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databitsanyone have any experience installing and configuring zenoss ?00:06
databitswould appreciate if someone could help me out with this zenoss configuration00:09
databitsI'm pretty sure I have it installed but it is not configured correctly00:09
databitsI tried going to the webportal and tomcat page is showing00:09
uvirtbotNew bug: #671676 in rabbitmq-server (main) "package rabbitmq-server 1.8.0-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script post-installation instalado devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67167600:11
databitscan anyone help me out with zenoss please00:58
* RoyK can't00:59
dclakeI'd be interested in zenoss as well01:11
grrHi, just installed ubuntu server on old hardware, ok. but on reboot, no video. holding shift gets me grub boot, then e for edit, what might I try to get video back?01:14
grrthat was 10.0401:15
grranyone?01:17
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qman__grr, try the nomodeset option02:12
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uvirtbotNew bug: #671727 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67172705:46
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kaushalhi06:03
kaushalcan some one please guide me about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-November/004806.html ?06:03
uvirtbotNew bug: #671733 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67173306:11
kaushalchecking in again for the query ?06:15
overriderId like to setup my 10.04 server to be my lan's router / firewall, connecting to the net via adsl / pppoe. Which of the many tools to use to configure the routing / firewalling part? Shorewall, guarddog, plain netfilter / ipchains? This Server has no GUI. Thanks for suggesting any simple but solid tool(s)...06:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #665235 in cloud-init (main) "attaching a volume to maverick instance may boot off it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66523506:56
kaushalAnybody around here ?07:03
k-radif you dont mind me asking, no help for this in #ubuntu it seems, i've got ubuntu enterprise cloud selected, my node however is not setup, and i will be using that .50/mo amazon cloud what i'm unsure of is which of the cloud computing selections at the top of sudo tasksel i will need, should i select everything except for node controller ?  could you run sudo tasksel yourself and lend me a hand at those top packages ?07:09
k-radthis is from sudo tasksel07:09
BuenGeniohello are there any builds of Dovecot 2 for ubuntu?07:23
kaushalchecking in again for the query07:35
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CromulentI'm banging my head against a wall here I followed this tutorial on 10.04 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew but no matter what I do no email messages seem to come back with the X-Spam-Status header set by Spamassassin09:39
skwashdtrying in here ... it seems more appropriate than #ubuntu09:40
skwashdi've got a 64 bit ubuntu lucid server which was upgraded 2 weeks ago from jaunty to karmic and today it was upgraded to lucid09:41
skwashdthe box is hanging at the point when udev should be starting09:41
skwashdkernel options at just rootdelay=60 to deal with timeout errors09:41
skwashdno splash or quiet options09:42
skwashdvirtual consoles aren't functional at this point either09:42
skwashdi forgot to mention ... the box is a dell PE r20009:43
skwashdi manually upgraded the filesystem to ext4 ... made no difference09:44
SAngeliwith a running server if I plug-in a serial device to the server (fax/modem) will it be detected or in order to do so the fax/modem must be connected and powered on before I power on the server?11:30
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kaushalhi13:56
kaushalcollectd: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped13:56
kaushalwhat does type of file mean ?13:56
SAngeliwith a running server if I plug-in a serial device to the server (fax/modem) will it be detected or in order to do so the fax/modem must be connected and powered on before I power on the server?14:00
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eagles0513875bug 67024614:57
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 670246 in roundcube "upgrade to latest stable version 0.4.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67024614:57
eagles0513875:)14:57
k-radgood day all15:03
k-radcould use your assistance, as you may be more skilled at this than the average desktop user.15:03
k-radneed failover for link aggregation to wlan0 and speed tweak recommendations   i am willing to pay anyone $10 if they can solve it for me :)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10080308#post1008030815:03
eagles0513875k-rad: are you running this on an ubuntu server server15:08
k-radeagles0513875, no sir, i'm using 64 bit ubuntu desktop15:09
eagles0513875ask in #ubuntu channel this is more for the server side of ubuntu15:09
k-radi tried ubuntu cloud enterprise last night, and fsck wanted to run on a readonly filesystem.  broke my heart.  i have amazon ec2 services free for 1 year, with a 50 cent charge fee for that15:09
k-radthank you eagles051387515:10
eagles0513875welcome k-rad15:10
k-radlast night when i tried ubuntu cloud enterprise, i installed it via sudo tasksel on a 32 bit ubuntu desktop system.  none of my fstab entries were read-only, however, i never got past the ubuntu splash screen15:11
k-radit wanted fsck on a read only filesystem. :(15:11
eagles0513875O_o15:12
eagles0513875not sure i never tried the could computing feature15:12
eagles0513875might end up doign that if i get my hands on another server15:12
_zoom_am preparing svn and apache server for our php developers, i need tool allow them to upload and test their codes, any ideas?15:13
jz_Hi everyone, I am trying to add mydns to load when my system boots.  Can anyone help me with this, please?15:15
eagles0513875_zoom_: i think for svn to commit to it a user needs an ssh key15:16
eagles0513875!svn | _zoom_15:16
ubottu_zoom_: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/15:16
eagles0513875!info svn15:16
ubottuPackage svn does not exist in maverick15:16
eagles0513875_zoom_: let me find the documentation for ya15:16
ScottKeagles0513875: The package is subversion15:17
eagles0513875!subversion | _zoom_15:17
ubottu_zoom_: subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion15:17
eagles0513875that link might provide you with some insite :)15:17
_zoom_ ubottu: am looking for a tool that helps developer to upload codes into apache server15:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:20
qman__I suggest using sftp/scp built into ssh15:21
qman__if you don't trust your devs, you can chroot them15:21
k-radeagles0513875, have you ever used amazon EC2 service before ?15:21
k-radeagles0513875, if its something you'd like to implement on a spare box, i'd love to get feedback from you on how to use amazon EC2 in order to supplement the computing power of a ubuntu desktop (i may run a web server here too)15:23
eagles0513875well right now im debating if i am going to build a 2nd machien and turn my current desktop into a server or not15:23
eagles0513875still havent quite understood the purpose of cloude computing and what exactly it does15:23
qman__in my personal opinion, it's a very niche thing15:24
qman__if you're struggling to find a use for it, it's probably not for you15:24
k-radeagles0513875, http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/10/free-ubuntu-server-for-year-at-amazon.html15:24
eagles0513875qman__: i just dont understand what its purpose is15:25
qman__high availability virtual appliances15:25
k-radi've used their services, but happened to have a spare email, and a sip number to my room for authentication, for 1 year, max they'll charge is .50 cents/mo.15:25
eagles0513875qman__: like virtual machines15:25
qman__yes15:26
qman__the benefit to the cloud system is that it handles distributing it across hardware automatically15:26
qman__if you have lots of VMs and lots of hardware, it makes your life easier15:26
eagles0513875humm something i might have to consider once i get a 2nd machine and will allow me to reformat and re do my server15:26
qman__you no longer have to pick which server to put your next VM on15:26
qman__it's very cool tech, I won't knock it for that15:27
k-radeagles0513875, if that is a project you'd consider engaging in, i'd love to be your buddy because i actually have a spare box that could contribute as a computing resource node for my primary box, and to be able to use those amazon EC2 computing services to maximize performance on my main machine, would be totally awesome15:27
qman__but "cloud computing" has become a huge buzzword15:27
qman__don't get sucked into thinking you need one just because it's the next big thing15:27
k-radqman__, is it anything like openmosix used to be ?15:27
qman__openmosix was quite different15:28
eagles0513875qman__: can do more with less so to speak15:28
qman__openmosix would allow you to split one big load over multiple machiens15:28
qman__cloud doesn't15:28
k-radopenmosix is something i'd like to accomplish with a spare box, facilitating resources to my main primary desktop.15:28
qman__it only allows you to distribute lots of loads across machines15:28
eagles0513875k-rad: your thinking of clustering15:28
k-radusing ubuntu.  is that possible ?15:28
eagles0513875which is used for rendering 3d animations for instance15:28
k-radeagles0513875, indeed i am.  i'd love to do that with ubuntu15:28
eagles0513875me 215:29
qman__cloud is only useful if you are running lots of separate VMs15:29
eagles0513875i might be able to get my hands on some old p2s15:29
eagles0513875qman__: im really considering splitting upmy server across multiple vms15:29
k-radeagles0513875, and it'd be even greater, if we could add the amazon over the net resources to whatever it is we use our computers for.  for me, its my personal desktop15:29
qman__if you have one heavy project you want to distribute, you probably want a beowulf cluster15:29
eagles0513875atm one server running everything from mysql to apache and eventually email15:29
eagles0513875qman__: haha ya im on that mailing list15:29
eagles0513875k-rad: distributed computing15:30
k-radi only run 1 vm and that is for windows 7 and itunes.  itunes for a rare track here and there, and thats it.15:30
qman__of course, the cost of powering a bunch of PIIs is a lot more than just buying a sempron that can outperform the lot15:30
k-radand audiobooks15:30
k-radits got audible.com15:30
eagles0513875qman__: true but i can get them for free from one of my lecturers lol15:30
eagles0513875brb switching to desktop15:30
qman__openmosix was a very cool idea, it's a shame that it died off15:31
qman__that's what most people think of when they are told about "the cloud", but that's not what it is15:31
k-radqman__, i've got a dual core pentium-d presler clocked stock at 3.4ghz, it has gigabit ethernet, and 4gb of ddr2 800 memory and a 320GB drive.  can i cluster that to my primary desktop ubuntu box for additional power awesomeness15:31
eagles0513875qman__: does ubuntu server contain the necessary clustering software like mpi and other things15:31
eagles0513875im on a core2 quad q9550 at 2,83 ghz15:31
qman__documentation is scarce on it15:32
qman__last I looked into it, all the info was several years out of date and inconsistent15:32
eagles0513875humm qman__ would it be possible to put together a team to possibly create an ubuntu server clustering version15:32
eagles0513875qman__: if im not mistaken there is mp215:32
eagles0513875mpi215:32
eagles0513875thats replaced15:32
eagles0513875brb on desktop15:32
qman__the projects are there but implementing it on ubuntu is some kind of voodoo that no one wants to share15:32
k-radqman__, why do you suspect that is ?15:33
qman__a documentation project on it is a good idea15:33
eagles0513875qman__: i think i have k-rad and u but i bet i can drum up support from the beowulf mailing list15:33
eagles0513875lots of experts15:33
qman__not enough people doing it, I guess15:33
eagles0513875beowulf cluster has lots15:33
eagles0513875brb on desktop15:33
k-radwonderful eagles0513875 could you make a post, and forward a few relevant clustering for ubuntu emails that would be what i needed to know, and have you email them to me ?15:34
k-radto what aim is ubuntu enterprise cloud different and similar to linux clustering ?15:35
eagles0513875qman__: i would like to see if there is interest in an ubuntu  derived clustering version15:36
k-radhi eagles051387515:36
eagles0513875k-rad: back15:36
k-radwonderful eagles0513875 could you make a post, and forward a few relevant clustering for ubuntu emails that would be what i needed to know, and have you email them to me ?15:36
k-radto what aim is ubuntu enterprise cloud different and similar to linux clustering ?15:36
eagles0513875k-rad: dont have any off the beowulf list15:36
k-radwouldn't it be cool if you could do ubuntu clustering on ubuntu enterprise cloud if amazon EC2 does actually provide processing, resources power to a host15:37
eagles0513875?15:37
eagles0513875kinda lost me on that one15:37
k-radeagles0513875, might you be able to post one, and email me back and see if you hear anything ?15:37
eagles0513875qman__: coudl i use the cloud in conjunction with vbox for instance15:37
eagles0513875k-rad: i would join the list cuz that way you can explain better its free to join15:38
eagles0513875qman__: i mean phpvbox15:38
k-radi'll do that thank you15:38
eagles0513875welcome15:38
eagles0513875ill see u on the list :)15:38
qman__clustering uses multiple hardware devices to accomplish a single task with more power15:38
k-radhow much is canonical support through email for 3 days ?15:38
qman__cloud just manages lots of virtual machines efficiently15:38
eagles0513875qman__: can i use the cloud with phpvbox for instance or would i have problems15:38
qman__I don't really know what phpvbox is, so I can't say15:39
qman__but, for example15:39
eagles0513875its the web based front end of virtualbox15:39
qman__that probably wouldn't work15:40
eagles0513875ok15:40
qman__I'm pretty sure UEC uses KVM as the backend15:40
qman__so you'd need a KVM/qemu compatible frontend15:40
qman__but don't take my word on that, I don't know for sure15:41
eagles0513875!cloud15:41
eagles0513875does the bot have any links15:42
qman__!uec15:42
qman__maybe not15:42
qman__!kvm15:42
ubottukvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM15:42
eagles0513875i still have yet to understand why ubuntu doesnt support xen15:42
eagles0513875even though its still in debian repos15:43
qman__well, they simply got behind KVM15:43
qman__for better or worse, that's what happened15:43
eagles0513875ya15:44
highvoltageanyone is welcome to maintain xen in universe though15:44
eagles0513875isnt kvm more software based like virtual box15:44
qman__KVM takes advantage of hardware virtualization but doesn't necessarily require it15:44
eagles0513875ok15:44
qman__though it's much slower without it15:44
* eagles0513875 is learning alot today15:44
qman__unfortunately the only machine I have to toy with virtualization which has hardware support is my laptop15:45
qman__this desktop is an older chip, 939 opteron15:45
eagles0513875only one is my monster desktop im on atm15:45
eagles0513875775 core2 quad here15:46
eagles0513875i think might build myself a new i7 desktop and make this one a server15:46
eagles0513875and try out uec15:46
qman__I have a phenom II box, but that one's "The Windows Box"15:46
eagles0513875i have 2 drives on this pc15:47
eagles0513875500gb win 715:47
eagles05138752tb lucid15:47
eagles0513875now i see why they went with kvm15:47
eagles0513875easier for users to work with15:47
qman__xen was quite a headache if you didn't know what you were doing15:47
qman__but with the same kind of effort, they could have made it user friendly15:47
eagles0513875ya tell me bout it15:47
eagles0513875im wondering if i could work wiht the xen-tools team on that15:48
eagles0513875gah i hate flash15:49
qman__agree15:49
jz_Can anyone please help me add mydns to start on system startup15:49
qman__it uses 100% of a core on this machine just to watch youtube videos15:49
qman__jz_, you could just add it to rc.local, and it'd work, but it wouldn't be the _right_ way15:50
qman__I think update-rc.d still works15:50
eagles0513875qman__: flash is crashing firefox left right and centr and i have a number of tabs open with it15:50
eagles0513875lol woohoo viva 24% ram usage out of 8gb15:51
qman__eagles0513875, I stopped using firefox because it single-handedly dragged my entire system to a crawl, with flash and java both disabled15:51
eagles0513875tbh i can live with it maybe cuz i have 8gb of ram on my system but im glad that at least apple isnt using flash any more15:51
qman__it wasn't about RAM, it introduced significant UI lag15:52
qman__my whole computer is leagues faster now that I use epiphany and chromium15:52
jz_qman__: why wouldn't it be the right way?15:54
qman__jz_, because it doesn't really install it as a service, it just runs it once at boot15:54
qman__it's a hack15:54
qman__if that's okay with you, go ahead15:54
jz_I'd rather add it as a service if possible15:55
qman__I know how to do it with sysvinit, but I don't know upstart that well15:55
qman__so with lucid, I'd have to do a lot of reading15:55
qman__pretty sure upstart still runs sysvinit style scripts, so you could still do it that way15:56
eagles0513875anyone try mysql workbench?15:57
qman__put the script in /etc/init.d/, then update-rc.d to set it15:57
eagles0513875on lucid or otherwise?15:57
SAngelican someone please advice me on a good artice for setting up a solid, stable and reliable NAS server under ubuntu server? I need an alternative to the nice work FreeNAS has done because I also need to install Hylafax and am unable to do so under FreeNAS15:58
qman__SAngeli, if you're using something like iSCSI that's outside my expertise, but simple things like samba or NFS file sharing I can do16:00
qman__the first place you should always check is the ubuntu server guide16:01
garymcCould anyone help me create a cron job?16:01
SAngeliI need to setup a RAID 1 and then iSCSI. but to start I wish to find a well detailed article on how to set up a NAS server, get RAID up and running, check health of the RAID, set up alarms if RAID fails,.. Then I will look for iSCSI article16:01
qman__SAngeli, RAID is built into the partitioner, quite easy to set up16:02
jz_qman__: thanks for your help.  it worked16:02
qman__as for emails on failure, I don't know if they're in there by default but it's also not that hard to set up16:02
SAngeliI have been looking for a detailed article on Internet and did not find any.16:03
qman__though I did notice when I set a RAID up in the partitioner on a 10.04 install recently, it installed postfix16:03
SAngeliI wish first need to read and understand the steps16:03
SAngelias for FreeNAS that tells you all about it so I can read and discern16:03
qman__well, FreeNAS is very single-purposed, where ubuntu server is more general purposed, so a comprehensive guide for that particular setup is going to be harder to find16:04
SAngeliyea, I noticed this.16:05
qman__for RAID information, see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html16:05
SAngeliis it reliable and stable?16:05
qman__ubuntu in general? yes, as long as you stick to LTS versions16:06
qman__lucid has most of the bugs worked out by now16:07
SAngeliis it a good idea to install webmin on top of it?16:07
qman__no16:07
qman__!webmin16:07
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.16:07
eagles0513875webmin from what i have red has lots of security vulnerabilities16:07
SAngeliok16:07
SAngeliis there a GUI or WEB application that help an admin to manage the server, see RAID status, ...... ?16:08
eagles0513875SAngeli: there is commandline mdadm that will help u with raid stuff16:08
eagles0513875!mdadm16:08
SAngeliok16:08
SAngeligot it16:08
eagles0513875ok wait16:08
eagles0513875thats not right bah qman__ help whats the command line command to check raid isnt it mdadm or somethign like that16:09
SAngeliI will tray with ubuntu server and command line all the way through. Hope I will be able to manage it16:09
qman__mdadm is the command tool, but checking RAID status is done by doing `cat /proc/mdstat`16:10
SAngelithis will be a production server for storage. Hope will be able to accomplish as FreeNAS outcome16:10
SAngelithe end result is that it works16:10
eagles0513875qman__: thanks :) havent messed with mdadm in a while and i wasnt sure if that was right16:10
qman__while I don't use iSCSI, I've been using ubuntu as a file server for over two years16:11
qman__raid6 + hot spare16:11
SAngelidid you interface it with vmware and/or Active Domain windows server?16:11
qman__it emails me SMART info and mdadm warnings16:11
qman__no, it's just a simple file server16:11
SAngeliI see16:11
qman__samba and NFS16:11
SAngeliI believe I do not have to go through vmware for using it with other servers.16:12
eagles0513875qman__: might need you to help me setup something like that16:12
SAngeliis samba used to interface my NAS with Active Directory of microsoft windows server?16:12
eagles0513875SAngeli: yes16:12
SAngeliok16:13
SAngeliI will be doing some more readings16:13
eagles0513875to interface or have any file sharing capabilities with linux samba is what you need16:13
eagles0513875linux to linux you need NFS16:13
qman__reminds me, I need to upgrade my router16:13
qman__it's running jaunty, which reached end of life about a week ago16:13
eagles0513875lol qman__using ddwrt?16:13
SAngeliqman__, could you also be so kind to identify for me, just because you already know, the correct articles for enabling "email SMART info and mdadm warnings" ?16:13
eagles0513875wtf what router are you running where you can run ubuntu server on it and what do you have configured on it16:13
qman__SAngeli, best place to start is postfix in the server guide16:14
qman__I configured one mail server to use gmail, I can link an article in a bit16:14
qman__and then I configured the rest of the servers to use that one as a smarthost16:14
SAngeliok16:14
qman__eagles0513875, it's an athlon X2 4050e with four NICs16:15
eagles0513875qman__: will you help me with that cuz im having issues with postfix16:15
eagles0513875oh a desktop you turned into a router16:15
SAngelipostfix or sendmail would be similar, right? qman__16:15
qman__sendmail is, in my opinion, archaic and difficult, and it is also not a supported mail server16:16
qman__postfix and exim are the ubuntu-supported options16:16
SAngeliwould it be sufficient to use a 4GB HD for ubuntu server, raid functionality for two SATA HD, fax server and mail server?16:16
qman__yes16:16
SAngeliit is a SSD HD IDE HD16:16
SAngeliok, thank you16:16
qman__a stock ubuntu server install is only going to use ~800MB16:16
qman__I would recommend at least 2GB16:16
qman__but as for the mail server16:17
SAngeliqman__, if you remer or know of any good link for server setup please MSG me please I will keep in mind and read it. I wish to have some good articles as guidance. I plan on installing ubuntu server 10.10 x64 as server16:17
qman__I used gmail but any way you have your mail server sending email is fine16:17
qman__the 'client' servers, the ones forwarding mail to it, are very easy to set16:17
SAngeliqman__, mail servre will not store emails. It is just for the server itself and perhaps as SMTP server. nothing else16:18
qman__just choose 'smarthost' option when installing postfix, and point it to your real mail server16:18
qman__I recommend against using 10.10, as it is not an LTS version and will reach end of life very quickly16:18
qman__use 10.04.1 LTS instead16:18
eagles0513875qman__: will you help me out when i get back16:19
qman__sure16:19
eagles0513875with dovecot+postfix config16:19
eagles0513875dovecot works postfix dont for me16:19
SAngeliI never understoo this. why when you someone tries to dowload server it only gives you 10.10 rather than 10.04.1 LTS?16:19
eagles0513875i can recieve incoming email but not send any outgoing form my server16:19
SAngeliqman__, what is the reason for being 10.10 the Latest versino? What is the purpose of posting it? Can I understand?16:20
qman__SAngeli, on the download page (here: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download ), you have to click the drop-down and choose 10.0416:20
eagles0513875not sure what im doing wrong qman__ im following the wiki tutorials on how to configure them16:20
qman__10.10 is cutting edge, newest versions of software16:20
qman__for a production environment, not usually the best choice16:21
SAngeliqman__, sure. I noticed. but will it become later on LTS?16:21
qman__10.04 will have longer support and will stick to mager versions16:21
qman__no16:21
qman__ubuntu's release cycle is every 6 months16:21
qman__the LTS releases are every 2 years16:21
SAngeliso what is the correct discernment?16:21
qman__what you're looking for in a system16:22
SAngelilet's say I install 10.10 What would happend in 1 year from now?16:22
qman__if you want the latest and greatest versions, and you don't mind bugs or updating frequently, you want the regular releases16:22
SAngeliI see16:22
qman__if you want a more stable platform that changes less frequently, you want the LTS versions16:22
qman__example, 9.04's support ended a couple weeks ago16:23
qman__that was a non-LTS version16:23
SAngeliI see16:23
qman__but 8.04's support is continuing for quite a while yet16:23
qman__because that's an LTS version16:23
qman__even though it's a year older than 9.0416:23
SAngeliso, what will happend when 10.04.1 LTS will end support? Will 10.10 be the next version?16:23
qman__no16:23
qman__the next version to 10.04 LTS will be 12.04 LTS16:24
qman__direct upgrade16:24
SAngeliok16:24
qman__and there will be plenty of support overlap between the two versions16:24
qman__lots of time to test and perform the upgrade16:24
SAngeliso, what is the purpose of releasing 10.10 or other releases without LTS? Just for testings?16:25
qman__testing, less demanding situations, and using newer cutting edge software16:25
SAngelilast question: when you say: "using newer cutting edge software" you refer to the OS or to the applications?16:25
qman__both16:26
qman__10.04 shipped with certain major versions of software16:26
qman__over the course of the support cycle, those major versions will not change, only the minor versions and security patches16:26
SAngeliso, if I wish to install the latest version of hylafax as an example I could endup not being able to do so with 10.04.1 LTS ?16:26
qman__yes, depending on how old the latest version is16:27
qman__and whether or not it's backported16:27
qman__for example, 8.04 LTS used PHP 5.216:27
qman__the main repositories still run 5.2 on 8.04, they did not upgrade to 5.3 because there are major functional changes16:28
qman__they simply run the latest security updates to 5.216:28
qman__since 10.04 is not that old, right now the discrepancies will be very narrow if at all16:29
SAngelithis is what ubuntu port says: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=maverick&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=hylafax-server   this is what Hylafax says: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Download   ubuntu is at 6.0.4  Hylafax current release is version 6.0.5.16:29
qman__but 10.04 will not continue to get the latest versions of everything16:29
qman__well, that search is for maverick, which is 10.1016:30
SAngeliI see, what is the port for 10.04.1 LTS?16:30
qman__the latest version for 10.04 is 2:6.0.3-5.1ubuntu116:31
qman__so looks like 6.0.3 with ubuntu specific patches16:33
SAngeliwow even older16:34
SAngeliif I would need anyway latest release 6.0.5 what would I need to do?16:34
qman__you would have to add hylafax's repository to your system16:36
qman__they have 6.0.5 on there16:37
qman__as instructed here: http://code.highrise.ca/apt/16:37
qman__you'd add the following line to your sources.list16:37
qman__deb deb http://code.highrise.ca/apt/ lucid hf-6.016:38
qman__err16:38
qman__deb http://code.highrise.ca/apt/ lucid hf-6.016:38
SAngeliso not a bit issue16:41
SAngeliI see16:41
SAngeliqman__, I wish to thank you for now for all the answers you provided me with.16:41
SAngeliI will think and read a bit about what we discussed.16:41
qman__note that doing so would not be supported by ubuntu, you'd have to rely on hylafax for updates and help with that version16:41
qman__no problem16:41
SAngeliIf I need additional help I will aks further.16:41
SAngelitake care now.16:41
SAngeli:-)16:42
k-radanyone here have experience using the oslr package in ubuntu ?  i was told it would solve my bonding failsafe fallover problem16:57
k-radand i realize thats unrelated to servers, though perhaps, sometimes utilized ?16:57
k-radthere are no ubuntu how-to's on OSLR16:58
k-radand no useful posts on ubuntuforums.org16:58
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amarcolinoHi can someone suggest ways fo me to identify what is going on my network, denyhosts keeps blocking localhost and the machines I use for ssh, I would like to find out what causes it to trigger a block, the log gives no information on why the machine(s) keep getting blocked17:20
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eagles0513875hey guys im back17:44
ehcahAnyone out there prefer Ubuntu Serer to pre-packaged NAS like OpenFIler or FreeNAS or unRAID?18:00
eagles0513875k/j workbench18:07
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eagles0513875qman__: hey you busy right now19:11
cjmaynar_hey, so this question isn't really specific to ubuntu server, more in regards to servers in general. i own a domain, and i've setup a subdomain on it to forward to home home ip address, from there i've got my server running. It's all good and swell, except for after i go to home.domain.com it directs me to jsut my ip address. i was wondering how to go about keeping the subdomain/domain in the url?19:47
databitshey does anyone here know of a good webbased irc client I can embed on my website ?20:03
databitsI was thinking flash would probably be the best route for this20:03
eagles0513875databits: there is the one of freenode you can imbed i think20:09
eagles0513875i think its qwebirc20:09
databitswell I am trying to find one a client that will load up with no security issues on the browser but is really cool at the same time20:19
databitsya dig20:19
databits;)20:19
eagles0513875databits: thats the only one i know of and recommend20:22
eagles0513875there is also a java based irc web chat forgot what its called20:23
databitswhat language based is the qwebirc ?20:23
eagles0513875not sure20:28
eagles0513875databits: ajax based irc20:28
eagles0513875http://qwebirc.org/20:28
eagles0513875databits: woudl that work for ya20:38
databitsworking on configuring the client right now20:42
databitsI'm about to find out20:42
databits:)20:42
databitsthanks20:42
_Techie_databits, qwebirc is python based20:44
_Techie_and very astheticaly pleasing20:44
_Techie_i have one hooked up to my BNC and its never failed me20:44
databitscool shit20:50
databitsok how do I go about compiling the files ?20:50
databitsthis compiling is all new to me20:50
guntbert!language | databits20:50
ubottudatabits: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:50
guntbert!enter | databits20:51
ubottudatabits: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:51
databitssorry20:51
databits•Run compile.py to generate the HTML, minify the Javascript/CSS and copy everything to the correct locations | this is what the documentation is stating | I'm not sure how to go about doing this task20:52
guntbertdatabits: :)20:52
_Techie_start with python compile.py20:53
databitsok looks like I need to install twisted first20:53
_Techie_and then move it to where you feel comfortable having, eg ~/qwebirc/ or /etc/qweirc/20:53
databitsis this going to be running off my webserver or is this going to be a seperate instance ? also should I be able to do a "sudo apt-get install twisted" ?20:54
_Techie_it will run in a seperate instance as it has its own built in webserver that works extremely well20:55
databitsallrighty cool20:55
_Techie_if your feeling daring, you can also use libapache2-mod-proxy to map it to a sub domain20:55
_Techie_that way you can have it use SSL20:56
_Techie_and be accessible behind restrictive firewalls20:56
eagles0513875_Techie_: is that how you do subdomains with apache or could you do aliases or that wont really work if you want a subdomain20:56
_Techie_eagles0513875, if i have something that maps to a port, i use the apache proxy module to have  subdomain to transparantly redirect traffic inside my network or over loopback20:57
eagles0513875ahh20:58
databits<_Techie_>: for right now I just want to get everything up and running20:58
eagles0513875databits: use tab to complete a name20:58
eagles0513875type in da then tab to complete yoru name20:58
eagles0513875or eagl then tab to complete mine20:58
eagles0513875it bring up the txt ur sending to that person in red20:58
_Techie_eagles0513875, colour depends on client20:59
databitswhat is the rename command ?20:59
_Techie_mv21:00
databitsBareword "config" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. Bareword "py" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. Bareword "txt" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.21:01
databitswhat does this mean ?21:01
_Techie_no clue21:02
_Techie_i would suggest you start using google21:02
claydhow do make it so that when someone uploads a file via FTP the file gets permisions for the user and the group.  For example on a web server.21:23
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databitsthe file should automaticly take the default permissions for the user that the ftp is logged in by21:29
databitsor do you have anon loggin enabled ?21:29
claydno i am using a user.  but you have pointed me in the right direction.  I was thinking it was vsftpd.  How do i set the default permission for a user?21:33
claydso this is wierd.  when i creat a file from the command promt is gets the permissions 644 but when i upload one over ftp it gets 60021:36
claydi cant figure out what is causing this difference21:36
TeTeTclayd: check the docs for vsftpd and see how to set the umask for new uploads21:59
claydjust fnding that.  but thank you.22:00
databitssorry I was in the other room | I had kinda a similar issue | I used ACL to take care of my problem22:00
claydwha is ACL?22:01
RoAkSoAxw/in 722:14
databitsclayd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list22:20
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data_bitswarning: hg: unable to execute (using a random id). I changed some options in the config file of the ircd-ircu so I can access the config engine from a remote machine instead of the default default host22:57
data_bitsI tried to recompile the software and it is giving me that error "warning: hg: unable to execute (using a random id)."22:57
data_bitsdoes anyone have any idea's with this issue ?23:04
osmosisany suggestions on how I could get help with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/66804223:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 668042 in libvirt "target device info is not in dumpxml" [Low,New]23:08
osmosisIt would be nice if launchpad had a bounty system.23:13

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