[01:27] <czz> how can i take a screenshot in lubuntu?
[01:29] <stlsaint> you may have to install a program
[01:30] <czz> how?
[01:32] <stlsaint> In your main lxde button, under Preferences there is the Synaptic Package manager
[01:32] <stlsaint> from there you can install anything
[01:32] <czz> it asks for a password
[01:33] <stlsaint> czz: are you on the livecd?
[01:33] <czz> stlsaint, no
[01:33] <stlsaint> well enter your password
[01:34] <czz> not my computer.
[01:36] <stlsaint> well who's ever computer it is needs to enter their login password
[01:37] <czz> they're gone.
[01:38] <stlsaint> well you wont be able to install anything without their password
[01:39] <czz> how'd you come to that conclusion?
[01:39] <stlsaint> czz: are you new to linux?
[01:39] <czz> stlsaint, no
[01:40] <stlsaint> czz: alright so you understand that it requires root access to install anything
[01:41] <czz> stlsaint, why?
[01:42] <stlsaint> phillw: ping
[01:43] <szczur> czz, press PrintScreen, this should make a screenshot in your home folder
[01:43] <stlsaint> czz: i didnt make the operating system
[01:43] <szczur> at least it works this way in default installation
[01:43] <czz> szczur, i want to edit the area.
[01:44] <szczur> so Alt+PrintScreen gets the actual window
[01:44] <stlsaint> czz: well boot to livecd and take screenshot from there
[01:45] <szczur> or install gnome-screenshot
[01:45] <szczur> ahh, you don't know the password >_>
[01:45] <szczur> ...
[01:45] <stlsaint> hehe
[01:46] <czz> stlsaint, livecd?
[01:46] <stlsaint> czz: how much experience do you have with linux?
[01:46] <czz> stlsaint, tons
[01:47] <szczur> i see
[01:47] <stlsaint> phillw: PING
[01:47] <czz> stlsaint, i code for bsd
[01:48] <szczur> so you should know what livecd is
[01:48] <szczur> if you're using sich system like BSD
[01:48] <czz> szczur, not necessary
[01:48] <szczur> which is harder by any meaning :)
[01:48] <stlsaint> bioterror: PING
[01:49] <szczur> czz, here is the iso http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso
[01:49] <szczur> downlod, burn, boot
[01:49] <czz> szczur, how do i burn?
[01:49] <stlsaint> PING PING PING
[01:49] <stlsaint> holy crap where is everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:21] <stlsaint> thank God
[04:47] <ubuXubu> good morning techniicans
[04:51] <phillw> ubuXubu: hiyas, sorry I was on the offtopic room, how may we help you?
[04:52] <ubuXubu> i am not sure you can help me a this time. i am currently running ubuntu 10.04 and everything seems to be fine. thank you for asking. aloha.
[04:57] <phillw> ubuXubu: join #lubuntu-offtopic although if you're running ubuntu you may be better off on #ubuntu-beginners lubuntu is one of the family
[04:57] <ubuXubu> thank you.
[08:04] <sgh> hi
[08:04] <sgh> after the latest update of flashplayer nonfree it stopped to work
[08:05] <sgh> what is the best way to revert to an older version? a .deb?
[08:16] <phillw> sgh: are you running 10.10 lubuntu?
[08:26] <sgh> phillw: yeah
[08:27] <sgh> I'm using xorg-edgers PPA aswell but they don't maintain any flash player there
[08:27] <phillw> there is a lubuntu-restricted packages that may revert it for you.
[08:28] <phillw> sgh: I'd have to a bit of digging, but I will have the link somewhere
[08:36] <sgh> phillw: sorry, I forgot to mention that I don't use Chromium. I use Firefox, therefore I talk about flash player nonfree
[08:37] <sgh> well I will use Chromium for flash related things till the problem gets solved by an update or something like that then
[08:37] <phillw> sgh: ahh.... that's different then... give me a couple of minutes to drag up the link for FFox
[08:39] <phillw> sgh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 and lovinglinux is a really nice guy as well.
[08:47] <sgh> phillw: thanks for the link, I'll search for a solution
[08:49] <phillw> sgh: he keeps the documentation really up to date, as fellow documenter I really appreciate the work he puts in to it and the fact he will always reply to people with problems on that thread.
[08:59] <sgh> phillw: I've just realized some odd behaviour. Chromium can't play any flash videos aswell
[08:59] <sgh> lubuntu-restricted extras is installed
[09:01] <phillw> sgh: I have both browsers and have no problem on either, so I'm unsure as to where your problem lies. maybe bioterror can help?
[09:02] <sgh> have you updated your system today or yesterday? my problem occured after updating yesterday
[09:03] <phillw> my advice in that case would be to log a post on to lovinglinux's thread, as it is possible that they have broken something.
[09:04] <phillw> but that would be the flash plugin, and affect all of the *buntu family.
[09:05] <sgh> okay
[09:05] <sgh> thanks for your help and advice :)
[09:07] <phillw> sgh: I'm just checking with a forum staffer to see if it is a general problem.
[09:08] <ubuXubu> u may not have installed .deb
[09:09] <ubuXubu> or in some cases the correct one to choose is 8.04 i have noticed
[09:09] <ubuXubu> maybe somehow the update altered that
[09:09] <phillw> sgh: "not that I know of - I've not got a flash update - or if I have I didn't notice either it or it causing issues"
[09:10] <ubuXubu> hmm
[09:11]  * phillw so there is no reports on the forum area of an issue, sgh log a post to lovinglinux's thread. 
[09:29] <sgh> after looking for the exact name of the component which was updated in synaptic I realized that it wasn't installed, quite odd because I watched some youtube videos yesterday (and Firefox 3.6 doesn't support html5 view)
[09:29] <sgh> well that problem is solved now, thank you
[09:30] <sgh> next time I'll look into the thread by lovinglinux first
[09:31] <phillw> sgh: good to hear, glad it sorted and glad to have been of help in pointing you in the right direction :)
[10:34] <bioterror> I would suggest to use Chromium
[11:07] <NativeAngels> hello
[11:31] <NativeAngels> can someone help me with the alternative version
[16:15] <manfredrasta> is there lubuntu 10.10 available?
[16:16] <SortiE> yes
[16:16] <SortiE> it is
[16:18] <manfredrasta> i have allready lubuntu 10.04
[16:18] <manfredrasta> how to upgrade?
[16:20] <SortiE> it should be available at update manager i think
[16:23] <SortiE> i did a fresh install so i am not sure of it..
[16:23] <phillw> SortiE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10?
[16:24] <phillw> Sorry for the delay I was on another support channel, they do keep us busy ;)
[16:24] <SortiE> i didnt asked manfredrasta did :)
[16:27] <phillw> manfredrasta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10?
[16:34] <manfredrasta> thanks
[16:44] <manfredrasta> where do i find update managar?
[16:46] <phillw> manfredrasta: it should be under preferences?
[16:47] <phillw> manfredrasta: else just start an lxterminal session and run the command.
[17:11] <pizux> hi
[17:12] <bioterror> howdy
[17:12] <pizux> hey i've just finished a script with zenity very usefull for link an icon shortcut on lxde desktop
[17:12] <pizux> is someone want to test it http://pastebin.com/CA80A2AX
[17:13] <kosaidpo1> hello peolpe
[17:14] <pizux> hello kosaidpo1
[17:15] <kosaidpo1> pizux:  : )
[17:15] <kosaidpo1> do you kno any way to foce the mahcine to use more swap ??
[17:20] <pizux> something like that ?sudo sysctl vm.swappiness
[17:21] <pizux> sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=100
[17:21] <pizux> default is 60
[17:22] <Kurdistan> sysctl vm.swappiness=100
[17:22] <szczur> ohh, didn't know that :)
[17:22] <szczur> thanks pizux
[17:22] <szczur> :)
[17:23] <pizux> add it to /etc/sysctl.conf
[17:25] <szczur> hmm, so lower number would force it to use ram in favor of swap, forcing background processes go there, am i right?
[17:25] <Kurdistan> pizux he dont need if use command that I posted, but this is how he can do. gksudo leafpad /etc/sysctl.conf
[17:26] <Kurdistan> then add this in the botton vm.swappiness = 100 and finally save it
[17:26] <Kurdistan> after reboot it will use 100 %
[17:26] <Kurdistan> cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness   <<<--- by this command you can know how much it is
[17:27] <bioterror> why you guy swant to play with swap?-)
[17:27] <szczur> just tinkering :P
[17:27] <pizux> because it don't have any ram maybe
[17:27] <szczur> :>>>
[17:28] <Kurdistan> pizux, you can make ram with help of gparted
[17:29] <Kurdistan> if you have lubuntu livecd
[17:29] <Kurdistan> use it
[17:29] <Kurdistan> install gparted and then make swap partition
[17:29] <Kurdistan> it is really easy
[17:29] <szczur> or make a swapfile
[17:30] <szczur> no need of paritioning
[17:30] <szczur> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[17:31] <Kurdistan> szcur :) your link is easy good for pizux. maybee my way is more difficult.
[17:31] <szczur> Kurdistan, your way is as good as mine :)
[17:31] <szczur> just doesn't need partitioning
[17:32] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[17:32] <kosaidpo> icant launch my compy on start up
[17:32] <kosaidpo> even i put a file .conky
[17:32] <kosaidpo> still not
[17:32] <bioterror> just installing conky to my wife's fresh lubuntu installation ;)
[17:33] <szczur> i think conky is probably runing, but pcmanfm is in front of it
[17:33] <szczur> there was a conky setting for lxde with pcmanfm, just forgot where it was
[17:33] <kosaidpo> bioterror: well the install  was cool now when i launch it it has that bar from where ican lose it nad stuff
[17:34] <kosaidpo> and icant get it tp launch durin the boot
[17:34] <Kurdistan> I think lubuntu 10.10 is a bit buggy compare to 10.04
[17:34] <kosaidpo> szczur: does it have problems with pcmanfm??
[17:35] <szczur> make sure that your conky rc have options mentioned in this post (last code)
[17:35] <szczur> i know it is in polish :)
[17:35] <Kurdistan> kasaidpo, write conky on run. you will see it if lxde menu does not show it.
[17:35] <szczur> http://debian.linux.pl/threads/10785-conky-pod-lxde
[17:35] <kosaidpo> szczur: okies
[17:35] <Kurdistan> or what was your problem?
[17:35] <szczur> or maybe i think this will be better > http://blog.lxde.org/?p=684
[17:36] <szczur> kosaidpo, and before you will do anything
[17:36] <Kurdistan> kasaidpo you want to autostart conky in lubuntu?
[17:36] <kosaidpo> szczur: yeah cus icant read : )
[17:36] <szczur> pleased make sure that it doesn't appear after executing it in terminal
[17:37] <Kurdistan> do like this: go to; 1./home/username/.config/autostart
[17:37] <szczur> please*
[17:37] <pizux> kosaidpo, perhaps you could try my zenity script for your wife ?
[17:37] <pizux> http://pastebin.com/CA80A2AX
[17:38] <Kurdistan> open new tab in pcmanfm and go to: /usr/share/applications
[17:38] <kosaidpo> szczur: okies got it right
[17:38] <Kurdistan> copy the conky icon and past it to 1./home/username/.config/autostart
[17:38] <kosaidpo> thanks
[17:38] <kosaidpo> but please what the function to make some margin
[17:46] <kosaidpo> goin to pay guys
[17:46] <kosaidpo> thanks
[17:47] <kosaidpo> ill brb
[20:47] <kosaidpo> how can i make the most use of swap as in use it more n let the ram be lil cool
[20:47] <head_victim> You don't really want to use swap I wouldn't have thought.
[20:48] <head_victim> Swap is much slower than ram.
[20:48] <kosaidpo> ahh yehh
[20:48] <kosaidpo> true
[20:48] <acydlord> swap is slower than ram and wears out your hdd
[20:48] <kosaidpo> cus its hdd
[20:48] <phillw> kosaidpo:   you can increase swappiness, but as head_victim says it will slow your system down.
[20:48] <kosaidpo> i read that somewhere
[20:50] <kosaidpo> okies guys thanks u jst makde me rember that fact
[20:50] <kosaidpo> btw how can i make conky use some cool pic to show the stats of the machine
[20:59] <acydlord> kosaidpo: i've got a conky that is basically the same is this one if you want it https://dl.dropbox.com/u/150051/dhs.jpg
[21:00] <head_victim> Mine's a bit boring http://www.flickr.com/photos/45015261@N04/5092405565/
[21:00] <kosaidpo> acydlord: thanks but ihave like this one
[21:01] <kosaidpo> guys ill showu mine is very simple
[21:07] <kosaidpo> here u go guys http://i53.tinypic.com/7160s4.png
[21:07] <kosaidpo> se mine its so basic
[21:07] <kosaidpo> head_victim: :S
[21:09] <acydlord> I keep everything minimalistic on mine, the only difference from the one I posted and now is that the current has epoch time and weather
[21:10] <kosaidpo> yeah but thees some fany sets so u kno
[21:10] <kosaidpo> somtimes ucan resit it
[21:10] <head_victim> I try to mirror mine across all the desktops and laptops I have so I can always just look to wherever I need to find stuff
[21:11] <acydlord> head_victim: same here, i have my ~/.config in my dropbox lol
[21:11] <head_victim> acydlord: yeah only bummer is different hardware has different sensor setups.
[21:12] <acydlord> head_victim: I actually have that coded in since conky supports booleans
[21:13] <head_victim> acydlord: fair enough, I decided I'd spent too much time on it already when I got it to the stage I'm at now ;)
[21:13] <head_victim> The only thing I really would like to add would probably be the external IP listing under network.
[21:13] <kosaidpo> head_victim:  im lookin in the post u gave me
[21:13] <kosaidpo> im llokin for sumthin ready :S
[21:14] <acydlord> head_victim: that is one i should add to my network section
[21:14] <head_victim> I've thought about making email and weather show up instead of the inbound and outbound connections but I still run gnome-weather on the main pc.
[21:14] <acydlord> should probably add my virtualbox ip as well so i dont have to dig for it
[21:15] <head_victim> I'm on a dynamic IP so it kinda makes it hard to remember. Also when using the wireless on the laptop I get different ones every time.
[21:15] <acydlord> ahh, i have a custom script i built on weather.com but i'm going to be switching it to wunderground soon
[21:16] <kosaidpo> guys nethin fancy here
[21:16] <head_victim> acydlord: do they require accounts?
[21:17] <acydlord> head_victim: they're built on api calls
[21:17] <acydlord> so nopes
[21:17] <acydlord> well they require my API key, and weather.com tends to be a bit greedy if too many people use that one
[21:17] <acydlord> part of why im switching to wunderground
[21:17] <head_victim> Ah k when I was looking into it they almost all seemed to call for api calls to sites you had to have accounts for and I just decided it wasn't worth the effort.
[21:19] <acydlord> cool part about having a premium account on wunderground is that you can develop with your key so users dont need an account
[21:20] <kosaidpo> guys im lookin fro sumthin fancy
[21:20] <kosaidpo> please any links
[21:22] <head_victim> kosaidpo: http://conkyhardcore.com/
[21:23] <kosaidpo> head_victim: thanks
[21:23] <acydlord> kosaidpo: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/conky also in their forums are many good conkyrc files with screenshots
[21:27] <szczur> http://szczur.ath.cx/sshots/screen4.png < this is mine
[21:28] <szczur> pretty minimal
[21:29] <head_victim> I still use the default desktop on the basis I never actually see my desktop, there's always stuff open
[21:30] <acydlord> i usually change mine up since i run practically everything except mail and browser in tilda terminals
[21:31] <head_victim> Currently on the pc over <- way I have me-tv running and this one has xchat, 2 text files and a terminal open.
[21:31] <kosaidpo> szczur: yeh nice how can i get like those pics of the car speed thingy
[21:33] <szczur> kosaidpo, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=722041#p722041
[21:33] <kosaidpo> szczur: thanks
[21:33] <bioterror> szczur, you need faster upload ;)
[21:34] <szczur> bioterror, i'm downloading drivers for my sister
[21:34] <szczur> but yeah, my connection sucks :)
[21:58] <kosaidpo> guys when i rebooted my conky appeared then disapeared i read abit this earlier but icant find it now
[21:58] <kosaidpo> any idea guys how to fix it
[21:58] <bioterror> :D
[22:04] <kosaidpo> cant find it :(
[22:04] <kosaidpo> any idea guys
[22:05] <bioterror> what you cant find
[22:05] <bioterror> own_window yes
[22:05] <kosaidpo> earlier today i read the fix of this issue
[22:05] <kosaidpo> but now icant find it
[22:06] <bioterror> own_window_type normal
[22:06] <bioterror> double_buffer yes
[22:06] <kosaidpo> bioterror: got those
[22:07] <kosaidpo>  guess i shud let conky sleep for some scd right
[22:07] <kosaidpo> but idk hwp to put in the .desktop file
[22:07] <head_victim> own_window_class Conky
[22:07] <head_victim> own_window_type root
[22:07] <head_victim> That solved my issue with it dissapearing on me
[22:08] <kosaidpo> head_victim: okies ill try it
[22:09]  * kosaidpo rebootin
[22:37] <kosaidpo> head_victim: that tric didnt work
[22:37] <kosaidpo> when i open up my browser
[22:37] <kosaidpo> conky gone
[22:39] <bioterror> tweak own_window_type
[22:40] <kosaidpo> i have it as widget
[22:40] <kosaidpo> wht shud i put
[22:40] <bioterror> well
[22:40] <bioterror> I have normal
[22:40] <bioterror> and works great
[22:41] <head_victim> I like it on my desktop
[22:41] <kosaidpo> well iliked this one i found ut still not workin corretly
[22:41] <kosaidpo> tho but iwud prefer to get one with images
[22:41] <kosaidpo> u kno those thingies that indicate speed's car
[22:42] <bioterror> you want lua or what ever those are
[22:42] <kosaidpo> uhn sorry idk whats lua ?
[22:43] <kosaidpo> i only rember la its song for bright eyes : )
[22:43] <kosaidpo> but i dont listen to lusic anymore
[22:43] <kosaidpo> thanks god
[22:43] <kosaidpo> bioterror:link  meplease
[22:48] <bioterror> http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=Category:Lua
[22:49] <kosaidpo> i found this http://sen7.deviantart.com/art/Conky-NightDrive-151418309
[22:49] <kosaidpo> bioterror: thanks
[22:50] <kosaidpo> a lot today : )