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czzhow can i take a screenshot in lubuntu?01:27
stlsaintyou may have to install a program01:29
czzhow?01:30
stlsaintIn your main lxde button, under Preferences there is the Synaptic Package manager01:32
stlsaintfrom there you can install anything01:32
czzit asks for a password01:32
stlsaintczz: are you on the livecd?01:33
czzstlsaint, no01:33
stlsaintwell enter your password01:33
czznot my computer.01:34
stlsaintwell who's ever computer it is needs to enter their login password01:36
czzthey're gone.01:37
stlsaintwell you wont be able to install anything without their password01:38
czzhow'd you come to that conclusion?01:39
stlsaintczz: are you new to linux?01:39
czzstlsaint, no01:39
stlsaintczz: alright so you understand that it requires root access to install anything01:40
czzstlsaint, why?01:41
stlsaintphillw: ping01:42
szczurczz, press PrintScreen, this should make a screenshot in your home folder01:43
stlsaintczz: i didnt make the operating system01:43
szczurat least it works this way in default installation01:43
czzszczur, i want to edit the area.01:43
szczurso Alt+PrintScreen gets the actual window01:44
stlsaintczz: well boot to livecd and take screenshot from there01:44
szczuror install gnome-screenshot01:45
szczurahh, you don't know the password >_>01:45
szczur...01:45
stlsainthehe01:45
czzstlsaint, livecd?01:46
stlsaintczz: how much experience do you have with linux?01:46
czzstlsaint, tons01:46
szczuri see01:47
stlsaintphillw: PING01:47
czzstlsaint, i code for bsd01:47
szczurso you should know what livecd is01:48
szczurif you're using sich system like BSD01:48
czzszczur, not necessary01:48
szczurwhich is harder by any meaning :)01:48
stlsaintbioterror: PING01:48
szczurczz, here is the iso http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso01:49
szczurdownlod, burn, boot01:49
czzszczur, how do i burn?01:49
stlsaintPING PING PING01:49
stlsaintholy crap where is everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!01:49
stlsaintthank God02:21
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ubuXubugood morning techniicans04:47
phillwubuXubu: hiyas, sorry I was on the offtopic room, how may we help you?04:51
ubuXubui am not sure you can help me a this time. i am currently running ubuntu 10.04 and everything seems to be fine. thank you for asking. aloha.04:52
phillwubuXubu: join #lubuntu-offtopic although if you're running ubuntu you may be better off on #ubuntu-beginners lubuntu is one of the family04:57
ubuXubuthank you.04:57
sghhi08:04
sghafter the latest update of flashplayer nonfree it stopped to work08:04
sghwhat is the best way to revert to an older version? a .deb?08:05
phillwsgh: are you running 10.10 lubuntu?08:16
sghphillw: yeah08:26
sghI'm using xorg-edgers PPA aswell but they don't maintain any flash player there08:27
phillwthere is a lubuntu-restricted packages that may revert it for you.08:27
phillwsgh: I'd have to a bit of digging, but I will have the link somewhere08:28
sghphillw: sorry, I forgot to mention that I don't use Chromium. I use Firefox, therefore I talk about flash player nonfree08:36
sghwell I will use Chromium for flash related things till the problem gets solved by an update or something like that then08:37
phillwsgh: ahh.... that's different then... give me a couple of minutes to drag up the link for FFox08:37
phillwsgh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 and lovinglinux is a really nice guy as well.08:39
sghphillw: thanks for the link, I'll search for a solution08:47
phillwsgh: he keeps the documentation really up to date, as fellow documenter I really appreciate the work he puts in to it and the fact he will always reply to people with problems on that thread.08:49
sghphillw: I've just realized some odd behaviour. Chromium can't play any flash videos aswell08:59
sghlubuntu-restricted extras is installed08:59
phillwsgh: I have both browsers and have no problem on either, so I'm unsure as to where your problem lies. maybe bioterror can help?09:01
sghhave you updated your system today or yesterday? my problem occured after updating yesterday09:02
phillwmy advice in that case would be to log a post on to lovinglinux's thread, as it is possible that they have broken something.09:03
phillwbut that would be the flash plugin, and affect all of the *buntu family.09:04
sghokay09:05
sghthanks for your help and advice :)09:05
phillwsgh: I'm just checking with a forum staffer to see if it is a general problem.09:07
ubuXubuu may not have installed .deb09:08
ubuXubuor in some cases the correct one to choose is 8.04 i have noticed09:09
ubuXubumaybe somehow the update altered that09:09
phillwsgh: "not that I know of - I've not got a flash update - or if I have I didn't notice either it or it causing issues"09:09
ubuXubuhmm09:10
* phillw so there is no reports on the forum area of an issue, sgh log a post to lovinglinux's thread. 09:11
sghafter looking for the exact name of the component which was updated in synaptic I realized that it wasn't installed, quite odd because I watched some youtube videos yesterday (and Firefox 3.6 doesn't support html5 view)09:29
sghwell that problem is solved now, thank you09:29
sghnext time I'll look into the thread by lovinglinux first09:30
phillwsgh: good to hear, glad it sorted and glad to have been of help in pointing you in the right direction :)09:31
bioterrorI would suggest to use Chromium10:34
NativeAngelshello11:07
NativeAngelscan someone help me with the alternative version11:31
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manfredrastais there lubuntu 10.10 available?16:15
SortiEyes16:16
SortiEit is16:16
manfredrastai have allready lubuntu 10.0416:18
manfredrastahow to upgrade?16:18
SortiEit should be available at update manager i think16:20
SortiEi did a fresh install so i am not sure of it..16:23
phillwSortiE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10?16:23
phillwSorry for the delay I was on another support channel, they do keep us busy ;)16:24
SortiEi didnt asked manfredrasta did :)16:24
phillwmanfredrasta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10?16:27
manfredrastathanks16:34
manfredrastawhere do i find update managar?16:44
phillwmanfredrasta: it should be under preferences?16:46
phillwmanfredrasta: else just start an lxterminal session and run the command.16:47
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pizuxhi17:11
bioterrorhowdy17:12
pizuxhey i've just finished a script with zenity very usefull for link an icon shortcut on lxde desktop17:12
pizuxis someone want to test it http://pastebin.com/CA80A2AX17:12
kosaidpo1hello peolpe17:13
pizuxhello kosaidpo117:14
kosaidpo1pizux:  : )17:15
kosaidpo1do you kno any way to foce the mahcine to use more swap ??17:15
pizuxsomething like that ?sudo sysctl vm.swappiness17:20
pizuxsudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10017:21
pizuxdefault is 6017:21
Kurdistansysctl vm.swappiness=10017:22
szczurohh, didn't know that :)17:22
szczurthanks pizux17:22
szczur:)17:22
pizuxadd it to /etc/sysctl.conf17:23
szczurhmm, so lower number would force it to use ram in favor of swap, forcing background processes go there, am i right?17:25
Kurdistanpizux he dont need if use command that I posted, but this is how he can do. gksudo leafpad /etc/sysctl.conf17:25
Kurdistanthen add this in the botton vm.swappiness = 100 and finally save it17:26
Kurdistanafter reboot it will use 100 %17:26
Kurdistancat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness   <<<--- by this command you can know how much it is17:26
bioterrorwhy you guy swant to play with swap?-)17:27
szczurjust tinkering :P17:27
pizuxbecause it don't have any ram maybe17:27
szczur:>>>17:27
Kurdistanpizux, you can make ram with help of gparted17:28
Kurdistanif you have lubuntu livecd17:29
Kurdistanuse it17:29
Kurdistaninstall gparted and then make swap partition17:29
Kurdistanit is really easy17:29
szczuror make a swapfile17:29
szczurno need of paritioning17:30
szczurhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/17:30
Kurdistanszcur :) your link is easy good for pizux. maybee my way is more difficult.17:31
szczurKurdistan, your way is as good as mine :)17:31
szczurjust doesn't need partitioning17:31
kosaidpohello guys17:32
kosaidpoicant launch my compy on start up17:32
kosaidpoeven i put a file .conky17:32
kosaidpostill not17:32
bioterrorjust installing conky to my wife's fresh lubuntu installation ;)17:32
szczuri think conky is probably runing, but pcmanfm is in front of it17:33
szczurthere was a conky setting for lxde with pcmanfm, just forgot where it was17:33
kosaidpobioterror: well the install  was cool now when i launch it it has that bar from where ican lose it nad stuff17:33
kosaidpoand icant get it tp launch durin the boot17:34
KurdistanI think lubuntu 10.10 is a bit buggy compare to 10.0417:34
kosaidposzczur: does it have problems with pcmanfm??17:34
szczurmake sure that your conky rc have options mentioned in this post (last code)17:35
szczuri know it is in polish :)17:35
Kurdistankasaidpo, write conky on run. you will see it if lxde menu does not show it.17:35
szczurhttp://debian.linux.pl/threads/10785-conky-pod-lxde17:35
kosaidposzczur: okies17:35
Kurdistanor what was your problem?17:35
szczuror maybe i think this will be better > http://blog.lxde.org/?p=68417:35
szczurkosaidpo, and before you will do anything17:36
Kurdistankasaidpo you want to autostart conky in lubuntu?17:36
kosaidposzczur: yeah cus icant read : )17:36
szczurpleased make sure that it doesn't appear after executing it in terminal17:36
Kurdistando like this: go to; 1./home/username/.config/autostart17:37
szczurplease*17:37
pizuxkosaidpo, perhaps you could try my zenity script for your wife ?17:37
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pizuxhttp://pastebin.com/CA80A2AX17:37
Kurdistanopen new tab in pcmanfm and go to: /usr/share/applications17:38
kosaidposzczur: okies got it right17:38
Kurdistancopy the conky icon and past it to 1./home/username/.config/autostart17:38
kosaidpothanks17:38
kosaidpobut please what the function to make some margin17:38
kosaidpogoin to pay guys17:46
kosaidpothanks17:46
kosaidpoill brb17:47
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kosaidpohow can i make the most use of swap as in use it more n let the ram be lil cool20:47
head_victimYou don't really want to use swap I wouldn't have thought.20:47
head_victimSwap is much slower than ram.20:48
kosaidpoahh yehh20:48
kosaidpotrue20:48
acydlordswap is slower than ram and wears out your hdd20:48
kosaidpocus its hdd20:48
phillwkosaidpo:   you can increase swappiness, but as head_victim says it will slow your system down.20:48
kosaidpoi read that somewhere20:48
kosaidpookies guys thanks u jst makde me rember that fact20:50
kosaidpobtw how can i make conky use some cool pic to show the stats of the machine20:50
acydlordkosaidpo: i've got a conky that is basically the same is this one if you want it https://dl.dropbox.com/u/150051/dhs.jpg20:59
head_victimMine's a bit boring http://www.flickr.com/photos/45015261@N04/5092405565/21:00
kosaidpoacydlord: thanks but ihave like this one21:00
kosaidpoguys ill showu mine is very simple21:01
kosaidpohere u go guys http://i53.tinypic.com/7160s4.png21:07
kosaidpose mine its so basic21:07
kosaidpohead_victim: :S21:07
acydlordI keep everything minimalistic on mine, the only difference from the one I posted and now is that the current has epoch time and weather21:09
kosaidpoyeah but thees some fany sets so u kno21:10
kosaidposomtimes ucan resit it21:10
head_victimI try to mirror mine across all the desktops and laptops I have so I can always just look to wherever I need to find stuff21:10
acydlordhead_victim: same here, i have my ~/.config in my dropbox lol21:11
head_victimacydlord: yeah only bummer is different hardware has different sensor setups.21:11
acydlordhead_victim: I actually have that coded in since conky supports booleans21:12
head_victimacydlord: fair enough, I decided I'd spent too much time on it already when I got it to the stage I'm at now ;)21:13
head_victimThe only thing I really would like to add would probably be the external IP listing under network.21:13
kosaidpohead_victim:  im lookin in the post u gave me21:13
kosaidpoim llokin for sumthin ready :S21:13
acydlordhead_victim: that is one i should add to my network section21:14
head_victimI've thought about making email and weather show up instead of the inbound and outbound connections but I still run gnome-weather on the main pc.21:14
acydlordshould probably add my virtualbox ip as well so i dont have to dig for it21:14
head_victimI'm on a dynamic IP so it kinda makes it hard to remember. Also when using the wireless on the laptop I get different ones every time.21:15
acydlordahh, i have a custom script i built on weather.com but i'm going to be switching it to wunderground soon21:15
kosaidpoguys nethin fancy here21:16
head_victimacydlord: do they require accounts?21:16
acydlordhead_victim: they're built on api calls21:17
acydlordso nopes21:17
acydlordwell they require my API key, and weather.com tends to be a bit greedy if too many people use that one21:17
acydlordpart of why im switching to wunderground21:17
head_victimAh k when I was looking into it they almost all seemed to call for api calls to sites you had to have accounts for and I just decided it wasn't worth the effort.21:17
acydlordcool part about having a premium account on wunderground is that you can develop with your key so users dont need an account21:19
kosaidpoguys im lookin fro sumthin fancy21:20
kosaidpoplease any links21:20
head_victimkosaidpo: http://conkyhardcore.com/21:22
kosaidpohead_victim: thanks21:23
acydlordkosaidpo: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/conky also in their forums are many good conkyrc files with screenshots21:23
szczurhttp://szczur.ath.cx/sshots/screen4.png < this is mine21:27
szczurpretty minimal21:28
head_victimI still use the default desktop on the basis I never actually see my desktop, there's always stuff open21:29
acydlordi usually change mine up since i run practically everything except mail and browser in tilda terminals21:30
head_victimCurrently on the pc over <- way I have me-tv running and this one has xchat, 2 text files and a terminal open.21:31
kosaidposzczur: yeh nice how can i get like those pics of the car speed thingy21:31
szczurkosaidpo, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=722041#p72204121:33
kosaidposzczur: thanks21:33
bioterrorszczur, you need faster upload ;)21:33
szczurbioterror, i'm downloading drivers for my sister21:34
szczurbut yeah, my connection sucks :)21:34
kosaidpoguys when i rebooted my conky appeared then disapeared i read abit this earlier but icant find it now21:58
kosaidpoany idea guys how to fix it21:58
bioterror:D21:58
kosaidpocant find it :(22:04
kosaidpoany idea guys22:04
bioterrorwhat you cant find22:05
bioterrorown_window yes22:05
kosaidpoearlier today i read the fix of this issue22:05
kosaidpobut now icant find it22:05
bioterrorown_window_type normal22:06
bioterrordouble_buffer yes22:06
kosaidpobioterror: got those22:06
kosaidpo guess i shud let conky sleep for some scd right22:07
kosaidpobut idk hwp to put in the .desktop file22:07
head_victimown_window_class Conky22:07
head_victimown_window_type root22:07
head_victimThat solved my issue with it dissapearing on me22:07
kosaidpohead_victim: okies ill try it22:08
* kosaidpo rebootin22:09
kosaidpohead_victim: that tric didnt work22:37
kosaidpowhen i open up my browser22:37
kosaidpoconky gone22:37
bioterrortweak own_window_type22:39
kosaidpoi have it as widget22:40
kosaidpowht shud i put22:40
bioterrorwell22:40
bioterrorI have normal22:40
bioterrorand works great22:40
head_victimI like it on my desktop22:41
kosaidpowell iliked this one i found ut still not workin corretly22:41
kosaidpotho but iwud prefer to get one with images22:41
kosaidpou kno those thingies that indicate speed's car22:41
bioterroryou want lua or what ever those are22:42
kosaidpouhn sorry idk whats lua ?22:42
kosaidpoi only rember la its song for bright eyes : )22:43
kosaidpobut i dont listen to lusic anymore22:43
kosaidpothanks god22:43
kosaidpobioterror:link  meplease22:43
bioterrorhttp://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=Category:Lua22:48
kosaidpoi found this http://sen7.deviantart.com/art/Conky-NightDrive-15141830922:49
kosaidpobioterror: thanks22:49
kosaidpoa lot today : )22:50

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