[00:50] just wanted to say i love the distro sleek and fast nice work [01:00] scruffyfur: why thank you, i try i try :D [01:00] phillw: ^^ ping [01:01] stlsaint: you pang? [01:02] scruffyfur: thank you for taking the time to log on and say thanks, it makes all the hard work worth it when people do so. [01:03] scruffyfur: also remember we have a chill out area to just 'chat' at #lubuntu-offtopic [01:04] phillw: just wanted to point out me taking credit :D [01:04] hehe [03:19] how do i change the clock time to not 24:00 format [03:21] czz: right click the clock and select the preferences tab [03:21] stlsaint, only see "Digital Clock settings" [03:22] well use that then, im currently not in lubuntu [03:24] stlsaint, clock format is "%R" [03:24] what do i change that to? [03:25] sorry, i cant view the actual options as i am not in lubuntu, there should be a option to change time format [03:26] stlsaint, fire up vmware :) [03:29] well i will fire up vbox, i dont use vmware [03:30] fair enough [03:30] hi all.... I don't get a display after a fresh install [03:31] after searching the web they say to select nomodeset when I am at the install screen, but that is not an option on the lubuntu install screen [03:31] any ideas? [03:33] czz: try changing to lowercase r [03:33] turtle_: nomodeset for what? [03:33] stlsaint, the seconds show up though.... [03:34] true but its not in 24 hour ;) [03:34] stlsaint: under other options at install screen (f6) [03:34] well i guess it still is technically [03:34] turtle_: i mean why do you want nomodeset? [03:35] stlsaint: I'm not sure if I do, it was just a solution on ubuntuforums to get my graphics card to work [03:36] turtle_: what kind of graphics card do you have? [03:36] nvidia geforce 9300ge [03:37] [#UltimateEditio] not really a torrent that is used: [03:37] [#UltimateEditio] not really a torrent that is used: [03:37] turtle_: you using latest lubuntu? [03:37] stlsaint: no I'm trying to put the LTS on [03:38] turtle_: and when you install your grapchis doesnt work? [03:39] stlsaint: yes, I just get a no signal on my monitor after grub [03:40] turtle_: are you using xorg.conf? [03:41] stlsaint: I can't get that far to edit it [03:42] but you could see your screen when you isntalled yes? boot again to the livecd [03:43] I can see it in a live session [03:43] but not after the restart post install [03:46] turtle_: right, we are going to have a look see if your using xorg.conf on your install [03:47] stlsaint: okie dokie [03:54] stlsaint: do you want me to do that from the live session or somehow get to CLI? [03:56] turtle_: you can go from livecd if its easier [03:57] stlsaint: Do I do an install first? [03:58] turtle_: i thought you already had it installed? [03:58] stlsaint: yep I do sorry [03:59] turtle_: just boot to a livecd without installing anything [04:01] stlsaint: doing so now [04:13] it's taking a while to reboot [04:17] stlsaint: alrighty I'm in a live session [04:17] click on your hard drive where the install is [04:18] yep [04:18] turtle_: look in your /etc/X11 folder [04:19] yep [04:20] do you see a file titled: xorg.conf [04:22] turtle_: ? [04:23] stlsaint: no [04:24] stlsaint: only rgb.txt, X, Xreset, Xsession, Xsession.options, Xwrapper.config [04:25] turtle_: this a desktop your having issues with? [04:25] stlsaint: yes [04:26] stlsaint: just seems weird that a live session works, but an install doesn't [04:26] turtle_: can you look on the iso filesystem for a xorg.conf [04:28] stlsaint: checked the /etc/X11 on the disk and there isn't one there either [04:31] turtle_: run this command in terminal: lspci | grep VGA [04:32] it says [04:32] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev al) [04:35] stlsaint: and VGA is red [04:35] kk, one sec [04:35] turtle_, are you using nvidia-glx-180 [04:36] I think that's for your card [04:36] turtle_: create a file called xorg.conf and put this into into it: http://pastebin.com/KLnTKbLe [04:37] turtle_: make it look just like that ^^ [04:37] stlsaint: ok I'll do that now [04:38] turtle_: you will be putting that file into the /etc/X11 directory [04:39] stlsaint: yep I assumed that thanks [04:41] stlsaint: done [04:41] turtle_: reboot and see if it works :D [04:42] turtle_: if it doesnt than get back into livecd to get back into this channel [04:42] stlsaint: yep It's rebooting now [04:43] stlsaint: nope still no success, monitor no input after grub. I'll reboot the machine into live [04:45] turtle_: no input is the error? [04:46] stlsaint: yeah the monitor says no input [04:47] stlsaint: It's sitting back in the live session now [04:50] turtle_: rather odd issue [04:53] stlsaint: very :-( [04:57] stlsaint: It makes me sad as the only other option on the machine is vista [04:58] turtle_: do you have a option at grub to boot into recovery mode [04:58] yep [04:58] stlsaint: yes but I get the same result [04:59] stlsaint: I tried it hoping that it would boot into CLI [05:00] turtle_: alright, looks like we are going to have to use chroot to configure nvidia [05:03] turtle_: open a terminal [05:03] stlsaint: sounds sexy [05:05] turtle_: select your installation drive again from your places menu [05:06] stlsaint: yep [05:08] turtle_: run: cd /media [05:09] turtle_: in that dir you should see a long string of characters [05:10] stlsaint: as in you want me to type /media into terminal? [05:10] turtle_: the command: cd /media [05:12] stlsaint: yep I have the string [05:13] one sec [05:14] turtle_: try running this comman: sudo chroot /media/long_string (just type the first three characters and hit the tab button for auto complete [05:16] stlsaint: yep I have no idea what that command does but its done [05:16] any errors? [05:16] no [05:17] awesome [05:17] turtle_: next command: cd /etc/X11 [05:18] yep [05:18] turtle_: next command: ls [05:19] yep [05:19] do you see the xorg.conf in there still [05:19] turtle_: ^^ [05:19] stlsaint: yes [05:19] turtle_: cool [05:20] turtle_: next command: sudo nvidia-xconfig [05:22] stlsaint: it said unable to resolve host ubuntu, command not found [05:23] turtle_: enter it without the sudo part, so just: nvidia-xconfig [05:23] command not found [05:23] it said unable to resolve host ubuntu, command not found [05:24] opps sorry [05:24] np [05:24] it says "nvidia-xconfig: command not found" [05:27] turtle_: do you have internet to this machine? [05:27] stlsaint: yes I have it hooked up via ethernet [05:28] turtle_: enter command: apt-get install nvidia-glx [05:28] shucks i forgot you may have to allow some repos [05:28] hmm it has no installation candidate [05:29] oh that will explain it [05:29] stlsaint: it found nvidia-current though [05:29] should I grab that [05:31] one sec [05:31] i think that maybe new package replacing -glx [05:32] turtle_: yep go for it [05:32] stlsaint: ok I'll grab it [05:32] turtle_: apt-get install nvidia-current [05:33] stlsaint: yep I'll let you know when it's done [05:42] turtle_: hows it coming? [05:43] stlsaint: It's getting there, I don't have a very fast connection [05:47] stlsaint: it says 7mins if you believe the counter [05:54] stlsaint: it returned a handful of errors [05:54] turtle_: throw me a few [05:55] the last one being "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [05:56] prior to that there was saying a non-dpkg owned copy of libc6-i686 package was found and it is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation [05:56] also cannot create /dev/null: permission denied [05:58] I'm going to try and reboot into the installation with nomodeset and install it from there if i can [05:59] turtle_: well probably should have done a update/dist-upgrade [06:00] stlsaint: ok I'll go through all that if the nomodeset boots [06:01] damn no joy [06:02] turtle_: order of commands need to be: [06:02] (after you have chrooted into the harddrive again, dont forget to select it from your places menu first and get to it in the terminal with the cd /media command [06:02] ) [06:03] 1. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [06:03] 2. apt-get install nvidia-current [06:03] 3. nvidia-xconfig [06:04] turtle_: run those commands and hopefully you will be up and running [06:05] stlsaint: ok thanks I'll reboot into a live session and start again [06:06] turtle_: dont forget to do the chroot into the install drive [06:07] stlsaint: yep thanks I'm just scrolling up to where you told me how to do it [06:07] turtle_: ill give process again: [06:08] turtle_: 1. Select the hard drive from the palces menu [06:08] turtle_: 2. enter command: cd /media/string_of_characters (again just type the first two characters and hit the tab button) [06:09] (sorry...do not cd into the string of characters) [06:09] turtle_: 2. this is the correct command: cd /media [06:09] yep done [06:10] now I understand what chroot does it's easy :) [06:10] dist-upgrade will convert me to 10.10 wont it? [06:10] turtle_: nope [06:10] stlsaint: ok sweet as I want to stay on LTS [06:10] turtle_: yes chroot is a very useful tool for various things [06:11] turtle_: have you already rebooted and gotten back into system? [06:12] stlsaint: yes, but apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade returns two errors [06:12] what errors? [06:12] E: Method http has died unexpectedly! [06:12] E: Sub-process http returned an error code (100) [06:12] FATAL -> Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor [06:13] turtle_: tbh i would suggest a fresh install and verify that your install medium (cd) isnt corrupted [06:13] hmm ok [06:13] I'll do a checksum [06:13] turtle_: aye, fresh install and if still no video working than try the chroot method again [06:14] stlsaint: ok thanks for your help so far, you're a champion [06:14] haha, im only a champ if you get some working video...till then im a nobody ;) [06:15] lol [06:15] alrighty so begins the install again... [06:17] i must go...ttyl [06:17] ok tvym and ttyl [06:17] l8er folks [11:43] hello people === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:41] How can I get my Main Menu icon to shade fully on mouse-over? Right now the bottom-third of the icon doesn't shade. What dimension should I use for the icon to avoid this? http://imgur.com/sQJdj.png [12:41] Dear Leader Kim Jong Un would not approve [12:42] Oh, Sweet Prince! [12:43] Is there a show desktop shortcut? [12:43] Yes [12:43] And... LOL [12:43] That button next to Kim Jong [12:43] Click it [12:47] I meant a keyboard shortcut, sorry [12:47] Like meta-D or anything? [12:48] Dunno [12:48] Does Openbox do keyboard shortcuts? [12:48] Okey. Any idea on the icon shading or suggested icon size? [12:49] meta-E launches file manager [12:50] What size is your panel? [12:51] Try Win d [12:51] 24 pixels. Enlarging it will enlarge the shading on Sweet Prince's image but the other icons in the panel don't fit then [12:52] Win-D doesn't work ): [12:52] Weird [12:52] I'll figure out the keyboard shortcut w/ this: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings [12:52] According to my openbox rc.xml file that's the default show desktop combination [12:54] [12:54] [12:54] Woops. That's in my rc.xml too ): [12:54] W closing [12:54] (w/) [12:54] Is it commented out? [12:55] No. Does the D have to be uppercase? [12:55] cuz it twasn't [12:55] No [12:55] It's just the Windows/Super key and the d key [12:56] is kim long the model on lubuntu.net [12:56] jong [12:56] it must be her [12:59] He's the paramount leader of the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea [12:59] I added keybind W-d to ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml but it didn't seem to do it [13:00] He drinks a lot and never admits defeat [13:00] szczur: hello [13:00] oh that dude yeah kim jong [13:00] It's his kid Jong Un [13:00] szczur: is there anyway when click the icone minimize all i dont wanna affect the conky window [13:00] Our Dear Leader [13:00] he is a whackjob [13:00] any idea how [13:01] szczur: last night i searched for script lue to have hings like you [13:02] I got meta-D working after finding the right place in lubuntu-rc.xml... seems the rc.xml in the folder isn't doing much [13:02] but i didnt [13:02] mark76: Thanks for the help [13:02] kosaidpo, i have bad news for ya, i don't know how to do it and neither my friend :( [13:02] No problem [13:02] as for the minimizing conky [13:02] szczur: ahh and please can you past me your script to test it in mine ? [13:03] for me its workin well with pcmanfm [13:03] so jong's kid wrote lubuntu [13:03] mark76: any idea hows to keep conky window not minimized when iclick the minimize all [13:03] i'll paste my conkyrc and lua script [13:03] ok [13:03] Nope [13:03] Don't use Conky [13:03] pastbin it [13:03] I like a clean desktop :D [13:03] http://pastebin.com/fQihj3R5 [13:03] mark76: okay [13:03] kosaidpo, conkyrc [13:04] szczur: lua file icant put wherever right and then point to it in the conkyrc [13:04] Is it kosher to run multiple instances of conky? [13:04] kosaidpo, http://pastebin.com/NDC3ZAcS [13:04] rings.lua [13:04] i have it in my .scripts folder in my home [13:05] Yes [13:05] szczur: okies ill tell you if it works for me : ) [13:05] thabks [13:05] thanks szczur [13:05] :) [13:05] no problem [13:05] clean desktop http://imgur.com/TNkAn.jpg [13:05] with this configuration it should be located on bottom left of your screen [13:06] djs, WOOOOOT? [13:06] north korea leader? [13:06] The log-out button is missing from that icon theme [13:06] mark76: Was that Yes to 'Is it kosher to run multiple instances of conky?' [13:06] #lubuntu [13:06] Yes [13:06] thx [13:06] hey guys, may i ask you something :D [13:07] szczur: Leader and Sweet Prince [13:07] i started using lubuntu copuple days ago ... [13:07] and i have some missunderstanding [13:07] i was wondering , cn desktop icons be unlocked so i position them where i want on desktop ? [13:08] Simsic88, not with this version of PCmanFM [13:08] but it is possible with the new one [13:08] don't know when it will be released [13:08] thank you very much, greetings from serbia :D [13:08] Simsic88, http://blog.lxde.org/?p=811 [13:09] Hello Serbia! [13:09] No, No [13:09] It's [13:09] HELLOOOOO SERBIAAAAA!!!!!! [13:09] SERBIAAAA WUT WUT [13:09] WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SERIIIIIIIIIIBAAAAAAAAAA [13:09] hahahahaha :D [13:09] OMGGG [13:10] yes i saw this blog post , when i googled it ... [13:10] PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR SERBIA [13:10] Nealry lunchtime :) [13:10] * djs raises the roof [13:10] I LOVE THIS COUNTRY [13:10] WUT WUT [13:10] THA ROOF IS ON FIREE [13:10] mark76, it's only 07:00 AM (: [13:11] in serbia is 2 pm ... :D [13:11] Have you been up hacking the Gibson all nite again? [13:11] You must be in the Americas [13:11] I'm in North Korea? [13:11] Wait, where am I? [13:11] djs, three most common passwords are? [13:11] Love, Sex, GOD [13:11] :) [13:11] ^^ [13:11] WEEE [13:11] * szczur loves djs [13:12] MOCP playing: Fedde Le Grande - Put Your Hands Up For Detroit - 101 Ibiza Anthems - CD2 By BSBT RG - 01:31/02:26 [13:12] szczur: doesnt launch up at all : ( [13:12] Without a handle, I don't have an identity man! [13:12] WE'RE NAMELESSS [13:12] Crash... AND Burn! [13:12] According to WhoIs you're in Pittsburgh [13:12] Mess with the best [13:12] die like the rest [13:12] Or at least your server is [13:13] Not quite Pittsburgh; MN [13:13] Minnesota [13:13] szczur: make it work [13:13] has to change own_window [13:13] modify it to show in pcmanfm [13:14] kosaidpo, check the differences between old and new conky [13:14] szczur: uhm ?? well its in my desktop now [13:14] mark76: What's for lunch? ^_^ [13:14] Noobs? [13:14] particualry in own_window [13:14] Scrambled egg sandwich [13:14] szczur: i put in it yes [13:14] mmmm [13:14] kosaidpo, i can't help you because i failed to make it work with pcmanfm [13:14] so i gave up [13:15] well its pretty cool but i dont get wht the first one means [13:15] btw i dont get it wht u mean to make it work in pcmmanfm [13:15] you mean like display it in the browser file ?? [13:15] like a file or sumthin [13:16] because pcmanfm is managing your desktop right now [13:16] so you have all the icons and etc. [13:16] but conky have problems to run on top of it [13:16] as i see [13:17] szczur: uhmm well i guess its lxde whos managin it uhn not true ? [13:18] not exactly, what you see on the desktop is actually pcmanfm. [13:18] run killall pcmanfm and *poof* icons will disappear [13:18] but probably you will get conky :) (without wallpaper) :P [13:19] szczur: Ohh uhm [13:19] i guess i can take off the cairo part is it ?? [13:19] szczur: if iwanna add some variable of conky [13:19] where shud i put em [13:19] in conkyrc right ?? [13:19] don't know, i never managed to work it out [13:20] as i said before i failed to run conky with pcmanfm running at the same time [13:20] so i can't help you [13:20] http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/1163/conky-widget-dissapears-when-pcmanfm-manages-desktop-resolved/ [13:20] try this [13:20] maybe it will help [13:21] ok [13:25] szczur: can you please tell me whats the first circle for [13:25] is it for swap ?? [13:26] first circle? [13:26] Time [13:26] but i see only the circle and not the number [13:26] second CPU, third MEM and SWAP [13:27] yeah, that's correct [13:27] szczur: but how i can kno time from a circle LOOL [13:27] look http://szczur.ath.cx this > http://szczur.ath.cx/sshots/screen4.png [13:28] circle in the center (thickest one) is the hour [13:28] middle is the minutes [13:28] and the thinner are the seconds [13:28] thinnest* [13:28] okay but stiff tuff to kno the tim tho :) [13:28] ill see the links [13:29] http://szczur.ath.cx/clock.png [13:29] you'll get the idea :) [13:30] yeh i got it from urs cus in the top of it thers a num of time [13:30] but mine not [13:30] hang on ill screenshot it [13:31] io know, because my digital timer is from the taskbar not from the conky [13:31] digital clock* [13:32] OHh see [13:32] well mine is in the bottom [13:33] here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/2udukbs.png [13:33] what about if iwanna make em bigger ?? [13:34] hmmm [13:34] u saw the screenshot [13:34] ?? [13:35] yeah [13:35] alter the radius in your rings.lua [13:35] for each and every ring you want to make bigger [13:35] ok [13:37] uhm okay i tried it but make it worse [13:38] i guess must have a good tast [13:38] n some logic of how the script works [13:40] ill stick with mine thanks szczur : D [13:40] a question please can you classify from the lighter these debian ,lubuntu ,archlinux === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett === collin is now known as collinp [17:05] how do I change from openbox to metacity? :) === collin is now known as collinp [18:25] hi fellow Lubuntu users . Suggest me some 2d games . specially with online multiplayer [18:25] 2D with multiplayer [18:26] http://www.introversion.co.uk/defcon/ [18:26] I mean online multiplayer . like frozen bubble [18:26] gtetrinet - multiplayer tetris-like game [18:27] somehow most of the network games are 3D [18:28] ya I know that but my computer is PIII with 256 ram which is too low for 3d play I think .If there are light 3d games plz tell me [18:29]