. ;P The one windows machine I *have* to use is a Remote Desktop Protocol server at work. I don't even work on the local machine but use it to log in to a server in another building somewhere.
[11:58] <Peace-> dygituljunky: oh
[12:00] <dygituljunky> I've wondered about trying KDE on the Windows half of this laptop but I fail to see the purpose when I can use KDE in it's native OS. :D
[12:01] <feng_> the kate in window is my love
[12:01] <Peace-> xD
[12:04] <dygituljunky> I've actually just started using KDE after being a gnome guy for a very long time. Plasmoids turned me off of KDE initially. After goofing up my LinuxMint gnome installation somehow I watched some videos about KDE while stuck on that machine at work and decided to give plasmoids another shot.
[12:07] <JuJuBee> I can't seem to open konsole from gui. I get http://pastie.org/1274674 when I try opening konsole from gnome-terminal
[12:07] <Peace-> dygituljunky: plasmoid are not so funny
[12:07] <Peace-> dygituljunky: i don't use them
[12:07] <Peace-> dygituljunky: i use folder view way so normal desktop
[12:08] <dygituljunky> know what made me get frustrated with gnome? The way panels store the location of panel items within a panel so that the items aren't left/right aligned if I resize the resolution
[12:08] <Peace-> JuJuBee: looks like a mixed system?
[12:09] <Peace-> dygituljunky: mm ok but it's offtopic :)
[12:09] <Peace-> !offtopic | dygituljunky
[12:09] <Peace-> better on that chat
[12:09] <Peace-> :)
[12:12] <JuJuBee> Peace-: I have a couple of gnome apps installed, but not much
[12:34] <werkstatt> hi
[12:47] <gvandeweyer> is it possible to change the targetpw beheaviour of sudo (ie ask for target password) on a per-user basis?
[12:47] <gvandeweyer> ubuntu does not have root password, i don't want to enable it, but I need a user to sudo as another, non-root user, with the target password
[12:57] <dea> xz
[12:57] <dea> hello E B D
[13:04] <shadeslayer> hey
[13:04] <shadeslayer> any users on Lucid + KDE 4.5.1 and above?
[13:04] <dea> NO P@P
[13:04] <Tm_T> yes?
[13:05] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: any issues till now?
[13:05] <shadeslayer> specially with Qt 4.7
[13:05] <Tm_T> nope, nada
[13:05] <shadeslayer> ok, im just checking the level of Quality that the PPA is offering
[13:06] <shadeslayer> any upgrade issues?
[13:06] <Tm_T> cannot remember
[13:06] <shadeslayer> alright....
[13:06] <Tm_T> possibly, or more likely were, considering my system
[13:06] <shadeslayer> why? :)
[13:07] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: I have lots of devel packages and alike installed, something you don't find on average system I suppose (:
[13:07] <shadeslayer> anyone else having issues with Qt 4.7 on lucid? :P
[13:07] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: ah ok...
[13:08] <Incarus> there were some upgrade problems yesterday / the day before yesterday with 4.5.3
[13:08] <shadeslayer> Incarus: right, that was because some of the stuff wasnt copied properly
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Incarus: anything problematic with Qt 4.7 ?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> any apps that behave weirdly and/or crash with Qt 4.7 but were not crashing with Qt 4.7
[13:11] <Incarus> not that i know of, shadeslayer. but have a look: bugs.kde.org
[13:22] <Incarus> shadeslayer, have you got more infos about that upgrade problem to 4.5.3? any links?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> Incarus: it just worked for me when i did it yesterday
[13:23] <shadeslayer> what error does apt throw at you?
[13:23] <Incarus> wait a second
[13:25] <Incarus> shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/670788 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/670813
[13:28] <shadeslayer> Incarus: can you run : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from a konsole?
[13:29] <shadeslayer> and the error at the bottom of the bug report suggests that the PPA hadnt published some packages when you upgraded
[13:30] <Incarus> shadeslayer, problem is fixed. I know several ppl, who had the same problem. I thougt you had more information about the cause of that problem
[13:30]  * gnomefreak confused :(
[13:30] <Incarus> nevermind ;D
[13:31] <gnomefreak> .:09:11:23:. <     shadeslayer > any apps that behave weirdly and/or crash with  Qt 4.7 but were not crashing with Qt 4.7
[13:31] <Incarus> *4.6
[13:31] <gnomefreak> thanks much better :)
[13:31] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: sorry... that was supposed to be 4.6 :D
[13:32] <shadeslayer> Incarus: the issue is that launchpad somehow did not publish all the packages after they were copied from the staging PPA
[13:32] <shadeslayer> even when the page said it had...
[13:33] <Incarus> that was some really stupid mistake
[13:33] <shadeslayer> blame launchpad :P
[13:33] <Incarus> because noe one could boot after that upgrade
[13:33] <Incarus> Üno
[13:33] <Incarus> argh
[13:33] <Incarus> *no
[13:33] <FloodBotK1> Incarus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <Incarus> thank you
[13:34] <Incarus> i will use a paste service next time :D
[13:35] <shadeslayer> Incarus: id suggest that if you get any upgrade issues in the future, come poke us in #kubuntu-devel
[13:35] <gnomefreak> Incarus: its just that you used <enter> too much
[13:35] <Incarus> i dont need help for that. fixed it by hand
[13:35] <Incarus> gnomefreak, i know, i was just joking
[13:39] <shadeslayer> ok... well if anyone else has issues on Qt 4.6, please leave a message highlighting me :)
[13:39] <shadeslayer> bah
[13:39] <shadeslayer> s/4.6/4.7
[13:40] <Incarus> shadeslayer, why? have you an issue with 4.7?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> Incarus: im doing some QA work....
[13:47] <plan_rich> hey can somebody help me with the kde desktop effekts? i'm sitting infront of a fresh installed kubuntu version and these effekts are not working? what sould i do to make them work?
[13:49] <otswim> hi, i've been having a problem ever since i've upgraded to 10.10, my system doesn't seem very stable, and one problem for instance is that knetworkmanager's icon does not appear in the system tray
[13:49] <Incarus> plan_rich, what graphic card you got?
[13:50] <Incarus> otswim, you can try the newer version of kde (4.5.3) instead of the default one (4.5.1): http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.3
[13:52] <otswim> Incarus: thanks i'll try; how can i add ppa:kubuntu-ppa to my sources.lst?
[13:52] <Incarus> otswim, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:53] <otswim> thanks, it's upgrading
[13:59] <otswim> also, what's the default desktop theme? is it Air?
[14:00] <Incarus> yes
[14:01] <Incarus> im using glassified for panels and air-oxygen for windows
[14:08] <shadeslayer> otswim: right click panel > settings > Tick Network management
[14:09] <otswim> shadeslayer: in system tray settings?
[14:10] <shadeslayer> otswim: yes
[14:11] <otswim> shadeslayer: i don't have 'network management' maybe i disabled it somewhere? :/
[14:12] <naftilos76> hi, which app is recommended for s/w development that contains visual controls drag and drop , debuging etc?
[14:20] <otswim> i still have the same problem with 4.5.3; also, my kde crashes at startup, but then it restarts and works
[14:21] <Incarus> 32 or 64 bit?
[14:21] <Incarus> could be a problem with your graphic card
[14:22] <otswim> Incarus: my computer is 64, but i think my system is 32
[14:23] <otswim> at startup, a nvidia logo appears with "beta driver" written in read
[14:27] <otswim> i'll come another time
[14:27] <otswim> see you
[14:40]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[14:47]  * CRACK05 is away (Gone)
[14:57] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:00] <Sally__> ...
[15:00] <daved92pol1> ..
[15:16] <i3ooi3oo> I'm having some major issue
[15:17] <i3ooi3oo> it's exactly like this guy's account http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608902.
[15:17] <i3ooi3oo> Execpt my wine didn't crash i updated it.
[15:36] <i3ooi3oo> I'm having some major issue
[15:52] <SH0x> does anyone using thunderbird with enigmail on 64bit? can u confirm its working or not
[15:55] <buu_> OK, I want to know witch one is lighter to run on P3 machine, kde 3.5 or kde4?
[16:08] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have just starting using qt in Kubuntu 10.10 and think that it's got a great interface! I have been working with Borland C++ Builder in windows for years! However, in Qt i am experiencing a difficulty in accessing a simple lineEdit control when i push a button! How do i access the lineEdit control? For example i tried changing its' text property but while building the project i get an error msg saying that 'lineEdit was not
[16:08] <naftilos76> declared in this scope' . This is propably a stupid mistake of mine! Can anybody pls enlighten me?
[16:09] <DarthFrog> naftilos76: You'd be more likely to get the help you need in #kubunut-devel.
[16:09] <Riddell> naftilos76, DarthFrog: actually #qt or #kde-devel better for coding questions
[16:09] <DarthFrog> Even better. :-)
[16:10] <naftilos76> thanks guys
[16:10] <Riddell> I expect you're just getting the name of the lineEdit widget wrong
[16:11] <Riddell> naftilos76: putting the code in a pastebin would be more likely to get help
[16:22] <[mors]> hello !
[16:23] <[mors]> how will replacing X with wayland affect kubuntu ?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> replacing X with wayland?  what is wayland?
[16:26] <cjae> <[mors] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server%29
[16:26] <Pici> Its a better topic for #ubuntu+!
[16:26] <Pici> er, #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <cjae> Wayland is currently a developing technology that is not known to be in use. Wayland is not currently seen as being able to replace the X.Org Server, but has other potential uses such as hosting X servers and GDM logins.[3]
[16:26] <cjae> On November 4, 2010, Mark Shuttleworth announced that Ubuntu would be looking at using Wayland as the display server for its Unity interface (although not in the 11.04 release).[10]
[16:28]  * synaptix has never 'eard of it.
[16:37] <[mors]> question was: how will it affectkubuntu, given that it uses Qt/KDE
[16:37] <[mors]> ?
[16:58] <progre55> hmm.. the new kubuntu manual partitioning sux.. wanted to install kubuntu next to a windows, so I chose "custom partitioning", and resized the windows partition. and now I have 404Gb of "unusable" partition that I cant even change =) when I choose it and say "Install now" kubuntu says "no root file system defined". but I cant even change this "unused partition now..
[16:58] <progre55> any suggestions, please?
[17:05] <Space_Man> progre55: you need to define a root partition :P  select "/" and the partition type ext3, ext4 etc
[17:08] <progre55> Space_Man: but I cannot change this "unusable" partition now.. it's 404 gigs)
[17:08] <progre55> when you select it, there is only one button clickable, "undo all changes", but it does nothing )
[17:09] <progre55> and other than this "unusable partition", I have a couple of nfs partitions used by windows, but cant resize them any further.. only 60G left for windows)
[17:12] <olskolirc> how do I get pico/nano to wrap long lines please?
[18:19] <i3ooi3oo> I'm having some major issue
[18:19] <i3ooi3oo> it's exactly like this guy's account http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608902.
[18:28] <Reign1> question: how to enable network in 10.04 if i did "disable network" via knetworkmanager. now i cant enable it
[18:29] <Peace-> Reign1: ok
[18:29] <Peace-> just a second i find the stuff
[18:30] <Peace-> cat /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state
[18:30] <Peace-> plesase
[18:30] <Reign1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/555571
[18:30] <Reign1> yet, just found that, ty Peace-
[18:31] <i3ooi3oo> any idea what I can do Peace-
[18:31] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: what a nick ...
[18:31] <Peace-> i was answering oyu
[18:31] <Peace-> but i hav confused the i with l
[18:31] <Peace-> so i didn't autocompled
[18:32] <Peace-> ..
[18:32] <Peace-> wait i will read
[18:32] <i3ooi3oo> I never saw it.
[18:32] <Peace-> Reign1: you can find the solution here http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/network-management-disabled-after-suspend-to-ram-kubuntu-10-04/
[18:33] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: you are a 2 years old user?
[18:33] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: i have read well
[18:33] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: but another user works?
[18:34] <i3ooi3oo> I am not 2 years old...
[18:34] <Peace-> linux uuser
[18:35] <i3ooi3oo> that is not my post but it is the only thing that came up when searching google for my problem
[18:35] <i3ooi3oo> I have used linux for more than 5 years.
[18:35] <Peace-> so...
[18:35] <Peace-> another user has worked?
[18:36] <Peace-> or not
[18:36] <Peace-> i repeat i am a quite busy i can't read all that stuff
[18:36] <i3ooi3oo> I don't have any other users create on this computer.
[18:36] <Peace-> so create
[18:36] <i3ooi3oo> *created
[18:36] <i3ooi3oo> How if I can't type
[18:36] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: recovery kernel dropeed to root shell?
[18:37] <i3ooi3oo> Ok, I'll try that
[18:37] <Peace-> adduser myname
[18:37] <Peace-> adduser myname admin
[18:37] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/
[18:37] <i3ooi3oo> I have tried to logon to ctrl-alt-f1 but never get a login prompt
[18:38] <Peace-> no no
[18:38] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: read that
[18:38] <Peace-> you have to see this
[18:38] <Peace-> http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/hpim5572.jpg
[18:43] <otswim> hello, i'm having a problem with kde since i've upgraded to kubuntu 10.10; knetworkmanager does not appear in the system tray and kde crashes at startup (even though it restarts right after)
[18:46] <Peace-> otswim: try to rename $HOME/.kde
[18:46] <Peace-> logout
[18:46] <Peace-> log in
[18:49] <i3ooi3oo> New users has the same problem Peace-
[18:50] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: mmm bad bad thing
[18:50] <i3ooi3oo> yea, happened after an update
[18:50] <Peace-> kde is messed
[18:50] <Peace-> up
[18:50] <Peace-> ok
[18:50] <Peace-> try to do this
[18:50] <Peace-> i dunno if it works or not
[18:51] <Peace-> but well  you have no choise
[18:51] <Peace-> 10.10 or 10.04?
[18:51] <i3ooi3oo> 10.10 I think
[18:52] <Peace-> lsb_release -a
[18:52] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: ...
[18:53] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: if it's 10.10 you should try this http://pastebin.ca/1983106
[18:53] <i3ooi3oo> I was wrong 10.04
[18:53] <Peace-> ok
[18:53] <Peace-> so wait
[18:54] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: http://pastebin.ca/1983107
[18:55] <i3ooi3oo> That's going to be fun to type into a recovery console.
[18:55] <Peace-> ok
[18:55] <Peace-> wait i will do the script
[18:56] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: save this file http://pastebin.ca/1983109 like myscript.sh
[18:56] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: then
[18:56] <Peace-> chmod +x myscript.sh
[18:56] <Peace-> then
[18:57] <Peace-> run as root by typing
[18:57] <Peace-> ./whereyousaved/myscript.sh
[18:57] <Peace-> 5 years of linux and you can't handle it omg
[18:58] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: remember to choose netroot
[18:59] <i3ooi3oo> I know how to run a script though I wil  have problems getting on that computer... I will figure it out
[18:59] <i3ooi3oo> Thanks
[19:00] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: you can use alway recovery kernel
[19:01] <Peace-> what's the problem
[19:01] <Peace-> save that script on an usb stick
[19:01] <Peace-> dunno
[19:01] <Peace-> it's simple
[19:01] <Peace-> use a live cd to save the script somewhere
[19:02] <i3ooi3oo> already reloading
[19:03] <i3ooi3oo> I wasn't sure recovery console had access to the USB
[19:35] <i3ooi3oo> woot I can type.... Thanks again Peace-
[19:37] <Peace-> i3ooi3oo: well
[19:42] <i3ooi3oo> Thanks
[19:45] <rats_> hi all can anyone tell me if I do a disy upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 will it upgrade alsa to pulse
[19:45] <rats_> dist upgrade sry
[19:53] <Peace-> rats_: yes pulse will be installed
[19:53] <Peace-> rats_: but you can remove it
[19:53] <Peace-> !upgrade ! rats_
[19:53] <Peace-> -.-
[19:54] <Peace-> !upgrade | rats_
[19:59] <rats_> ubottu: thanks 10.04 runs super but i have heard alot off good about 10.10
[20:02] <Peace-> rats_: mm keep 10,04
[20:02] <Peace-> if one system works good
[20:02] <Peace-> keep that system 10.04 is supported for 3 year
[20:03] <rats_> Peace-: I can't go back to 10.04 right
[20:04] <rats_> without fresh install
[20:04]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[20:25] <barraponto_> how do i use ktorrent ip filter
[20:25] <barraponto_> ?
[20:42] <skafti> hei
[20:42] <skafti> how can i open a ntfs mounted usb drive in computer
[20:42] <skafti> ?
[20:44] <i3ooi3oo> mount -t ntfs /dev/... /mount/location
[20:46] <kieppie> hi guys. I just installed kubuntu in addition to a gnome desktop. I've defined my hidden wireless network configuration , but I do not know & cannot see how to establish the connection. any help please?
[20:47] <Peace-> kieppie: mm
[20:47] <Peace-> kieppie: there is wicd-qt
[20:47] <Peace-> that is a nicer gui for this stuff
[20:48] <kieppie> sorry, but I should've explained. I'm familiar withthe extra tools like wicd, but I'd like to use the default setup, if possible
[20:49] <kieppie> ... hidden wireless SSID
[20:50] <Peace-> kieppie: well i am a old kubuntu user and i have seen a lots of people getting mad with the standard network manager
[20:50] <Peace-> on gnome and kde
[20:50] <Peace-> always because the doemon is the same
[20:50] <Peace-> i guess the best choise is wicd doemon
[20:50] <Peace-> and a wicd interface
[20:50] <Peace-> if you wanna become mad your ways
[20:50] <kieppie> true, but with gnome the default install actually works. I like wicd, but VPN support is pretty poor
[20:50] <Peace-> way
[20:51]  * Peace- it's a video editor mainly
[20:52] <Peace-> daemon xD
[21:07] <kieppie> Peace-: installed wicd. still no dice
[21:08] <kieppie> is KDE incapable of connecting to hidden WiFi networks at all?
[21:17] <mdo-ollantaytamb> alguanaaa
[21:24] <redwolf1994> hello?
[21:26] <redwolf1994> so quiet here
[21:28] <redwolf1994> how come there is so many people in here and no one is talking?
[21:31] <i3ooi3oo> cause we don't like you
[21:40] <rats_> nobody has proublems with Kubuntu
[21:42] <redwolf1994> so this is the place where you can help people with problems with kubuntu?
[21:51] <progre55> hi guys. how do you create an "extended" partition while installing ubuntu? I have 4 primary windows partitions, and as that's the max number of partitions, I'm deleting one of the recovery partitions. Then everywhere I read, they say you need to create an extended partition and that it can include swap in it.. but which options is that?
[21:52] <redwolf1994> i dont know anyone here is alive to say anything here
[21:53] <redwolf1994> except me and progre55 lol
[21:53] <progre55> =)
[21:53] <redwolf1994> im new to kubuntu as well and still learning
[21:57] <progre55> well, I'm not that new, but still got issues )
[21:59] <valorie> progre55: are you installing from the LiveCD?
[21:59] <valorie> or from the alternate install
[21:59] <valorie> you have a lot more choices from alternate
[21:59] <valorie> I think it's worth the download and time to write to thumb drive
[22:01] <Kage> I have a question about setting up dual monitors
[22:02] <progre55> valorie: from a liveCD
[22:02] <progre55> valorie: I guess I should probably say "try" and use gparted..
[22:02] <valorie> progre55: if you have the time and equipment, I strongly suggest the alternate install
[22:03] <valorie> liveCD is great for uncomplicated
[22:03] <progre55> valorie: well okay, let me try to download it then )
[22:03] <valorie> it's a smaller dl, too
[22:03] <valorie> :-)
[22:03] <valorie> since it's all text
[22:05] <progre55> valorie: oh so it doesnt have a gui? hope I can figure out how to install and all )
[22:05] <progre55> 25 mins to download..
[22:06] <valorie> I'm done it, and I'm the least techie person around
[22:06] <progre55> lol )
[22:06] <progre55> valorie: well, hope you're still going to be online in half an hour.. if anything goes wrong, I'll come to you! :D
[22:07] <valorie> I'll do my best, but there are lots of experts here
[22:07] <ruediger_> hallo
[22:07] <valorie> most much more experienced than me
[22:08] <progre55> or maybe I should just use gparted? )
[22:08] <valorie> personally, I would suggest doing your partitioning first
[22:08] <progre55> I just need to create an extended partition, and I'm not sure if I should waste 25 mins to download an alternate cd for that)
[22:09] <valorie> partitionmanager, or whatever you are comfortable with
[22:09] <progre55> gparted it is then )
[22:11] <snarkster> partitionmanager is awesome
[22:12] <shadeslayer> personally ive had alot of issues with partitionmanager
[22:12] <shadeslayer> gparted works the best for me
[22:12] <shadeslayer> hey valorie
[22:13] <progre55> oh, apparently gparted is not included in the kubuntu liveCD..
[22:13] <shadeslayer> progre55: lol... why would it be? :P
[22:14] <progre55> well, cause ubuntu has it =)
[22:14] <shadeslayer> the CD can only squeeze that much..
[22:14] <progre55> but the ubuntu livecd has gparted..
[22:14] <shadeslayer> the ubuntu cd also has a me menu, a software center and whatnot
[22:15] <progre55> =)
[22:15] <shadeslayer> progre55: gparted cannot squeeze into the kubuntu live CD, because it already is full
[22:15] <valorie> hi shadeslayer
[22:16] <progre55> I see
[22:23] <shadeslayer> is there a option to set TERM in konsole?
[22:23] <redwolf1994> right now at this time i am working on upgrading to kubuntu 10.10
[22:29] <progre55> so, another question.. what is the recommended amount of swap for a 400Gb linux partition with 4G ram and core i7 proc?
[22:31] <shadeslayer> progre55: id say a maximum of 1GB if your not short on space
[22:31] <progre55> shadeslayer: max? maybe you meant min?
[22:31] <shadeslayer> and if you are short on space, anything between 300 MB to 500 MB
[22:31] <progre55> shadeslayer: I was thinking 4G actually..
[22:31] <shadeslayer> progre55: nah... swap isnt used alot...
[22:32] <progre55> well, then let it be 2G =)
[22:32] <shadeslayer> like... right now my swap is at 0.02 GB
[22:32] <shadeslayer> which is about 20 MB .... and my RAM is idling at 1.3 GB
[22:32] <yofel> progre55: swap is an extension of your ram, so with 4GiB you won't need much (note that you'll need *at least* 4GiB of swap if you want to use hibernate)
[22:33] <progre55> yofel: I do use hibernate a lot actually..
[22:33] <progre55> and btw, my hd is 7200rpm, so I guess swap would also be faster a bit )
[22:33] <progre55> well, then 4G it is )
[22:33] <yofel> then your swap space should be a bit larger than your amount of RAM, as hibernate completely swaps out the memory space
[22:34] <Freddy2> hi
[22:34] <progre55> yofel: ah I see, thanks
[22:34] <Freddy2> i just installed maverick from fresh, and after a few tries i can't get the window buttons (close, maximize..) in the left side of the bar.. am i the only one?
[22:35] <Freddy2> inside the config window they are the way i want, but no change is done no matter how many times i try to apply changes
[22:35] <shadeslayer> Freddy2: did you tick > Custom Config
[22:36] <pabloz> hi all
[22:36] <Freddy2> ooooops, i've just seen that :O
[22:36] <Freddy2> my fault :) thx
[22:36] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: im getting project neon build fail spam :>
[22:37] <pabloz> anybody knows how to indent with spaces instead of the tabs default on kate  without changing the default?
[22:39] <progre55> should I have seperate partitions for home and root or can I just have a huge partition for root and have home in it?
[22:39] <Freddy2> you should separate them
[22:40] <Freddy2> also /boot, and optionally /tmp and /var
[22:40] <pabloz> IOW I want to continue indenting with tabs on 9 of my currently 10 open documents in kate, however I must indent *that* external file with spaces... any hint?
[22:40] <progre55> any reasons?
[22:40] <yofel> progre55: seperate /home is cleaner if you reinstall often, but as the installer can remove system files it's not that important
[22:41] <progre55> yofel: oh I see
[22:41] <progre55> then I'll keep them separate
[22:41] <yofel> as for /boot: I don't see much reason unless you have a reason for it, /var might make sense to prevent too much fragmentation on / as /var gets written to a lot, and I have /tmp on tmpfs
[22:41] <progre55> yofel: is 70G enough for root? or is it too much? )
[22:41] <Freddy2> besides you can use different filesystems.. i prefer XFS for /home and ReiserFs for / (Ext4 for /boot)
[22:41] <pabloz> answer to myself: "// kate: space-indent on; indent-width 4; mixedindent off; indent-mode cstyle;" then delete the line (or not) after (re)saving the document
[22:42] <yofel> progre55: usually you won't need more than 20-30, I have 50, but I have tons of stuff installed + debug and devel stuff
[22:42] <Freddy2> 30 at most, assuming you keep together /, /tmp and /var
[22:43] <progre55> okay, I'll have 40G then
[23:14] <Freddy2> one more question: can you add a "show desktop" plasmoid in a vertical panel? i do, but it seems to be unvisible (i can locate it when editing the panel, but after that nothing is there)
[23:19] <James147> Freddy2: I can here (kde 4.5.2)
[23:20] <Freddy2> i can't nor in lucid 4.5.1 neither in maverick 4.5.3, don't know why (they work in horizontal panels in maverick)
[23:23] <James147> Freddy2: hmm... not sure why they would do that, you could try creating a new user to see if its a config problem
[23:24] <Freddy2> in maverick it's been tested in a fresh install, but still.. here in lucid i came from 4.4.x
[23:26] <Freddy2> anyway, i can try
[23:29] <Freddy2> nope, not working :/