| ScottK | RAOF: If one comes back to the computer on a not infrequent basis and finds the monitor just says "out of range", what's the best way to troubleshoot it? | 03:06 |
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| RAOF | Hm. | 03:06 |
| ScottK | RAOF: Also, any word on the KDE logout fix? Daughter #2's X crashes seem to be increasing in frequency. | 03:07 |
| RAOF | Does simply moving the mouse make things work again? | 03:07 |
| ScottK | Nope. | 03:07 |
| ScottK | (10.04 if it matters) | 03:08 |
| RAOF | No word yet on the KDE logout fix; I had three days off after UDS (which was such a good idea I'll do it again next UDS!) | 03:08 |
| ScottK | Heh. OK. | 03:09 |
| RAOF | As for the other problem - can you SSH in? Is the system otherwise responsive? | 03:10 |
| RAOF | I'd guess that something DPMS-based is going to be the problem, so just turning off display power management should result in the problem not being triggered (also good to check). | 03:11 |
| ScottK | I wasn't around when it happened to try. | 03:11 |
| ScottK | OK, so disable the thing that powers off the monitor? | 03:11 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 03:12 |
| ScottK | Will try that. Thanks. | 03:12 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: re: the x talk; in line with the "unity on wayland" announcement then ;) | 05:34 |
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| speakman | Anyone know if there's a Xorg release with this patch available: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-October/014150.html | 10:03 |
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| jcristau | speakman: there isn't. | 11:31 |
| speakman | I've "apt-get source xorg-server" and patched the source - but how do I rebuild it? | 11:52 |
| speakman | jcristau: any idea? | 11:53 |
| jcristau | dpkg-buildpackage | 11:53 |
| speakman | I've tried, but there's no .deb file in .. when it's done. | 11:54 |
| speakman | now running debuild -uc -us | 11:54 |
| speakman | Should I make a new "version" or something? or just patch and rebuild? | 11:54 |
| tjaalton | depends how you plan to use it | 11:56 |
| speakman | just fixing the segfaulting with xinerama | 11:56 |
| speakman | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/650539 | 11:56 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 650539 in xorg (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "Launching QT apps under Xinerama crashes Xorg : affects SpeedCrunch, KeePassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, Skype, Google Earth, VLC, Konqueror, VirtualBox, Opera ... (affects: 67) (dups: 9) (heat: 408)" [High,Triaged] | 11:56 |
| tjaalton | for a single computer? then it doesn't matter | 11:56 |
| speakman | yes single computer | 11:56 |
| tjaalton | though there might be other updates coming to the package | 11:57 |
| speakman | but really; why isn't this fixed in the standard repo? I guess there's many folk using xinerama | 11:57 |
| tjaalton | it was fixed ~two weeks ago, and the devs have been travelling since | 11:59 |
| jcristau | not that many | 11:59 |
| speakman | tjaalton: oki | 11:59 |
| speakman | wow, now it has generated ~ 10 .deb files. | 11:59 |
| speakman | which package holds Xinerama? | 12:00 |
| speakman | xserver-xorg-core? | 12:01 |
| speakman | or xserver-common? | 12:01 |
| tjaalton | it's the server providing it, so -core | 12:06 |
| speakman | ok, thanks | 12:06 |
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| speakman | GREAT! Now everything works! | 12:08 |
| speakman | Now Xinerama works perfectly. But it keep telling me "Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".". Why? | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | which driver? | 13:42 |
| tjaalton | hmm wonder if running xinerama disables randr | 13:43 |
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| hyperair | i think it does. | 13:56 |
| jcristau | yep | 13:57 |
| tjaalton | right | 14:00 |
| tjaalton | speakman: ^ | 14:00 |
| speakman | ok | 14:10 |
| speakman | Wasn't RandR supposed to deprecate Xinerama? | 14:10 |
| jcristau | no | 14:10 |
| speakman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama#Deprecation_of_XINERAMA | 14:12 |
| speakman | How do I combine them? | 14:12 |
| jcristau | combine what? | 14:14 |
| speakman | RandR + Xinerama? | 14:17 |
| jcristau | you don't | 14:18 |
| speakman | why? why does one thing have to exclude the other? | 14:18 |
| speakman | and why does things like gedit complain about missing RandR extension? | 14:19 |
| jcristau | one thing has to exclude the other because you didn't write the code to make them work together | 14:20 |
| jcristau | and gedit complains because gtk is buggy | 14:21 |
| speakman | but RandR isn't actually required? | 14:23 |
| jcristau | no | 14:31 |
| speakman | oki. wondering why gtk is moining about it... | 14:32 |
| jcristau | as i said.. | 14:33 |
| LLStarks | wayland. from pet project to ubuntu pioneering | 18:00 |
| LLStarks | just wow. | 18:00 |
| njin | Hello to all x-lovers bug 636094, can someone comment this, to set importance, Xalloc: requesting unpleasantly large amount of - memory: 0 bytes. handling mouse | 21:18 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 636094 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Random system freeze [Xalloc: requesting unpleasantly large amount of memory: 0 bytes.] (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636094 | 21:18 |
| njin | * to set importance to hoght | 21:19 |
| njin | *hight | 21:19 |
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| tjaalton | njin: uh, no | 21:38 |
| njin | tjaalton. why ' | 21:38 |
| tjaalton | it's a generic case of a hung GPU | 21:38 |
| njin | *? | 21:38 |
| tjaalton | nothing to do with the evdev driver | 21:38 |
| tjaalton | and various people claiming they have the same bug, just that the original submitter said he fixed his system | 21:39 |
| tjaalton | so.. I'd rather close it as invalid or some such | 21:39 |
| njin | tjaalton: thanks | 21:41 |
| bryceh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | finally sponsored the upload for bug 553415.. | 22:51 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 553415 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "mouse trapped in box for Open Motif (affects: 30) (dups: 4) (heat: 138)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553415 | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | oh hey bryceh | 22:51 |
| bryceh | heya tjaalton | 22:57 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: nitpick; substitute -ati etc with ati/nouveau/intel, since "-" points to the X driver package, which is just for X | 22:57 |
| tjaalton | or even use vendor names | 22:58 |
| bryceh | good point | 22:58 |
| tjaalton | and "the option of just running X" -> "...X clients inside Wayland", or something | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | hmm, it's a wiki, I could do that myself | 23:06 |
| tjaalton | :) | 23:06 |
| bryceh | :-) | 23:06 |
| bryceh | the wiki hamsters are busily saving my changes right now | 23:06 |
| tjaalton | ah :) | 23:07 |
| bryceh | saved, ok go | 23:07 |
| tjaalton | done | 23:09 |
| tjaalton | interesting time on the wiki server | 23:10 |
| tjaalton | it's ~20min behind | 23:11 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, wouldn't you need to run the X clients inside an X server running on top of wayland? | 23:13 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: yes | 23:13 |
| tjaalton | a rootless server, so the apps "look" native | 23:14 |
| tjaalton | s/inside Wayland/on top of the server/ ? | 23:15 |
| bryceh | yeah | 23:17 |
| tjaalton | there | 23:19 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, do you know if debian has packaged libxkbcommon yet? | 23:31 |
| tjaalton | bryceh: doesn't look like it | 23:32 |
| tjaalton | at least git.d.o doesn't have it | 23:33 |
| bryceh | ok | 23:33 |
| tjaalton | but I guess it's a fairly standard library packaging wise | 23:35 |
| bryceh | looks like it | 23:40 |
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