=== tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [02:21] hey i have ubuntu on my macbook, it only has up to 1280X800 resolution, its too low, driving me crazy, how do i make it higher? [02:24] ??? [02:29] ?? === asac_ is now known as asac [02:48] ? [03:46] hi, my resolution is 1280 - 800 how do i make it higher? [03:47] icek: This channel is for development, not troubleshooting. I suggest asking your question in #ubuntu, ubuntuforums.org, or askubuntu.com [03:48] It's also entirely possible that 1280x800 is the maximum resolution of your display; for example, I have a macbook with a 1280x800 display [03:48] i have a macbook [03:48] 1280 800 looks smaller in ubuntu than in osx [03:49] mess with DPI, may help, Mac's go with like 72DPI i _think_ we go with 90DPI by default IIRC [03:49] does anyone have a link to some really modern themes? [03:52] bcurtiswx how do i change it to 72? [03:53] System --> Preferences --> Appearance | Fonts Tab | Details Button [03:53] if anything, whether i'm completely off or not, play around with whatever DPI you like the best [03:54] DPI? dots per inch? [03:55] yup [03:55] where do i change DPI? [03:55] top [03:55] ? [03:55] The titlebar of the window you should be in should say "Font Rendering Details" [03:56] System-preferences-appearance preferences? [03:57] System-->Preferences--Appearance [03:57] click the "fonts" tab on the top [03:57] k [03:57] there [03:57] ton the bottom right above "close" you should see a button that says "Details" [03:58] hey thats pretty good [03:58] anyone know a really good osx theme? [03:58] :D [03:59] Radiance [04:00] Any questions past this point, you should probably go to #ubuntu , they are the genereal support channel. have to go to bed myself, another long day tomorrow [04:00] nite all [08:22] morning [08:45] morning [08:47] morning rodrigo_ [08:57] hmm, what's the magic in debian/rules to build a package whose upstream tarball doesn't have autogen.sh nor configure? [08:59] hey rodrigo_ [08:59] hi seb128 [08:59] what do they use? [08:59] it's got a configure.ac, just no configure/autogen.sh [09:00] odd, the whole point is to ship configure, well [09:00] yeah, seems to be broken [09:00] rodrigo_, you can generate the appropriate stuff but I'm not dh guru to spell how to do that properly [09:01] yeah, running autoconf/automake should do it, but no idea how to do it via dh [09:01] rodrigo_: dh 7? [09:01] rodrigo_, use dh-autoreconf [09:01] yes, dh 7 [09:01] * zyga needs to learn the dh build targets/sequence eventually [09:01] dh_autoreconf [09:02] rodrigo_, install dh-autoreconf and man dh-autoreconf [09:02] ok [09:02] dh --with autoreconf $@ [09:02] basically [09:02] it will run autoreconf [09:02] which should give you a configure [09:04] seb128, btwe, this is libsocialweb, got it from universe [09:05] ok [09:12] morning [09:12] lut huats [09:12] hello se [09:12] seb128, [09:14] salut huats [09:15] o/ didrocks [09:40] rodrigo_, I pushed a new g-s-d to natty and the vcs btw [09:40] you might want to rebase your work [09:41] seb128, oh, I'm still revieweing the patches and pushing them upstream [09:41] seb128, a new 2.32.x? [09:41] rodrigo_, yes, just packaging changes [09:41] ok [09:41] I updated the .install to install the datetime polkit service [09:42] we didn't do it last cycle because we didn't update gnome-panel [09:42] so we were still using the gnome-panel one [09:42] I cleaned the touchpad and ltmain patches while I was at it [09:42] it's a pretty trivial revision ;-) [09:43] rodrigo_, thanks for upstream those patches btw [09:43] well, it's much more work to having to rebase them :) [09:43] don't tell me ;-) [09:43] we slacked on some of those but some were in bugzilla sitting [09:43] the annoying one with be the appindicator one [09:45] yes, that part has changed a lot [09:45] I will rebase it on Monday though, when I do a new release [09:45] do you know what upstream plans to do for the keyboard indicator? [09:46] I think g-s will not have a notification area to display that icon? [09:46] yes, it has one [09:46] oh ok [09:46] I though they wanted to get ride of it [09:47] there is a GNOME wikipage about what to do about notification area icons [09:49] well, not sure what the exact plans are, but I see a notification area in gnome-shell [09:50] ok [09:53] do you know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo/+bug/271283 has been fixed in OpenOffice? [09:53] Launchpad bug 271283 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 4 other projects) "[ooo-build] OpenOffice.org subpixel font rendering broken with new cairo (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 55)" [Medium,Fix released] [09:53] there's a patch in the g-s-d package for working it around [09:54] seems not, from the novell bug [09:56] I guess not [09:56] I think there was a bug upstream about this patch [10:00] ah, it's already fixed upstream, yes [10:02] when,where has it been fixed? just curious [10:02] hmm, let me check the history [10:02] commit 6cf315249ab27d4396b0f5b5edb1e689a5cafc68 [10:02] Author: Chris Coleman [10:02] Date: Sat Oct 16 01:44:12 2010 +0100 [10:02] xsettings: Export Xft.lcdfilter for OO.o's benefit [10:02] [10:02] Export Xft.lcdfilter legacy setting for the benefit of OpenOffice.org [10:02] which doesn't follow the other fontconfig settings. [10:02] [10:02] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631924 [10:02] Gnome bug 631924 in xsettings "patch to fix subpixel font rendering with openoffice" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [10:03] ok great [10:04] ok, only 7 patches left! [10:12] seb128, hi [10:12] hey ricotz [10:12] rodrigo_, which ones? [10:12] seb128, is it considered to ship develement releases of gtk+2.0 2.24 parallel to gtk+3.0? [10:13] ricotz, yes, we will not drop gtk2 in one cycle [10:13] I think gtk2 is going to be around for some years [10:13] seb128, for example because of the changed location of the recent files list [10:14] seb128, yeah i know, i actually meant doing these update concurrent with eachother [10:14] yes as time permit, you are welcome to work on that if you want [10:14] we are just a small team with lot of work [10:14] and 2.23 is not the priority right now [10:14] seb128, 02_missing_libs.patch 71_fix_ldsm_notification_crash.patch [10:14] 05_disable_corner_tapping.patch 91_update_gvc_source.patch [10:14] 06_use_application_indicator.patch series [10:14] 16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch [10:15] we will get it in the next weeks [10:15] 02 is probably going upstream, and still looking at 71 and 91 [10:15] rodrigo_, ok, 02, 71 and 91 [10:15] seb128, ok [10:15] should be easy to upstream [10:15] yeah [10:15] rodrigo_, well 91 is basically updating the source copy from gnome-media [10:15] there is a bug upstream about that I think [10:15] let me check [10:15] seb128, yes, which I think is already done [10:16] there was an issue there and I pinged bastien and commented on the bug I think [10:16] but he didn't reply [10:16] he probably missed the ping [10:18] I'll check with him now [10:18] rodrigo_, I think that was https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612024 [10:18] Gnome bug 612024 in plugins "Memory leak in gnome-setting-daemon" [Major,Resolved: fixed] [10:19] rodrigo_, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=605694 has the patch we use [10:19] Gnome bug 605694 in gnome-volume-control "gnome-volume-control-applet never frees/finalizes PA channel maps." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [10:19] oh, it's marked as resolved [10:19] well it's part of the patch on comment #3 on the g-s-d bug as well [10:20] dunno why it didn't made in? [10:20] oh, it did some weeks ago [10:20] could be fixed in master then [10:20] did you check if that's the case? [10:20] dunno why he let is sleep for half a year before commiting [10:21] yes, seems it's ok in master [10:36] rodrigo_, the 71_fix_ldsm_notification_crash.patch one was from chrisccoulson [10:36] just for info [10:36] not sure if you want to credit patch authors in commits [10:37] (though you commited that one now) [10:43] grrrrrr, why are garages so useless! [10:44] seb128, ah, didn't know, so no chrisccoulson on the git commit :( [10:44] chrisccoulson, what did they do to you car? [10:45] rodrigo_, right, no worry, you couldn't guess since he didn't upstream the patch not added infos in it [10:46] seb128 - the engine management light keeps coming on on my car, and all they seem capable of doing is guessing what the fault is or just resetting it so the light comes back on again a few days later [10:46] i think i'll have to just figure it out myself ;) [10:47] what car brand? [10:47] seb128 - it's a ford [10:47] * seb128 notes to not buy one of those ;-) [10:47] lol [10:48] we did have a french car before, but it was too small ;) [10:48] (although, the engine management light never came on!) [10:49] chrisccoulson, go to another garage, usually they're very bad, so it's hard to find one with good workers [10:50] rodrigo_, yeah, that might be my next step [11:04] hey pedro_!! [11:05] hello rodrigo_! [11:05] pedro_, already recovered from last week? [11:06] rodrigo_, yeah almost, still feeling a bit of ubuflu though [11:06] oh :( [11:06] rodrigo_, how are you? was your trip back ok? [11:06] you shouldn't go out at nights with danilo :) [11:06] well, a bit long, as always, but ok [11:07] haha , yeah i blame the Serbians :-P [11:07] :) [11:08] pedro_: of course, that has always been that :) [11:08] hey pedro_! [11:09] * pedro_ hugs didrocks [11:09] hello didrocks! :-) [11:09] * didrocks hugs pedro_ back [11:10] hey pedro_ [11:10] pedro_, got the chilian flu? [11:10] I got it once, it's no fun indeed! [11:10] salut seb128! [11:11] i got the French or Serbian one [11:11] ;-) [11:11] * seb128 hugs pedro_ [11:11] * pedro_ hugs seb128 back [11:12] this time it was serbian, yes :) [11:12] but not sure why, but I never get the ubuflu [11:13] I'll shut up though, just in case for next time :) [12:26] u/c [12:29] Good morning [12:29] hey pitti [12:29] * pitti hugs seb128 [12:29] TGIF! :) [12:29] * seb128 hugs pitti [12:29] TGIF? [12:30] pitti, how is plumbers going? [12:30] seb128: well, after two weeks of confs you start wearing out [12:31] pitti, when do you fly back? [12:31] seb128: talks yesterday were moderately interesting; today I'm mostly looking forward to the hardware detection BoF [12:31] seb128: tomorrow evening [12:31] ok [12:32] pitti: surely UDS is more intense than a standard conf [12:32] yes, it is, and much more interactive [12:34] Guten Morgen pitti [12:38] nessita, hey [12:38] nessita, I didn't forget about your sponsoring requests don't worry, I will get to those in a bit [12:39] mterry, hey [12:40] seb128, hello! [12:40] seb128, hey, so what happened with gtk3? [12:40] mterry, sorry I forgot to come back to you yesterday and I was away [12:40] when you pinged [12:40] mterry, I got sidetracked in other post UDS catchup things [12:41] mterry, go for it and upload I would say [12:41] mterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/gtk/gtk3-fix-611011/+merge/40164 would be nice to merge in before upload maybe [12:41] mterry, and -v correctly to ship all changelogs entry for gtk3 on upload please [12:42] mterry, can you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/libcanberra/ubuntugtk3/+merge/39997 as well if you think it's ready? [12:42] seb128, ok. So I upload and it will go to NEW queue and all that? [12:42] we will follow with other uploads once pitti accepts gtk3 [12:42] mterry, yes, but pitti will review it when he has a free slot [12:42] I don't think it's any hurry to get it in, but first step is to upload [12:43] ;-) [12:43] seb128, I didn't follow about -v [12:44] mterry, bzr bd --source -- -v2.22.0 [12:44] or whatever was the previous changelog entry to reach the archive [12:44] ie just make sure all the work on 3.0 is in the .changes [12:44] not only the current changelog entry [12:45] so the natty-changes email list all the work and contributors [12:45] seb128, ah, neat. I don't do any cleanup on debian/changelog itself then? [12:45] hey mterry [12:45] rather than having a entry "upload to natty" [12:45] mterry, your call, it's like cleaning git history before merging, some people do some don't [12:45] I would just include all the debian and ppa entry in the debuild -S [12:45] k [12:46] * mterry high fives didrocks [12:46] * mterry sits down and has a chat with gtk3 [12:46] ;-) [12:46] mterry, chrisccoulson: you guys need to run for main upload rights [12:46] just telling [12:47] seb128, me too! :) [12:47] seb128, the requirements for office there are even vaguer than MOTU [12:47] kenvandine, hey, right, but you are on track so I didn't feel like you needed to be reminded ;-) [12:47] :-D [12:47] mterry, you just need enough people to vouch for you [12:47] mterry, which you will get for sure [12:47] * mterry starts handing out fivers [12:48] ;-) [12:48] * seb128 high fives mterry [12:48] heh [12:48] mterry, technically you have upload right on the desktop set already [12:48] mterry, since you have been added to ubuntu-desktop [12:48] oh yeah [12:48] curious [12:49] I should do more merges then [12:49] but still you can't help cleaning the sponsoring queue with that :p [12:49] there is lot out of desktop world [12:49] I was looking at the queue the other day. It's only like 75 deep? Doesn't seem so bad [12:49] it was 110 yesterday [12:49] and 110 over what it should be apparently ;-) [12:50] I just thought from the way everyone talked about it, it was at like a 1000 [12:50] we would be in trouble if that was the case ;-) [12:52] mterry, the issue is not really the number but rather the delay [12:52] we often have things sitting for weeks or months [12:52] which is enough to drive contributors away [12:52] and we would prefer to get contributors staying and helping that running away because we ignored them ;-) [13:04] seb128, so only uncommitted changes we want for this gtk3 push is --enable-introspection=no for non-shared build and the merge of printing-to-Documents, right? [13:04] mterry, yes sir [13:04] ;-) [13:05] pitti, "(perl removal) Drop libgnome-perl recommends from gdebi/synaptics/apturl/ubuntu-desktop:" [13:06] pitti, did somebody agreed to use the ncurse debconf ui or what?N [13:06] -N [13:06] seb128: didn't we? [13:06] I don't think we did [13:06] seb128: anyway, I'd rather do that through seeding [13:06] pitti, but https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/415038 [13:06] Launchpad bug 415038 in debconf (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "port GNOME frontend to GtkAssistant (affects: 1) (heat: 13)" [Unknown,New] [13:07] pitti, which has a patch waiting for cjwatson to review [13:07] pitti, that will drop the libgnome2-perl use [13:07] it will still use libgtk2-perl though [13:07] not sure if you aimed to drop libgnome2-perl only or the whole gtk-perl stack [13:08] seb128, and you want the libcanberra pushed too? (not clear if merged just meant to bzr or ubuntu + PPA) [13:08] well, *shrug*, it's an awful amount of packages for a tiny feature, but if people think it's more important than evo contacts sync, then let's drop the latter instead [13:08] seb128: my original plan was the whole perl stack [13:08] mterry, merge to bzr and ppa upload for now I would say [13:08] pitti, ok, go for it then [13:09] pitti, I was unsure if we agreed on the ncurse backend use [13:09] but I guess a normal install shouldn't see any debconf anyway [13:09] pitti, I still wanted to point the debconf bug to clean libgnome2-perl in case that's useful to you [13:09] seb128: with the recommends dropped, we can seed it back, and it's much easier to toggle on/off [13:09] right [13:09] seb128: right, it still will be if we want to bring it back [13:09] wfm [13:16] pitti, spec approved [13:17] thanks [13:17] np [13:26] seb128, one last question, hopefully. I was planning to create a new ~ubuntu-desktop/libcanberra/ubuntugtk3 branch, but would you prefer to keep it in-trunk based on perception of imminent release? [13:29] hey cyphermox, I filed a bunch of bugs for multimonitor stuff on unity [13:29] if you want to confirm them or whatever [13:29] cool [13:33] hey popey ucasts.tv looks nice! Whats to become of screencasts.ubuntu.com? And more importantly, what that little thing in the corner that shows the mouse buttons and option keys? [13:35] * rodrigo_ -> lunch [13:51] komputes: someone else has taken over screencasts.ubuntu.com :) [13:51] komputes: and it's called key-mon [13:51] http://code.google.com/p/key-mon/ [13:57] mterry, sorry I was out for a bit [13:57] mterry, yeah, trunk is fine, it will go in when gtk3 is accepted [14:07] popey: awesome. should be in a PPA. perhaps a Screencast Team PPA. [14:07] :) [14:10] didrocks: hi, I just found out you pushed a fix for bug 659244. But I somehow can't find the package you mention in -proposed, do you have any idea what's going on there? [14:10] Launchpad bug 659244 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Tracks synced to iphone won't play (affects: 22) (dups: 3) (heat: 138)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659244 [14:10] thekorn, there is a proposed freeze until next week [14:10] thekorn: it's not approved yet you will get a message once approved and built [14:10] thekorn, cf email from a week ago on u-d, freeze for linaro [14:11] okidoki, looks like I missed it [14:11] thekorn, the uploads also need somebody from ubuntu-sru to review and approved them [14:11] (waow, it's the 3rd time today I have to explain that :)) [14:11] so it usually takes some day [14:11] thanks [14:11] especially during uds time when nobody is online [14:13] popey: whats a good tool to cut and edit ogg files without having to re-encode [14:13] komputes: pitivi? [14:14] oh, without encoding, pass [14:14] I try not to edit :) [14:14] popey: because every time i cut, re-encode with pitivi it looks very bad [14:14] pixels and blur [14:14] komputes: the defaults in pitivi are insane [14:14] nobody would encode and watch a video using the defaults [14:14] I should file a bug about it, it makes pitivi look pretty awful [14:15] popey: are you serious? you never edit your screencasts, the recording / voice track etc. [14:15] the two that I just uploaded to ucasts.tv had zero editing [14:15] and it shows in places :) [14:16] that doesn't mean they worked first time! I recorded about 5 times and messed something up or fluffed what I said so I just started again. [14:16] I don't know if I could make screencasts that make people wait. I want the ability to make parts of the screencast fast forward, pitivi does not have this. [14:16] with a 5 minute video it's faster to start again than it is to edit [14:16] the screencast app has a pause button :) [14:16] popey: I wish avidemux worked with ogg [14:16] I wish I had a pony :) [14:16] me too! [14:17] I suspect owning a pony is not the double-rainbow it's made out to be [14:18] err... the screencast app has a pause **menu** [14:18] CTRL+ALT+P [14:18] nice [14:18] that'll help [14:18] and yes, the menu is insane also [14:19] the one example where having an indicator menu makes very little sense [14:20] mterry: i pitty da fool who don't like pony maintenance [14:20] popey: omg, i had such trouble with the indicator menu recently [14:21] komputes, at the least at this stage in our lives (post-7th-grade), we should be wishing for horses or ponies with steel-reinforced backs [14:21] popey: I added all the ubuntu image torrents to transmission and the program was notifying 10 seconds me for every torrent that was added. [14:21] komputes, or hell, just go straight for the jetpack [14:21] mterry: you lack vision, ponies and only ponies I say [14:22] mterry: ok, pony on a hovercraft [14:23] * mterry in a jetpack zooms by komputes pulling his hoverboard pony out of water (fool, everyone knows hoverboards don't work on water), doing loop-de-loops into the sunset [14:23] popey: Killed transmission, but it kept goin! ahh, child processes! it would have taken an hour to stop being notified if I didn't kill the process. [14:24] It is very clearly friday. [14:25] * komputes thinks physics fail [14:26] popey, let us never relegate hoverboard ponies just to Friday [14:27] Any chance of getting notification preferences or at least a quick way to turn them off when they get anoying or when you're doing a presentation at a conference and the projector is up and your enraged ex-girlfriend feels like being a spaz ;-) [14:51] seb128, are we creating a ~ubuntu-desktop branch for gsettings-desktop-schemas? [14:52] yes [14:52] mterry, ^ [14:52] can you review that for rodrigo_ and sponsor if ready? [14:52] ok, I ask because I just saw my libcanberra branch merged, thanks mterry btw :) [14:52] np! [14:53] seb128, sure. rodrigo_, is there a merge proposal for your branch? link me to it or your branch [14:53] no merge proposal, since there is no ~ubuntu-desktop branch, it's a new package [14:53] but I have a branhc [14:53] let me find the url [14:54] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/+junk/gsettings-desktop-schemas [15:03] btw, for a package that is in universe, do we want to keep the history of that package when moving it to main? [15:03] (librest and libsocialweb) [15:04] rodrigo_: do you have a moment? [15:04] kklimonda_, if you have a branch for me, yes :-) [15:04] rodrigo_, yeah [15:04] mterry, ok [15:04] kklimonda_, I do, so what's up? [15:05] I do actually, can I send you a pm? [15:06] kklimonda_, yes [15:11] mterry, when you get things uploaded to NEW please let pitti know [15:12] seb128, yup. Fixed a gail-doc oddity, not figuring out the gtk-doc one [15:12] /not/now/ [15:12] ok [15:12] btw https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-gnome3 [15:12] (bad links and conflicting files with 2.0) [15:12] if you think of things that will need a gtk3 please add them [15:12] either on the alpha1 workitem list [15:13] if that's for the stack [15:13] or add bug reports about those [15:20] mterry, can I keep dumping tasks on you? ;-) [15:21] rodrigo_, gsettings-desktop-schemas looked good to me. Pushed to lp:~ubuntu-desktop/+junk/gsettings-desktop-schemas for now. Seemed odd to have a -dev package without a library, but makes sense. I did fix the debian/copyright to not point to specific tarball, but rather general ftp area though [15:21] seb128, sure, if you have another [15:21] mterry, you can upload to natty ^ [15:21] mterry, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gnome3-cleaning [15:21] mterry, right, it has a .h file [15:21] mterry, but no lib [15:21] mterry, the usb-create and nautilus-share bugs [15:22] they should be pretty trivial to fix [15:22] if you want to tackle them [15:22] usb-creator [15:22] is this regarding libgnome? [15:22] they both have like a 1 function call from libgnome [15:22] hyperair, yes [15:22] right [15:23] well, if anyone gets around to it, please ping me with a patch [15:23] you read the bug emails? [15:23] seb128, sure I can look at them [15:23]