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hellslingeranyone know how to install kubuntu netbook on existing ubuntu/kubuntu?00:49
smwhellslinger, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-netbook00:51
smwhellslinger, I know it works with ubuntu-netbook00:52
hellslingeryeah, it does00:53
hellslingerunfortunately it doesn't show up in the startup session list when I do it for kubuntu netbook00:53
nbndscan i upgrade kde in 10.04.01 to 4.5.3?01:09
nbndsor should i?01:09
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twiztedklownubuntu kubunt03:49
twiztedklownabazab u my onley friend03:50
poyntzhow's Kubuntu 10.1 compare to 10.04 for ya?03:50
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poyntzanyone know how to stop specific updates so i can do a distro upgrade?03:52
kkathmanDoes anyone know how to set the desktop effects "Cube" to move using keyboard keys as opposed to the mouse?03:53
kkathmanAhh ok got it04:07
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* Thibit wonders if anyone knows how to have widgets added to the Desktop activity when using the Netbook Plasma Desktop04:46
ThibitThe widget bar isn't showing when I request it to04:47
jmichaelxanyone else having audio issues in 10.10 using intel HD audio? in amarok, my sound cuts out briefly once every several minutes.05:02
collabra10.10 doesn't register my intel HD audio.... I went back to 10.04 lts when it registered a generic audio driver,... among other what i would consider 'major' bugs...05:04
jmichaelxcollabra: is this more an ubuntu-wide issue, or is this more specific to kubuntu users?05:05
collabrai dont know the extent of the issue,... but, kubuntu does use the ubuntu repos05:05
jmichaelxcollabra: IMO, maverick has a whole crop of major bugs. worse release for me in several years05:05
jmichaelxcollabra: well, i know it uses ubuntu repos.... what i am asking is whether or not these issues exist when not using KDE and KDE apps.... to me, phonon is suspect in all of this05:06
collabrajmichaelx: well,... other than audio,... i had to manually restart compiz every login,... and some program crashed every login as well, giving me a 'crash handler' execution05:07
jmichaelxcollabra: why did you feel the need to use compiz in KDE?05:07
collabrajmichaelx: don't know,... but i was 'very' disapointed,...05:07
collabrajmichaelx: why use compiz,... cause' it's part of the default install,... kubuntu.05:08
collabraand i like eye candy05:08
jmichaelxcollabra: ok, that is not compiz.05:08
collabrajmichaelx: no,...?05:08
jmichaelxcollabra: that is Kwin's native compositing management05:08
collabrajmichaelx: isn't it some part of compiz05:08
jmichaelxno, that isn't compiz05:09
collabrajmichaelx: ahh,...05:09
collabrakwin,... has major problems on my system,...05:09
collabrain 10.10 of course05:09
jmichaelxcollabra: you CAN use compiz with KDE... some people do it, but i cannot understand how or why it would be worth the trouble05:09
collabraahh,.. the reason you asked me... :)05:10
jmichaelxyea05:10
collabrajmichaelx: yeah... 10.10 was released too early05:11
jmichaelxcollabra: it can definitely be a bit confusing05:11
jmichaelxcollabra: something sure went wrong05:11
collabrajmichaelx: i'll be weary of future releases05:11
jmichaelxcollabra: it's all dependent on what hardware one is using... there are always some regressions to contend with, but i have had problems with 10.10 on a variety of different machines05:12
collabrajmichaelx: it would be nice to think the 'newest' in programming would be relatively stable,... not in my case,... but, i'm really loving 10.04lts and will continue to be a big fan05:12
collabrajmichaelx: it's stable and i have a good deal of faith in it as a good platform for just about anything05:13
jmichaelxcollabra: there are several areas with linux where each step "forward" is just a roll of the dice.... particularly with video, audio and wireless05:13
jmichaelxit is the greatest weakness linux has05:13
jmichaelxpeople can deal with knowing certain hardware does not work... but when it works in one version of a distro, but not the next, then works again in the next, but again not in the next.... this is very common, and EXTREMELY frustrating05:14
collabrajmichaelx: yeah,...i've used alot of distros,... but have always come back to kubuntu 10.04 lts05:15
collabrafor me it's the easiest to use,... stable,... as far as i know, secure, fun to administer,... not to mention people's reaction as i show them the best rival to microsoft05:16
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GrimaceXLHey, guys I have an issue with a fresh install of kubuntu 10.10, my wireless wont scan and the light for it on my notebook wont come on. running  iwlist scan says the network is down, but when i try to  wlan0 up it says no such file or directory, can anyone assist me?05:20
GrimaceXLThanks in advance05:20
GrimaceXLbcm4311 for the network card, btw05:21
faustusah, if anyone has bcm43 questions, i just toiled on it for 4 days with good results05:21
collabralol05:22
faustusdoes anyony know how to set up dual monitors on an older radeon card?05:22
faustusmodel 7000 to be exact. all i can get is the default mirroring05:22
GrimaceXLgood to hear faustus05:22
GrimaceXLsorry it took 4 days05:22
faustusand for the record, i did it with fwcutter, not the other one05:22
faustuseveryone debates fwcutter or.... whatever it's called05:23
GrimaceXLso faustus, on a fresh install of mavmeerkat, are drivers installed for this device (sorry linux newb)05:24
GrimaceXLto clarify what im asking is, is it a question of drivers, or is something else a matter here/05:24
faustusi don't know the build names.  i just installed kubuntu 10.14 or wahtever it is05:24
GrimaceXLok well latest stable build on kubuntu.com is 10.1005:25
GrimaceXLso i got that05:25
faustusi have a bcm4306 and on a fresh install of kubuntu, i installed fwcutter and then activated the drivers in the driver manager05:25
faustus10.10 it is then05:25
GrimaceXLI did so after the install of winxp got auto exploited and tried to install malware (made mebutthurt)05:25
GrimaceXLok is there a deb package for fwcutter?05:26
faustusall i did on a fresh install was sudo install fwcutter or whatever...05:26
faustusi don't know the command, but you get the jist05:26
faustusonce that was installed i activated the driver in the driver management program05:26
GrimaceXLkewl05:26
GrimaceXLsounds easier than wireless was back in... '0705:26
faustuswith the pages and pages i read on the net, it's must easier than anyone makes it sound05:26
hellslingerdoes anyone know how to execute scripts after resuming from suspend? I've heard that having someting handle "suspend or thaw commands in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ would do it but I haven't had any luck (maverick)05:27
GrimaceXLok yeah i tried ubuntu back in the day, i ended up ragequitting on account of wireless woes05:27
faustusoh.. i'm having problems maintainging my resolution settings on restart05:27
faustusit always resets on restat05:27
faustusrestart05:27
hellslingerGrimaceXL: Yeah... thats where I am too05:28
GrimaceXLi also had your issue with radeon cards too05:28
faustusyou think at this point in the build, old issues would be resolved05:28
GrimaceXLbut my information is blurry and dated, so im going to keep my info to myself05:28
faustustried kubuntu months ago and display worked and wireless didn't. now it's vice versa05:28
GrimaceXLyeah im sorry to be retarded but how do i install fwcutter05:30
GrimaceXLim kinda inept with anything beyond installing packages and it appears theres no package for fwcutter05:31
faustussudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter05:32
faustusonce you install that and activate the driver it will ask you to restart, in which case you should be good after the restart05:32
GrimaceXLunable to locate b43-fwcutter05:33
faustusdude it's not a dumb question.05:33
faustushm05:33
mrcreativityi cant believe how hard it is to add a shortcut to the desktop folder05:33
faustushave you tried many other things?05:33
GrimaceXL@mrcreativity ugh, now try to allign them to a grid05:33
faustusi had to reinstall kubuntu first05:33
faustuscuz i had tried other stuff05:33
GrimaceXLno just started05:33
mrcreativitythats a whole other story05:33
GrimaceXLfresh install05:33
GrimaceXLhey were u trying to compare fwcutter to ndiswrapper05:34
GrimaceXLbut forgot what it was called05:34
faustusyeah05:35
faustusi did it without ndiswrapper05:35
faustussee if you need to download fwcutter before install05:35
GrimaceXLyeah faustus, apparantly sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter is supposed to work but my install says it cant find it05:36
faustusi still haven't grasped the difference between downloading and installing versus just installing05:36
GrimaceXLam i supposed to add some secret ninja repositories before it will work05:36
faustushmmmm05:36
faustusis this the computer with linux? or are you chatting on another computer05:36
collabraGrimaceXL: it might be in the 'partner' repos...? 10.04 does list b43-fwcutter05:37
GrimaceXLyes05:37
GrimaceXLthis is it05:37
GrimaceXLfuuuuuuu..... it does05:37
GrimaceXLhow do i determine if it is in the partner repos05:38
collabraGrimaceXL: you activate the partner repos, update, and search for fwcutter,...lol.05:39
collabralol,... i dunno.05:40
jmichaelxhmm, i am having audio cut out on me using intel hd audio and amarok 2.3.2 in kubuntu 10.10... but right now, i am playing music in 'moc', and i am not experiencing any audio problems there....05:41
jmichaelxseems like the problem must be with amarok, phonon or pulseaudio05:42
faustusso does anyone know how to maintain resolution settings on a radeon 7000 card?05:43
collabrajmichaelx: under sytem setting>Multimedia,... does it list your intel hardware,.... coz, that was another reason for switching back to 10.04 for me,... 1010 only listed a generic audio driver05:44
faustus(on 10.10)05:45
jmichaelxcollabra: all that is listed for my in my phonon settings is 'internal audio analog stereo'05:45
jmichaelxfor me*05:45
jmichaelxfaustus: what resolution are you needing?05:45
faustusthe second from the top05:45
collabrayeah,... me too,... my intel hd audio drivers were not loading...  and yes i think i remember having issues related to bad audio05:46
faustusmy monitor supports up to 1680x105005:46
jmichaelxfaustus: second from the top? i would have no idea what is second from the top for you05:46
faustusthat's what it is on windows05:46
faustusand the ideal setting for the monitor05:46
jmichaelxfaustus: i think you should be able to get that resolution, although you will have no desktop effects with that card05:47
GrimaceXLgood work guys i uncommented the partner repos and shes downloading05:47
jmichaelxcollabra: i think i may need to look into just ditching pulseaudio05:48
collabraGrimaceXL: you mean i was actually right,... geeze, it was a shot in the dark.05:48
faustusi do have desktop effects05:48
faustusi have most the effects05:49
faustusit's just the resolution resets to default when i restart the computer05:49
jmichaelxfaustus: if you are using a radeon 7000, i cannot imagine that you could possibly have desktop effects... unless you use a very low resolution05:49
faustusit's not horribly low. can't think of what it is off the top of my head05:50
jmichaelxfaustus: which version of kubuntu are you using?05:50
faustus10.10 (most recent)05:50
faustusi get explode, and the wavy window when you move it option05:50
faustuswiggle, or whatever05:50
jmichaelxfaustus: ok, got to 'system settings' and select 'display and monitor'05:50
jmichaelxfaustus: i am impressed then05:50
jmichaelxgo to*05:51
faustusthen what?05:51
faustusi know i've been there, in that window05:51
jmichaelxfaustus: you should see a selection right there for resolution05:52
faustusright. keep in mind i have 2 monitors, one dvi and one vga05:52
jmichaelxfaustus: are they both working?05:52
faustusthe vga one is small and old and i leave it where it is. the dvi i boost up a bit05:52
faustusthey both work but they're mirrored when i want them to be individual like in windows05:52
jmichaelxfaustus: sure, but still, this is where you manage the settings for your displays... no matter how many you have05:53
faustusso what next?05:53
jmichaelxfaustus: like i said, this is where your resolution settings are05:53
faustusok. and when i change them they return to default when i restart.05:54
jmichaelxfaustus: do you click 'apply', then save the settings when prompted?05:54
faustusyeah.05:54
faustusit's a problem i've seen on the forums, but can't find a workable, definitive answer.05:55
jmichaelxfaustus: hmm. you may need to create an xorg.conf in that case.... i am not sure why it would not save the settings you have given it05:55
faustusok, that sounds familiar to what i've read.  but where is that file and what do i change?05:55
jmichaelxfaustus: i cannot tell you exactly what to do, but it will probably involve you needing to to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:56
faustusi'm also fairly new, so how do i go about that?05:56
jmichaelxfaustus: what to put there, especially for a dual monitor setup, i do not know... it would be best if you could copy an xorg.conf from someone who has one that is working with that card05:57
faustusoh man. i've seen things posted that are models close to my card, but not mine specifically05:57
jmichaelxfaustus: i would ask in the forums for an example of a working xorg.conf for a a radeon 7000 for kubuntu 10.10.... i imagine someone will respond if you are able to possibly wait a day or two05:58
jmichaelxfaustus: if i get the time, i might put a radeon 7000 in a spare box here, and see if i cannot figure it out.... if i do, i will try to get it posted to the forums05:59
faustushow does this look?06:01
faustushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver06:01
faustuswould you by chance be able to email me?  i don't have subscriptions to most the forums and not a lot of free time.06:01
faustusi've been using mostly google, because i imagine they are pretty common problems06:02
jmichaelxfaustus: i cannot guarantee that i will have time... but i have a feeling that the docs you linked me to would give some very good idea.... if i do find the time, iwll try to make a fresh forum post on configuring radeon 7000 in maverick06:04
jmichaelxfaustus: i am also often in here late evenings (eastern time, US)06:05
grimaceHey guys, collabra and faustus, thanks for the help, im on wireless now...06:05
collabragrimace: congrats!,... that's bad ass.06:05
grimaceIts actually wasn't too hard, and I learnt something.06:05
grimacei just dont get why partner repos arent enabled by default06:06
grimaceis it because kubuntu doesnt want to support partner packages06:06
collabragrimace: i think that partner repos are under different copyright or opensource policies06:07
grimaceoic06:07
jmichaelxgrimace: partner repos are never enabled by default, because they contain packages with non-free licenses06:07
grimaceWell i was asked a similar question upon install and i said yes to allowing copywritten drivers06:08
jmichaelxgrimace: hmm, i would have assumes that would have enabled those repos, but i am not sure06:08
grimacemeh, oh well its fixed now..06:09
collabra:)06:09
grimacethanks again guys, knowing my luck I will be back06:09
grimacebut until then :D06:09
collabracya06:09
faustusthanks, man!  i'll come back and check in soon.06:10
faustuswhat's a good way to avoid installing the wrong stuff and messing up the chance of a workable solution?06:10
jmichaelxfaustus:you will not need to install anything for your video... you will be using the native free/open drivers that you already have installed06:11
faustusi'm talking in general, like the wireless issue.06:12
jmichaelxfaustus: do NOT try to install any proprietary AMD/ATI drivers... you will bork things royally that way06:12
faustusi would have installed 10 things if i followed every guide i found06:12
faustusok06:12
jmichaelxfaustus: well, i do not know about your other hardware06:12
jmichaelxfaustus: is your wireless not working?06:13
jmichaelxwould anyone here know anything what would happen if a person simply removed pulseaudio in 10.10?06:15
collabrajmichaelx: i'm not sure,... but a note,... not knowing why,... but, what's with all the hostility against pulseaudio?,... i've never had a problem.06:17
collabrajmichaelx: did it have issues back in the day or something?06:18
jmichaelxcollabra: pulseaudio is awesome, if it works with your hardware... i had no problems with it in the last several versions of kubuntu, but i have major issues with it in 10.1006:19
jmichaelxcollabra: this is using intel HD audio06:20
collabraahh,... it's just that i've heard many user hating on pulse06:20
jmichaelxcollabra:pulse can really suck sometimes06:20
jmichaelxcollabra: like many things in linux, pulse is only half-baked06:20
collabrajmichaelx: what's prefered by users when it comes to audio, then?06:21
jmichaelxcollabra: pulseaudio is preferred, IF it works well with your hardware... and 10.10 is the first version of kubuntu in which pulseaudio is there by default. oddly, it is also the first time that it has not worked for me on this machine06:22
jmichaelxcollabra: without pulse, a person would normally just rely on alsa06:22
jmichaelxcollabra: and i have just confirmed that if i avoid using pulseaudio, my sound is fine.... using pulseaudio (at least the way it is presently configured) it sucks06:23
collabraso, i'm not using pulse then,.. 10.04.... hmm,... that's why my audio didn't work well in 10.1006:24
faustusjmi: my wireless is working now06:24
collabrajmichaelx: i'm thinking i experienced the same issue you are, then.06:24
faustusit's just now the video card doesn't hold resolution and i can't get dual monitors.  once that works i'll be golden.06:25
jmichaelxfaustus: awesome.... many wireless adapters work out-of-the-box these days, and many othes work with some minor tweaking06:25
jmichaelxcollabra: it is possible. do you know what audio adapter you are using?06:25
faustusyeah, it took me a few days of attempted various combinations of commands06:25
faustusi have to run, but i'll be back in. thanks for your help!06:26
jmichaelxtake care, faustus.... i will try to look into your video settings06:26
collabrajmichaelx: HDA Intel : ALC 2100 analog is my primary,... with HDA Intel: HDMI  as secondary06:27
collabrajmichaelx: sorry 1200 not 210006:28
jmichaelxcollabra: yeah, so you may well be running into issues similar to mine06:28
jmichaelxcollabra: my intel HD chipset is not exactly the same as yours... but i have read that a number of them are having issues06:29
collabrajmichaelx: all i know is the driver installed was a generic,... not even a mention of any Intel driver06:29
jmichaelxcollabra: well, that in itself does not necessarily mean that anything was amiss.... the gold standard is just 'did it work, or did it not?'06:31
collabrajmichaelx: and i truly hated the mixer,... i had absolutely no options in 101006:31
jmichaelxcollabra: yes, i hate that , too06:31
jmichaelxcollabra: i think it was premature for pulseaudio to have been installed by default in 10.10.... but that is how they do things06:32
collabrajmichaelx: yeah, it did work,.. but, it just didn't 'feel' right, if you catch my drift06:32
collabrai have no confidence in 101006:32
jmichaelxcollabra: yes, and that may well mean that something wasn't quite right... i know my sound hasn't been right, but if i play music with an app that does not use pulseaudio, things are fine06:33
collabrai'm just very glad that when i installed 10.04 i created a separate /home directory.... I would have lost tons of document, music, files and such06:33
collabragoing back to 10.04 that is06:33
jmichaelxcollabra: a separate /home makes many things so much slicker06:34
collabrawell,... i've experienced /home directory losses and just got tired and then got careful.06:35
jmichaelxcollabra: i am planning to stay in 10.10 on this machine, but i had to revert my laptop from 10.10 to 10.04, and as you say, with a separate /home, it was really no big deal06:35
jmichaelxcollabra: the best plan is to have a separate /home, and to keep /home backed up somewhere else06:36
jmichaelxthat is what i generally aim for06:36
collabrai have a 320gb hd on my laptop,... and use 300 of it for my home dir06:36
collabrahome being at the end of the drive and tagged as a logical drive06:37
poyntzabout 300 blocked updates. anyway to fix?07:09
collabrapoyntz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:10
sresuWhere should I extract this script- http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Sky.fm+and+DI.fm+radio+streams+service?content=126844 ?07:23
sresu... in Amarok?07:24
collabraopen amarok: then tools and then script manager,... hopefully you can figure it out from there,... sresu07:28
collabrasresu: don't extract the script file....07:31
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poyntz300 blocked updates.. anyway to fix?07:54
collabrapoyntz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:55
poyntzThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libdrm-nouveau1: Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (< 1:0.0.16) but 1:0.0.15+git20100219+9b4118d-0ubuntu5 is to be installed07:56
poyntzcollabra: that's what I get when I try that07:56
collabrahmm,...07:57
collabrapoyntz: why do you have 300 updates to begin with,... is this a new installation?07:58
collabrapoyntz: are you updating the sys for the first time?07:58
collabrapoyntz: or did you add a repo or a ppa?07:59
BATihello everybody, can somebody help me to setup toshiba n554 bluetooth mouse in kubuntu 10.10?08:00
poyntzcollabra: couldn't do a dist-upgrade so ended up changing every instance of the word 'lucid' in sources.list to 'maverick'08:03
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poyntzcollabra: then did an update & upgrade08:03
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poyntzcollabra: a lot of packages actually installed.. but 150 were blocked08:04
collabrapoyntz: you did what?08:07
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collabrapoyntz: no,no,no.... there are internal ways of upgrading to the next distro,... what you did isn't recommended.08:08
collabrapoyntz: you should have read the instructions for upgrading from one distro to another,...08:09
collabrapoyntz: have you rebooted since you upgraded?08:11
collabrapoyntz: or since your last upgrade?08:12
BATiplease, can somebody help me to setup toshiba n554 bluetooth mouse in kubuntu 10.10?08:14
poyntzcollabra: lots of times, for updates08:14
poyntzcollabra: i know it's not the conventional way.. but kpackagekit kept failing the upgrade due to errors08:15
collabrai'm using 10.04,... and i'm not sure what timezone your in,... but this late in the evening isn't that great to find answers,.. not too many people helping at this time, BATi08:15
stefanoshello from greece08:16
collabrapoyntz: so, what error do you get if you terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:17
stefanosto inform everyone that you can help its other directly using teamviewer  from www.teamviewer.com08:17
collabrapoyntz: if any,... that is.08:17
BATicollabra: whoops, I did not take timezone to the equation :) sometimes I do forget, that not everybody lives in my timezone... BTW I am CEST+108:18
collabraah,... pst here,.. america is currently sleeping08:18
BATicollabra: still, after night spent on finding what is wrong, I've tried to find help here...08:19
collabraBATi: and for certain, you can find help at this time,... but there are usually more helper with more knowlege during what i would call ,... daytime. :)08:21
collabrait's currently 1:21 am here in the great pacific northwest.  :)08:22
BATicollabra: lesson taken :)08:22
collabranp08:22
poyntzcollabra: no error msgs. just get a dump of packages that haven't installed08:24
BATicollabra: I'll just wait if somebody from my tz comes or if any nosleeper from USA comes in :)08:24
poyntzcollabra: aka, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 288 not upgraded.08:24
collabraBATi: i'm sure that is probable...08:26
collabrapoyntz: and, have you tried kpackagekit since your last reboot?08:28
collabrapoyntz: kpackagekit handles those "not upgraded" packaged differently than apt-get or aptitude08:29
collabrapoyntz: and third: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade gives you dependancy errors, am i right?08:30
collabrapoyntz: you there?,... geez,... the pause between your answers is killing me,... i really want to go to 7-11 before beer thirty08:33
collabrapoyntz: you've got less than  10 minutes before i leave08:34
collabrano, even less,... i'm leaving,... be back, maybe.... you should have followed the distro-upgrade how-to before you did what you did.... i hope you find a solution, poyntz.08:38
BATicollabra: oh jeeez, it is 7/11... I must make some post08:38
collabrapost?,... i'm after alcohol... thanks anyway.08:38
BATicollabra: I am alcohol filled anyday, but I have to post for people here to remember what happened...08:40
collabraBATi: perhaps you can help poyntz if he ever comes back. he upgraded from lucid to maverick without reading any documentation... bye.08:42
BATicollabra: I'll try... have some beer on me :)08:43
BATiplease, can somebody help me to setup toshiba n554 bluetooth mouse in kubuntu 10.10?08:50
jmichaelxwhy beer, when vodka does so much of a better job....08:51
jmichaelxvodka helps me not notice pulseaudio screwing up my music playback nearly so much...08:52
poyntzcollabra: tried kpackagekit since all reboots08:52
poyntzcollabra: also tried apt-get with no luck08:53
BATijmichaelx: 'cause he is going to a beer party :) but you're right, I have a bottle of vodka sitting right next to my keyboard :)08:53
poyntzcollabra: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade gives...08:53
poyntzThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libdrm-nouveau1: Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (< 1:0.0.16) but 1:0.0.15+git20100219+9b4118d-0ubuntu5 is to be installed08:53
poyntzE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.08:53
jmichaelxBATi: you obviously undertook very careful planning precautions. kudos.08:53
BATipoyntz: so, if you don't need it unistall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau08:54
jmichaelxpoyntz: i am late to the game, and should retire soon... but are you trying to remove nouveau due to some conflict with proprietary nvidia drivers?08:55
BATijmichaelx: well I catched a liittle cold, so I drink coffe with vodka :) I call it "the russian coffee" :)08:56
jmichaelxrussian coffee sounds excellent08:56
jmichaelxbut then again, that is coming from someone who both a known caffeine and a known alcohol addict08:56
BATilittle bit like irish coffee, but without flavor08:57
jmichaelxya08:57
jmichaelxi like irish coffee08:57
poyntzBATi: trying that now08:57
BATiwithout added flavor, that was what I ment08:57
jmichaelxya, i assumed that is what you meant08:57
jmichaelxa person could always purchase some flavored syrup08:58
BATijmichaelx: so ya skilled caffeine and alcohol user, from what I  read :)))08:59
jmichaelxBATi: yes, bordering on professional09:00
BATijmichaelx: same on me, same on me...09:00
jmichaelxBATi: goes well with debugging of all sorts09:01
BATijmichaelx: well, yeah, I've ended rewriting whole program and in the morning I did not recognized it :)09:02
jmichaelxBATi: and yet it worked better than ever before, though, right?09:03
BATijmichaelx: yep :)09:03
poyntzBATi: well it's workin now09:03
jmichaelx:-D09:03
poyntzBATi: hopefully i don't need nouveau.. :S09:04
BATipoyntz: that is something YOU should know, man....09:04
jmichaelxnow if i could only figure out what the best way would be to disable pulseaudio in kubuntu maverick09:05
BATijmichaelx: forever, or temporarily?09:05
jmichaelxBATi: i am afraid forever, provided that forever means until natty release09:06
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone09:06
phoenix_firebrdone of my ntfs partition is corrupt, is there a utility like chkdisk09:07
jmichaelxfsck09:07
BATipoyntz: This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further description)09:07
BATiprovides support for NVIDIA Riva, TNT, GeForce, and Quadro cards.09:07
jmichaelxand fsck is not quite as profane as it appears09:07
BATipoyntz: so if you don't have any of those cards, you can remove it09:08
jmichaelxbut does fsck work well with NTFS?09:08
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: what is the utility that kubuntu uses by default to check the disks at startup09:08
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: that should be fsck09:08
jmichaelxat least that would be my presumption09:09
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: what are the parameters that i have to give for the fsck09:09
BATijmichaelx: the best option is remove the package pulseaudio09:10
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: from what i am reading, you should not / cannot use fsck with ntfs09:11
phoenix_firebrdji,jmichaelx ima getting an error09:11
jmichaelxBATi: i suspected as much. i have both gnome and kde installed on this system, so i guess removing pulseaudio with probably mess gnome up a bit... but i don't care09:11
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext209:12
phoenix_firebrdfilesystem09:12
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: you should probably use chkdisk from a windows machine09:12
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: will this work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72953509:13
BATijmichaelx: it should not mess anything... I've removed pulseaudio because of flightgear, and there was no problem....09:13
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88134409:13
jmichaelxBATi: ty, i will probably proceed with pulseaudio removal later in the day. it's a shame.... it had worked fine for me on this machine the past few years, but suddenly in 10.10 it is turning my audio in something that sounds the way feces small09:15
jmichaelxsmell*09:15
dogmatixhi room09:16
dogmatixanyone from india here?09:16
jmichaelxBATi: right now i am playing music with moc (therefore bypassing pulse) and the music is great09:16
jmichaelxif i use amarok, things get ugly09:16
poyntzBATi: yeh.. i got nvidia..09:17
BATijmichaelx: well... nothing is perfect... until you carve it to your desired shape... which is with linux possible :)09:18
jmichaelxBATi: exactly why i adore linux09:18
sresuResume playback on start doesn't work under Configure Playback in Amarok... How to fix it?09:18
BATipoyntz: and which type of card, certainly not a RIVA09:19
BATijmichaelx: I too... and makes great server too :) win-win situation :)09:20
jmichaelxpoyntz: 'lspci | grep VGA'09:20
jmichaelxBATi: that is for sure09:21
poyntzjmichaelx: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)09:23
BATipoyntz: then you can deinstall that conflicing package09:24
poyntzas in the nouveau one?09:24
jmichaelxpoyntz: there is a proprietary nvidia driver you can install with that card, but you may run into complications getting it configured properly09:26
BATipoyntz: yes09:26
jmichaelxpoyntz: nouveau would be the simpler solution... you would just have no 3d acceleration or compositing09:27
BATijmichaelx: he have geforce card not a riva card...09:28
BATijmichaelx: so he don't need that driver09:29
jmichaelxBATi: i see that... it looks like the card can use a more modern proprietary driver than i thought09:29
jmichaelxBATi: i agree. his card is newer than i thought it was09:29
jmichaelxi have an nvidia go in an older P4 laptop that needs the 96 driver... i just use nouveua09:30
jmichaelxnouveau*09:30
BATijmichaelx: well riva is older, in that times I had a hair long to the waist :)09:30
jmichaelxbut his is more recent09:30
jmichaelxlol09:30
jmichaelxBATi: and now you have no hair?09:30
jmichaelx:-)09:30
BATijmichaelx: well, after chemotherphy and those things... I just keep a short hair :)09:31
jmichaelxayayay... i would say09:32
BATinp09:32
jmichaelxBATi: knowing you had chemo, i must say, glad that you are here with us09:33
jmichaelxgood night, all !09:33
jmichaelxhappy hacking, etc09:34
BATijmichaelx: to you too!09:34
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collabraBack with the beer and happened upon some herb too...09:35
collabradid my guy get his distro updated?09:35
BATicollabra: no, he had one conflicting and redundad package... btw, herb? which one? :)09:36
collabraoregano,..lol,..I'm betting that one conflict was dissolved, or discontinued as a package in maverick.... right?09:38
BATicollabra: still, he does not need that driver in xorg, so removing it to prevent problems seems to be plausible09:41
collabrait was only that one package that was the problem?09:42
BATicollabra: I did not get any answer from him for about 15 minutes09:43
collabrayeah he was doing that to me too.09:43
BATicollabra: well... support :) only we don't have a SLA :)09:44
collabraSLA...?09:44
BATicollabra: service level agreement09:45
BATicollabra: it is agreement between a firm and customer how to handle accidents, how to pay them and so on...09:46
collabrasorry, there BATi,... had to ctrl alt backspace there,... first time i've had to do that,... not too sure what happened09:51
collabramight've been transmission09:51
collabrabut i hear you about that SLA09:52
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sresuHow can I setup Quassel to use Jovie to speak the text of the posts?09:57
Kasztan...09:58
sresuHow to configure jovie?10:03
poyntzBATi: should i reinstall nouveau?10:04
collabrapoyntz: is it available in maverick,... btw, congratulation on getting past your update issue10:05
poyntzthanks :)10:05
collabrapoyntz: i'm betting nouveau isn't available in maveric10:05
poyntzcollabra: the nvidia driver im using is the latest off the site10:05
poyntzcollabra: will that affect things?10:06
collabrapoyntz: i think it was discontinued as a package,... that's why it had no update candidate in maverick...10:06
collabrapoyntz: i'm betting that, no, you don't need it,.. and i bet you couldn't find it anyway10:07
collabrapoyntz: you can certainly search for it if you want,... but if the system runs fine,... well.10:08
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fanfanПривет кубунтушникам10:56
bazhang!ru | fanfan10:56
ubottufanfan: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke10:56
fanfanok10:57
Peace-hi11:10
Peace-:)11:10
collabra:)11:10
Peace-collabra: have you kdenlive?11:11
collabraahh,... my current operating system is kubuntu 10.04 LTS,.. i'm not familiar with kdenlive11:15
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Peace-collabra: well i have made a little job for it11:19
Peace-xD11:19
Peace-need testers11:19
collabraah,... i see.11:19
bazhang!info kdenlive11:20
ubottukdenlive (source: kdenlive): a non-linear video editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.7.1+svn4571-1 (maverick), package size 1143 kB, installed size 3168 kB11:20
Peace-collabra: i have created an automatized script to provide a video project automatically11:20
Peace-with transitions11:20
Peace-if you are interested11:20
collabraPeace-: I have never used video editing software or anything close to it...11:22
Peace-collabra: it's a service menu for dolphin http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=134476&file1=134476-1.png&file2=134476-2.jpeg&file3=134476-3.jpeg&name=akm-video-qt11:22
Peace-anyway11:22
Peace-no problem at all11:23
Peace-if you are not interested11:23
collabraPeace-: what,... does it give a few seconds preview of video files?11:23
collabraPeace-: like when you hover over it with a mouse?  or what?11:24
Peace-collabra: if you want video preview on dolphin you have to install kffmpegthumbnailer11:25
Peace-collabra: my service menu creates kdenlive project...11:25
Peace-collabra: like this without you have to do nothiung11:25
Peace-nothing11:25
Patriciahello11:25
collabraPeace-: yeah,... i don't use kdenlive.... :(  sorry.....11:26
Peace-Patricia: hi11:26
Peace-collabra: no problem11:26
collabrahi11:26
PatriciaPeace-: to install the kde-full must get the kubuntu-desktop?11:26
PatriciaI installed and did not notice much difference :S11:27
Patriciassrs11:27
Peace-Patricia: what did you mean ?11:27
collabraPatricia: I have done that very thing with my current kubunt 10.04,... and the basic difference is added programs11:28
Peace-but yes with kubuntu-destkop  you cna install everything related to kubuntu Patricia11:28
Patriciacollabra mmm11:28
Patriciammm11:28
Peace-collabra: remove dragonplayer install vlc11:28
Peace-xD11:28
Peace-install codecs11:29
Peace-install kffmpegthumbnailer11:29
collabraPatricia: but hey,... i've got games, education software, and a few development files.... you're right not much difference11:29
Patricia:P11:29
Patriciait only installs things I do not use :(  --> Game11:30
collabraPatricia: lol,... yeah,... me too :0)11:30
Patricia^^11:31
collabraPatricia: in fact,.. aside from the solitare game,... i've never used any of the programs that were installed under kde-full11:32
Patricia:P11:32
collabra=)11:32
poyntzcollabra: i'll try rebooting. thanks in advance for the help11:33
collabrawhat help?!?11:34
Peace-xD11:34
collabrai do believe he thanked the wrong person.11:35
PatriciaYou know solve this problem?  http://uploaddeimagens.com.br/imagem/index/settingpatricia4.png11:35
collabraPatricia: the link timed out,... no site.11:36
collabraPatricia: lemmy try again.11:36
Patricia:S11:36
Patriciasorry11:36
Peace-yes11:36
Patricianew up11:37
collabraPatricia: yeah,.. timed out again.11:37
collabraOcorreu um erro no banco de dados11:37
collabraNão foi possível conectar ao servidor de banco de dados usando os dados informados.11:37
collabrathat's what i got from the link11:37
Patricia;O11:38
Patricia¬¬ upload fail akakakka11:38
Patricianew upload11:38
Patricia:D11:38
Peace-collabra: are you spanish?11:38
Patriciahttp://www.fotopersona.tk/settingpatricia4.png11:38
collabrano i speak english11:38
Patriciathe effects11:39
Peace-kde bad installations detected11:39
collabrawhat am  i looking at here?11:39
Peace-collabra: he has no effetc11:39
Peace-effects11:39
Peace-i guess kdebase-bin should be reinstalled11:40
Peace-i guess11:40
Patriciaa while they are gone11:40
Peace-Patricia: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdebase-bin11:40
Peace-try that11:40
Patriciaok11:40
Patriciano :S11:41
collabraI do dig your desktop layout,.. Patricia,.. :0)11:41
PatriciaPeace-: failed11:41
Patriciasame11:41
Patricia^^11:42
phoenix_firebrdi am not able to mount a ntfs volume using dolphin, i am getting an error. i check with chkdsk , it said there where no errors. any help?11:42
Peace-Patricia: kbuildsycoca411:42
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: fastest solutions kdesudo dolphin11:42
Peace-phoenix_firebrd: smart and safe solutions11:43
collabraphoenix_firebrd: have you loaded the ntfs filesystem drivers?11:43
Patricia sudo apt-get install --reinstall kbuildsycoca411:43
Peace-fix the fstab11:43
Patricia?11:43
Peace-Patricia: no11:43
Peace-Patricia: only run the command11:43
Peace-kbuildstuff11:43
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: i tried with admin. previleges11:43
Peace-!ntfs | phoenix_firebrd11:43
ubottuphoenix_firebrd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE11:43
collabraphoenix_firebrd: lemmy find the actual package for you11:43
phoenix_firebrdPeace-: other ntfs drivers are getting mounted11:43
PatriciaPeace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/527565/11:44
Peace-Patricia: now look at effects11:44
collabrayeah,... well, then there might be something wrong with the partition or maybe corruption within filesystem it's self11:44
Peace-Patricia: are there?11:44
freinhardhi!11:45
Patriciano effects11:45
Peace-phoenix_firebrd:  +1 collabra11:45
Patricia:S11:45
Peace-Patricia: ok wait a second11:45
Patriciaok11:45
freinhardis there a digikam 1.5.0 reopo for 10.10?11:45
Peace-Patricia: 10.10 or 10.04?11:45
Patricia10.0411:46
Peace-Patricia: ok wait11:46
Patriciaok :)11:46
Peace-Patricia: copy and paste that on konsole11:48
Peace-Patricia: http://pastebin.com/XPjzqrHQ11:48
Patriciaok11:48
collabraphoenix_firebrd: i just checked and kubuntu 10.04 defaults with the ntfs libraries installed.11:48
Peace-Patricia: should reinstall everything11:48
Patricia;O11:48
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: this is the error message i am getting -->http://pastebin.com/gPimJacc11:49
collabraphoenix_firebrd: so,.. i would bet on partition and/or filesystem corruption11:49
PatriciaPeace-: pasted11:49
Peace-execute11:49
Peace-:)11:49
Patriciawill it solve?11:49
Peace-press enter11:49
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: but i checked with windows check disk , it says everything is fine11:49
Peace-Patricia: it should11:49
Patricia:)11:49
Peace-Patricia: after that logout and login11:50
Patriciadownload11:50
Patricia177mb11:50
Patriciaok Peace-11:50
Peace-yea i know11:50
Patriciatks11:50
collabraphoenix_firebrd: what i gathered from the pastebin is that either you didnt specify the filesystem type,... in this case ntfs,... or,... you tried to pass an option that doesn't exsist11:52
collabraphoenix_firebrd: can you post the command you used in the pastebin,... please.11:52
poyntzcollabra: unfortunately, not getting anything when I startup now :(11:53
poyntzcollabra: I get a cursor and a black screen11:53
collabrapoyntz: i'm confused but what did i help you with?11:53
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: what command. i just clicked the drive in dolphin and it reported the error. if you want i cound paste a snapshot11:53
poyntzcollabra: getting sudo apt-get update to work11:54
collabraphoenix_firebrd: OH,... you just clicked,... hmm.....11:54
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: dolphin should mount the drive when i click without a problem right?11:54
collabraphoenix_firebrd: lemmy think about that one.11:54
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: my kubuntu is 10.10 and i installed it yesterday only11:55
collabrapoyntz: you've come in here with three different screen names,... am i correct?11:55
poyntzcollabra: not at all11:55
poyntzcollabra: i'm working off wired internet11:55
collabraphoenix_firebrd: oh,.. well,... i certainly have had my share of problems with 10.10,... in fact, after two days i had so many problems,... i went back to 10.04 LTS11:56
poyntzcollabra: i just did an update which you and a few others helped me do11:56
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: really?11:56
poyntzcollabra: but now there's a bug in xserver/plasma-deskto11:56
collabrapoyntz: sorry,.. i just didn't recognize you,.. i apologize.... now, what's happening?11:57
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: i think i found the problem11:57
poyntzcollabra: just did an upgrade.. managed to install 112 packages11:57
collabraphoenix_firebrd: good,... lemmy know how it goes.11:57
poyntzcollabra: rebooted, and then plasma-desktop doesn't start up11:57
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: see the wrong fstab entry./dev/sda1/ext4errors=remount-ro0111:58
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: sda1 is ntfs11:58
collabrapoyntz: ok,... if i remember,... you manually changed the sources.list from lucid to maverick,... right?11:58
poyntzcollabra: yep11:58
sunweishouHello!12:00
poyntzcollabra: kdm starts, i login, then im left with a cursor and a black screen12:01
poyntzcollabra: also can't launch any apps via hotkeys12:01
collabrayeah,... well,... if you had upgraded the recommended way,.. I believe a special program would have run to properly upgrade to the maverick distro,... so,... when you updated manually,... you didn't get certain crucial software related to maverick. the difference betweeen lucid and maverick are great enough to need this software.12:02
poyntzcollabra: it wasn't letting me upgrade the conventional way12:02
poyntzcollabra: by conventional i'm assuming you mean kpackagekit12:02
collabrapoyntz: either that is the case,.. or that program that updates to maverick configures the system specific to maverick12:03
phoenix_firebrdcollabra: successfully solved the problem12:03
collabraphoenix_firebrd: right on...12:03
poyntzcollabra: i'm still getting 38 packages held back. could that be a problem?12:03
poyntzcollabra: when i try to update that is12:03
phoenix_firebrdcollabra, Peace- thank you for the support12:04
Peace-:)12:04
collabrapoyntz: i mean reading a little about just how to upgrade from one distro to another,... you should have considered this before you upgraded12:04
collabra!upgrade12:04
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:04
poyntzcollabra: i read about modifying the sources.list. that's the problem lol12:05
poyntzcollabra: i searched for the error i was getting, and they came up with a hook around12:05
poyntzcollabra: the sources.list file was the hook around they had12:06
collabrapoyntz: the question is,... can it be done,... and if so, how.12:06
collabra!dist12:06
poyntzcollabra: last time something like this happened it's because the new plasma packages didn't install correctly12:06
poyntzcollabra: this is a recurring problem on upgrades for me lol12:07
poyntz!dist > poyntz12:07
poyntzcollabra: nothing there..12:07
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collabraok,... well,... can you use: sudo aptitude to search for the plasma packages that are needed from the terminal12:08
collabra!upgrade12:08
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:08
poyntzcollabra: do you know if plasma-netbook is needed?12:08
collabra^ poyntz ^12:08
collabrapoyntz: only if you are using a netbook12:09
poyntzcollabra: sorry for the lame question but is a laptop a netbook?12:09
collabrapoyntz: no,.. a laptop is either amd64, 64 bit,.. or  the standard 32 bit12:10
poyntzcollabra: ah k12:10
poyntzcollabra: i tried reinstalling some xorg/xserver files.. ill restart n see how it goes12:11
collabrak12:11
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Patricia67% ;O12:31
collabra67% .....  ?12:33
Patriciareinstall kde12:33
Patricia:S12:33
collabraPatricia: ah,..12:36
Patricia73% :S12:36
Patriciaaeea12:36
Patriciarsrsrs12:36
Patriciamy networks no fast12:37
Patricia:S12:37
collabraha...12:37
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VOAit12:47
dante__hay13:04
dante__:)13:04
salaahafter i updated kubuntu, i lost the option of chosing a kde session from the login screen. i had to reinstall kubuntu-deesktop from the software13:04
salaahi added the kubuntu ppa...updated and when i restarted, i lost the kde session option13:05
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logikhows is going13:14
powerinsideKnetworkmanager no longer autostarts on its own despite being checked in autostarts list!!13:14
logikany one in here interested in helping me out?13:16
logikis the kubuntu forums down for everyone?13:16
rorklogik: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ says service unavailable indeed13:17
logikawesome13:17
logikwell lets see i have an interesting problem13:18
logikmy wireless card shows up and "connects"13:18
logikbut i cant ping or get online13:18
rork!wifi | logik13:20
ubottulogik: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:20
FirefisheI'm having trouble with my microphone on my asus g50v laptop not working with 4.5.1, or any other desktop environment.  The microphone is simply not detected.  I'm using 10.04.13:21
rorklogik: That's all I know about wireless, I can't help you in another way with it but probably someone else will pick it up, there are some wireless here who might help you13:21
logikthank you13:22
ghostcube_hmm, i updated to 10.10 and i think wasent my best idea. so how to get audio channels back in the kmix tool?13:31
ghostcube_i only got one damn internal audio13:31
ghostcube_and why isnt jackd be noticed by the soundsystem in mav again?13:32
collabraghostcube_: lol,... ur the fourth one today.... i had the same problem among other when it comes to 10.1013:32
ghostcube_collabra: sounds cool, any help so far13:32
collabraghostcube_: i went back to 10.04 lts13:33
ghostcube_i dont know where to start13:33
collabraghostcube_: there has been no solutions,...13:33
collabraghostcube_: most, including me,... were using intel audio hardware13:34
ghostcube_me too13:34
ghostcube_woah this is truely the worsest release ever after gutsy13:38
ghostcube_i think i will the first time ever install any windows os here so i have a working system13:38
ghostcube_i never thought i would say this13:38
ghostcube_-.-13:39
SiBHello, I do 'crontab -e' and put my entry here. Where is my crontab located? Editor say that is in temp... I thinking in ~/crontab is correct but I havent that file..13:45
SiBok, I found it, users crontab are located in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/13:50
KrezkeyHello all, Can someone tell me how to empty the user temp folder. I keep getting a prompt that I can not because I am not the owner13:50
SiBKrezkey, you try use chown & chmod on this temp folder ?13:52
Krezkeynever heard of those, have no idea what they are13:52
Krezkeystill learning this OS,  only 2 or 3 week into it13:54
SiBKrezkey, put some more information about this folder. Where is his localization. You use only Graphical Interface or some black box command too?13:54
Krezkeyhome \ user \ tmp  is the location ....never used command line stuff before13:56
Krezkeydon't know anything about command line13:57
KrezkeySIB, sorry13:57
KrezkeyI better come back here when I can keep my eyes open. taking pain pills and coming here was a bad idea....lol13:58
SiBKrezkey, ok, I try to help you, please wait. I created user tmp to reproduce your problem :)13:58
Krezkeyok I'll hold on as long as I can13:59
Krezkeyeyes are very heavy14:00
SiBKrezkey: I have easy resolution :)14:01
Krezkeyhow does this chat hi-lite the replys in the window, are mine hi-lited on your screen SIB  ?14:01
KrezkeySIB Ok let me have it14:02
SiBKrezkey: Left ALT + F2 will open window. Please put this text 'sudo nautilus' and press 'run in terminal' and buttom 'run'. You show black box - ignore it. You show nautilus who can deleted any folder - be carefully wiht this.14:03
SiBKrezkey: I translate the name of windows... maybe there are other names. I used Polish language of my 10.10.14:04
KrezkeyWow that was nice of you to do, thanks SIB14:05
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SiBAnyone know why in 10.10 dont work running command 'gksu nautilus'? I put my password or bad password and I not have any new windows.14:07
SiBKrezkey: You welcom.14:07
KrezkeySIB, Thank you. That worked perfect and was easy too14:08
SiBKrezkey, Please do for me one test.14:08
otradnoeЗДАРОВ ВСЕМ14:09
KrezkeySIB  whats that ?14:10
SiBKrezkey: ALT+F2 and put text 'gksu nautilus' and directly button RUN (without the check box run terminal). Passwork shoud be asking in nice GUI and Nautilus shoud be working good to. In my PC not start, I dont know why14:10
otradnoeЕсть кто русский?14:10
SiBotradnoe: Please use translate.google.pl or other translate engine.14:11
SiBotradnoe: Пожалуйста, используйте translate.google.pl или другой перевод двигателя14:12
KrezkeySIB, I did that and got a password prompt, entered password but nothing opened up or happened after.14:13
Krezkeypassword did ask in nice GUI but niothing else14:13
SiBKrezkey: I use 10.10 64bit Kubuntu with Gnome as default. You?14:14
KrezkeySiB, I am running Ultimate 2.8 10.10 32bit with compizans emerald14:15
BluesKajHiyas all14:15
Krezkeycompiz and emerald14:16
SiBKrezkey: I thinking we found one bug in *ubuntu :), I put it to ubuntu bugzilla14:16
KrezkeySiB: nice to chat with someone so far away like this and get help.  What bug is that ?14:17
SiBKrezkey: at first, please searching in google :), You find resolution as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug :)14:19
KrezkeySiB: I know what a bug is,  Wanted to know what bug you found14:20
KrezkeyHi BluesKaj14:24
SiBKrezkey: It's not working command: 'gksu command'. In prev ver of *ubuntu is working. This is bug14:24
KrezkeySiB: ok did not understand at first.14:25
KrezkeySiB: when you let your system run and it goes into sleep or suspend, Do you have parts of your screen missing or totally gone when you try to resume ?14:26
SiBKrezkey: Your problem with this tmp folder it's a security problem. Please read more on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chown & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod to understand all aspects. My answer is good in this case but in future you must know this. :D14:27
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KrezkeySiB: ok I will read it.14:28
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BluesKajhi Krezkey14:29
KrezkeyHi BluesKaj14:29
SiBKrezkey: Hmm, I dont understand... I use it and all work fine. You have any of screenshoot?? 'Print Screen' key or 'prt sc' key shoud be fine to report this.14:30
SiBHi BluesKaj.14:30
BluesKajhi SiB14:30
KrezkeySiB: thats the other problem, nothing works when it does that. No mouse or keys. I have to kill it with power button and restart.14:31
KrezkeySiB: Music still plays from Amarok but nothing else works.14:32
SiBKrezkey: ok, I give you other method. Better :)14:32
KrezkeySiB: I have to go. My Pain pills are making me too sleepy to read the screen. Hope to catch you on here again.14:33
KrezkeySiB: Thanks again.14:34
KrezkeyNight all14:34
SiBtry in this way: CTRL+ALT+F1 (it's open black box {shell}) and you must put your creditionals and put command halt or poweroff or shoutdonw -r now.14:35
SiBBut for me if you put 'service kdm restart' you can be login to system again and all will be working fine.14:36
KrezkeySiB: I will try that next time if keys work. Thanks again but I have to go now.14:38
BluesKajhowdy, I'm trying to edit the fonts in dolphin and kate when run as kdesudo or sudo .I'd like to make the toolbar fonts larger due the size of the monitor ,The files that I have edited and saved like /etc/network/interfaces, use the system settings fonts that I set up, but files run as root do not14:43
James147BluesKaj: if you want to edit settings when running kdesudo run "kdesudo systemsettigns" to edit roots settings :)14:44
BluesKajI asked the above question in #kde , but no response , thought I'd ask in the off chance that someone might have some insight14:44
BluesKajJames147, thanks, wonder why settings are different as root14:47
James147BluesKaj: because they are taken from /root/.kde since its running as root14:48
BluesKajtoo bad still doesn't fix the dinky fonts on chromium bookmark bar and tabs14:50
dmattanother computer, another problem with update...14:52
dmattprocess of actualisation ended with code 12714:52
James147dmatt: how are you updating?14:53
dmattit failed before shortly after downloads were finished14:53
dmattthrough kpackagekit14:53
dmattfrom 10.0414:53
dmattI am upgrading 10.04->10.1014:54
James147dmatt: so your doing a release upgrade?14:54
dmattyes14:54
James147dmatt:  :)14:54
James147dmatt: try running thi sin a terminal: "sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade"14:54
dmattsays GPG error .. repositories are from Maverick, and there is no new ubuntu release14:56
James147dmatt: ... hmm, try running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"14:58
logikmind if i ask a question15:01
James147!ask | logik15:01
ubottulogik: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:01
dmattJames147: lots of missing dependencies, refused to run, recommends usinf -f option15:02
James147dmatt: then run it with -f   ... or run "sudo apt-get -f install"15:03
logikthank you, ok so on my desktop i have a wireless card and it connects to my secured network, I use DHCP reservation, I get a proper ip, but I cannot ping my router or any outside address along with the default browser cant go anyware.15:04
BluesKajdmatt, try sudo do-release-upgrade15:08
dmattBluesKaj: I need to add GPG key for repositories first I guess15:09
James147dmatt: can you pastebin the error15:10
BluesKajdmatt, no remove any ppa repos from your /etc/apt/sources.list first ,,sorry should have mentioned that15:10
James147BluesKaj: I think hes 1/2 way though the upgrade... seems to ahve the maverick repos enabled...15:11
dmattJames147: BluesKaj: yes, my update failed shortly after all new packages were downloaded and setting of new packages began15:12
James147dmatt: can you pastebin the gpg error message/.15:15
BluesKajdmatt, ok ,are you stuck in upgrade limbo on the cli ?15:16
dmattJames147: I am not sure it would help because it si localised...15:16
James147do it anyway :)15:17
dmattBluesKaj: I have the upgrading netbook running and talk and google on my primary notebook :)15:17
BluesKajdmatt, sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list , changes the repos to maverick15:17
dmattBluesKaj: it is already on maverick, that part od update went ok15:18
BluesKajok, well something good came of it then15:19
dmattapt-get update downloads everything and then complains about public GPG key not available15:20
James147dmatt: can you paste that error...15:20
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wang222hey how do I add a shortcut to an application to my bar at the bottom ?15:21
dmattpaste!|dmatt15:21
James147!pastebin15:21
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wang222anyone?15:22
James147wang222: unlock the widgets and drag and drop the application from the menu15:22
eagles0513875hey guys im on kubuntu lucid 64bit and my system wants to run an fsck but it cant do it when the check is forced15:22
eagles0513875im on a live cd of lucid so how can i tell it to run fsck on next reboot15:23
eagles0513875when im not on the live cd15:23
eagles0513875the drive is a 2tb hdd15:23
wang222James147: it is unlocked but when I drag down it doesn't stay there15:23
James147wang222: what version of kde/kubuntu?15:24
logikwell guys appericeate all the help but I think I will try on my own from here15:24
wang22210.10 and not sure what version of kde15:24
wang222ahh I figured it out15:24
elimentalJust an observational question, is it normal for Kubuntu 10.10 64 bit to have 3 times as many updates as 10.10 32 bit?15:24
wang222I have to put it in the left side only...15:24
collabraeagles0513875: whatever you do dont run it while it's mounted15:25
eagles0513875collabra: ya i know15:25
James147wang222: you can move the widgets in the panel around when you have the panel settings open15:25
eagles0513875James147: used the wrong command lol was using fdisk instead of fsck or at least trying with that command15:25
collabraeagles0513875: you can run fsck while in the live cd, though15:25
wang222cool, thanks!15:25
eagles0513875collabra: ya i am its running now15:25
collabraeagles0513875: k.15:26
James147eagles0513875: :)15:26
eagles0513875stupid me15:26
SiBeagles0513875: Maybe 'tune2fs -c 1 /dev/drive' can help15:26
dmattJames147: it is in paste.ubuntu.com/527667/15:27
eagles0513875SiB: i got it15:27
James147dmatt: try this to fix the errors: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/809-debian-apt-get-no-pubkey-gpg-error15:29
eagles0513875time to restart and see if that fixed it or broke my system15:29
collabraeagles0513875: fixed...15:31
eagles0513875collabra: rebooting now had to change a setting in bios now booting up15:31
eagles0513875seems like its done the trick me thinks15:31
eagles0513875yep that did it :)15:31
collabraeagles0513875: i had to do the same thing 3 weeks ago.15:32
eagles0513875:)15:32
eagles0513875well just learned somethign new today15:32
eagles0513875had tons of problems yesterday but not linux related15:32
collabraeagles0513875: i think having /boot in a separate partition would be an advantage for fsck checks.15:34
eagles0513875collabra: im still debating about turning this desktop into another server and building myself a new i7 rig15:35
dmattJames147: does not work, gpg.conf has the security wrong set :(15:35
collabraeagles0513875: i'm still saving for my i7 project15:35
eagles0513875collabra: bring it into kubuntu-offtopic m815:37
dmattJames147: without sudo the command worked, but key was not found15:40
James147dmatt: ... it kind of needs sudo to work15:40
logikany body know of a channel i can get help with a networking problem?15:40
James147dmatt: can you not run "sudo apt-get install -f" and just ignroe the warnings?15:42
logikhave I been labeled with the plague or something?15:42
James147!wait15:43
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.15:43
dmattJames147: you mean at-get upgrade -F15:43
dmatt*apt-get15:43
James147dmatt: either should work15:43
DarthFrog!question | logik15:43
ubottulogik: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:43
logiki ahve been here for 2 hours any idea how long it takes15:44
dmattJames147: Ok, i run the force installation15:44
dmattJames147: but is it enough to get correctly set up system?15:45
James147logik: that entirly depends on when someone joins that knows the answer to your question... the best thing to do is repeat your question every 30 mins or so so that people that have joined know your problem and to search the forums while you wait15:45
DarthFroglogik: Is your default route set up correctly?15:45
DarthFroglogik: "netstat -nr" will tell you what it is currently.15:46
James147dmatt: I would have thorught so... you can run a "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" after to make sure you ahve all the required packages15:46
logikok wil do15:46
dmattJames147: ok, thanks for the tip15:47
logikDarth Frog: I don't think its set up right I would like to post the output but cant remember to websute to paste it15:50
James147!pastebin | logik15:50
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dmatt!grub15:52
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.15:52
DarthFroglogik: "sudo route add default gw <gateway IP address>" will set the default gateway.15:55
elimentalLOL!!! just did that <--- idiot removed network widget and needed to manually add address to be able to apt it again15:56
BluesKajhey DarthFrog , if the route command doesn't see the gateway address, does the command you posted set it permanently15:57
BluesKaj?15:57
elimentalBluesKaj: to set it permanently you have to edit /etc/networking/interfaces file15:58
dmattJames147: apt-get install -f did not upgrade kernel15:58
DarthFrogBluesKaj: No, not permanently.  You can add it as a "post-up" command in /etc/network/interfaces, though, to have it reset everytime networking is reset.15:58
James147dmatt: now try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"15:59
DarthFrogBluesKaj: You don't need the "sudo" preface in the interfaces file.15:59
BluesKajelimental, understood ..I use /etc/network/interfaces, rather than NM15:59
elimentalBluesKaj: I am forced to do this as Kubuntu pppoe seems a tad grumpy16:00
BluesKajyou need kdesudo to save the file after editing anyway16:00
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dmattJames147: dist-upgrade in progress16:01
BluesKajelimental, it was a new command to me , because there are ppl who can't find the their router IP with the 'route' command16:01
Peace-Mamarok: ping16:23
eagles0513875hey BluesKaj16:30
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eagles0513875hey BluesKaj16:43
bdizzlehi, last night my clock switched over properly, but this morning it jumped to being an hour behind16:52
chriss0110Hi, i'm looking for the debugging symbols for plasma but i dont know which package i have to install. can anyone help me?16:57
tsimpsonchriss0110: kdebase-workspace-dbg16:58
elimentalIts official.... Kubuntu network manager widget is from hell sent here to taunt me17:00
chriss0110tsimpson: i installed that already but there is still missing a debug package that has something to do with plasma. i got "#7  0x08ac49a2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_message_indicator.so" but i dont know which package this is17:00
tsimpson!find usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_message_indicator.so"17:01
tsimpson!find usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_message_indicator.so17:01
ubottuFile usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_message_indicator.so found in plasma-widget-message-indicator17:01
chriss0110tsimpson: so which debug package is this?17:01
tsimpsonchriss0110: give me a sec to look17:03
chriss0110tsimpson: yepp17:03
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chriss0110guess kde doesnt like me, it crashes and crashes :-/17:06
chriss0110i just have to start evolution and plasma crashes17:08
chriss0110...and i just have to minimize and maximize anything and whole kde crashes oO17:09
tsimpsonchriss0110: I can't find a debugging package for that17:14
greenmang0can anybody help me configure mic on kubuntu 10.1017:14
chriss0110tsimpson: i thought there is a debug package for everything17:14
tsimpsonthere should be, but I can't find it17:15
chriss0110okay, another problem first: i maximize something and whole kde crashes. i open evolution and plasma crashes. i type something in firefox and whole kde crashes. is there anything i can do?17:16
Peace-chriss0110: mm loooks like you got a bad installation of kde17:17
Peace-chriss0110: or... you have added weird plasmoid17:17
Peace-chriss0110: please add a new user to your system and check with that user if the problem there are17:17
chriss0110Peace-: i only installed kubuntu-desktop and got this.17:17
chriss0110Peace-: will do this17:18
eagles0513875Peace-: not in offtopic?17:18
Peace-i am17:18
Peace-now17:18
yofelchriss0110: about the debug package: there's no -dbg package for it, but it has a -dbgsym package in the debug archives if you really need it (first try a fresh configuration though as Peace- said)17:20
SiBI have Kubuntu with ubuntu-desktop installed (gdm used). When I run kdesudo that is good. gksu ask as pass but next do nothing. Any one know how correct gksu working?17:23
eagles0513875hey guys where can i finde the url of the 64bit maverick iso i would prefer to download it using wget instead of my browser17:24
eagles0513875and the site doesnt seem to allow me to get the url17:24
chriss0110its exactly the same with a new user17:24
yofelchriss0110: about the debug package: there's no -dbg package for it, but it has a -dbgsym package in the debug archives if you really need it (first try a fresh configuration though as Peace- said)17:25
chriss0110yofel: i tried it with is a new user but got the same problems17:26
yofelchriss0110: err right (I posted the message already before you said that, but you left a few seconds before that)17:26
chriss0110ah okay17:27
yofelsee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash17:27
ikoniaeagles0513875: wget is just going to get the same url as your browser17:28
chriss0110yofel: okay, will do this when i got a system that is not crashing every ten seconds17:28
eagles0513875ikonia: i know but i find it faster then using firefox17:28
ikoniaeagles0513875: yes, but the point is the URL is the same17:29
ikoniaand it's not faster17:29
ikoniait's the same17:29
ikoniaits just a http get request17:29
chriss0110yofel: so what can i do now?17:30
yofelchriss0110: did you see if ~/.xsession-errors says something about what fails?17:31
chriss0110yofel: sorry i dont know how to get information out of this. can i post it on any paste service?17:35
yofelsure17:35
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randy_Beer load [           /         ] 55%18:27
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MamarokPeace-: pong18:32
Peace-Mamarok: which was the package to get pulse working on 10.10 ?18:33
Peace-upavpulse18:33
Peace-or something?18:33
Mamarokpavucontrol18:33
Peace-:) ty i have to test it18:33
MamarokPeace-: you are welcome :)18:33
eagles0513875hey ikonia since when is the 64bit iso over 700mb?18:35
eagles0513875its coming up on k3b and brasero as 727mb iso18:35
eagles0513875O_o18:35
francoalguien que sepa manejar el konqueror_18:36
eagles0513875!es | franco18:36
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yofeleagles0513875: I think that's 700MiB -> 727MB18:37
eagles0513875yofel: nope18:37
eagles0513875k3b and brasero show otherwise18:37
eagles0513875its not letting me burn a cd18:38
yofeleagles0513875: well, *which* iso18:38
eagles0513875this is on lucid18:38
eagles051387564bit maverick iso18:38
yofelthen I wonder where you got that from because the maverick 64bit kubuntu iso is 696M18:39
eagles0513875yofel: it could be a bug in dolphin18:40
eagles0513875yofel: i downloaded it off the kubuntu site18:40
yofellet me fetch the iso and see what dolphin and k3b say..18:40
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eagles0513875yofel: even the make startup disk program is showing the iso at 72718:41
francoalguien que hable espanol?18:44
eagles0513875!es | franco18:44
eagles0513875yofel: im gonna reboot erally fast18:45
yofelsure, I'll need a few more minutes anyway18:45
franco kubuntu18:45
francosomebody speak spanish?18:45
eagles0513875yofel: back18:46
francothis program kubuntu is free?18:46
eagles0513875franco: yes18:46
eagles0513875!kubuntu | franco18:46
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yofeleagles0513875: that was fast..18:46
eagles0513875just restarted x18:46
yofel^^18:46
eagles0513875bah cant use the usb creator18:46
eagles0513875its giving me this error org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Busy: One or more partitions are busy on /dev/sdb18:46
eagles0513875O_o18:46
eagles0513875and there is nothign going on activity wise on the usb device18:47
francofor me this sowftwre is nice but anybody know to use or....18:47
eagles0513875just ask your questions18:47
eagles0513875franco: join ubuntu-es if you feel better speaking in ur native language18:48
francofor example how installa programs adobe18:48
eagles0513875those wont work on linux18:48
francoi need to use photoshop, sombedoy know how to do this?18:48
eagles0513875!photoshop18:48
ubottuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot18:48
eagles0513875^thats what you want franco18:48
eagles0513875yofel: brb again this time need a full restart18:49
eagles0513875damn dbus18:49
francouse design promgrams... but thisprogram because i likde the interface18:49
francoyhanks for the links ubottu18:49
eagles0513875yofel: back18:51
yofelwb, (80% downloaded..)18:52
eagles0513875i think i have a bad check sum O_o18:52
eagles0513875dunno18:52
eagles0513875showed fine but usb programs say otherwise18:53
eagles0513875!upgrade18:53
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade18:53
eagles0513875|2back again yofel18:57
yofelhm, I'm running Maverick here with 4.5.3, dolphin says 695,5MiB which is correct, as the file is ~696MiB/729MB large18:57
yofelk3b 2.0.1 get's the right filesize too18:59
eagles0513875what is plymouth yofel18:59
eagles0513875humm them im bugged18:59
eagles0513875im on version 2.018:59
yofelplymouth handles the boot splash and boot message interaction18:59
eagles0513875dunno y i think plymouth is the cause of all my issues19:00
phoenix_firebrdnot able to connect my mobile to pc using bluetooth19:02
eagles0513875yofel: my download is corrupted19:03
yofelbad luck huh..19:03
eagles0513875this weekend bad luck big time19:04
eagles0513875yofel: even on windows the iso is showing 727mb19:04
yofelI think windows uses 1024^X to show file sizes too19:06
eagles0513875i think i have a corrupted iso19:06
eagles0513875ill bbl#19:06
yofelchecked checksums?19:07
eagles0513875ya but ill redownload just to make sure19:08
eagles0513875that looks more like it download size19:09
yofeltried torrent or zsync? they check checksums by themselves19:09
eagles0513875no i havent19:10
eagles0513875right now im downloading at max download speed i get on my 10mbps line 1.2mbps19:10
eagles0513875been having ram issues which i just fixed :(19:11
yofelouch19:12
eagles0513875darn static build up somehow on the motherboard pc wouldnt work with more then 4gb of ram for some reason19:13
eagles0513875now at least im back up to 819:13
eagles0513875ya19:16
eagles0513875and im wondering if there is build up again19:16
eagles0513875things crashing left right and center19:16
eagles0513875i think im long over due for a clean install19:16
FloodBotK1eagles0513875: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:16
eagles0513875O_O19:16
eagles0513875yofel: was i flooding19:16
yofelI guess the 4 lines in <30s was too fast ^^19:19
eagles0513875yofel: now thas more like it size wise :)19:19
yofelwhat's it now?19:19
eagles051387569519:19
yofelbetter19:20
eagles0513875unetbootin is being a bit of a pain19:20
eagles0513875having issues creating a bootable usb19:20
hallcyonwas able to create kubuntu x64 bootbale usb but  not so lucky with the x3219:22
kyubutsunixie clock widget stopped working19:22
eagles0513875hallcyon: i normally am but im having so many problems with this install not sure if its related to the hardware issue i have been having or not19:22
kyubutsu>:(19:22
eagles0513875yay19:23
eagles0513875at least its burning to the cd19:23
eagles0513875might use my moms windows laptop to make a bootable usb from the cd19:23
kyubutsuborked system.. nothing a clean install wouldnt fix19:23
hallcyonmost ubuntu 10 release i tried failed to install in my desktp so far19:24
hallcyonthey install just fine under my laptop19:24
kyubutsuhallcyon: amd or intel19:24
hallcyonintel desktop, amd laptop19:24
eagles0513875intel desktop a core2 quad here19:25
kyubutsuand kubuntu10 isnt installing on either you say?19:25
hallcyoni719:25
hallcyonnop under laptop it works perfect19:25
hallcyonbut desktop , it boot extremly slow (if it does)19:25
eagles0513875O_o19:26
eagles0513875are you dual booting hallcyon19:26
* kyubutsu running kubuntu10 on pentium4.. no issues, a bit jerky at times though19:27
hallcyoni have a spare hdd all for ku :)19:27
eagles0513875haha same here19:28
eagles05138752tb hd for kubuntu19:28
eagles0513875500 for windows but if i can get me games working under wine ill consider dumping it19:28
eagles0513875ok here goes nothign time to reinstall19:28
kyubutsugot lucky on rekonq too.. got openjdk6 .. not bad ; but, how come openjdk7 isnt in repo?!19:29
kyubutsu>:(19:29
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shlepkahi20:44
shlepkatomorrow armagedon is gonna come20:46
Space_Manshlepka: is armagedon a KDE4 app?20:49
shlepkanope that's the end of the world i was just checking if anybody can hear me : )20:51
Space_Manwe can hear you20:51
shlepkareally : D20:51
Space_Manbut most of us are ignoring you or afk :P20:51
James147shlepka: most of the time your going to get a better response if you just ask "can anyone hear me?" ...  :)20:51
shlepkathere's more fun in armagedon : )20:54
shlepkais anyone using konversation irc client?20:56
James147shlepka: quite a few people are...20:57
shlepkaand you?20:58
eagles0513875hey yofel20:58
shlepkayou?20:59
shlepkabr21:00
James147shlepka: no I am not..21:00
yofeleagles0513875: hm?21:03
eagles0513875one issue that still hasnt ben resolved since lucid21:03
eagles0513875for me is the problem of the installation hanging at 25% unless i disable acpi21:03
yofeldon't know about that :/21:03
eagles0513875ffs now it kernel panicked while reformatting21:04
eagles0513875this is on a 2tb hdd formatting with ext421:04
eagles0513875the funny thing is if i use ubuntu server to install21:04
eagles0513875it will install just fine for me21:05
yofelo.O21:05
eagles0513875exactly21:05
eagles0513875all i know is that 2tb hds need gpt enabled in the kernel21:05
eagles0513875which with lucid it had it from the get go21:05
eagles0513875this is really getting upsetting21:06
eagles0513875tbh i think ubuntu really needs to re look their release schedule21:07
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vbgunzwhen I miss a scrollbar and grab onto a part of the window, how do I stop it from moving the window?21:11
yofelI think the release schedule is fine, it's more that the open source world has a quite fluffy definition of 'ready to be released' - ubuntu itself can't possibly fix all the bugs in the software they ship in a reasonable time21:11
yofelvbgunz: I read about that once... was some oxygen feature, now I just need to remember how to turn it off...21:12
vbgunzyofel: it's not obvious and I gotta go digging through crazy screens for it. I'll get to it21:14
yofelvbgunz: found it, run 'oxygen-settings' and set "Windows' drag mode"21:19
eagles0513875yofel: i just feel like it just doesnt have enough time to get polished21:20
eagles0513875yofel: also when booting onto cd what does edd = on mean or do21:20
vbgunzyofel: awesome, that nailed it. good looking out! It's appreciated!21:20
yofelvbgunz: np21:20
yofeleagles0513875: no idea, never heard of that yet..21:21
eagles0513875ffs21:21
eagles0513875now im getting input output erros21:21
yofeleagles0513875: and sure, it could take some more time, the the longer you wait, the older the software gets :/21:21
eagles0513875this is rediculous21:21
eagles0513875thats nice the installer crashed21:22
eagles0513875sry yofel im just frustrated with this21:24
yofelnp, it's been a while since I saw someone having *that* many issues o.O21:25
eagles0513875i have had since lucid21:25
eagles0513875since i got my 2tb hdd21:25
eagles0513875i might end up using server to install21:26
eagles0513875good excuse to try out the cloud21:26
eagles0513875yofel: now im getting .so issues21:38
eagles0513875libakonadi-kde-so.4.5.0 saying it didnt match its source copy on the cd/dvd21:38
yofelthis starts sounding ridiculous...21:38
eagles0513875yofel: tell me bout it i had this same bs issue with lucid21:38
eagles0513875yofel: are you a dev ?21:40
yofelnope, I hang out in -devel though if theres some easy stuff to do21:41
CanadianPirateIs it possible to switch to the desktop with Present Windows?21:41
eagles0513875yofel: im really starting to get disheartened i filed a bug against ubiquity in regards to this issue and nothing was done about it21:42
yofelCanadianPirate: not that I know of21:42
CanadianPirateyofel That would be a good feature though21:42
eagles0513875yofel: im really loosing faith in this distro :(21:42
yofeleagles0513875: you *could* ask in #ubuntu-installer, I don't know how responsive the guys are there21:43
eagles0513875didnt even know there was a channel for it21:43
CanadianPirateeagles5013875 What is your problem? (joined after you said)21:44
yofelubuntu has more channels than you can possibly keep track of indeed..21:44
eagles0513875CanadianPirate: lots of problems with the installer21:45
eagles0513875errors installer crashing21:45
eagles0513875kernel panics21:45
eagles0513875same issues experienced on lucid21:45
eagles0513875im bout to say the hell with this and install ubuntu server21:45
CanadianPirateAh. That is odd. Is you hardware fully supported?21:45
eagles0513875yes21:46
eagles0513875if i use an ubuntu server cd it installs just fine21:46
eagles0513875either the installer is bugged21:46
eagles0513875or there is a really weird kernel issue that the server version solves and desktop doesnt21:46
eagles0513875CanadianPirate: im installing to a 2tb hdd21:47
CanadianPirateThat may be a problem, but I have never heard of that before21:47
eagles0513875i know you need ext421:47
eagles0513875and the kernel has to have gpt support21:47
eagles0513875and i was told all kernels have it be generic or otherwise21:49
CanadianPirateI just looked it up, and there has been problems. Is is possible to get a 1tb and install on that?21:49
eagles0513875nope :(21:49
eagles0513875i might end up going back ot lucid21:49
eagles0513875or to another distro like debian21:49
James147eagles0513875: have you tried the alternitive installer?21:50
eagles0513875James147: no i havent yet21:50
eagles0513875bout to call it a night for tonight21:50
eagles0513875and go watch southpark21:50
CanadianPirateeagles0513875 Do that, then see what happens (with the alternate installer)21:50
eagles0513875ya i will21:51
eagles0513875im trying to see if i go directly to the installer if that is bugged21:51
eagles0513875if i go right to the live desktop if it will work if i remember correctly that is what i did21:51
eagles0513875ikonia: im having same issues as i was having with lucid21:54
vbgunzI have pretty much all repos enabled. but I cannot find sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin21:56
PooBakeryI was wondering, how do I add a tag to a window so that I can apply the window rules based on the tags?21:56
eagles0513875vbgunz: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras21:56
eagles0513875thats where they are21:56
eagles0513875!java21:56
ubottuTo install a Java runtime on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.21:56
PooBakeryAt the moment, the window rules always have to be set again after a new login etc21:56
vbgunzeagles0513875: I already have that21:56
ikoniaeagles0513875: I did say it was silly to upgrade a distro for icons not looking right21:57
ikonia(I assume that's what your talking about)21:57
eagles0513875ikonia: no21:57
ikoniaoh?21:57
vbgunzeagles0513875: running sudo update-java-alternatives -l shows me, I only have openjdk21:57
ikoniawhat issue then21:57
eagles0513875ikonia: installation issues with so objects notbeing right version kernel panics during install installer crashing21:57
eagles0513875im doing a clean install for stability reasons21:57
ikoniaeagles0513875: so objects not being right ?21:58
PooBakeryso basically what I want to do is add a parameter to each application I start which then determines the window rules, like "> kopete #desktoplist"21:58
ikoniaeagles0513875: can you expand ? I don't know what your referencing21:58
eagles0513875the error says  that ths so on the dvd is different then the version being installed21:58
ikoniaeagles0513875: what error ? (this is the first time I've heard you mention a problem installing)21:59
eagles0513875i had this same installation issues with lucid21:59
eagles0513875when i was installing to my 2tb hdd21:59
yofelvbgunz: do you have the partner repos enabled? sun-java6 is there21:59
eagles0513875im gonna leave this installing ill see if it errors and let you know exactlyw hat its saying ikonia22:00
ikoniaeagles0513875: no, you havd issues with gpt partition tables as I recall, not different versions of stuff22:00
vbgunzI had to run this sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ maverick partner"  ... otherwise, it's not where I could easily enable it from kpackagekit22:00
yofelodd, partner *should* be there by default (or did you upgrade? I'm don't know what's supposed to happen there)22:01
dmattPooBakery: have you tried setting application rule, it might survive logout22:01
vbgunzyeah I upgraded from lucid22:02
PooBakerydmatt: that might work, but then I can't have multiple windows with different behavior22:03
dmattPooBakery: i don;t know your use case, but did you think about using activities?22:06
westyi need to mount my drives at boot (why wouldnt you want that on a desk top system? it should be automatic)22:07
PooBakerywhat are activities?22:07
westyso i need to make sure I am reading the latest on configuring fstab22:07
westylifehacker has an article on activities: http://lifehacker.com/5668873/use-kde-activities-to-create-different-desktops-for-work-and-personal-use22:08
dmattthanks westy :)22:08
westydmatt: do you know where i can find the latest on setting up my drives to automount22:10
dmattjust add it to fstab and that is enough22:11
dmatt/etc/fstab22:11
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ilikaHey guys, why cant I login X? on GIU it wont login but it kernel mode it does login strange22:17
ilikaanyone ?22:19
James147ilika: could you explain your problem in abit mroe detail?22:21
westydmatt: copy it from where? where do i get the uuid from to add to my lines in fstab?22:26
ilikaJames147: When I input my login / pass when kubuntu loads KDE it blicks red as if my username and password is incorrect, but when I login via Console - everything logs in just fine.22:26
ilikablinks*22:26
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westyyou root?22:27
ilikayes22:28
westyyou are trying to log in as root?22:28
westywhy is the iPhone less supported with Kubuntu then with Ubuntu?22:29
ilikawesty: no, the username is apogee22:30
James147ilika: what happens if you kill kdm and try running "startx" from the terminal?  (to stop kdm run "sudo stop kdm")22:31
ilikao one second22:32
ilikait says "waiting for X server to shut down ddxSigGiveup: Closing log22:32
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dmattwesty: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid22:33
James147:s never seen that message before22:33
James147^^ ilika22:33
ilikahmm22:33
dmattwesty: but you can use /dev/sdax format as well22:33
ilikaso whats my best bet?22:37
PooBakerydoes anybody here understand how kstart works? More specifically, how do window rule and window class work?22:37
kkathmandid the developers get rid of disk usage analyzer in 10.10 ?22:37
ilikais ubuntu more stable than kubuntu?22:40
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macoilika: in the case of the X server thing? um well ubuntu desktop doesnt hit that bug exactly, no.  it just flat out kills X without mercy instead of actually fixing it though :)22:41
maco(this is on the list of "fun things i learn at developer summits")22:42
ilikaI think im gonna be better off with gnome22:43
ilikaIs there a way to "reset" settings to default or anything?22:43
maco!purgegnome22:43
ilikaor need to clean install all agaion?22:43
maco!puregnome22:43
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome22:43
macoclearly my typing is biased :P22:43
ilikai installed kubuntu, not ubuntu22:44
macothats fine22:44
ilikaok22:44
macothe webpage has directions for how to remove all the kde stuff and install the gnome stuff22:44
macothe underlying architecture is exactly the same. the only difference is evolution / firefox / empathy versus kontact / rekonq / kopete and the menus/panels/login-screen22:45
ilikaaptitude command not found22:45
macouse apt-get22:46
ilikaok22:46
macoaptitude isnt installed by default in 10.1022:46
* maco should go fix that wiki page22:46
ilikapacke kubuntu-desktop is not installed , so not removed22:46
ilikapackage*22:46
ilikawhen i type startx pc just goes black22:48
ilikablack screen22:48
ilikahard drive led not even blinking22:48
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ilikaI think its because its on hibernate or something, what would be a command to purely reboot the box22:50
ilikashutdown -r?22:50
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ilikaand whats console different to terminal? or same thing?22:51
macosame thing22:52
macoand yes, shutdown -r or "reboot" to reboot22:53
macodid you install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome installed?22:53
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ilikanope22:54
ilikai think im just gonna reinstall ubuntu netbook edition22:54
ilikai uploaded the problem in a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNOvGhUUrQM22:55
westycat /var/log/kdm23:01
westycat /var/log/kdm .log rather23:01
westyif x is not configured kdm cant start23:01
ilikawesty: me ?23:02
westyilika: yeah lol23:02
westyilika: sorry23:02
ilikait loaded yesterday23:02
westyilika: updates?23:02
ilikaconfig changed by itself?23:02
ilikayeah23:02
macoilika: were you logged in, and logged out, and then tried to log back in?23:03
macoX has a bug where it doesnt respond to the "ok now restart" command that kdm sends it23:03
westyilika: what changed, try reading the file at /var/log/apt/history23:03
macothis is a known bug23:03
ilikai don't know it just wont login via GUI interface23:03
ilikaonly via console23:03
macogdm doesnt use that command. instead it force-kills X and then starts it up again, which is why logging out and in again works fine23:03
ilikaso what do I do?23:04
westybut it worked before the update?23:05
westyilika: but it worked before the update?23:05
westyIs it still ok to use pysdm with Maverick?23:05
ilikawesty: yes it did23:06
ilikawesty the log file is huge23:06
westyyeah but you can get to the end :)23:06
ilika i guess ill just reinstall23:07
ilikaubuntu netbook version23:07
westyilika: the log lists what packages went in on what days. if its a package related to x it can cause problems23:07
westycould he dpkg reconfigure x or whatever ubuntu's way of reconfiguring X is?23:08
ilikait was a new install with firefox and chrome23:08
ilikaand wireshark, but wireshark installed many more pakages with it23:09
westyi think it looks more like x cant start23:09
ilikait cant, I type X23:09
ilikaand it just goed dark23:09
ilikagoes23:09
westysounds like a poorly configed video driver to me23:10
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westyagain what does the log say! read the last entry and also look at kdm error log too. it also is in /var/log/23:10
ilikaill just reinstall, Ill try out gnome23:11
westyubuntu's nice.23:11
ilikaive always used kde23:11
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westyyeah I cant leave KDE23:11
westylook install gnome then bring in KDE23:11
ilikabut anyway both have a nice interface for netbooks23:11
westyi like Gnome on the laptop, KDE on the desktop23:12
westyIs it still ok to use pysdm with Maverick?23:12
ilikadoes gnome have a gui package installer?23:12
ilikalike kpackage23:13
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wilhartwhy does my procector video flicker on playback? mplayer,. nvidia, vpdau23:14
westyilika: you can use the Ubuntu package manager, or Synaptic23:14
macowesty: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has not done *anything* to configure graphics since 2007 or 2008, and i really wish people would stop uselessly recommending it23:15
westyilika: Ubuntu is very polished, Gnome doesnt have all the tricks that KDE does, but the Ubuntu desktop is very easy to use23:15
westymaco: I said what ever Ubuntu's way of doing things is....I didnt out and out recommend it.23:15
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macothere also hasnt been an xorg.conf by default since 200823:15
westymaco: what in Ubuntu?23:16
macoX autoconfigures itself23:16
macoX hasn't *needed* an xorg.conf since 2008, so Ubuntu hasn't shipped one since then23:16
maco(some features of proprietary drivers still need one, though, so X still supports having one and will use it if you write one up)23:17
russia_bearааллоо23:17
maco!ru23:17
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke23:17
westymaco: yeah, i know you can still have one, and often need one for certain devices, but like I said, whatever method used here. I have been using Debian Sid for the last 3 years so.....23:18
macothere is no command to configure X is my point23:19
russia_bearвыфп рав  воатр  влаор лва вар арлор23:19
russia_bear?23:19
macoi mean, *if its starting* you can use xrandr (if you're not using proprietary nvidia drivers)23:19
westyFunny that because of the Freeze for Squeeze, Debian Sid KDE is older then Kubuntu's. And thats why I am here.23:19
macobut if X won't start and you think it's a config thing not a bug... the only thing to do is to type out an xorg.conf23:20
maco!ru | russia_bear23:20
ubotturussia_bear: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke23:20
wilhartanyone have same issues than me with flicering on playback23:20
wilhart?23:20
russia_bear?23:21
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usa_bearok23:21
wilhartheh23:21
wilharti'm watching a movie called bear23:21
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wilhart_bearyes23:22
macowill you pick one and stick to it?23:22
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maco_bear?23:22
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maco_fukoI have quest23:23
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level1I'm having trouble with wireless.  My wireless adapter is recognized but no networks show up, even though there are many wireless access points in the area.23:23
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level2level1 and?23:24
level1level2, and I can't connect to my WAP.  I want to.  How do I?23:25
level2I know that maco know that question... go to maco23:25
* maco waits23:27
wilhartu got deopped?23:28
macono23:29
macowell...i mean, not unintentionally23:29
wilhartoh long time i used irc23:29
wilhartlike 20 years23:30
macothere is a policy against staying op'd when not in the middle of kicking / banning / quieting23:30
macoif all 20-ish of the channel's ops were op'd all the time, itd look too hostile23:30
macoso we just op up when we need to23:30
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wilhartmaco do you know anything about "kde effects+playback with mplayer pdau with nvidia card" ?23:33
maconope23:33
macoi'm an intel user23:33
wilhartu have to run nvidia-settings and there choose vsync to monitor223:33
wilhartbut wheni fiddle around while watching i get tearing :P23:34
wilhartsad23:34
wilharti think they have fixed that in some ways but dunno23:35
wilhart.. would like new nvidia drivers23:35
wilhartis there any beta nvidia drivers?23:35
level1so, yeah, my adapter is not finding any wireless networks, what do i do?  I just bought the thing, and the compatability lists said it was good.23:35
wilhartmaco, btw what do you think about backports?23:35
macowhat about them?23:35
wilhartmaco, what does it install?? beta software?23:36
macoi suppose i should start trying to contribute to them... i wonder how i get backports upload rights...23:36
maconah, just newer releases23:36
macoso if you're on 10.04 and you want the version thats in 10.10 you can request it23:36
wilhartmaco, and i should enable it with kpackagemanger?23:36
macoand then someone will package it23:36
macowell they aren't very well-maintained23:36
macoonce a package is backported, it may not get anymore bugfix or security updates23:36
wilhartmaco, what is best way to add it to repos?23:37
maco(while the version actually in the regular repos will)23:37
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Poyntzknetwork manager wont connect to wireless. pls help23:40
Poyntzit was working last night..23:41
wilhartmaco, that backports is empty23:42
wilhartmaco, nothin to upgrade :D23:42
macowilhart: are you on 10.10?23:44
macogiven very little's gone into 11.04 yet itd be surprising if anything was backported23:44
wilhartmaco, ye23:45
Poyntzi click on my wireless network, then it says "activating"... but drops out after.a minute23:45
kyubutsuPoyntz: restart the service23:47
Poyntzkyubutsu: activating..23:49
Poyntzkyubutsu: dropped out again23:49
kyubutsuhave had numerous times where my wifi craps out. i try restarting the service by deactivating it for a minute by clicking on knetwork icon and unchecking corresponding entry placed on the lower right corner23:50
Poyntzkyubutsu: doing that now23:52
kyubutsuthen check it back on, and see you can do a network scan23:52
Poyntzkyubutsu: it definitely comes up with my network23:53
kyubutsuyou sure of having the right credentials for it23:54
Poyntzkyubutsu: activating...23:54
Poyntzkyubutsu: dropped out agaim23:54
Poyntzkyubutsu: it tells me im getting an 80 percent signal from my wifi23:55
Poyntzkyubutsu: but still keeps failing.. weirdly yesterday i tried turning off and on my router n it fixed it23:56
Poyntzkyubutsu: tried numerous times today but didnt work23:57
Poyntzshould i download wicd? reinstall knetworkmanager ?23:57
wilhartany nice programs for kubuntu23:58
kyubutsuright, thats the course of action i take, i just keep trying and eventually lets me in..  lately i havent had issues though23:58
kyubutsuabout wicd or any other method .. thats on you.. i like knetwork manager [specially when it works ]23:59
Poyntzkyubutsu: i do too.. its just not working :/23:59

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