[00:06] <thetick> I don't have any sound effects with gcompris, but the music does play in background.  I have the gcompris-sound-en package and local="en" in my gcompris.conf.  Any ideas what I need to do to get the sound effects working ..ie the melodies for the sound games
[00:36] <thetick> Any one here use gcompris? or is better to ask on Edubuntu eventhough I'm using Ubuntu lucid
[00:44] <UbuntuNoob> anyone here?
[00:45] <thetick> Got my answer at Edubuntu.. later
[00:46] <UbuntuNoob> anyone here?  i got a question
[00:46] <aveilleux> !ask | UbuntuNoob
[00:46] <ubot2> UbuntuNoob: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:46] <UbuntuNoob> lol okay um
[00:47] <UbuntuNoob> lets say i copy a game folder into the hard disk running ubuntu.  i've seen a lot of command lines but if i wanted to run the exe file from the game folder would i need to use a command?  or could i just go into my computer and click on the exe file?
[00:48] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Ubuntu can't natively run *.exe files
[00:49] <UbuntuNoob> what does that mean?  i can't click on the exe file to run the program?
[00:49] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Ubuntu can't run Windows programs.
[00:50] <UbuntuNoob> i see
[00:50] <UbuntuNoob> what if
[00:50] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: That's somewhat oversimplified; there's a compatibility layer called WINE that can run some Windows programs
[00:50] <UbuntuNoob> yea i had a chat with someone and they introduced WINE to me
[00:51] <UbuntuNoob> but what if i created a partition which had ubuntu installed on it and dual booted that partition.  could i just go into the other partition from my computer and run it from there?  or does the rule still apply where ubuntu can't run exe files natively?
[00:52] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Dual-booting doesn't change the fact that Ubuntu isn't Windows, and can't run Windows programs as a result of that.
[00:53] <UbuntuNoob> i see so if i used WINE i could run some windows programs from the partition with windows 7 installed on it while running off of the partition with ubuntu right?
[00:54] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: It's a little more complicated than that, but yes, I guess you could look at it that way.
[00:54] <UbuntuNoob> i see thanks :) clarified alot of things for me
[02:26] <nit-wit> check
[02:26] <aveilleux> and mate
[02:27] <_spacer_> hi
[02:27] <_spacer_> im having some troubles installing drivers
[02:28] <_spacer_> installing from a tar.bz2 file
[02:28] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Linux doesn't use "drivers" in the conventional sense... can you link me to where you got them?
[02:29] <_spacer_> sure
[02:30] <_spacer_> www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/files
[02:31] <_spacer_> thats it
[02:31] <_spacer_> im trying to set up a logitech webcam
[02:32] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Have you extracted the files from the archive yet?
[02:33] <_spacer_>  i think so, i tried to follow the instrutions at the bottom of the page there, but no luck
[02:34] <aveilleux> _spacer_: I see no instructions on this page. Just create a folder on your desktop called "pwc" and double-click on the archive, then select all the files and drag them into the "pwc" folder.
[02:34] <_spacer_> then what, is that it?
[02:35] <aveilleux> _spacer_: No. Tell me when you're done with that.
[02:35] <_spacer_> k
[02:37] <_spacer_> ok done
[02:37] <_spacer_> both archives?
[02:37] <aveilleux> _spacer_: ....both?
[02:38] <_spacer_> i have a pwc-... and a libpwc
[02:38] <_spacer_> sorry really lost now
[02:38] <aveilleux> _spacer_: You don't need libpwc
[02:38] <_spacer_> ok thats good
[02:39] <_spacer_> then im done
[02:39] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Now open Terminal and enter "cd ~/Desktop/pwc" without the quotes, caps is important.
[02:40] <_spacer_> k
[02:41] <_spacer_> done
[02:41] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Okay, now run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[02:42] <_spacer_> done
[02:43] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Now run "make"
[02:44] <_spacer_> error
[02:44] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Pasebin the error
[02:44] <_spacer_> can i paste it here
[02:44] <_spacer_> Pasebin?
[02:44] <aveilleux> _spacer_: If it's one line, yes. If it's more than one line, use Pastebin.
[02:44] <aveilleux> !pastebin | _spacer_
[02:44] <ubot2> _spacer_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[02:45] <_spacer_> ok
[02:46] <_spacer_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/526732/
[02:47] <_spacer_> thats a really good idea
[02:47] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Which file did you download?
[02:48] <_spacer_> pwc-10.0.11.tar.bz2
[02:49] <_spacer_> and the lib. maybe i did the wrong file?
[02:50] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Woah, wait a second, you're logged in as root?
[02:50] <_spacer_> yup
[02:50] <_spacer_> thats not good
[02:50] <_spacer_> ?
[02:50] <aveilleux> _spacer_: ...graphically? As toor?
[02:50] <aveilleux> root*
[02:51] <_spacer_> just in cli... i think
[02:51] <_spacer_> im not sure really, my newbie shines through
[02:52] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Nnnno, if it's *your* desktop, and you used the command "cd ~/Desktop" as root, and it went to the right folder, then you're logged in graphically as root
[02:52] <aveilleux> _spacer_: You're using Ubuntu, correct?
[02:52] <_spacer_> yup
[02:52] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Where/who told you to enable root? Because root is disabled by default.
[02:53] <_spacer_> yeah, uh on another page i was following and then gave up
[02:53] <_spacer_> i didn't get very far with that either
[02:54] <aveilleux> _spacer_: I would highly recommend logging in as your standard user. That way you don't get conflicts with sudo.
[02:55] <_spacer_> ok np, whats the easiest way to loose that root in the term/
[02:56] <aveilleux> _spacer_: The easiest way to disable the root account is to type "sudo visudo" in Terminal, finding the line for Root, removing its password hash and replacing it with a bang (!). That will disable the root account's password, and *NIX systems do not allow accounts without passwords to be logged in to.
[02:57] <_spacer_> ok im good here
[02:59] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Are you logged in graphically as a normal user?
[02:59] <_spacer_> yes
[02:59] <_spacer_> admin
[02:59] <_spacer_> if thats what you mean
[03:00] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Okay, download the bz2 archive again, and extract it into a folder "pwc" on your desktop again
[03:00] <_spacer_> ok
[03:01] <UbuntuNoob> if i wanted to customize my desktop would i have to use commands? or is there an easy GUI to change the desktop?
[03:01] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Your desktop.... background?
[03:02] <UbuntuNoob> yea when i'm using the ubuntu OS
[03:02] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Just right-click on the Desktop and hit "Change Desktop Background..."
[03:02] <UbuntuNoob> oh cause i'm at class right now and i think the download finished at home.. i haven't tried it just asking in advance thanks :)
[03:03] <_spacer_> ok so i have a folder on my Dtop, inside that dolder is another folder pwc
[03:04] <_spacer_> am i good?
[03:05] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Okay, now open the Terminal and type "whoami" and paste the output here
[03:06] <_spacer_> spacer
[03:06] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Okay. Now type "cd ~/Desktop"
[03:06] <aveilleux> Er.
[03:06] <aveilleux> cd ~/Desktop/pwc
[03:06] <Cheri703> it took me a second on that aveilleux...I read it as "WHOA mi!" instead of "who am I"
[03:06]  * Cheri703 is tired
[03:07] <aveilleux> Cheri703: hah
[03:08] <_spacer_> ther
[03:08] <_spacer_> e
[03:09] <aveilleux> _spacer_: now type make
[03:09] <_spacer_>  make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:10] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Paste the output of pwd
[03:11] <_spacer_> "/home/spacer/Desktop/pwc"
[03:11] <aveilleux> _spacer_: pastebin the output of ls
[03:12] <_spacer_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/526744/
[03:13] <aveilleux> _spacer_: No, not "pwd", "ls"
[03:13] <_spacer_> that is from ls
[03:14] <_spacer_> oh hoang on
[03:14] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Then you didn't extract the archive into the pwc folder
[03:14] <_spacer_> sorry
[03:14] <_spacer_> i screwed that up
[03:14] <_spacer_> its one line may i post here
[03:15] <aveilleux> _spacer_: yes
[03:15] <_spacer_> pwc-10.0.12-rc1
[03:15] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Okay, cd pwc-10.0.12-rc1
[03:16] <_spacer_> ok there
[03:16] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Now run make
[03:18] <_spacer_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/526747/
[03:18] <_spacer_> same error i believe
[03:21] <aveilleux> _spacer_: I don't know if this'll help, but try running sudo make
[03:21] <_spacer_> yup same thing
[03:22] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Hm, I don't know what to tell you then, it seems like a bug in the code to me
[03:22] <_spacer_> ok thanks all the same
[03:24] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Try installing the libs... create a folder on your desktop called "pwc-libs", download the pwclibs code and extract it to that folder, then "cd ~/Desktop/pwc-libs/" and run make
[03:24] <_spacer_> ok lets have a go
[03:28] <_spacer_> silly question here, when i extracted the archive into the folder on my desktop
[03:29] <_spacer_> it makes a folder there lobpwc-xxxx, should i be in there when i m ake
[03:29] <_spacer_> make
[03:29] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Yes, I'm sorry for not realizing that
[03:30] <_spacer_> same for the other archive
[03:30] <_spacer_> no no dont be sorry, im glad for your help
[03:34] <_spacer_> make worked for libs
[03:37] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Now run sudo make install
[03:37] <_spacer_> for the libs
[03:38] <_spacer_> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:39] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Wha..? Let me grab a copy of the archive and look at that
[03:39] <_spacer_> ok
[03:40] <aveilleux> _spacer_: You downloaded libpwc-20060524.tar.bz2 right?
[03:40] <_spacer_> libpwc-20060524..yuo
[03:40] <_spacer_> yup
[03:41] <aveilleux> _spacer_: Try running sudo make static
[03:43] <_spacer_> sorry
[03:43] <_spacer_> sudo make static?
[03:44] <aveilleux> _spacer_: yes
[03:45] <_spacer_> sudo make static
[03:45] <_spacer_> make: Nothing to be done for `static'
[03:46] <aveilleux> weird...
[03:47] <_spacer_> i dont know why i didn't think of this earlier but have a look at this, it may help you help me
[03:47] <_spacer_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/526765/
[03:47] <_spacer_> i gotta brb,
[03:48] <_spacer_> 10 min top
[03:48] <_spacer_> sorry
[03:54] <_spacer_> ok back
[04:00] <_spacer_> ok thanks for your help
[04:01] <aveilleux> Buh?
[04:02] <UbuntuNoob> So... I created a partition to specifically install unbuntu on it
[04:02] <UbuntuNoob> And now I reboot my computer and boot from cd enter the setup for Ubuntu
[04:02] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: What did you use to create the partition?
[04:03] <UbuntuNoob> I select that I want to specify partitions manually
[04:03] <UbuntuNoob> oh i just went to manage computer
[04:03] <UbuntuNoob> then allocated space and created the simple volume
[04:03] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Arrgh, noooo, Windows does bad things to the hard drive when you let it run amok
[04:03] <UbuntuNoob> oh so i can't do that?
[04:04] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: You *can* do it, it's just more complicated if you don't
[04:04] <UbuntuNoob> wait so it's bad to create a partition with windows?
[04:04] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: It's much easier to just leave the partitions alone and let the Ubuntu installer automatically handle the partitions (you get to choose how much space it takes up)
[04:05] <UbuntuNoob> oh so i should just delete the partition?
[04:05] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Undo the change, delete the partition you made and re-allocate the space back to C:\ and run the Ubuntu installer, then have it automatically make partitions
[04:06] <UbuntuNoob> wait by let it auto make the partition will it ask me how much i want to allocate for that partition?
[04:07] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: It should
[04:07] <UbuntuNoob> okay thanks i'll try that right now :)
[04:07] <UbuntuNoob> give me a minute
[04:08] <UbuntuNoob> oh and does ubuntu load hella fast like linux does?
[04:08] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Um... Ubuntu is Linux.
[04:08] <UbuntuNoob> yea i know but the distribution of linux doesn't mean it's faster
[04:08] <UbuntuNoob> could mean that it's slower
[04:09] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: "Linux" refers to the kernel. Ubuntu uses the Linux kernel.
[04:09] <UbuntuNoob> oh my computer isn't loading
[04:09] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: "Ubuntu" is a brand of GNU/Linux, which is the entire operating system.
[04:09] <UbuntuNoob> is that bad?
[04:09] <aveilleux> ....generally
[04:09] <stlsaint> lol
[04:09] <UbuntuNoob> this doesn't look too pleasant
[04:10] <UbuntuNoob> is ubuntu the best distribution of linux so far?
[04:11] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Well that depends on how you define "best". I'd be willing to say that it's probably the most usable and newb-friendly.
[04:11] <UbuntuNoob> well the partition crap is being difficult with me right now lol
[04:11] <UbuntuNoob> i thought i could just assign a partition for ubuntu to install on
[04:12] <UbuntuNoob> doesn't look like that's the case though
[04:12] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: I currently run Fedora, which is a step away from that in terms of how much is done for the user and how much the user is expected to know and do
[04:12] <UbuntuNoob> i would probably fail
[04:12] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: You *can* do that, but Windows doesn't like other OSs messing with its partitions.
[04:12] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: are you manually setting parititons or letting ubiquity do it?
[04:12] <UbuntuNoob> manually
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> there are 3 options
[04:13] <aveilleux> stlsaint: UbuntuNoob used the Windows partition manager to set up the partition
[04:13] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: have you already have emtpy unallocated space?
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> side by sides
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> manually
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> and something else
[04:13] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: have you already have emtpy unallocated space?
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> yea i have empty unallocated space right now
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> i can't load my original OS right now
[04:13] <UbuntuNoob> so i'm trying to do something with the OS installer for ubuntu
[04:13] <stlsaint> alright so why are you going for a manual partition? unless you just want to learn, you need to set a swap and root partition at minimal
[04:14] <stlsaint> wait...huh?
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> i dont know
[04:14] <stlsaint> you cant load windows? have you installed ubuntu yet?
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> i can't install it
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> it's not letting me
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> :(
[04:14] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: whats the error?
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> wait for it...
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> oh
[04:14] <UbuntuNoob> "no root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[04:15] <stlsaint> yep, you need to set a root
[04:15] <UbuntuNoob> how do you do that?
[04:15] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: click on the partition and hit either change or edit
[04:15] <UbuntuNoob> okay
[04:15] <UbuntuNoob> window pops up saying edit a partition
[04:16] <UbuntuNoob> use as.....
[04:16] <UbuntuNoob> i dont see a root choice though
[04:16] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: have you already created a swap partition?
[04:16] <UbuntuNoob> nope
[04:16] <stlsaint> root = this symbol (/)
[04:16] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: alright we will set a swap first
[04:16] <UbuntuNoob> okay
[04:16] <UbuntuNoob> should i change the partition size?
[04:16] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: change the size of the free space to only use 2gb=2048
[04:17] <UbuntuNoob> okay
[04:17] <stlsaint> you should have the rest of the free space after making swap
[04:17] <UbuntuNoob> so
[04:17] <UbuntuNoob> new partition size in mb = 2048?
[04:17] <UbuntuNoob> and use as swap area?
[04:17] <stlsaint> yep yep
[04:17] <UbuntuNoob> hit next continue?
[04:17] <UbuntuNoob> and wahtever's after that?
[04:17] <stlsaint> what ever is left over use as root (/)
[04:18] <UbuntuNoob> how should i define it as a root partition?
[04:18] <stlsaint> same way you set swap
[04:18] <stlsaint> must select the: "use as" option
[04:19] <UbuntuNoob> creating a swap partition takes a long time
[04:19] <stlsaint> it shouldnt
[04:19] <UbuntuNoob> o.o
[04:19] <stlsaint> how much free space are you giving to ubuntu?
[04:19] <UbuntuNoob> 100gb
[04:20] <UbuntuNoob> for some reason the type is fat32
[04:20] <UbuntuNoob> is that usual?
[04:20] <UbuntuNoob> cause the original one is ntfs
[04:20] <stlsaint> alright so you should have created a small partition out of that 100gb of 2gb
[04:20] <UbuntuNoob> it's still creating
[04:20] <stlsaint> so you should have 98 or 97.x leftover used for root
[04:20] <stlsaint> are you in the linux installer?
[04:20] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[04:21] <UbuntuNoob> that's strange
[04:22] <stlsaint> whats happening??
[04:22] <UbuntuNoob> it's just working
[04:22] <UbuntuNoob> i dont know if i should quit and try again or not
[04:23] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: let it finish then do the same process to set the leftover 98 to use ext4/root
[04:23] <UbuntuNoob> shoudl i hit quit and try again?
[04:23] <UbuntuNoob> cause it's still working...
[04:25] <UbuntuNoob> i mean it's okay cause i backed my computer up before i tried this and if everything does decide to go down hill then i can just use the back up
[04:25] <stlsaint> if you want to quit is up to you, i suggest just letting it finish, you should be able to see the details in the dropdown box in the window
[04:26] <UbuntuNoob> hehe i quit looks like i'm running ubuntu without installing it
[04:26] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: you can try rebooting into livecd and letting ubuntu install itself into the largest free space automatically
[04:27] <UbuntuNoob> hmm
[04:27] <UbuntuNoob> is there any way to fix the partitions using ubuntu?
[04:28] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: The LiveCD has a program called GParted, you can edit partitions using that
[04:28] <UbuntuNoob> where do i go to get there?
[04:29] <UbuntuNoob> or wait let me try installing it again by running it off the desktop
[04:29] <UbuntuNoob> so swap then root
[04:30] <UbuntuNoob> so i'm creating a swap partition of size 2048 MB
[04:30] <stlsaint> yea
[04:30] <UbuntuNoob> but it says that the whole partition is type swap already
[04:30] <stlsaint> i knew something was up when you said it was taking a long time
[04:31] <UbuntuNoob> ?
[04:31] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: are you in gparted?
[04:31] <UbuntuNoob> no i'm just running the install thing from the desktop
[04:31] <stlsaint> aveilleux: yo, what language did you say you like programming in?
[04:31] <aveilleux> C
[04:32] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: are you able to delete that 100gb
[04:32] <stlsaint> aveilleux: oh ok
[04:32] <UbuntuNoob> i will try that
[04:33] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Why?
[04:33] <UbuntuNoob> okay
[04:33] <UbuntuNoob> it's free space now
[04:33] <stlsaint> aveilleux: why what?
[04:33] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Why did you want to know?
[04:33] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: alright now, click the partition and hit change/edit
[04:33] <UbuntuNoob> only lets me add
[04:34] <stlsaint> alright well hit add
[04:34] <UbuntuNoob> okay
[04:34] <UbuntuNoob> wait do i still need a swap partition now?
[04:35] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: yes
[04:36] <UbuntuNoob> should i make that partition logical?
[04:36] <UbuntuNoob> and have the location be end?
[04:36] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: logical and i would put at beginning
[04:36] <UbuntuNoob> what does location mean anyway?
[04:36] <UbuntuNoob> just the beginning of that free space right?
[04:37] <stlsaint> yes
[04:37] <UbuntuNoob> not like the beginning of my original partition?
[04:37] <UbuntuNoob> woot it worked
[04:37] <UbuntuNoob> :D
[04:37] <UbuntuNoob> now add ext4 journaling file system as primary partition at end?
[04:37] <stlsaint> alright now the rest make into root
[04:38] <UbuntuNoob> is it ext4 journaling file system
[04:38] <UbuntuNoob> ?
[04:38] <stlsaint> yea
[04:38] <UbuntuNoob> okay
[04:38] <UbuntuNoob> it works!
[04:38] <stlsaint> alright now hit next
[04:38] <UbuntuNoob> isntall now?
[04:39] <stlsaint> the rest is all up to you now
[04:39] <UbuntuNoob> wait
[04:39] <UbuntuNoob> when i hit install now it says no root file system is defined o.o
[04:39] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: you did not set the 98 gb partition as root
[04:40] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: go back and edit the partition except dont change anything except the "use as" option
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> oh i see
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> it's
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> mount as
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> i didn't add the /
[04:40] <stlsaint> aye, sorry, mount
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> to that part
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> ahaha it's okay :)
[04:40] <UbuntuNoob> woot thank you so much!
[04:41] <stlsaint> no prob
[04:41] <UbuntuNoob> afk i want to shower
[04:42] <UbuntuNoob> then hopefully it'd be done by then :)
[04:42] <UbuntuNoob> thank you again!
[04:42] <stlsaint> glad to help spread ubuntu :D
[05:05] <UbuntuNoob> why can't i go forward in the installation? o.o
[05:08] <zkriesse> UbuntuNoob: ?
[05:09] <UbuntuNoob> so i selected a time zone selected a keyboard
[05:10] <zkriesse> ok
[05:10] <UbuntuNoob> typed in name computer name username password
[05:10] <UbuntuNoob> but i can't click forward
[05:10] <zkriesse> Did you enter the password twice to confirm it?
[05:10] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[05:10] <zkriesse> Make sure it's correct
[05:10] <UbuntuNoob> there's a check
[05:10] <UbuntuNoob> for confirming
[05:11] <zkriesse> And it's confirmed as same both times?
[05:11] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[05:11] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: Does your username contain spaces or a capital letter?
[05:11] <UbuntuNoob> wait when i clicked on the "getting the time from a network time server" it says mcp power or thermal limit exceeded
[05:11] <UbuntuNoob> username is just 1 word
[05:12] <UbuntuNoob> oh nvm
[05:12] <UbuntuNoob> i see
[05:12] <UbuntuNoob> wtf
[05:12] <UbuntuNoob> no capital letters?
[05:12] <UbuntuNoob> and am i suppsoed to be alarmed by the thermal limit exceeded message?
[05:12] <Cheri703> real name can have capitals, username lowercase
[05:13] <UbuntuNoob> that's a drag :(
[05:15] <aveilleux> UbuntuNoob: The "username" is Ubuntu's internal name. The "real name" is what is displayed when you log in.
[05:16] <UbuntuNoob> oh i see
[05:16] <UbuntuNoob> i thought the username was the name you see at login
[05:58] <kaushal> hi
[05:58] <kaushal> can some one please guide me about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-November/004806.html ?
[06:10] <_spacer_> hey thought i'd pop back in.
[06:10] <_spacer_> for what ever reason
[06:11] <_spacer_> my cam started working, and very well i might add
[06:11] <_spacer_> what ever the heck, worked
[06:12] <zkriesse> kewl
[06:13] <_spacer_> this is the second time ive been here and i wanted to say thanx for the help
[06:15] <kaushal> checking in again for the query ?
[06:19] <_spacer_> lovin this nix business, gotta hand it to you.  i have one more question.
[06:20] <phillw> !topic | _spacer_
[06:20] <ubot2> _spacer_: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[06:20] <phillw> _spacer_: never ask permission to ask a question :)
[06:20] <_spacer_> whats the best resource to understand the philosophy and the flow of this system
[06:20] <Cheri703> philosophy and flow how?
[06:20] <Cheri703> elaborate
[06:22] <_spacer_> when i moved from cad to solids there was a great text that i read that explained the new system from the point of view of the old one
[06:22] <Cheri703> a good starter reference is www.ubuntupocketguide.com (don't be thrown off because it's for an older version) it has good info on getting to know the basics (I told someone about it recently, if it was you, sorry :) )
[06:22] <phillw> _spacer_: read about the african guy for our ethos. http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/
[06:22] <_spacer_> like many im jumpin off from a dos based system
[06:24] <phillw> _spacer_: also http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3 may be of help, it has some good links in for people who are new to the family.
[06:24] <kaushal> Can someone please guide me ?
[06:27] <_spacer_> gonna  look at those links, thx.
[06:29] <aveilleux> So my roommate's wasted
[07:03] <kaushal> Anybody around here ?
[07:06] <Mohan_chml> !ask | kaushal
[07:06] <ubot2> kaushal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:08] <kaushal> Mohan_chml: can some one please guide me about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-November/004806.html ?
[07:09] <Mohan_chml> kaushal, I think the user name should be root
[07:10] <Mohan_chml> phillw, MySQL ^^
[07:10] <kaushal> ?
[07:10] <Mohan_chml> kaushal, User "nagios"
[07:10] <Mohan_chml> I think you should use as root
[07:10] <kaushal> Mohan_chml: i cannot use root
[07:11] <kaushal> since root is not being used in configuring collectd
[07:11] <kaushal> and its not a good pratice too
[07:11] <phillw> kaushal: how did you install mysql?
[07:12] <kaushal> mysql ?
[07:12] <kaushal> Are you talking about mysql client or server ?
[07:13] <kaushal> phillw: not sure i understand you
[07:13] <phillw> kaushal: you tell me which you have installed
[07:14] <kaushal> mysql server version ?
[07:15] <phillw> kaushal: so, if you have server edition do you need to recover the master password?
[07:19] <Mohan_chml> kaushal, as the access is denied for the root at localhost, It is the permission issue which you have to grant
[07:20] <phillw> hobgoblin: good morning :)
[07:20] <hobgoblin> morning
[07:20] <Mohan_chml> Hola hobgoblin o/
[07:21] <hobgoblin> o/
[07:21] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin, how is life? Woke up too early today?
[07:24] <kaushal> Mohan_chml: Please try to re read it again
[07:24] <kaushal> I have cleared explained it there
[07:25] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: yep :(
[07:26] <Mohan_chml> kaushal, I have no much clue. But move with phillw and he can help you
[07:26] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin, don't worry. you can sleep in an hour again :)
[07:26] <kaushal> sure
[07:27] <kaushal> phillw: please suggest further
[07:28] <karthick87> hobgoblin hi
[07:28] <hobgoblin> karthick87: hi
[07:29] <karthick87> hobgoblin how are you?
[07:30] <phillw> kaushal: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html will reset your root password, you can only do that on your own computer, not a remote server.
[07:30] <hobgoblin> karthick87: tired - hungry - not had enough ine yet - you have mail on the forum
[07:31] <karthick87> hobgoblin wait a min will check it now
[07:33] <kaushal> phillw: am i clear with you ?
[07:36] <phillw> kaushal: obviously not.
[07:40] <kaushal> please give me a moment
[07:57] <kaushal> phillw: when i try to connect using mysql client, it works fine
[07:57] <kaushal> with the same credentials
[07:57] <kaushal> but when i use the same credentials in collectd, It does not work
[07:57] <kaushal> Hope it explains now
[07:59] <karthick87> hobgoblin can you check your mail now?
[08:00] <phillw> kaushal: i don't use collectd, I use phpmyadmin or the command line; I'm sorry that I cannot help you on your problem. You can always ask on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339 they may have someone familiar with it.
[08:03] <hobgoblin> karthick87: you'll have to wait for it to be approved I think
[08:03] <karthick87> Oke :)
[08:04] <hobgoblin> you can talk to people about joining the team in #ubuntu-beginners-team which is the 'team' channel :)
[08:08] <karthick87> hobgoblin, thanks for taking me here :) am learning new things daily :)
[08:08] <hobgoblin> welcome - the idea being to pitch in and help others with your new found education :)
[08:09] <kaushal> phillw: ok
[08:10] <kaushal> phillw: Thanks for your help
[08:11] <karthick87> hobgoblin, sure :)
[08:12] <kaushal> phillw: Do you want me to open a new thread here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339 ?
[08:12] <kaushal> for my issue
[08:15] <phillw> kaushal: register onto the forum, and post it on there, when you go to post it you have an option to receive an instant email back at the bottom
[08:16] <hobgoblin> karthick87: just a fyi - I get many fairly unreadable PMs on the forum so don't read them regularly
[08:17] <karthick87> hobgoblin: so how do i contact you?
[08:17] <hobgoblin> karthick87: you're more likely to get a response here if I am about
[08:18] <karthick87> Oke
[08:28] <kaushal> phillw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10079221#post10079221
[08:29] <phillw> kaushal: spot on :)
[08:30] <phillw> kaushal: well except you're supposed to use the code tags when you post terminal output.
[08:31] <kaushal> sure
[08:32] <phillw> hobgoblin: can you put the code tags on for kaushal?
[08:38] <hobgoblin> done
[08:39] <hobgoblin> kaushal: on the forum you can use BBCode - please do so :) http://ubuntuforums.org/misc.php?do=bbcode
[08:45] <kaushal> hobgoblin: not sure i understand that
[08:46] <kaushal> can you please help me here ?
[08:47] <hobgoblin> kaushal: if I could help I would have already :)
[08:49] <kaushal> ok
[08:55] <kaushal> hobgoblin: Do i need to edit it ?
[08:56] <hobgoblin> edit what? if you mean your post on the forum I already did it
[08:56] <kaushal> oh i see
[08:56] <kaushal> Thanks hobgoblin
[08:57] <hobgoblin> welcome :) sorry I can;t help with the issue though
[09:00] <kaushal> :)
[09:01] <hobgoblin> I would assume though that mysql was working ok before you started - I would expect you to get asked stuff like that on the forum - so if you have further information you can add to the post I would edit it and do so now
[09:09] <kaushal> sure
[09:20] <apollothethird> Can someone tell me how to start X without an Windows Manager so that I can run the Windows Manager from a remote machine?
[09:43] <apollothethird> If anyone was looking at my question and wondering, I was still testing and found out that you can just type "X" in a terminal window.  Then go to another terminal window, set the display, login to the remote machine, then run the session.
[09:49] <benpowers23> i am switching from running ubuntu in windows to installing alongside windows i have done everything to prepare for this, but now that im booted on the disk i only have two options erase whole disk and manual
[09:50] <benpowers23> there is no option to resize partitions
[09:50] <apollothethird> Look for an unused partition to install the ubuntu.
[09:51] <benpowers23> there are no unused partitons, there is the main partition and the recovery partition
[09:52] <apollothethird> Install an addition drive.
[09:52] <apollothethird> Very large drives can be purchased for under $30.
[09:53] <benpowers23> i have a hp dv7 laptop with a 320 gb hd in it
[09:53] <benpowers23> is that not plenty large enough?
[09:53] <benpowers23> i use a 1tb  external for data
[09:54] <apollothethird> You might consider backing up your Windows installation, repartitioning it so that you can have a partition for ubuntu then restore your windows 7, then install the ubuntu.
[09:55] <apollothethird> You can also install ubuntu on a USB drive.  I purchased a 16 gig pen drive for that reason and it works great.  I take my ubuntu installation wherever I go.
[09:55] <benpowers23> so your suggesting a complete reformat and then a recovery on the windows?
[09:56] <benpowers23> and leaving a  place for ubuntu?
[09:56] <apollothethird> From your initial message and descriptions in your followup, that's the only way to have ubuntu coexist on your internal hard drive.
[09:56] <benpowers23> why do i not have the option to resize my partitions?
[09:57] <apollothethird> Again, the other alternative is to install ubuntu on a pen drive.  I find the pen drive to work sufficient.
[09:57] <apollothethird> You will need a partition for the ubuntu.  At present you don't have a partition.  The only way you can have more than one partition is to resize the big one into more than one.
[09:57] <benpowers23> ok
[09:58] <benpowers23> it doesnt give me the option to resize the large partition, that is what i want to do
[10:00] <apollothethird> You'd have to use a separate program to do the partitioning.  Either use the Windows installation disk for the partitioning or a program such as "gparted live cd"
[10:01] <benpowers23> ok thank you
[10:02] <apollothethird> You're very welcome.
[10:34] <angelo> Hi!
[10:34] <angelo> I would like to help in ubuntu community
[10:35] <angelo> what could i do?
[10:37] <angelo> hello?
[10:40] <benpowers23> hello
[10:48] <benpowers23> bioterror, are you available?
[10:49] <benpowers23> i need help partition my hd
[10:49] <benpowers23> partitioning*
[10:49] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: if no-one else is about - I'll be happy to do so in 5 or 10 minutes
[10:50] <benpowers23> ok thank you
[10:50] <hobgoblin> in the meantime - set out what it is you actually want to achieve - anyone will need that before they can help :)
[10:53] <benpowers23> i am currently running ubuntu off the boot dvd, and i wanted to resize the main partition of my hard drive to split between windows and ubuntu, but the option that the installation web page shows is not available
[10:53] <benpowers23> there is only format and use the whole drive, or manual
[10:55] <benpowers23> i have thought on the subject for a while and decided a clean copy of windows might not be a terrible thing, i have al my personal data backed up and am ready to take action, i just am having some confidence issues.
[10:56] <benpowers23> i am at work in the middle of the ohio river and i wont be able to get off for 3 weeks so if this goes south i am stuck until i get home
[10:56] <hobgoblin> ok - looks like there are not other takers so you're stuck with me :)
[10:57] <benpowers23> that is fine thank you
[10:57] <benpowers23> i want to use windows and ubuntu and hopefully share data between them
[10:58] <benpowers23> that is my ultimate goal
[10:58] <hobgoblin> ok - can I assume that this is the first time you've tried a linux OS?
[10:58] <hobgoblin> and are you in the livecd now?
[10:58] <benpowers23> yes
[10:59] <benpowers23> i did install in windows previously
[10:59] <benpowers23> but removed it to make space
[10:59] <benpowers23> to give it its own partition
[11:00] <hobgoblin> ok - assuming you are in the livecd - go to Apps - Accessories - run the terminal and paste in this command    sudo fdisk -l
[11:00] <hobgoblin> once you have the output - go to paste.ubuntu.com - copy it there - put a name in the name box - hit the paste button - you will get a new url - give me that
[11:01] <benpowers23> it wont let me launch terminal
[11:01] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: ^^ that will let me see what you have in the way of partitions now
[11:01] <hobgoblin> how odd
[11:01] <benpowers23> Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (Input/output error)
[11:01] <hobgoblin> mmm
[11:02] <benpowers23> i wil restart my computer i will be back in 3 min
[11:02] <hobgoblin> Alt+F2 gnome-terminal
[11:02] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: stop
[11:02] <benpowers23> ok
[11:02] <benpowers23> i have run app window now
[11:02] <bioterror> hi
[11:03] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: did you check the cd and the md5sum?
[11:03] <hobgoblin> oh - is a terminal running now?
[11:03] <hobgoblin> hi bioterror
[11:03] <benpowers23> i dont understand
[11:04] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: did you make sure that the cd you burnt was good after you burned it and did you check that the download was good?
[11:04] <hobgoblin> or is it that you have it installed and are trying to resize the partition?
[11:05] <benpowers23> i used it to successfully install ubuntu on windows a day ago
[11:05] <benpowers23> no, i installed on windows and uninstalled
[11:05] <duaneipho> hello hobgoblin
[11:05] <hobgoblin> oh ok :)
[11:05] <benpowers23> i want to repartition
[11:05] <apollothethird> Angelo... you can help by reading the questions posted here or in the ubuntu forums and answering to the best of your experience.
[11:06] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: ok - so I need that command run then :) if terminal is not working tery a reboot
[11:06] <hobgoblin> hello duaneipho
[11:06] <benpowers23> ill be back in a min then
[11:08] <hobgoblin> k
[11:17] <angelo> thank u apollothe third!
[11:18] <angelo> :-)
[11:18] <angelo> ok
[11:19] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: wb
[11:19] <benpowers23> ty
[11:19] <benpowers23> i feel like an idiot
[11:19] <benpowers23> i know why terminal didnt work
[11:20] <benpowers23> i didnt have the dvd in
[11:20] <hobgoblin> yay
[11:20] <benpowers23> what was the cmd?
[11:20] <hobgoblin> sudo fdisk -l
[11:20] <hobgoblin> paste.ubuntu.com please
[11:22] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/526946/
[11:23] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: ok - now - what version of windows do you have?
[11:24] <benpowers23> windows vista
[11:24] <benpowers23> 64 bit
[11:25] <benpowers23> i just adjusted the clock and my mouse froze
[11:25] <benpowers23> ..
[11:25] <hobgoblin>  benpowers23 ok - I would suggest that any partition you need to do with the windows partition you do using the vista disk management tools
[11:25] <benpowers23> ok
[11:25] <benpowers23> so how shold i set it up?
[11:25] <benpowers23> 3 partitions?
[11:25] <benpowers23> one small 2 large?
[11:25] <hobgoblin> so - boot windows - resize the drive you want to resize so that you have sufficient space to work with in ubuntu then come back here
[11:26] <hobgoblin> benpowers23: I would do the resize then come back here with the livecd booted - you'll not be able to make suitable partitons with vista :)
[11:27] <benpowers23> ok
[11:27] <hobgoblin> I'll be about all day - so ping me if you want
[11:27] <hobgoblin> or just anyone who happens to be about - now that I am talking to myself lol
[11:28] <apollothethird> benpowers23 are you still there?
[11:32] <hobgoblin> apollothethird: he's gone
[11:36] <apollothethird> thanks.
[11:38] <apollothethird> I was going to suggest that you can actually partition from ubuntu live.  I did that for my pen drive and it works perfectly.  He could have left the small partition (which is provided by his computer manufacturer) and divided the large one to make partitions for Windows and Ubuntu.  Windows will respect partitions made by Ubuntu.
[11:39] <hobgoblin> I know you can - but there are sometimes issues with vista and partitioning - otherwise I would have done it from the livecd - they guy is stuck up a river so I didn't want to take any chances
[11:40] <apollothethird> I understand.
[12:02] <Mohan_chml> Vista makes some issues while partitioning and idk why that happens :(
[12:05] <Joeb454> Mohan_chml: did you defrag the drive a couple of times before trying to partition it?
[12:06] <Mohan_chml> Joeb454, he he. not for me. :)
[12:06] <Mohan_chml> Joeb454, but that is a good thing to do right?
[12:07] <Joeb454> Mohan_chml: I believe so, yes :)
[12:07] <Joeb454> It's been a long time since I needed to do it
[12:07] <Joeb454> I just partition my drives before putting anything on it now, much easier :P
[12:07] <Mohan_chml> :D
[12:19] <hobgoblin> yay for forward thinking Joeb454 :)
[12:22] <Joeb454> yay /me
[12:53] <UbuntuNoob> So.. I created a partition for Ubuntu and swap and it installed perfectly fine but now when I boot windows 7 I can only see that partition... is that normal?  Or am I supposed to be able to see the other partitions as well?
[12:54] <hobgoblin> UbuntuNoob: in windows you can only see linux partitions?
[12:55] <UbuntuNoob> when i boot windows 7 i can only see the windows 7 partition
[12:55] <hobgoblin> windows will not recognise linux partitions
[12:55] <hobgoblin> or at least not by default it won't
[12:56] <UbuntuNoob> so it would be able to recognize it and show up in my computer if linux were not installed on it?
[12:57] <hobgoblin> it would be able to recognise it if it was a windows format
[12:57] <hobgoblin> UbuntuNoob: what is it you are trying to do?
[12:57] <UbuntuNoob> i was just scared how the linux partition didn't show up in mycomputer
[12:57] <UbuntuNoob> is there anyway to make it show up?
[12:59] <hobgoblin> oic - I would be more scared if it did - at least by default :) you can install something in windows - but I am not at all sure if it works with ext4
[13:00] <UbuntuNoob> oh okay now i'm scared cause the easybcd isn't letting me run the program? says there's something missing from the registry
[13:01] <UbuntuNoob> boot configuration data store could not be opened
[13:02] <UbuntuNoob> system cannot find the file specified
[13:02] <UbuntuNoob> where can i manually load the BCD registry?
[13:03] <hobgoblin> I have absolutely no idea - someone else might - windows is all a bit of a mystery to me more and more now
[13:04] <UbuntuNoob> lol i just googled it i think i found an answer
[13:04] <UbuntuNoob> oh do you know anything about dual booting?
[13:05] <hobgoblin> well yes - but once it's a windows question - unless I can remember the answer - I switch off a bit
[13:09] <UbuntuNoob> oh i see
[13:09] <UbuntuNoob> i'm going to try rebooting
[13:15] <UbuntuNoob> okay so I just installed ubuntu on a partition and i boot ubuntu, log in and then how do i join my wireless network?
[13:36] <UbuntuNoob> how do i connect to my wireless network?
[13:40] <JoeMaverickSett> UbuntuNoob: do you see a network icon on your panel?
[13:56] <UbuntuNoob> i see something that looks like a signal
[14:00] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Type sudo iwlist scan in terminal and check whether you have any wireless network present
[14:00] <UbuntuNoob> terminal? where do i go for terminal?
[14:01] <JoeMaverickSett> UbuntuNoob: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[14:02] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Or press Alt+F2 and type "gnome-terminal" without quotes
[14:03] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Type "sudo iwlist scan" without quotes
[14:08] <UbuntuNoob> interface doesn't support scanning?
[14:12] <JoeMaverickSett> UbuntuNoob: click on the network icon on the panel, and see if you got any connections there.
[14:13] <UbuntuNoob> nope
[14:13] <UbuntuNoob> :(
[14:13] <UbuntuNoob> do i have to install drivers?
[14:13] <UbuntuNoob> cause it was working when i wsa running ubuntu stragiht off the disk
[14:13] <UbuntuNoob> but now after installing i can't connect
[14:13] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: What version of ubuntu you are using?
[14:16] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: can you click network manager icon in your taskbar
[14:16] <UbuntuNoob> the newest one
[14:16] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[14:16] <UbuntuNoob> vpn connections?
[14:16] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Can you see your wireless network there?
[14:18] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: or right click the network monitor applet and configure the wireless connection
[14:19] <UbuntuNoob> well
[14:19] <UbuntuNoob> i enabled connections
[14:19] <UbuntuNoob> but
[14:19] <UbuntuNoob> i dont see any
[14:19] <UbuntuNoob> like i did yesterday
[14:20] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: wat?
[14:22] <UbuntuNoob> like
[14:22] <UbuntuNoob> are you talking about the signal looking like icon on the top right?
[14:24] <karthick87> Type iwconfig in terminal and post the results here
[14:24] <UbuntuNoob> no wireless extensions o.o
[14:26] <karthick87> Uh 0_O
[14:27] <UbuntuNoob> when i clicked on "try linux" or something like that without installing the OS it worked
[14:27] <UbuntuNoob> but now i dont see any available connections
[14:28] <karthick87> what version of ubuntu you are using?
[14:29] <UbuntuNoob> 10.10
[14:30] <UbuntuNoob> wtf
[14:36] <karthick87> but wireless wfm
[14:39] <UbuntuNoob> ugh i dont know why this wireless internet isn't working
[14:42] <UbuntuNoob> is there anyway to serach for drivers and update like how windows does?
[14:44] <JoeMaverickSett> UbuntuNoob: go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[14:46] <UbuntuNoob> i see i have to activate my wireless card but it says installation of this driver failed please havea look at the log file for details: /var/log/jocket.log
[14:46] <UbuntuNoob> what do i do?
[14:47] <cprofitt> UbuntuNoob: do you know what the card is?
[14:47] <UbuntuNoob> it's my wireless card
[14:47] <UbuntuNoob> for internet
[14:47] <cprofitt> I meant what model...
[14:47] <cprofitt> do you know how to open a terminal?
[14:48] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[14:48] <cprofitt> we can identify the card with a simple command
[14:48] <cprofitt> lspci | grep Network
[14:48] <cprofitt> you should get a result like this:
[14:48] <cprofitt> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300
[14:48] <UbuntuNoob> broadcom
[14:48] <UbuntuNoob> bcm43224
[14:49] <cprofitt> are you running Ubuntu?
[14:49] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[14:49] <cprofitt> an I assume you tried to add the hardware drivers under System | Administration | Hardware
[14:50] <cprofitt> or Additional Drivers I mean
[14:50] <cprofitt> sorry
[14:50] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[14:50] <UbuntuNoob> i tried to activate it
[14:51] <cprofitt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:52] <cprofitt> that article may help you
[14:57] <UbuntuNoob> checking it out
[14:57] <UbuntuNoob> thanks :)
[14:58] <cprofitt> np
[14:58] <cprofitt> let me know if it helps or not
[15:05] <UbuntuNoob> where do i find ../pool/restricted/b/bcmw
[15:06] <cprofitt> UbuntuNoob: you only need that if you do not have internet access
[15:06] <cprofitt> it is on the LiveCD
[15:06] <UbuntuNoob> yea i dont have internet on that laptop
[15:06] <UbuntuNoob> livecd?
[15:06] <UbuntuNoob> the install cd?
[15:07] <cprofitt> the CD you used to installed Ubuntu from
[15:07] <cprofitt> yes
[15:07] <UbuntuNoob> okay let me take a look at it
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> oh
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> i see
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> wireless networks
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> then wiireless is disabled
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> how do i enable it?
[15:09] <cprofitt> what model computer do you have?
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> a laptop
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> i have those special keys
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> i tried to enable it
[15:09] <cprofitt> there may be a hardware toggle too
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> but odesn't look like it's doing much
[15:09] <UbuntuNoob> it's not toggling :(
[15:09] <cprofitt> do you know what model of laptop?
[15:10] <cprofitt> Lenovo, Dell, HP...
[15:10] <UbuntuNoob> dell
[15:10] <UbuntuNoob> inspiron
[15:10] <cprofitt> some times there is a hardware switch in the front or on the side
[15:10] <cprofitt> in addition to the Fn+F# keys
[15:10] <UbuntuNoob> it's an fn f2 thing
[15:10] <cprofitt> look for a hardware switch on the front or side
[15:10] <UbuntuNoob> i never used a switch other than that o.o
[15:11] <UbuntuNoob> i dont see one
[15:11] <cprofitt> it usually has a computer with radio waves on either side marking the switch
[15:11] <cprofitt> do you know what model Inspiron?
[15:11] <UbuntuNoob> 1624 i think
[15:12] <UbuntuNoob> no 1764
[15:13] <cprofitt> there is a switch
[15:13] <UbuntuNoob> there is?
[15:13] <cprofitt> it is at the very front of one of the sides
[15:13] <stlsaint> morning folks
[15:13] <dizm> hey peeps. loving ubuntu so far (2days into it). i have 1 problem. im using a 120hz viewsonic fuhzion montior but in the display options, it will not allow me to set it to 120hz - it's not even in the list
[15:13] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: hey how did the install go?
[15:13] <dizm> is there a way around that?
[15:14] <cprofitt> trying to find an on-line picture for you
[15:15] <UbuntuNoob> install go?
[15:16] <pedro3005> dizm, you could try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[15:16] <cprofitt> UbuntuNoob: do you see a slide switch on the side?
[15:16] <UbuntuNoob> i dont think this laptop has one
[15:16] <cprofitt> well... Dell documentation says it does
[15:16] <cprofitt> if it is a 1764
[15:16] <UbuntuNoob> you might be looking at the i3 version
[15:17] <UbuntuNoob> if i rebooted to windows 7 the wireless would work
[15:17] <cprofitt> that means it is on in hardware then
[15:17] <cprofitt> so it is a matter of drivers
[15:17] <UbuntuNoob> wtf?
[15:17] <UbuntuNoob> OH
[15:17] <UbuntuNoob> i'm retarded
[15:18] <UbuntuNoob> i forgot to enable it
[15:18] <cprofitt> lol
[15:18] <cprofitt> No worries dude...
[15:18] <UbuntuNoob> but my network doesn't show up o.o
[15:18] <cprofitt> and I would imagine you are quite smart
[15:18] <cprofitt> give it time...
[15:18] <UbuntuNoob> it auto rescans?
[15:18] <cprofitt> when you first enable it it has to scan
[15:18] <cprofitt> yes -- unless you have a hidden SSID it should show up
[15:19] <UbuntuNoob> hm
[15:19] <UbuntuNoob> mine's not hidden
[15:20] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: didnt you install yesterday?
[15:20] <UbuntuNoob> wireless was working when i was just running ubuntu off the disk
[15:22] <UbuntuNoob> wtf still disconnected
[15:22] <cprofitt> it should work just fine after install then....
[15:22] <cprofitt> I wish I was there...
[15:22] <UbuntuNoob> lol me too
[15:22] <cprofitt> it is tough to provide support at times via irc
[15:22] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[15:23] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: what type of driver is your wireless using?
[15:23] <UbuntuNoob> the driver from the install disk
[15:23] <cprofitt> stlsaint: I just had him follow this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:28] <dizm> pedro3005, i will try this in a minute. thanks for the link. ill let you know, how it goes.
[15:29] <pedro3005> no problem
[15:31] <UbuntuNoob> this is frustrating
[15:31] <UbuntuNoob> gonna try a reboot
[15:34] <UbuntuNoob_> WTF? so all i needed to do was reboot -.-
[15:35] <coz_> UbuntuNoob,  at times for drivers a reboot does the trick :)
[15:35] <UbuntuNoob_> ya LOL
[15:35] <cprofitt> ah... if a reboot worked... then we could have done a modprobe to get it to work too
[15:35] <cprofitt> but rebooting works too
[15:35] <UbuntuNoob_> apparently
[15:35] <cprofitt> glad it is working for you UbuntuNoob
[15:35] <UbuntuNoob_> :P
[15:35] <UbuntuNoob_> thank you
[15:35] <UbuntuNoob_> i still need help though
[15:35] <cprofitt> no problem
[15:36] <cprofitt> what else do you need?
[15:36] <UbuntuNoob_> um does ubuntu let you do this?
[15:36] <UbuntuNoob_> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8383/desktoppich.jpg
[15:36] <cprofitt> yes
[15:37] <UbuntuNoob_> how do i do it? do i need more programs?
[15:37] <cprofitt> not sure what DE that is... but let me point you to a thread
[15:37] <UbuntuNoob_> okay :)
[15:37] <coz_> conky?
[15:37] <UbuntuNoob_> that's what i heart
[15:37] <UbuntuNoob_> heard
[15:37] <cprofitt> coz_: could be, but the menu is in there too
[15:37] <cprofitt> so it might not be conky
[15:38] <cprofitt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610583
[15:38] <cprofitt> that will show off some desktops
[15:38] <coz_> mm if gnome looks like the panel was widened
[15:38] <cprofitt> and the people who did them are usually very willing to share
[15:38] <JoeMaverickSett> i think it's conky done with this, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/conkywizard-gui-to-set-up-conky.html :)
[15:38] <cprofitt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[15:39] <cprofitt> that is a thread on conky with people posting their details
[15:39] <cprofitt> JoeMaverickSett: the menu was in line with the conky items though
[15:39] <UbuntuNoob_> hmmm
[15:39] <UbuntuNoob_> i just want that menu and the other specs that show up
[15:39] <UbuntuNoob_> doesn't have to be inthe same line
[15:40] <coz_> unless there is a gnome applet  that has similar info  and the gnome panel is widened a bunch
[15:40] <cprofitt> but either way those two threads will get you on the way to making something you like
[15:40] <cprofitt> many choices of extra apps
[15:40] <UbuntuNoob_> okay
[15:40] <cprofitt> looking through those two threads will expose you to most of them
[15:40] <UbuntuNoob_> thank you :) time to explore lol
[15:40] <JoeMaverickSett> cprofitt: might be an icon pointing to those commands that will open up, e.g. trash? :) just a thought.
[15:40] <cprofitt> there are panel mods, docks, etc
[15:40] <cprofitt> JoeMaverickSett: could be...
[15:41] <cprofitt> the beauty of Linux and Ubuntu is there are so many ways to make your computer YOURS
[15:41] <JoeMaverickSett> *anything is possible if you just believe!* ;)
[15:42] <coz_> you guys know about this ..yes   ?   telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl   << in terminal
[15:42] <JoeMaverickSett> yes.
[15:42] <coz_> :)
[15:44] <UbuntuNoob_> what happens if i delete the panel up top?
[15:44] <coz_> UbuntuNoob_,  you have no panel
[15:45] <UbuntuNoob_> would that be bad?
[15:45] <coz_> UbuntuNoob_, you would need to have a dock for applications or open  your applications via terminal
[15:45] <UbuntuNoob_> cause i dont see any other way to access stuff if i removed that panel
[15:45] <UbuntuNoob_> oh open them through terminal...
[15:45] <coz_> not sure if alt+F2  would be disabled at that point...I havent tried it
[15:47] <coz_> UbuntuNoob_,  or if you want the gnome panel to be "similar" to that image you posted ...right click / properties / "size" = something more than it is
[15:47] <coz_> UbuntuNoob_,  change the background to transparent
[15:47] <UbuntuNoob_> gnome panel...
[15:49] <Santman> hi
[15:55] <karthick87> hi
[15:58] <Santman> Hi, i'm trying the first time to install linux (ubuntu 10.10) with my hp notebook nx9005. At the end of the installation, i press the "Restart now" button an while shutdown the cd drive opens end i get the following error message: "[ 3262.542930] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 529096" (i tried it two times, once with a cd-rw and second try with a cd-r
[15:59] <dizm> pedro3005, sorted. thank you :).
[16:00] <dizm> another question i have; the mail box button on the top right of the task bar.. when you expand the option then goto mail can you make it open a different application?
[16:11] <lukjad> Hi everyone
[16:12] <lukjad> I'm (finally) updating my Ubuntu 9.04 install to 10.10
[16:13] <zkriesse> eh two updates or just full install
[16:13] <lukjad> zkriesse Full install
[16:13] <lukjad> I've backed up my /var/www folder and have a separate /home partition. Anything else I should do?
[16:13] <lukjad> I also had synaptic make a package list
[16:14] <lukjad> And hai zkriesse
[16:14] <zkriesse> lukjad: k cool....and hiyas
[16:14] <lukjad> zkriesse Anything I'm missing
[16:14] <lukjad> ?
[16:14] <phillw> lukjad: in that case just do a clean install, saves you updating grub legacy and changing the file system to ext4
[16:14] <zkriesse> I don't think so
[16:14] <dizm> i have another question;
[16:15] <dizm> the mail button, in the top right of the task bar. can you make that open a different application?
[16:15] <phillw> lukjad: I have instructions for updating your /home to ext4
[16:15] <dizm> like thunderbird?
[16:15] <zkriesse> I don't think so....
[16:15] <lukjad> phillw I'm only reinstalling / I plan on leaving /home and a few other partitions untouched
[16:15] <zkriesse> Notice i said "think"
[16:15] <lukjad> phillw I don't have a way to back up my partitions
[16:15] <aveilleux> dizm: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/how-to-add-thunderbird-to-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu/
[16:15] <lukjad> My external HD's power converter died
[16:16] <phillw> lukjad: that is entirely up to you, mine went sweetly; but as you say, you MUST have a backup :)
[16:16] <dizm> ah, nice aveilleux
[16:16] <dizm> thank you
[16:16] <dizm> :)
[16:16] <aveilleux> dizm, No problem
[16:16] <aveilleux> dizm, I had the same issue not too long ago ;-)
[16:16] <lukjad> phillw You know what, I'm going to get myself a new HD
[16:16] <dizm> :)
[16:17] <lukjad> phillw I mean, I don't like updating stuff and worrying
[16:17] <lukjad> It's about time I get something new for my PC.
[16:17] <lukjad> phillw zkriesse Do either of you prefer a brand for external HDs?
[16:18] <zkriesse> Ah i do
[16:18] <zkriesse> gimme a sec i'll grab the link
[16:18] <lukjad> which?
[16:18] <phillw> lukjad: Seagate are a little faster, but Western digital are pretty bomb proof and use les power.
[16:18] <lukjad> k
[16:19] <lukjad> phillw I keep stuff forever
[16:19] <zkriesse> Western Digital is what i was going to say
[16:19] <lukjad> :D]
[16:19] <phillw> lukjad: I use WD's for laptops, but for a desktop system you may well be better off with a Seagate unit.
[16:20] <zkriesse> Nah, WD are good
[16:20] <lukjad> phillw True, but I rarely use my HD, just for backups
[16:20] <zkriesse> We've got a WD Terabyte drive for my dad's desktop...runs fine
[16:20] <lukjad> I'll sacrifice speed for stability and durability
[16:21]  * phillw WD drives are extremely reliable, just a little slower. for backups I'd always go for a WD unit, but that's just IMHO.
[16:22] <pedro3005> I like how phillw randomly decides to speak in /me instead of normal for no apparent reason
[16:22] <pedro3005> he doesn't even change tenses
[16:22] <pedro3005> :p
[16:22] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[16:23] <zkriesse> lol
[16:23]  * lukjad do that too
[16:23] <lukjad> from now on
[16:24] <lukjad> Bleeding hurts
[16:25] <pedro3005> lukjad, and then add a couple of exclamation marks with spaces at the end of every other sentence and you'll be fine   !!!
[16:25] <phillw> lukjad: you've just a raw nerve here, I was assaulted a couple of days ago - I'm still healing. :(
[16:25] <lukjad> paultag !
[16:25] <lukjad> phillw Aw :(
[16:26] <lukjad> phillw I just nicked myself, not as bad as you
[16:26] <paultag> lukjad, :)
[16:26] <phillw> paultag: hiyas, hope your day is going well :)
[16:26] <paultag> phillw, quite :)
[16:26] <paultag> phillw, I just saw the best tweet of my life
[16:27] <lukjad> paultag I'm going to buy an external HD, any brand(s) you favour?
[16:27] <paultag> lukjad, No clue :)
[16:27] <paultag> phillw, are you a trek fan?
[16:27] <pedro3005> sorry phillw , just poking some fun
[16:27] <pedro3005> and hey paultag
[16:27] <phillw> paultag: to a degree, I don't too much T.V.
[16:27] <paultag> phillw, http://twitter.com/levarburton/status/541379696533505
[16:28] <paultag> pedro3005, :)
[16:28] <phillw> I enjoyed DS9 when they got the defiant and Voyager.
[16:28] <paultag> phillw, he plays Lt. Commander LaForge
[16:29] <phillw> paultag: now, that IS funny :D
[16:29] <paultag> phillw, :)
[16:29] <paultag> phillw, I sent him one back
[16:30] <paultag> phillw, http://twitter.com/paultag/status/940046458814464
[16:30] <phillw> and before we all get told off, either #ubuntu-beginners-team or #lubuntu-offtopic  :)
[16:30] <paultag> phillw, I'm the one who tells people off :)
[16:30] <paultag> but your point is sound :)
[16:43] <lukjad> hobgoblin !
[16:43] <lukjad> Hey, BTW paultag, do you play minecraft?
[16:44] <paultag> lukjad, nosir.
[16:44] <lukjad> Aw, you should
[16:54] <UbuntuNoob> i dont understand why my conky isn't working
[16:56] <karthick87> post your conky in a pastebin
[16:57] <UbuntuNoob> pastebin?
[16:57] <aveilleux> !pastebin |UbuntuNoob
[16:57] <ubot2> UbuntuNoob: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[16:58] <UbuntuNoob> oh just kidding i was using a broken conky file :) hehe
[16:59] <UbuntuNoob> to keep the little thing up do we need to have terminal running?
[17:00] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Get a conky from http://ca.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865 and try running it
[17:01] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Ofcourse being a linux user,you must know to use terminal
[17:02] <UbuntuNoob> is there a command to stop the conky from running?
[17:02] <UbuntuNoob> i'm noob at linux lol
[17:02] <aveilleux> karthick87, I wouldn't make that assumption
[17:03] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Press Alt-F2 and type "killall conky" without quotes
[17:03] <karthick87> aveilleux: hen?
[17:03] <karthick87> aveilleux: then?
[17:03] <aveilleux> karthick87, ...I don't understand the question
[17:04] <UbuntuNoob> that works
[17:04] <UbuntuNoob> this is difficult
[17:04] <karthick87> aveilleux: which questio..?
[17:04] <UbuntuNoob> i know little about linux scripting
[17:04] <aveilleux> karthick87, "then?"
[17:05] <karthick87> aveilleux: which assumption you wouldn't make..?
[17:05] <aveilleux> karthick87, I wouldn't assume that all Linux users know how to use Terminal
[17:05] <aveilleux> karthick87, Especially with the efforts that Ubuntu and others are doing to help people learn how to use Linux before they understand the command-line
[17:06] <karthick87> aveilleux: Thats right, but its good to know some basic commands
[17:06] <stlsaint> karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Ofcourse being a linux user,you must know to use terminal
[17:07] <stlsaint> ^^ i must object
[17:07] <UbuntuNoob> i know alittle
[17:07] <UbuntuNoob> i'm taking a class on it
[17:07] <stlsaint> that is why there are graphical interfaces that allow you do to work, there is NOTHING in ubuntu that a user cannot do from terminal AND from cli
[17:07] <UbuntuNoob> is there something similar to a task manager for ubuntu?
[17:08] <stlsaint> yea alot of different options
[17:08] <stlsaint> UbuntuNoob: hehe, yea...its called Task Manager ;)
[17:08] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: System Monitor
[17:09] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: System-->Administration-->System Monitor
[17:10] <UbuntuNoob> hm
[17:10] <UbuntuNoob> clicking and highlighting on the desktop is very slow
[17:12] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: What you mean..?
[17:32] <UbuntuNoob> how do i remove this icon on my desktop?
[17:35] <ikt> which icon?
[17:35] <UbuntuNoob> there's a drive
[17:35] <UbuntuNoob> that i can't delete
[17:35] <UbuntuNoob> and cd rom drive
[17:35] <aveilleux> eject the drive?
[17:37] <karthick87> Press Alt-F2 to bring up the Run Application dialog. Type gconf-editor  and click Run.In the left pane of the window, browse to apps->nautilus->desktop. Uncheck the volumes_visible option and the partitions on your desktop will disappear.
[17:37] <ikt> http://ikt.id.au/?p=191 <-
[17:37] <ikt> or ^
[17:37] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob, Press Alt-F2 to bring up the Run Application dialog. Type gconf-editor  and click Run.In the left pane of the window, browse to apps->nautilus->desktop. Uncheck the volumes_visible option and the partitions on your desktop will disappear.
[17:37] <aveilleux> karthick87, No need to repeat yourself
[17:38] <UbuntuNoob> ooo ty
[17:39] <UbuntuNoob> and i set a wallpaper but now my google chrome icon hides behind the wallpaper after i move my cursor away
[17:39] <UbuntuNoob> is that just a transparency issue?
[17:41] <ikt> where is the chrome icon?
[17:41] <ikt> on the gnome panel?
[17:42] <ikt> I have my gnome panel set to defaults /none (use system theme) as the background, so it shouldn't be transparent at all
[17:42] <UbuntuNoob> on the desktop
[17:45] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Are you sure the icon is on your desktop..?
[17:45] <UbuntuNoob> yea
[17:45] <PCChris> I have an external monitor hooked up to a laptop....when I close the laptop lid and re-open, it switches display modes (ie one continous screen==>clone==>blanking one screen or the other)...it cycles through each time the lid is closed/open....any way to stop this from happening?
[17:45] <UbuntuNoob> how does chat work?  can you open your buddy list?
[17:49] <karthick87> UbuntuNoob: Are you talking about irc chat..?
[17:52] <paultag> He's gone karthick87
[17:52] <paultag> BRB
[17:53] <karthick87> Oke i din notice :)
[17:56] <PCChris> I have an external monitor hooked up to a laptop....when I close the laptop lid and re-open, it switches display modes (ie one continous screen==>clone==>blanking one screen or the other)...it cycles through each time the lid is closed/open....any way to stop this from happening?
[17:57] <ehcah> Anyone out there prefer Ubuntu Serer to pre-packaged NAS like OpenFIler or FreeNAS or unRAID?
[18:22] <PCChris> I have an external monitor hooked up to a laptop....when I close the laptop lid and re-open, it switches display modes (ie one continous screen==>clone==>blanking one screen or the other)...it cycles through each time the lid is closed/open....any way to stop this from happening?
[18:22] <UndiFineD> PCChris, the only way i can think of is to have a static xorg.conf
[18:22]  * UndiFineD goes back to dinner
[19:15] <UndiFineD> PCChris, made progress ?
[19:15] <PCChris> yeah, sorry
[19:16] <PCChris> UndiFineD, I ended up hacking some stuff together in xrandr in the script I'm running to mess with reconfiguring the displays before running the rest of the script
[19:17] <UndiFineD> with a static xorg.conf, you just specify the 2 monitors and the resolutions they use
[19:18] <UndiFineD> the virtual desktop size is that of both screens combined in a single rectangular
[19:18] <UndiFineD> it is ok to have a space of unused bits
[19:18] <UndiFineD> though it does gets rendered offscreen
[19:19] <UndiFineD> here is an example how that works for me: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/desktop.png
[19:30] <KinkyPinkie> Hello! I have a reaccouring problem with my menubar icons.. I forget that I am using the pictures in my folder as an icon to some of my shortcuts, so I delete them.. How do I retag the picture as the menubar icon logo?
[19:43] <thewrathjr> hey all!
[19:43] <karthick87> hi
[19:44] <thewrathjr> anyone know how to create a provisioning server or a kickstart server using ubuntu
[19:44] <deejoe> thewrathjr: this is kind of old, but might get you started https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[19:47] <UndiFineD> kickastart is fun
[19:48] <UndiFineD> take a look at uec
[19:48] <UndiFineD> much disscussion on that with UDS-N
[19:48] <UndiFineD> thinking about using that myself for my daughters computers
[19:49] <thewrathjr> UndiFineD: do you use linux on all PCs or linux
[19:49] <UndiFineD> I have a family of 6
[19:49] <thewrathjr> all use linux?
[19:50] <UndiFineD> a laptop and a desktop have windows, my machine uses linux
[19:50] <UndiFineD> an eeepc uses xubuntu atm
[19:50] <UndiFineD> and i have 2 machine to install
[19:50] <thewrath> clear
[19:50] <thewrath> ah
[19:51] <thewrath> and you are going to use linux UndiFineD ?
[19:51] <UndiFineD> yes
[19:51] <UndiFineD> ubunut on all would be my preference, but school huh
[19:51] <thewrath> can i kick a windows box with a linux kickstart server?
[19:52] <thewrath> hey st33med long time no see
[19:52] <UndiFineD> i think so, you; be transfering an image
[19:52] <UndiFineD> the bigger the slower
[19:52] <thewrath> true
[19:52] <thewrath> but you dont know for sure?
[19:53] <UndiFineD> well, it is just like vmware over iSCSI
[19:54] <UndiFineD> you can do scsi over ethernet too
[19:54] <UndiFineD> many possibilities on linux to achieve anything
[20:01] <st33med> Hey thewrath
[20:08] <satish> hi
[20:08] <satish> iam unable to install wine on ubuntu 10.10
[20:08] <satish> please help me
[20:09] <satish> satish
[20:09] <satish> here
[20:10] <UndiFineD> synaptic shows wine 1.0 and 1.2 for me
[20:10] <UndiFineD> both work fine for me
[20:10] <UndiFineD> but it one or the other
[20:11] <satish> which version odf wine ahall i use for ubuntu 10.10
[20:11] <satish> ?
[20:11] <UndiFineD> 1.2 is the latest, which obviously has bugfixes of 1.0
[20:12] <satish> yeah..but its not working
[20:12] <satish> iam unable to open micro office exe file through wine
[20:13] <satish> its showing u need to have new version of windows
[20:15] <UndiFineD> why would you want to use microsoft office on linux ?
[20:16] <UndiFineD> and you can make wine pretend to be any version of windows
[20:16] <satish> i want to install micro office 2007
[20:16] <satish> on linux
[20:16] <satish> wat shall i do?
[20:17] <satish> ya but its asking new version of wine
[20:20] <UndiFineD> when i start wine configuration, the first tab it shows is about the windows versions
[20:20] <UndiFineD> which currently, by default is set to windows xp
[20:20] <UndiFineD> for wine 1.2
[20:21] <UndiFineD> though, you might need to install some libraries
[20:24] <scott__> what package do i need to download to run the virtual box?
[20:24] <UndiFineD> virtualbox ose works for me
[20:27] <scott__> i downloaded virtualbox ose guest utils & vb ose guest x11. but i still can't it to run.
[20:27] <scott__> idk what i am doing wrong.
[20:28] <scott__> can someone help me w/ my problem?
[20:29] <UndiFineD> did you reboot ?
[20:30] <UndiFineD> it installs a couple of kernel mods, but not not all are active
[20:30] <UndiFineD> especially the virtual network can be down
[20:30] <scott__> i will reboot & see if they appear.
[20:31] <scott__> thank you very much.
[20:31] <UndiFineD> :)
[21:36] <loo0oola> hi im useing ubuntu 10.10 but the language change from Arabic to English
[21:37] <thewrath> hey all!
[21:38] <loo0oola>  hi im useing ubuntu 10.10 but the language change from Arabic to English
[21:39] <mkarl> hi thewrath
[21:39] <thewrath> wats up mkarl
[21:39] <mkarl> nothing much, quiet night, u?
[21:41] <shishak> Hello, I am looking for help with virtualbox...is this the right place or should I go look elsewhere
[21:41] <mkarl> depends what shishak.
[21:41] <mkarl> *what problem it is
[21:42] <shishak> well I am trying to install xp on virtual box with a mounted ISO
[21:43] <shishak> I am looking for ideas more than anything, and I have no blank CD/DVD's available
[21:43] <shishak> I can boot from floppy, CD, or Lan  I have no floppy drive and no blanks
[21:46] <stlsaint> shishak: point the vbox storage to look at the iso, then hit f12 at vm bootup to choose where to boot from
[21:47] <head_victim> I've never used Vbox with a cd to be honest, only ever used iso files.
[21:47] <stlsaint> head_victim: the same pertains as with a iso, just point the cd setting to look at the actual physical cd/dvd drive
[21:47] <shishak> I will look in that
[21:48] <stlsaint> shishak: its the best way to install from iso
[21:49] <stlsaint> i do it all the time ;)
[21:49] <shishak> how exactly
[21:50] <shishak> I cant seem to get the vbox to see the ISO
[21:50] <shishak> I reset the default hard disk folder to the ISO
[21:51] <Cheri703> unmount the iso shishak
[21:51] <shishak> ok
[21:52] <shishak> the ISO is greyed out
[21:56] <thewrath> stlsaint: i had voice back in the day and i lost it
[21:56] <thewrath> how do i get it back
[21:56] <stlsaint> thewrath: meh, dont worry too much about that atm, the team is undergoing some changes
[21:57] <shishak> do you know if there is virtualbox channel somewhere?
[21:57] <thewrath> i believe there is
[21:58] <shishak> I think i found it
[21:58] <head_victim> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/IRC
[21:58] <shishak> #vbox
[21:59] <shishak> Thanks for the help anyway!
[21:59] <shishak> have a good day
[22:05] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[22:05] <kosaidpo> my conky appear when  my desktop laucnh but after its gone
[22:06] <KinkyPinkie> is it a common problem that firefox fails to respond and requires system reboot to launch?
[22:07] <stlsaint> kosaidpo: run conky from the terminal and it will reappear
[22:07] <kosaidpo> yeh
[22:07] <kosaidpo> but if hit ctrl+c it ll go
[22:07] <kosaidpo> uhn ?? no ?
[22:08] <mkarl> KinkyPinkie, is this when restarting after a crash?
[22:08] <KinkyPinkie> yes
[22:09] <kosaidpo> yeh
[22:09] <KinkyPinkie> says end the process or reboot system. the problem lasts if i try to fix the process
[22:12] <mkarl> sometimes it can stay running, or leave a lock file
[22:12] <mkarl> is the process still running: ps aux | grep firefox
[22:20] <KinkyPinkie> mkarl doing that printed     1652  0.0  0.0   3324   796 pts/1    S+   23:20   0:00 grep --color=auto frefox
[22:21] <KinkyPinkie> dont understand what it means
[22:21] <mkarl> thats the grep (search process)
[22:21] <mkarl> firefox is not currently running.
[22:21] <mkarl> can you not start it now?
[22:21] <KinkyPinkie> no
[22:22] <mkarl> ok, 1 moment
[22:23] <KinkyPinkie>     1652  0.0  0.0   3324   796 pts/1    S+   23:20   0:00 grep --color=auto frefox
[22:23] <KinkyPinkie> ops
[22:24] <mkarl> can you try it from a console?
[22:24] <mkarl> firefox -safe-mode
[22:25] <mkarl> that will start firefox in a minimal, safe mode (it won't load any extensions etc. - maybe one of these caused an error?)
[22:25] <KinkyPinkie> same error message: not responding, close prosses or restart your system
[22:27] <mkarl> ok, maybe your profile is locked from the previous firefox that was running
[22:28] <KinkyPinkie> i dont know, and it's fuckign annoying. i had this problem 2 times already since 3 hours. and it happens atleast once a day
[22:28] <mkarl> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use#Remove_the_profile_lock_file
[22:28] <mkarl> easiest way is to open a console:
[22:28] <mkarl> cd ~/.mozilla/
[22:29] <mkarl> then ls to view a list of profiles
[22:29] <mkarl> (generally just one there)
[22:29] <KinkyPinkie> i got eclipse, extentions and firefox
[22:31] <mkarl> cd into firefox
[22:31] <mkarl> and ls again, there should be a folder called something like nrb1vcub.default
[22:31] <mkarl> cd into that one
[22:31] <KinkyPinkie> yes
[22:32] <mkarl> and ls again
[22:32] <mkarl> sorry
[22:32] <mkarl> * ls -a
[22:33] <KinkyPinkie> with the *?
[22:33] <mkarl> sorry
[22:33] <mkarl> ls -a
[22:33] <mkarl> typo :P
[22:33] <mkarl> should be a file called lock
[22:33] <KinkyPinkie> yes
[22:34] <KinkyPinkie> rm?
[22:34] <mkarl> yep
[22:35] <KinkyPinkie> didnt solve it :(
[22:35] <mkarl> it didn't?
[22:35] <KinkyPinkie> nope
[22:35] <KinkyPinkie> that's fuckign it.. im throwing my pc  out the window and call insurance and buy a mac instead.. :( been nothing but problems since day one with this one, and i taght it was only windows :(
[22:36] <mkarl> try deleting .parentlock as well
[22:36] <mkarl> as a last restort.
[22:36] <KinkyPinkie> no such file
[22:37] <KinkyPinkie> looks like it got automatically removed along with the lock
[22:37] <mkarl> another way is just remove the profile and start again ;)
[22:37] <mkarl> but you will lose settings, favourites, cookies, history etc.
[22:37] <KinkyPinkie> oh, no can do :(
[22:38] <KinkyPinkie> got some important links for school and work there i cant afford to loose
[22:38] <KinkyPinkie> could save them some way and do it later though.. thanks alot mkarl! :)
[22:38] <mkarl> well, it is possible to recover from an existing profile and put it into another one
[22:38] <mkarl> https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Recovering+important+data+from+an+old+profile
[22:38] <mkarl> sorry i can't be more help :)
[22:38] <mkarl> yw :)
[22:42] <Alex21> hello! i`m new to linux and i installed ubuntu 10.10 in dual with my win xp. I have 2 HDD ( 1st with one partition with win xp on it[c] and the 2nd has two partiotions[d]&[e] and i used [e] to install ubuntu) . The thing is now it won`t load any of the OSs. Anyone knows where i did something wrong?
[22:42] <Alex21> i tried to boot from both HDD and still no luck
[22:43] <Alex21> i installed ubuntu 2 times and set the bootloader the be installed on first hdd ( first time) and the on 2nd hdd and still no luck
[23:04] <SPooN> Hello there.
[23:07] <head_victim> Gday SPooN
[23:08] <SPooN> Totally messed up my ubuntu install... accidentally gave it the whole HD so now I'm relying on Ubuntu w/o any of my old, familiar Windows... Hope this works out.
[23:09] <stlsaint> SPooN: did you install lubuntu?
[23:09] <head_victim> SPooN: that's not totally messed up, that's an upgrade :)
[23:09] <stlsaint> SPooN: sorry
[23:09] <stlsaint> lol
[23:09] <SPooN> uhm... I installed Ubuntu 10.10 off a USB
[23:10] <stlsaint> SPooN: are you familiar with ubuntu?
[23:10] <SPooN> I was ready to make the swap honestly, I just had documents/files on Windows that I would have liked to keep/transfer
[23:10] <head_victim> SPooN: ahh and no backups?
[23:10] <SPooN> No, I've never used it before. Got some guidance on getting Broadcom-STA downloaded, and getting Flash
[23:11] <SPooN> I'm not smart enough to keep backups. Fortunately most of my schoolwork is backed up though
[23:11] <head_victim> Ok
[23:12] <stlsaint> SPooN: well this channel is here to help new users with ubuntu and getting into the community so feel free to hang here and get help on any issues
[23:12] <SPooN> Thanks, will be doing so :)
[23:12] <head_victim> SPooN: flash - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[23:12] <SPooN> Seems that I have everything I need for now, word processing, internet
[23:14] <head_victim> SPooN: sta drivers - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing STA drivers
[23:14] <head_victim> If you come across any dramas with the documentation let us know and we can help further
[23:14] <SPooN> thank you
[23:14] <head_victim> SPooN: it's what were' here for :)
[23:36] <ScottD> hi.
[23:36] <head_victim> Hi ScottD
[23:37] <ScottD> I can't get anyone to reply in #ubuntu so I figured I'd try here. I'm thinking about buying the new Dell XPS and I wanted to know if anyone had any trouble with Ubuntu on it.
[23:37] <head_victim> To be honest, the best way would probably be a google of the model number.,
[23:38] <head_victim> There are so many different options it's hard to give a blanket yes or no
[23:38] <ScottD> I can't find the exact model number anywhere :(
[23:38] <head_victim> Do you have a link?
[23:39] <ScottD> http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-17/fs
[23:39] <ScottD> The performance model with upgraded wifi and bluetooth
[23:40] <ScottD> These were just released in late october so
[23:40] <head_victim> the 6200 or 6250?
[23:40] <head_victim> wireless?
[23:40] <ScottD> 6250
[23:41] <ScottD> wait no, 6200
[23:41] <head_victim> And dell bluetooth 3.0?
[23:41] <ScottD> yes
[23:45] <head_victim> Hmm
[23:46] <ScottD> I just don't want to buy it and be stuck using Windows.
[23:50] <head_victim> ScottD: maybe email them for a specific model number, I can't seem to extract that off them either
[23:51] <ScottD> Okay. I'll call monday and see if I can get some more info. I might drop back by if I can't find anything on google.
[23:51] <head_victim> Sorry I can't be of more help, someone else might be able to if you hang around a little.
[23:51] <ScottD> It's okay. Thanks for trying. (: I'll idle :P
[23:56] <SPooN> scottD are you still here?
[23:56] <geirha> Chances are, most of the hardware will be supported. It won't hurt to ask dell how well this particular model works with linux.
[23:56] <ScottD> mhm
[23:56] <SPooN> if so, you can just pretend you are going through to the actual purchase of the XPS, and then hit specifications and the Wireless Card will be listed
[23:57] <SPooN> you can then crossreference that with ndiswrapper or the Broadcom-STA list
[23:58] <ScottD> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/dell-xps-17.png is all the hardware
[23:59] <SPooN> right, so from that you can see that it is INtel Centrino Advanced-N 6200....