[00:16] <cuznt> error msg "could not update ICEauthority /home/faydriss/.~ICEauthority" my kde will not start. am on in a fluxbox session
[00:22] <e_t_> cuznt: have you checked to see if that file exists? (ls -a /home/faydriss)
[00:29] <cuznt> yes it in fact is there
[00:30] <Freddy2> ls -al
[00:30] <Freddy2> check for permissions and ownership
[00:31] <cuznt> rw root
[00:31] <cuznt> -rw-------  1 root     root         519 2010-11-05 10:49 .ICEauthority
[00:31] <Freddy2> not good
[00:33] <Freddy2> you should go to root-store and buy the file xD
[00:35] <e_t_> sudo chown username:usergroup .~ICEauthority
[00:35] <Freddy2> there is no such ~ in the filename according to the paste
[00:36] <Freddy2> and assuming faydriss as user -> sudo chown faydriss:faydriss .ICEauthority
[00:42] <cuznt> and that should fix it?
[00:42] <Freddy2> try
[00:42]  * cuznt shall return(s)!
[00:44] <cuznt> tata!
[00:44] <cuznt> all fixed(s) ;) danks
[00:44] <Freddy2> xD
[00:44] <cuznt> now why would it change ownership
[00:44]  * cuznt has not been messin with stuff like that
[00:45] <Freddy2> that is a good question for e_t_, go ahead :D
[00:45] <cuznt> heh
[00:46] <e_t_> Don't look at me. My first thought was filesystem error recovery, but I really have no idea.
[00:46] <Freddy2> (same here)
[00:47] <e_t_> Then I guess if we're crazy, we're crazy together.
[00:47] <Freddy2> indeed
[00:50] <Dragnslcr> Did you use sudo to run a KDE program recently?
[00:51] <cuznt> me? yes
[00:51] <cuznt> i have been sudo shutdown -h now
[00:51] <cuznt> sudo reboot
[00:51] <cuznt> and updating konsole
[00:51] <Dragnslcr> No, a GUI program
[00:52] <cuznt> no
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> Like kpackagekit or systemsettings
[00:52] <cuznt> i run packet tracer a ciscobased thing using wine but no
[00:52] <cuznt> i update and try to install console
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> I vaguely remember that root taking ownership of .ICEauthority is a symptom of using sudo instead of kdesudo
[00:53] <cuznt> basic settings too....
[00:53] <cuznt> should i use kdesudo by default?
[00:53] <e_t_> cuznt: On a side note, you can download a native Linux packettracer from Cisco.
[00:53] <Dragnslcr> For GUI programs, yes, you should use kdesudo
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> For regular shell stuff like shutdown, no
[00:54] <cuznt> can i get console to show old session commands?
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> history
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> I assume that's what you mean?
[00:55] <cuznt> right on thank you too. fluxbox was the only one to work...
[00:55] <cuznt> sudo dccopserver
[00:56] <Freddy2> time to sleep
[00:56] <cuznt> thats the only one i know of that i started and it was today outside trying to get wifi axess
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> Doesn't look like a KDE app
[01:21] <basy> hi, when konsole starts application window resizes to preview size but it is always on 0,0 posistion, how to set default position or how to restore previous position?
[01:44] <progre55> hi guys. is it possible to install restricted drivers under a livecd by chrooting into the system?
[01:49] <valorie> maybe
[01:49] <valorie> did you try?
[01:50] <valorie> I've heard of people doing that, but don't know if it was liveCD or alt. install
[02:05] <progre55> valorie: oh sorry, was afk
[02:05] <progre55> valorie: I've tried apt-get upgrading.. and let me restart now, hope it will fix my wireless issues..
[02:05] <valorie> very good
[02:06] <progre55> but if not, then how do you install restricted drivers from a terminal?
[02:06] <progre55> is it even possible?
[02:06] <valorie> hopefully someone else knows, because i do not
[02:06] <progre55> =) well, thanks anyways
[02:07] <maco> jockey
[02:07] <maco> sudo jockey-text -a
[02:08] <progre55> maco: what's jockey?
[02:08] <maco> the real name of the restricted driver manager
[02:09] <progre55> oh, cool, thanks
[02:16] <progre55> maco: I have logged in on ubuntu livecd, and chrooted to my kubuntu partition, and trying "sudo jockey-test -a" but it says "cannot connect to d-bus". any suggestions, please?
[02:16] <maco> text, not test
[02:16] <progre55> it cannot find /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[02:16] <progre55> oh well yeah, text =)
[02:16] <progre55> just a typo here
[02:16] <maco> might have to bind mount /var/run
[02:16] <maco> just like /proc and /dev
[02:16] <maco> (you did those too right?)
[02:17] <progre55> ah, I've binded /var
[02:17] <progre55> let me try /var/run
[02:17] <maco> oh if you did /var then that should be enough
[02:17] <progre55> but doesnt work.
[02:18] <progre55> oh, binding /var/run/dbus worked =)
[02:18] <maco> interesting...
[02:18] <progre55> now it's searching for available drivers..
[02:21] <progre55> oh, now I got a crash, saying "sorry, the package "bcmwl-kernel-source .... " failed to install or upgrade.
[02:21] <progre55> damn
[02:23] <smw> anyone know how to put X in "safe mode" when using the install disk?
[02:24] <smw> I just want it to use the vesa driver on the lowest resolution or something
[02:42] <name_> ывап
[04:42] <xujc> test
[04:42] <xujc> so many people here!
[04:43] <andres_> do you know a channel for java
[04:43] <andres_> ?
[04:45] <xujc> i don't konw. btw i'm not sure whether you are asking me,  :)
[04:48] <andres_> i want a channel like this but about the languaje java
[07:14] <subhashish> help! i cant get my menubars on any application window. i use kubuntu 10.10
[07:26] <valorie> subhashish: sec, I think you hit a command key combo to disappear them
[07:27] <subhashish> oops ididnt know then! my bad
[07:28] <valorie> try control + M
[07:28] <valorie> did that work?
[07:28] <subhashish> no
[07:28] <valorie> hmmm, works for me
[07:28] <valorie> in 10.10
[07:29] <valorie> there is no plus key in there, by the way
[07:29] <valorie> just control and m
[07:29] <subhashish> i know what u mean but it didnt work
[07:30] <valorie> you often get a context menu with right-click also
[07:31] <valorie> anything helpful there?
[07:36] <valorie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212648 might help also, depending on exactly what you mean
[07:36] <valorie> subhashish: ^
[07:37] <ale_> hey guys. i have kubuntu 10.04. my problem is i have internet running through a thomson st330 modem. does anyone know how i can install that in ubuntu to make my internet work?
[07:37] <subhashish> lemme see
[07:42] <valorie> ale_: is network manager not detecting your modem
[07:42] <valorie> ?
[07:42] <valorie> basically, I would assume (not having tried it) that your "wired" connection should Just Work
[07:43] <valorie> unless you also need a dialer
[08:14] <Bacta> Hi all
[10:53] <polis> hi
[10:53] <polis> to all
[10:54] <polis> How do I install the ati driver in recovery mode
[10:57] <polis> I'm only loads the kubuntu startup sounds but it remains a black screen
[11:13] <polis> How do I install the ati driver in recovery mode
[11:13] <polis> I'm only loads the kubuntu startup sounds but it remains a black screen
[11:15] <Schooli> Guys i have problem with linux the internet don't work from there Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client v3.1.3 Copyright 2004-2009 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/etho/00:1b:b9:ea:2e:8b Sending on LPF/etho/00:1b:b9:ea:2e:8b Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on etho to 225.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 DHCPDISCOVER on etho to 255.255
[11:17] <Schooli> No DHCPOFFERS reveived No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[12:15] <ct529> hi guys, I am trying to build a complete theme for kde, that is: bootstrap (after grub), login, ksplsh, plasma and windows decoration .... now I am finding it very, very difficult
[12:15] <ct529> particularly the ksplash theming .... any help you can give me? I have found documentation on plasma and windows (but auroraedesign does not really work well yet) and a bit on login, but themeing is not brilliant either .... I can theme the login page, but then ksplah reverst to ethais ....
[12:15] <ct529> anyone who can help me?
[12:15] <FloodBotK1> ct529: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[13:03] <diablodf> (K) Ubuntu're very slow in its new version! I went back to version 10.04're that much better.
[13:39] <cjae> why no desktop effects? capable gpu afaik and proprietary ati driver
[13:42] <BluesKaj> cjae, which ati card ?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> sometimes the proprietary drivers aren't so great...depends
[13:46] <cjae> BluesKaj: sudo lshw | grep _____?
[13:47] <James147> cjae: lspci | grep VGA
[13:48] <cjae> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]
[13:48] <BluesKaj> cjae,  yup, as James147 posted lspci | grep VGA
[13:49] <cjae> I think I had this happen before when I upgraded from a beta before and since the beta desktop affects where broken they stayed disabled through the update progress
[13:50] <cjae> does this sound possible?
[13:50] <powerinside> Can anybody tell me how I can disable the password prompt each time I try to access my windows drives (partition) in kubuntu? (dolphin)
[13:50] <James147> cjae: possible... but if thats the case then I would think a new user would ahve them enabled... could you test on a new user?
[13:51] <James147> powerinside: one way is to mount it at boot so that dolphin dosnt need to... but I dont know how to let dolphin mount them without a passowrd :s
[13:51] <cjae> James147: does the new user have to belong to any certain groups
[13:52] <yotux> I was using ubuntu and purchased fluendo codecs will they work in in kubuntu?
[13:52] <James147> powerinside: the easiest way to add a windows partition to mount at boot is to install and use "ntfs-config"
[13:52] <James147> cjae: wouldnt have said so
[13:52] <powerinside> James147: thanks, is it a GUI tool?
[13:53] <James147> powerinside: (ntfs-config is a gui tool)
[13:53] <yotux> powerinside : yes
[13:53] <BluesKaj> yotux, I'm not familiar with fluendo , but it should work
[13:54] <ajibarra> hi all, i have a clean installation of kubuntu maverick and after some upgrades i cant see bootup animation, instead of it i see "Kubuntu 10.10" and some other things. Anyone has the same problem?
[13:54] <James147> yotux: ^^ although I ma not entirly sure why you would need them :)
[13:55] <yotux> BlueKaj:  I purchased it threw the ubuntu store  link--http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=244
[13:55] <powerinside> James147: I just checked it up.. it seems to be that ntfs-config is a write support enabling tool for ntfs partitions.. But I can already access my ntfs partitions.. what I wanted is to remove that password nagging during each boot
[13:55] <BluesKaj> yotux, have you seen this ? http://www.fluendo.com/press/fluendo-announces-free-mp3-audio-decoding-gnulinux-and-unix/
[13:56] <James147> powerinside: it can also add an entry to /etc/fstab... which will mount the drive at boot... this will stop dolphon from asking for a apssworfd
[13:56] <yotux> Blueskaj: I live in the US and not sure what the exact laws are about media codecs and opensource
[13:56] <cjae> James147: pardon?
[13:57] <yotux> cjae:  think ntfs-config requires admin rights not sure
[13:58] <BluesKaj> yotux, have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and medibuntu repository ?
[13:58] <James147> yotux: ^^ but that is what dolphin is asking for to mount the drive anyway...
[13:59] <cjae> yotux: what?
[13:59] <James147> cjae: dose it work with the new user? you should have to add it to any spical groupds
[13:59] <cjae> James147: sorry waiting for an answer
[13:59] <cjae> was*
[13:59] <yotux> BluesKaj:  no I don't have mediabuntu will verify repo list
[14:00] <cjae> is user add good in kde or command line preferred
[14:00] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | yotux
[14:00] <James147> cjae: answer to what? O_o
[14:01] <James147> cjae: shouldnt matter
[14:01] <yotux> BluesKaj:  I don't have that one installed
[14:01] <James147> cjae: you can do it though system settings or run: "sudo adduser USERNAME" in a terminal
[14:02] <cjae> James147: isnt useradd the better one?
[14:02] <James147> cjae: useradd?
[14:03] <James147> cjae: heh, never seen that command before :)
[14:03] <yotux> BluesKaj:  I was going to buy the dvd software from the ubuntu store.  Try and keep my laptop legal go threw allot of airports and border crossings
[14:03] <BluesKaj> yotux, not sure but the medibuntu repos contains packages very similar to the fluendo package ..they're free ..dunno if they're legal in the US tho.
[14:03] <James147> cjae: although on the useradd man page it states: "On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead."
[14:04] <yotux> BluesKaj:  DMCA is still a little messing open source seems be be winning a little more all the time
[14:05] <yotux> BluesKaj:  Does kubuntu use gs-stream for audio codecs or are they using somethings else
[14:05] <BluesKaj> yotux, I've crossed into the US from Canada with my laptop 4 times in the last 2 yrs , customs has never bothered checking my laptop for illegal codecs
[14:05] <cjae> James147: sorry some updates installing quick
[14:05] <cjae> can you imagine
[14:05]  * cjae would likely snap if that happened
[14:07] <yotux> BluesKaj:  last time we came in from Asia they wanted to look at our laptops,  strange it was
[14:08] <BluesKaj> yotux, ahh asia eh, probly not concerned about codecs :)
[14:10] <yotux> BluesKaj:  Software, games, movies is what I was looking or thinking,      I just had to smile about it
[14:12] <BluesKaj> yotux, fluendo well is supported so that's a plus :)
[14:13] <yotux> BluesKaj: When I can I try to support the Ubuntu Store.  Need to order a new bag  and some more shirts
[14:14] <yotux> BluesKaj: Gstreamer is the only thing that worries me,  not sure how kubuntu codecs work  just switched over with a fresh install
[14:15] <yotux> Seems Gstreamer has python ties for hooks
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yeah, I have home made Tee with "Linux for the masses" on it ...ppl ask "what's Linux" ? I don't bother explaining anymore..it
[14:16] <cjae> cjae crosses finger for logout button to work
[14:16] <BluesKaj> 's just computer stuff
[14:17] <BluesKaj> yotux, not to worry gstreamer works fine on kde too
[14:18] <progre55> hi guys. how do you see a laptop power stat? like, how much W power it's using, etc
[14:18] <progre55> ?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> progre55, doesn't show in the toolbar ?
[14:20] <progre55> BluesKaj: not really, what toolbar?
[14:20] <yotux> progre55:  bottom bar right corner
[14:20] <BluesKaj> panel
[14:20] <progre55> BluesKaj: oh do you mean the battery indicator?
[14:21] <yotux> yotux:  thinks so
[14:21] <James147> progre55: if the battery widget dosent give you the info you need then you can run this: "cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/*"  or you can install powertop and run "sudo powertop"  to give you some nice detailed info about you power usages
[14:21] <progre55> James147: thanks
[14:22] <BluesKaj> powertop , ok
[14:23] <neatstuff> James147:(cjae) guess what?
[14:24] <James147> cjae: what?
[14:25]  * cjae realizes what was going to be said was inappropriate
[14:25] <cjae> composting works
[14:27] <cjae> compositing* works under different user
[14:29] <BajK> Hm so /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/branding.svgz always is the KDE logo, Kubuntu's branding icon for kickoff menu seems/has to be stored elsewhere?
[14:33] <cjae> James147: so how do I make it normal on other user? and I would like to not have to rm .kde
[14:38] <James147> cjae: ... I think its kwin thats responsible for it so you could try restting its settings to the defaults by renameing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[14:39] <James147> (then loggin out and back in again)
[14:39] <cjae> maybe it because I am not using fglrx driver on this user
[14:39] <cjae> logout is not an option for me
[14:39] <James147> cjae: I would think tahts a system wide settings rahter then a user spific one..
[14:40] <James147> cjae: then running "kwin --replace" might also work instaead of loggin out and back in
[14:40] <cjae> well I can always reboot but when I try to logout the system always freezes
[14:41] <cjae> and hard boot required
[14:41] <James147> cjae: freeze? at what screen?
[14:41] <cjae> the moment you click on the logout option
[14:42] <cjae> the confirmation logout thing
[14:42] <cjae> its been like that since 10.04 for me
[14:42] <cjae> sucks
[14:43] <James147> :s not seen that problem before... have you tried pressing alt+(print screen|sys req)+k?
[14:43] <cjae> whats that do?
[14:43] <James147> (when it freezes... that should restart x if the enritre computer ahsnlt locked up)
[14:44] <cjae> ya when it locks up I cant even drop to tty
[14:44] <James147> or alt+crtl+F1  to try and switch to a tty
[14:44] <James147> :(  not sure how to fix that problem... but "kwin --replace" should work after you renmae the file
[14:51] <cjae> James147: alt print k cause hard reboot although I could see myself trying to actually change ttys but could never see any text
[14:51] <cjae> cause me to*
[15:19] <gluca> kkk
[15:41] <sunny_slls> hello everybody
[15:41] <sunny_slls> i wan't to install kde-qt
[15:42] <sunny_slls> is there any repository that kubuntu supports?
[15:43] <sunny_slls> or should i straight away go for git repository
[15:43] <sunny_slls> ??
[15:44] <DarthFrog> sunny_slls: What do you want to do with a repository?
[15:45] <sunny_slls> DarthFrog, actually i want to install kde-qt and configure kde environment
[15:45] <sunny_slls> i installed qt previously by downloading the tar and then compiling it
[15:45] <sunny_slls> but it gave some problem
[15:45] <DarthFrog> But all that stuff is installed when kubuntu-desktop is installed.
[15:46] <sunny_slls> DarthFrog, oh!
[15:46] <DarthFrog> You don't have to compile anything.
[15:47] <sunny_slls> but i need to install qt right ?
[15:47] <DarthFrog> Run "systemsettings" and configure to your heart's content.
[15:49] <sunny_slls> DarthFrog, ya but i wanted to compile qt based programs
[15:49] <sunny_slls> and for that i need qt4.7 installed
[15:49] <sunny_slls> with kde environment configured
[15:49] <DarthFrog> Then install the -devel packages.
[15:50] <sunny_slls> shall i go for git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git?
[15:50] <sunny_slls> and install it from there
[15:50] <sunny_slls> ??
[15:50] <DarthFrog> "sudo apt-cache search devel | less" will tell you what's available.
[15:51] <sunny_slls> DarthFrog, but it installs qt4.6
[15:51] <sunny_slls> and not qt4.7
[15:51] <DarthFrog> !ppa
[15:51] <James147> sunny_slls: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[15:52] <sunny_slls> James147, kubuntu10.04
[15:52] <James147> sunny_slls: kde 4.7 is in 10.10
[15:53] <sunny_slls> James147, actually i installed kubuntu-plasma desktop from ubuntu
[15:53] <DarthFrog> sunny_slls: Doesn't matter.
[15:54] <sunny_slls> then what should i go for
[15:54] <DarthFrog> An upgrade to 10.10 first, is what it sounds like.
[15:54] <James147> sunny_slls: I think it would be best to upgrade...
[15:54] <sunny_slls> James147, can't i install qt4.7 in it
[15:54] <sunny_slls> ?
[15:55] <sunny_slls> James147, is it necessary to upgrade to 10.10
[15:55] <sunny_slls> ?
[15:55] <James147> sunny_slls: you can install 4.7 in 10.04...
[15:55] <sunny_slls> James147, i wanted to stick to 10.04 since it is LTS
[15:56] <James147> sunny_slls: normally its best to be on the latest stuff if you want to develop :S ... but you cvan get qt from http://qt.nokia.com/downloads
[15:56] <sunny_slls> ok
[16:04] <ale____> hey guys. i'm trying ot
[16:05] <ale____> i'm trying to install usb adsl modem manager. but the .deb says dependency is not satisfied : python-gnome2-extras. any ideas?
[16:07] <adz21c> is it possible to set some sort of timer on when certain events get clear from the plasma notification tray? I find myself clearing it a lot and most of it is stuff I only care about at the point of notification or would only want to review for a min after notification (eg. kopete status notification and amarok track changes)
[16:14] <ale____> i'm trying to install usb adsl modem manager. but the .deb says dependency is not satisfied : python-gnome2-extras. any ideas?
[16:34] <DexterF> hi
[16:34] <DexterF> how would I get a umts usb stick working in 8.10?
[16:39] <cosmic303> hello room. i have a problem with kubuntu 10.04. everytime i open an application in fullscreen, i only get the window bars, and a black screen. this happens e.g. with youtube videos, but open office documents as well. any ideas?
[16:46] <Riddell> cosmic303: have you tried turning off compositing (desktop effects)? (just a random guess)
[16:56] <buu_> cosmic303: yes compositing and Xrender or opengl in render options seems to have a big influence on some machines
[16:56] <buu_> Is anyone using kde3.x on lucid lynx?
[16:58] <cosmic303> indeed...now that i disabled compositing it works
[16:58] <cosmic303> strange...anything i can do there? i dont wanna miss my nice desktop effects :D
[17:00] <buu_> well if u have the latest xorg and all then I dont know what to do...
[17:01] <cosmic303> might try the latest nvidia driver, but other than that my system is up to dat
[17:01] <cosmic303> e
[17:01] <buu_> if Im not wrong (Icant chek right now) but can compositing be used even if the render option is turned from opengl to Xrender or viseversa?
[17:02] <buu_> in my machine the other one of those leads to disaster and another one to success
[17:02] <cosmic303> i have no idea..i never played with the settings at all
[17:03] <buu_> but I cant check which one im using right now
[17:05] <newkdeuser> i have a simple problem with kdevelop4, can someone please help?
[17:05] <cosmic303> ill give the new nvidia driver a try..thx guys...as always u have been a great and quick help!
[17:08] <newkdeuser> when i put a break point (for debugging) kdevelop4 doesnt show me the terminal
[17:09] <newkdeuser> so i cant enter data into my app; i read the kdevelop FAQ - but it doesnt apply to kdevelop4
[17:09] <newkdeuser> i am using kubuntu 10.10 and kdevelop4
[17:35] <sithlord48> the web page is down again
[17:56] <dmatt> kpackagekit segfaulted during update to 10.10 (there is some window with download still alive), how do I start update from terminal?
[17:59] <DarthFrog> sudo killall kpackagekit
[17:59] <DarthFrog> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  all on one line.
[18:03] <dmatt> DarthFrog: thanks, I'll try that
[18:06] <dmatt> DarthFrog: now when I checked, kpackagekit is down, but /usr/share/pyshared/UpdateManager/DistUpgradeFetcherKDE.py still works
[18:06] <dmatt> is that the main updater process?
[18:06] <DarthFrog> Don't know, sorry.
[18:07] <DarthFrog> Oh, you're doing a distro version upgrade.
[18:10] <DarthFrog> In that case, I think you have to do "sudo do-release-upgrade" instead.
[18:10] <cjae> k one more bug to fix, how do I make strigi/nepomuk not suspend upon login?
[18:11] <DarthFrog> cjae: I think you can set that in System Settings.
[18:24] <jacksonje> anyone know how to solve the problem with 4.5.3 install breaking kdm?
[18:27] <buu_> still no anyone using kde3.x in *buntu?
[18:30] <chuckf> buu_: not much point in it for most people
[18:31] <buu_> jea, I just want to know if it would be better performance with pentium3 laptop
[18:32] <buu_> or any good kde4 performance tips guide would be great too..
[18:32] <chuckf> buu_: most likely it would run better on that, but turning off effects in kde4 helps as well
[18:33] <buu_> well the internet says kde4 should be much faster than kde3 but there are people who says otherwise
[18:34] <buu_> yes maybe I will play with kde4 effects
[18:34] <buu_> kde4 is much nicer thou
[18:35] <chuckf> the problem is if you get something running for kde3 at this point you are behind the curve and will only fall further behind as time goes on
[18:35] <TFrog> anyone here have problems getting the new packages for KDE 4.5.3 to run on their laptops?
[18:35] <jacksonje> TFrog: It breaks on my desktop
[18:37] <TFrog> jacksonje, i attempted it three times in the last two days.  once loaded it stops loading the kdm splash screen and locks this old laptop.  even after a fresh install of 10.10 and the upgrade same story.  had to just sit it out for now.  hope that the developers figure it out.  shame i can't get packages for 4.5.2 again.  was hoping they'd made it to the backports but haven't yet
[18:37] <jacksonje> TFrog: you can still switch to the regular consoles after kdm freezes, but yes it sucks
[18:38] <TFrog> i loved what i found in 4.5.2 and was hoping for more out of 4.5.3 but alas i may have to shift to a lighter weight desktop for this old HP laptop
[18:38] <dmatt> Tf
[18:39] <dmatt> TFrog: when did you upgrade?
[18:39] <TFrog> attempted it three times in the last 72 hours
[18:39] <jacksonje> dmatt: I had that problem doing an upgrade last night
[18:41] <dmatt> jacksonje: because 4.5.3 was broken first day, it was not complete in repository
[18:41] <jacksonje> dmatt: is it complete now?
[18:41] <TFrog> dmatt, first attempt at upgrade was from 4.5.2 which i downloaded probably a week after it hit ppa.  i'm thinking maybe i should have waited a while before trying again
[18:41] <westy> in Ubuntu I can use DiskUtility to check smart info on a hard drive. What is the Kubuntu equvilient?
[18:42] <dmatt> jacksonje: yes
[18:43] <jacksonje> I'll try again and see what happens
[18:43]  * TFrog will wait another 5 days or so just to be sure
[18:43] <TFrog> i can't see having to reload again because of the issues
[18:43] <jacksonje> is there a command I can use to enable NetworkManager from the console if it fails again?
[18:44] <TFrog> btw.  ty to jacksonje and dmatt for the info.  have a nice day ladies and gentlemen
[19:01] <westy> why does kopete notify me of messages when the chat window is open? Nice to see a big pile of notices: typing, chat itself, reply.
[19:01] <westy> ugggg
[19:16] <Peace-> westy: you can disable them
[19:16] <Peace-> on settings
[19:18] <buu_> anyideas how to disable these annoying desktop hints on every little button and shortcuts?
[19:24] <sddasert> hi all
[19:24] <westy> Peace-: settings in the notifier or in kopete?
[19:24] <sddasert> advice me skype for linux
[19:24] <Peace-> kopete
[19:24] <sddasert> advice me skype for linux!
[19:26] <sddasert> hellooooooo.... anybody is here?!!!!!!!1
[19:26] <sddasert> 111
[19:26] <sddasert> ?
[19:26] <sddasert> LINUX SKYPE!!!
[19:26] <westy> sddasert: calm down. why would anyone use Skype?
[19:26] <sddasert> WHY I CANT FIND IT IN APT_EGT????
[19:26] <sddasert> I want video talk with girls!
[19:27] <buu_> why do I have a hand as mouse cursor on my desktop?
[19:27] <westy> have they opened the source yet?
[19:27] <sddasert> ALLLLLOOO
[19:27] <westy> video? kde has video chat
[19:27] <maco> !info skype
[19:27] <maco> bah
[19:27] <maco> you can get skype on skype.com
[19:27] <sddasert> [22:27] <maco> !info skype
[19:27] <sddasert> [19:27] <sddasert> ???
[19:27] <maco> there are .deb's
[19:27] <westy> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[19:27] <sddasert> which linux analog exists?
[19:28] <westy> skype uses a proprietary format from what i remember
[19:29] <westy> but if you use an open format there are several things.
[19:29] <maco> sddasert: skype for linux exists
[19:29] <westy> yep just click the link above :)
[19:29] <sddasert> maco   AND?
[19:29] <sddasert> maco  WTF   TELLLLL ME
[19:29] <sddasert> maco  for what did you said that they exists?????
[19:30] <maco> sddasert: go to skype.com and hit download
[19:30] <sddasert> maco  YES ... you have one....  but I NEED OWN!
[19:30] <sddasert> maco SO... I have done
[19:30] <maco> why are you shouting?
[19:30] <sddasert> skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
[19:30] <westy> sddasert: dude, you are annoying
[19:31] <sddasert> I am nervous
[19:31] <maco> and rude
[19:31] <westy> here http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-install-latest-skype-in-ubuntu.html
[19:31] <sddasert> may be
[19:31] <westy> or here
[19:31] <westy> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/install-skype-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
[19:31] <sddasert> westy  ???
[19:31] <sddasert> westy  get out
[19:31] <sddasert> which installer
[19:32] <sddasert> gpcgrk ?
[19:32] <sddasert> qdpg
[19:32] <westy> dude i sent you two links. one is step by step instructions for installing skype in Linux Maverick. I dont think i can be any more clear
[19:32] <sddasert> gp ?
[19:32] <sddasert> gnu installer  ?
[19:32] <sddasert> skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
[19:32] <sddasert> dp...
[19:32] <sddasert> which command for installing?
[19:33] <westy> please click on the second link and follow the instructions
[19:33] <sddasert> dudes
[19:33] <sddasert> aaaaaa
[19:33] <sddasert> telll
[19:33] <maco> sddasert: perhaps you should ask people who speak your language to tell you in your language
[19:33] <westy> you will use kpackagekit to change the software sources so it is a little different
[19:33] <maco> because english is pretty clearly not working very well
[19:33] <sddasert> maco  My english ist best
[19:33] <westy> maco: could i be any more obvious?
[19:34] <maco> westy: it looks like a language barrier to me
[19:34] <sddasert> WHI SAID THAT I HAVE 10 VERSION????
[19:34] <sddasert> I gave 8.04
[19:34] <westy> please dont shout.
[19:35] <sddasert> yes
[19:36] <westy> I want to help. I did make the assumption you had a current version. I appologize.
[19:36] <westy> do you know where to find your software sources list?
[19:36] <maco> why didnt you say that from the start?
[19:37] <maco> "hi, i'm running version 8.04, and i would like to install skype. could someone please help me?" <-- all you had to say
[19:38] <westy> if you check to enable "Ubuntu software partner" source, you will then find Skype in your package manager.
[19:39] <maco> i dont think it was in partner way back then...
[19:39] <maco> i think you need to use the skype.com deb
[19:40] <westy> in that case, clicking on the .Deb file you downloaded from the Skype webpage should start a package manager and install it.
[19:40] <sddasert> hi, i'm running version 8.04, and i would like to install skype. could someone please help me?
[19:40] <Peace-> 8.04?
[19:40] <Peace-> no more support for that
[19:40] <Peace-> anyway...
[19:40] <westy> maco: i would suggest upgrading to a newer version first :)
[19:40] <sddasert> Peace-  ??? and?  I want to use this version
[19:41] <Peace-> sddasert: here we supporto only supported stuff..
[19:41] <Peace-> officially
[19:41] <westy> how old is that? 2.5 years ago?
[19:41] <Peace-> xD
[19:41] <maco> yes
[19:41] <westy> http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/
[19:41] <westy> whoops wrong link
[19:42] <westy> http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/ubuntuhardyheron_cat/1021-install-and-configure-skype-on-ubuntu-804
[19:42] <westy> there we go follow that link
[19:42] <sddasert> fuck.... after installing instraction on links above.. my pc keep
[19:43] <sddasert> I added sorces links in apropriete place
[19:44] <sddasert> duck fuccckers
[19:44] <rekirssi> hi i opened a trminal how can i return to kde?
[19:44] <sddasert> rekirssi )))
[19:44] <sddasert> pom pom pom
[19:44] <rekirssi> ?
[19:45] <sddasert> rekirssi hi
[19:45] <rekirssi> i'm rek
[19:45] <sddasert> rekirssi i'm too\
[19:45] <rekirssi> rek running irssi
[19:45] <rekirssi> so i'm in a terminal how can i return to KDE ?
[19:47] <maco> !language | sddasert
[19:47] <maco> oh hmm yeah i forgot 8.04 kubuntu isnt LTS
[19:47] <maco> only 8.04 ubuntu
[19:49] <Peace-> maco: it's not that
[19:49] <Peace-> maco: the new lts it's 10.04
[19:49] <maco> right but 8.04 was LTS for ubuntu too
[19:49] <maco> so the ubuntu desktop is supported til next year
[19:49] <sddasert> LTS ???
[19:49] <maco> 8.04 *k*ubuntu was not LTS though
[19:49] <sddasert> MTS?
[19:49] <maco> so its no longer supported as of... a year ago
[19:49] <sddasert> WRC
[19:49] <Peace-> kernel it's the same
[19:50] <maco> LTS = Long Term Support
[19:50] <sddasert> MMS
[19:50] <sddasert> SMS
[19:50] <Peace-> repository are the samy
[19:50] <Peace-> same
[19:50] <sddasert> RSS
[19:50] <sddasert> CSS
[19:50] <maco> yes, but the kde apps will not receive any more updates
[19:50] <sddasert> UML
[19:50] <sddasert> GSM
[19:50] <maco> sddasert: STOP
[19:50] <Peace-> maco: skype is not kde stuff
[19:50] <maco> i will remove you if you dont stop flood spamming
[19:50] <maco> Peace-: yeah i know
[19:50] <sddasert> maco ok
[19:51] <maco> Peace-: but 10.04 being an LTS doesn't make 8.04 stop being an LTS
[19:51] <maco> 8.04 is supported on the server through 2013 and on the gnome desktop through 2011
[19:52] <rek> sddasert: go to skype web page
[19:54] <sddasert> rek  I want to see girls in my skype
[19:54] <sddasert> without clother
[19:54] <DarthFrog> sddasert: Oh, you're on the wrong IRC server for that.
[19:55] <maco> sddasert: thats not an appropriate topic here
[19:56] <maco> sddasert: didnt you see the message i had the bot say to you earlier about keeping things family friendly?
[19:56] <rek> sddasert: easy
[19:56] <maco> let me show you again
[19:56] <maco> !ohmy
[19:56] <maco> !language
[19:57] <rek> sddasert: you need to call a pc but you're friend must have the webcam
[20:00] <sddasert> "Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly."  - should I understand that bot told me "fuck you, gude" ?
[20:07] <Javihe> Hola
[20:08] <Javihe> ¿Alguien por ahí?
[20:30] <kubuntu> 7join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:48] <millun> hi, i when i try to update the system i get an error about /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic_2.6.32-25.45_amd64.deb
[20:48] <millun> any ideas?
[21:15] <andrewh192> was wondering if someone knew if the errors were fixed with the new update of kde
[21:15] <andrewh192> regarding the update itself
[21:16] <kkathman> I just upgraded to 10.10, but for some reason, my network settings can't seem to see my mac on the network...any ideas?
[21:17] <kkathman> It can see the winbox just fine...and I was able to back up in 10.4 just fine
[21:20] <andrewh192> kkathman: not sure what to tell ya.. Not an expert on kubuntu, but... i have a mac on the same network as my linux based computer
[21:20] <kkathman> yeah...I did too
[21:20] <andrewh192> and can mount it on my computter
[21:20] <valorie> andrewh192: yes
[21:20] <andrewh192> u have to make sure you have the sharing setup on the mac setup right
[21:20] <valorie> I successfully upgraded yesterday to 4.5.2
[21:20] <kkathman> the mac sees the other two fine. The winbox sees the other two fine...it's just the linux box that's only seeing the winbox
[21:20] <andrewh192> ok
[21:21] <andrewh192> gotcha
[21:21]  * andrewh192 goes to update the ppa info
[21:21] <kkathman> I even set the workgroups the same!
[21:21] <andrewh192> hmmm, not sure what to tell ya
[21:21] <andrewh192> someone else in here might be able to help ya more than i though
[21:23] <andrewh192> 4.5.3 or 4.5.2?
[21:23] <andrewh192> valorie: you upgraded to which one?
[21:24] <kkathman> OK fixed it
[21:25] <kkathman> seems that it just takes time for ubuntu to find it
[21:25] <andrewh192> valorie: because when i last tried to update to 4.5.3 it ended up removing a whole bunch of stuff that was necessary to run the computer... ended up having to reinstall from scratch
[21:25] <andrewh192> kkathman: kewl, sounds good...
[21:26] <kkathman> ya weird...I closeed dolphin....reopened...and boom there it was :)
[21:27] <andrewh192> kkathman: kewl,.... hey, which version of KDE do you have? 4.5.3?
[21:28] <kkathman> andrewh192:  I assume the "latest" since I just upgraded everything
[21:29] <kkathman> I thought that when I moved to 10.10 it upgraded kde too, I reckon
[21:29] <kkathman> looks like I have 4.5.1
[21:30] <andrewh192> kkathman: you have to add something to the system sources settings... for it to update to the newest 4.5.3
[21:30] <kkathman> ahh ok...I just did an auto update
[21:31] <andrewh192> kkathman: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.3
[21:36] <kkathman> thanks andrewh192
[21:37] <andrewh192> yeah
[21:37] <andrewh192> but be careful
[21:37] <andrewh192> mighg want to verify that they fixed the update
[21:39] <kkathman> andrewh192:  seems like I had a problem a few releases back, having both the regular and ppa sources
[21:41] <andrewh192> yeah
[21:41] <andrewh192> kkathman: so what's ur suggestion?
[21:41] <andrewh192> kkathman: maybe just to wait til it comes via the already installed settings
[21:42] <andrewh192> kkathman: rather than entering the ppa source
[22:14] <Alex21> hello! i`m new to linux and i installed ubuntu 10.10 in dual with my win xp. I have 2 HDD ( 1st with one partition with win xp on it[c] and the 2nd has two partiotions[d]&[e] and i used [e] to install ubuntu) . The thing is now it won`t load any of the OSs. Anyone knows where i did something wrong?       I asked this on Ubuntu channel but it`s hard to get an answer there..
[22:18] <elimental_> Alex21:  check your bios what I suspect is that you installed the boot loader to the wrong HD, just change the order they boot to conferm
[22:19] <Alex21> i tryed to bot from both
[22:19] <Alex21> and failed
[22:19] <Alex21> when i installed it it was set as default to install the bootloader on the 1st HDD
[22:20] <Alex21> and it didn`t work..
[22:20] <Alex21> so i tried to install it on the 2nd HDD and still no luck
[22:20] <Alex21> now i`m installing ubuntu for the 3rd time
[22:21] <Alex21> i`ll say the options here when i`m getting to that part
[22:22] <elimental_> If you installed the boot loader on both only other things I can think of
[22:22] <elimental_> 1 boot drive type is incoreect
[22:23] <elimental_> I would still say problem is in the bios someware
[22:24] <Alex21> i tried to switch in bios the boot order in all the posiblle ways
[22:24] <Elimental> I am with you
[22:24] <Alex21> and it doesen`t load any of the OS
[22:24] <Elimental> wuestion is this SATA drives?
[22:24] <Elimental> question*
[22:25] <Elimental> have you tried enabling ide sata support
[22:25] <Elimental> Did you use specific drivers to install windows XP on this system?
[22:26] <Alex21> uhmm...no
[22:27] <Alex21> win xp sp 2 CD .. and the drivers for the MB and video card..and that`s all
[22:28] <Elimental> Sorry then thats the only things I could think off drawing from experiance... maybe someone els can assist
[22:28] <Elimental> I can tell you how to fix Windows XP to boot
[22:30] <Elimental> boot from Xp CD goto command prompt and run fixmbr as for why GRUB is not booting I wont be able to help
[22:30] <Elimental> then again 3 in the morning here so my brain not working 100% :)
[22:31] <Alex21> sry..i was in the other room ( at the pc where i want to install linux)
[22:32] <Alex21> so i got to that part again and it looks like this :
[22:32] <Alex21>  dev/sda
[22:32] <Alex21>  dev/sda1 ntfs 80gb
[22:32] <Alex21>  dev/sdb
[22:32] <Alex21>  dev/sdb1 ntfs 79gb
[22:33] <Alex21>  dev ext4 /  10gb
[22:33] <Alex21>  dev/sdb5 ext4 /home 69gb
[22:33] <Alex21>  dev/sdb6 swap 2gb
[22:33] <Alex21> Boot loader
[22:34] <Alex21> Device for boot loader installer
[22:34] <Elimental> dev/sda
[22:34] <Alex21> and i have to choose from
[22:34] <Alex21>  dev/sda ata wdc ... 80 gb (default)
[22:34] <Alex21>  dev/sda1 microsoft xp pro
[22:34] <Elimental> sb sda
[22:35] <Elimental> /dev/sda
[22:35] <alejandro> hi people, I want create a small shell  that execute in daemon mode and pass strings ,can help any?
[22:35] <Alex21>  dev/sdb 1     sdb2 and sd5
[22:36] <Alex21> the thing is it was set for dev/sda and it didn`t work
[22:36] <Elimental> thats what it should be if that is selected the problem is someware els
[22:36] <andrewh192> hey
[22:37] <andrewh192> you know if they corrected the install errors of KDE 4.5.3?
[22:38] <Elimental> oooh look a bed....
[22:38] <Alex21> no no..don`t go to bed ..
[22:38] <Alex21> :)
[22:40] <Alex21> so..should i try to fix the mbr with win xp cd?
[23:04] <andrewh192> anyone know if they have fixed the install errors in KDE 4.5.3?
[23:05] <pneumomini> hi
[23:05] <andrewh192> hey
[23:05] <andrewh192> pneumomini: you know anything about the latest 4.5.3 update?
[23:06] <pneumomini> no
[23:06] <pneumomini> i didnt try
[23:06] <andrewh192> pneumomini: oh... when i tried to updatae
[23:06] <pneumomini> there is problem
[23:06] <andrewh192> pneumomini: it ended up deleting or "removing" some important stuff from my computer
[23:06] <andrewh192> pneumomini: such as kdedesktop
[23:06] <andrewh192> pneumomini: and about i think 7 other things
[23:08] <pneumomini> its not normal
[23:08] <andrewh192> did the ppa:kubuntu-ppa thing
[23:08] <andrewh192> yeah
[23:08] <andrewh192> and it was downhill from there
[23:08] <andrewh192> ended up having to reinstall Kubuntu like 3 times in 2 days
[23:08] <andrewh192> i could still get the console
[23:08] <andrewh192> but
[23:08] <pneumomini> you tried to desinstall
[23:08] <andrewh192> not that great with console sessions
[23:09] <andrewh192> i know gthere is a purge command i found out about
[23:09] <Riddell> andrewh192: the packages which were missing when it was first announced are now there
[23:09] <Riddell> so there should be no problems
[23:09] <Riddell> sorry for the hassle
[23:09] <andrewh192> kewl
[23:09] <andrewh192> thanx
[23:09] <pneumomini> you tried to install missing things
[23:09] <andrewh192> well
[23:09] <andrewh192> i guess its ok now
[23:09] <pneumomini> ok
[23:09]  * andrewh192 goes to install 4.5.3
[23:10] <andrewh192> then off to a meeting
[23:10] <andrewh192> laterz guys
[23:10] <andrewh192> aloha Riddell
[23:12] <sampo> How I can upgrade my distro to 10.10? I got no 10.04
[23:13] <sampo> Previous it was some klick via ksystemupdate
[23:14] <andrewh192> bye guys
[23:28] <andrewh192> Riddell: hey
[23:28] <andrewh192> Riddell: just did the ppa:kubuntu-ppa thing
[23:28] <andrewh192> and this is the result i got
[23:31] <andrewh192> Riddell: http://picpaste.com/kdeupdate453.png
[23:31] <andrewh192> anywho
[23:31] <andrewh192> going to my meeting
[23:31] <andrewh192> if anyone knows anything about this
[23:32] <andrewh192> let me know
[23:45] <ish_> hey guys i have twinview dual monitors, and my games on fullscreen run on both monitors
[23:45] <ish_> anyone know how to fix this?