[00:02] <DarkwingDuck> Do we know who to talk to about changing logos for the Wiki theme?
[01:37] <valorie> DarkwingDuck: Canonical IS folks people, I'm guessing
[01:38] <valorie> file a RT, whatever that is
[01:38] <valorie> and then poke them until they do it
[01:57] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: took me a sec to remember what u were talking about
[01:57] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[01:58] <DarkwingDuck> i gotta sit down and setup docs wikis tonight
[02:01] <valorie> this chan has been nearly silent
[02:01] <valorie> everyone still recovering, I guess
[02:01] <valorie> my mailbox is still a disaster zone
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> mines good only because my laptop is my only comp and its starting to die.... :( and i have no $$ to replace. 
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> oh well
[02:06] <valorie> that sucks
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> yeah... ill figure something out
[02:45] <Daskreech> hi rdieter 
[06:17] <ulysses> Riddell: kdesvn upstream accepted our patch: http://kdesvn.alwins-world.de/changeset/2117
[13:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why should libutempter-dev be in main in lucid?
[15:48] <nixternal> there isn't a printer app for kde that works is there? i hate having to install system-config-printer-gnome just to use network printers
[15:48] <Riddell> what's wrong with system-config-printer-kde?
[15:49] <nixternal> it has never worked in detecting a printer shared on a windows host
[15:49] <nixternal> the gnome one does
[15:53] <ScottK> The KDE one works great on printers that are actually directly on the network.
[15:53] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you see my ping about promoting  libweather-ion5?
[15:54] <nixternal> that i can agree with, but it doesn't work worth a darn with printers shared on a windows pc
[15:55] <ScottK> Sounds like something that would be useful for someone with a printer shared on a windows PC to troubleshoot.
[15:55] <nixternal> i am troubleshooting, or actually right now i guess you can call it troubleshitting. i am getting absolutely nowhere
[15:57] <Riddell> ScottK: done
[15:57] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[15:58] <Riddell> nixternal: system-config-printer-kde is incomplete so it doesn't surprise me that there's missing functionality
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nvm ... slangsleek explained why :P
[16:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googletvdevseed/ << freebies
[16:14] <nixternal> Riddell: that could explain it then :)  might be something fun for me to do then
[16:28] <nixternal> yowsers, there is quite the difference between system-config-printer-gnome and -kde
[16:29] <nixternal> -kde doesn't have any of the smb code
[16:30] <Riddell> that'll be the issue then
[16:44] <ulysses> hy Riddell 
[16:46] <Riddell> hi ulysses 
[16:47] <ulysses> I have time to package UPnP MediaServer KIOslaven now
[16:52] <Riddell> ulysses: groovy, do you know where to begin?
[16:52] <ulysses> Riddell: no
[16:54] <Riddell> ulysses: first step is to find the source tar, download it, compile it and see that it works
[16:55] <Riddell> of course without upnp you might not get it to do very much but you can at least make sure it shows an empty folder in dolphin
[16:55] <Riddell> do you know how to do that?
[16:56] <ulysses> I read the announcement on kde-announce-apps@, it contains the dependencies
[16:56] <Riddell> good start
[16:57] <Riddell> do we have all the dependencies in the archive?
[16:58] <ulysses> Cagibi (recommended) is in Maverick/Natty, HUPnP isn't
[16:58] <Riddell> hmm, that makes it more tricky
[16:58] <Riddell> does huphp have a web page?
[16:59] <Riddell> google doesn't know it
[16:59] <ulysses> this is it: http://www.herqq.org/
[17:01] <Riddell> so starting point it to download and compile that
[17:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how much did it cost to compile 4.5.3 on EC2 ?
[17:03] <shadeslayer> all of it
[17:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: $20  but they was using the expensive 2CPU computers and leaving them on overnight
[17:05] <shadeslayer> oh..hmm
[17:05] <Riddell> so probably less than half that if you use the cheap 1CPU computers (bit more hassle as you need to set each one up, but that can be scripted)
[17:06] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and do you have a script for building the i10n packages?
[17:06] <Riddell> yes, see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[17:06] <Riddell> definately worth doing on EC2 that one, the download takes ages otherwise
[17:07] <shadeslayer> kewl
[17:23] <ulysses> good, hupnn doesn't use configure/make/make install
[17:24] <JontheEchidna> any good software must use cmake/make/make install :P
[17:24] <ulysses> it uses Qt Creator *.pro file
[17:26] <Riddell> ulysses: then it'll be qmake; make; make install
[17:26] <ulysses> Riddell: I installed Qt Creator already; it compiled the source without error
[17:27] <ulysses> and generated makefiles
[17:28] <Riddell> ulysses: so you have huphp compiled and installed ?
[17:29] <ulysses> Riddell: yes
[17:31] <Riddell> ulysses: groovy
[17:31] <Riddell> ulysses: so next is to download and compile UPnP MediaServer KIOslave
[17:41] <ulysses> HUPnP wasn't installed correctly, UPnP MediaServer KIOslave can't found it
[17:42] <Riddell> tricksy
[17:42] <Riddell> ulysses: where did HUPhP install to?
[17:42] <Riddell> what is UPnP MediaServer KIOslave looking for?
[17:43] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1193657 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (5 files in 5 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[17:43] <CIA-39> Separate the muon translation template into one template per application.
[17:43] <CIA-39> (libmuon, muon, muon-updater, muon-installer and muon-notifier) Having one
[17:53] <ulysses> Riddell: for the HUPnP's CMakeFile: http://pastebin.com/GeSRh6pg
[17:55] <Riddell> ulysses: can you pastebin the output of running  "sudo make install" in the HUPnP source?
[17:56] <ulysses> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/QtGtmgeM
[17:59] <Riddell> ulysses: that's installing into /home/ulysses/Dev...
[17:59] <Riddell> so UPnP MediaServer KIOslave won't find it there
[17:59] <ulysses> yes, it won't
[18:01] <Riddell> ulysses: try this..
[18:01] <Riddell> sudo make install INSTALL_ROOT=/usr
[18:01] <ulysses> Riddell: If I change the install dir of HUPnP, it has to be work
[18:02] <ulysses> INSTALL_DIR   = $(COPY_DIR)
[18:02] <ulysses> where COPY_DIR is /usr
[18:07] <Riddell> ulysses: where is that?
[18:08] <ulysses> HUPnP's modified Makefile: http://pastebin.com/Bw8zPMzX
[18:09] <Riddell> give it a try
[18:13] <DarkwingDuck> Yay! I fixed my e key
[18:16] <ulysses> Nothing…
[18:16] <Riddell> ulysses: no change?
[18:17] <ulysses> Riddell: nothing, with the modification or with ROOT=/usr
[18:18] <Riddell> qmake is annoying
[18:18] <ScottK> Riddell: kdesdk 4.5.3 got missed uploading to Natty.  You had the changes in bzr, so I just uploaded it using the tarball from the PPA.
[18:19] <Riddell> thanks ScottK 
[18:19] <ScottK> No problem.
[18:24] <Riddell> ulysses: well I'm afraid I'm out of ideas, I think you'll need to e-mail the huphp and uphp-kioslave authors to ask how to compile and install huphp into /usr
[18:24] <Riddell> this is fairly typical of the task of a packager
[18:34] <ulysses> Riddell: I sent e-mails
[18:47] <Riddell> thanks ulysses