[00:50] <scruffyfur> just wanted to say i love the distro sleek and fast nice work
[01:00] <stlsaint> scruffyfur: why thank you, i try i try :D
[01:00] <stlsaint> phillw: ^^ ping
[01:01] <phillw> stlsaint: you pang?
[01:02] <phillw> scruffyfur: thank you for taking the time to log on and say thanks, it makes all the hard work worth it when people do so.
[01:03] <phillw> scruffyfur: also remember we have a chill out area to just 'chat' at #lubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <stlsaint> phillw: just wanted to point out me taking credit :D
[01:04] <stlsaint> hehe
[03:19] <czz> how do i change the clock time to not 24:00 format
[03:21] <stlsaint> czz: right click the clock and select the preferences tab
[03:21] <czz> stlsaint, only see "Digital Clock settings"
[03:22] <stlsaint> well use that then, im currently not in lubuntu
[03:24] <czz> stlsaint, clock format is "%R"
[03:24] <czz> what do i change that to?
[03:25] <stlsaint> sorry, i cant view the actual options as i am not in lubuntu, there should be a option to change time format
[03:26] <czz> stlsaint, fire up vmware :)
[03:29] <stlsaint> well i will fire up vbox, i dont use vmware
[03:30] <czz> fair enough
[03:30] <turtle_> hi all.... I don't get a display after a fresh install
[03:31] <turtle_> after searching the web they say to select nomodeset when I am at the install screen, but that is not an option on the lubuntu install screen
[03:31] <turtle_> any ideas?
[03:33] <stlsaint> czz: try changing to lowercase r
[03:33] <stlsaint> turtle_: nomodeset for what?
[03:33] <czz> stlsaint, the seconds show up though....
[03:34] <stlsaint> true but its not in 24 hour ;)
[03:34] <turtle_> stlsaint: under other options at install screen (f6)
[03:34] <stlsaint> well i guess it still is technically
[03:34] <stlsaint> turtle_: i mean why do you want nomodeset?
[03:35] <turtle_> stlsaint: I'm not sure if I do, it was just a solution on ubuntuforums to get my graphics card to work
[03:36] <stlsaint> turtle_: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[03:36] <turtle_> nvidia geforce 9300ge
[03:37] <stlsaint> [#UltimateEditio] not really a torrent that is used:
[03:37] <stlsaint> [#UltimateEditio] not really a torrent that is used:
[03:37] <stlsaint> turtle_: you using latest lubuntu?
[03:37] <turtle_> stlsaint: no I'm trying to put the LTS on
[03:38] <stlsaint> turtle_: and when you install your grapchis doesnt work?
[03:39] <turtle_> stlsaint: yes, I just get a no signal on my monitor after grub
[03:40] <stlsaint> turtle_: are you using xorg.conf?
[03:41] <turtle_> stlsaint: I can't get that far to edit it
[03:42] <stlsaint> but you could see your screen when you isntalled yes? boot again to the livecd
[03:43] <turtle_> I can see it in a live session
[03:43] <turtle_> but not after the restart post install
[03:46] <stlsaint> turtle_: right, we are going to have a look see if your using xorg.conf on your install
[03:47] <turtle_> stlsaint: okie dokie
[03:54] <turtle_> stlsaint: do you want me to do that from the live session or somehow get to CLI?
[03:56] <stlsaint> turtle_: you can go from livecd if its easier
[03:57] <turtle_> stlsaint: Do I do an install first?
[03:58] <stlsaint> turtle_: i thought you already had it installed?
[03:58] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep I do sorry
[03:59] <stlsaint> turtle_: just boot to a livecd without installing anything
[04:01] <turtle_> stlsaint: doing so now
[04:13] <turtle_> it's taking a while to reboot
[04:17] <turtle_> stlsaint: alrighty I'm in a live session
[04:17] <stlsaint> click on your hard drive where the install is
[04:18] <turtle_> yep
[04:18] <stlsaint> turtle_: look in your /etc/X11 folder
[04:19] <turtle_> yep
[04:20] <stlsaint> do you see a file titled: xorg.conf
[04:22] <stlsaint> turtle_: ?
[04:23] <turtle_> stlsaint: no
[04:24] <turtle_> stlsaint: only rgb.txt, X, Xreset, Xsession, Xsession.options, Xwrapper.config
[04:25] <stlsaint> turtle_: this a desktop your having issues with?
[04:25] <turtle_> stlsaint: yes
[04:26] <turtle_> stlsaint: just seems weird that a live session works, but an install doesn't
[04:26] <stlsaint> turtle_: can you look on the iso filesystem for a xorg.conf
[04:28] <turtle_> stlsaint: checked the /etc/X11 on the disk and there isn't one there either
[04:31] <stlsaint> turtle_: run this command in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[04:32] <turtle_> it says
[04:32] <turtle_> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev al)
[04:35] <turtle_> stlsaint: and VGA is red
[04:35] <stlsaint> kk, one sec
[04:35] <bioterror> turtle_, are you using nvidia-glx-180
[04:36] <bioterror> I think that's for your card
[04:36] <stlsaint> turtle_: create a file called xorg.conf and put this into into it: http://pastebin.com/KLnTKbLe
[04:37] <stlsaint> turtle_: make it look just like that ^^
[04:37] <turtle_> stlsaint: ok I'll do that now
[04:38] <stlsaint> turtle_: you will be putting that file into the /etc/X11 directory
[04:39] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep I assumed that thanks
[04:41] <turtle_> stlsaint: done
[04:41] <stlsaint> turtle_: reboot and see if it works :D
[04:42] <stlsaint> turtle_: if it doesnt than get back into livecd to get back into this channel
[04:42] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep It's rebooting now
[04:43] <turtle_> stlsaint: nope still no success, monitor no input after grub. I'll reboot the machine into live
[04:45] <stlsaint> turtle_: no input is the error?
[04:46] <turtle_> stlsaint: yeah the monitor says no input
[04:47] <turtle_> stlsaint: It's sitting back in the live session now
[04:50] <stlsaint> turtle_: rather odd issue
[04:53] <turtle_> stlsaint: very :-(
[04:57] <turtle_> stlsaint: It makes me sad as the only other option on the machine is vista
[04:58] <stlsaint> turtle_: do you have a option at grub to boot into recovery mode
[04:58] <turtle_> yep
[04:58] <turtle_> stlsaint: yes but I get the same result
[04:59] <turtle_> stlsaint: I tried it hoping that it would boot into CLI
[05:00] <stlsaint> turtle_: alright, looks like we are going to have to use chroot to configure nvidia
[05:03] <stlsaint> turtle_: open a terminal
[05:03] <turtle_> stlsaint: sounds sexy
[05:05] <stlsaint> turtle_: select your installation drive again from your places menu
[05:06] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep
[05:08] <stlsaint> turtle_: run: cd /media
[05:09] <stlsaint> turtle_: in that dir you should see a long string of characters
[05:10] <turtle_> stlsaint: as in you want me to type /media into terminal?
[05:10] <stlsaint> turtle_: the command: cd /media
[05:12] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep I have the string
[05:13] <stlsaint> one sec
[05:14] <stlsaint> turtle_: try running this comman: sudo chroot /media/long_string  (just type the first three characters and hit the tab button for auto complete
[05:16] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep I have no idea what that command does but its done
[05:16] <stlsaint> any errors?
[05:16] <turtle_> no
[05:17] <stlsaint> awesome
[05:17] <stlsaint> turtle_: next command: cd /etc/X11
[05:18] <turtle_> yep
[05:18] <stlsaint> turtle_: next command: ls
[05:19] <turtle_> yep
[05:19] <stlsaint> do you see the xorg.conf in there still
[05:19] <stlsaint> turtle_: ^^
[05:19] <turtle_> stlsaint: yes
[05:19] <stlsaint> turtle_: cool
[05:20] <stlsaint> turtle_: next command: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:22] <turtle_> stlsaint: it said unable to resolve host ubuntu, command not found
[05:23] <stlsaint> turtle_: enter it without the sudo part, so just: nvidia-xconfig
[05:23] <turtle_> command not found
[05:23] <stlsaint> it said unable to resolve host ubuntu, command not found
[05:24] <stlsaint> opps sorry
[05:24] <turtle_> np
[05:24] <turtle_> it says "nvidia-xconfig: command not found"
[05:27] <stlsaint> turtle_: do you have internet to this machine?
[05:27] <turtle_> stlsaint: yes I have it hooked up via ethernet
[05:28] <stlsaint> turtle_: enter command: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:28] <stlsaint> shucks i forgot you may have to allow some repos
[05:28] <turtle_> hmm it has no installation candidate
[05:29] <turtle_> oh that will explain it
[05:29] <turtle_> stlsaint: it found nvidia-current though
[05:29] <turtle_> should I grab that
[05:31] <stlsaint> one sec
[05:31] <stlsaint> i think that maybe new package replacing -glx
[05:32] <stlsaint> turtle_: yep go for it
[05:32] <turtle_> stlsaint: ok I'll grab it
[05:32] <stlsaint> turtle_: apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:33] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep I'll let you know when it's done
[05:42] <stlsaint> turtle_: hows it coming?
[05:43] <turtle_> stlsaint: It's getting there, I don't have a very fast connection
[05:47] <turtle_> stlsaint: it says 7mins if you believe the counter
[05:54] <turtle_> stlsaint: it returned a handful of errors
[05:54] <stlsaint> turtle_: throw me a few
[05:55] <turtle_> the last one being "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:56] <turtle_> prior to that there was saying a non-dpkg owned copy of libc6-i686 package was found and it is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation
[05:56] <turtle_> also cannot create /dev/null: permission denied
[05:58] <turtle_> I'm going to try and reboot into the installation with nomodeset and install it from there if i can
[05:59] <stlsaint> turtle_: well probably should have done a update/dist-upgrade
[06:00] <turtle_> stlsaint: ok I'll go through all that if the nomodeset boots
[06:01] <turtle_> damn no joy
[06:02] <stlsaint> turtle_: order of commands need to be:
[06:02] <stlsaint> (after you have chrooted into the harddrive again, dont forget to select it from your places menu first and get to it in the terminal with the cd /media command
[06:02] <stlsaint> )
[06:03] <stlsaint> 1. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:03] <stlsaint> 2. apt-get install nvidia-current
[06:03] <stlsaint> 3. nvidia-xconfig
[06:04] <stlsaint> turtle_: run those commands and hopefully you will be up and running
[06:05] <turtle_> stlsaint: ok thanks I'll reboot into a live session and start again
[06:06] <stlsaint> turtle_: dont forget to do the chroot into the install drive
[06:07] <turtle_> stlsaint: yep thanks I'm just scrolling up to where you told me how to do it
[06:07] <stlsaint> turtle_: ill give process again:
[06:08] <stlsaint> turtle_: 1. Select the hard drive from the palces menu
[06:08] <stlsaint> turtle_: 2. enter command: cd /media/string_of_characters (again just type the first two characters and hit the tab button)
[06:09] <stlsaint> (sorry...do not cd into the string of characters)
[06:09] <stlsaint> turtle_: 2. this is the correct command: cd /media
[06:09] <turtle_> yep done
[06:10] <turtle_> now I understand what chroot does it's easy :)
[06:10] <turtle_> dist-upgrade will convert me to 10.10 wont it?
[06:10] <stlsaint> turtle_: nope
[06:10] <turtle_> stlsaint: ok sweet as I want to stay on LTS
[06:10] <stlsaint> turtle_: yes chroot is a very useful tool for various things
[06:11] <stlsaint> turtle_: have you already rebooted and gotten back into system?
[06:12] <turtle_> stlsaint: yes, but apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade returns two errors
[06:12] <stlsaint> what errors?
[06:12] <turtle_> E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
[06:12] <turtle_> E: Sub-process http returned an error code (100)
[06:12] <turtle_> FATAL -> Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor
[06:13] <stlsaint> turtle_: tbh i would suggest a fresh install and verify that your install medium (cd) isnt corrupted
[06:13] <turtle_> hmm ok
[06:13] <turtle_> I'll do a checksum
[06:13] <stlsaint> turtle_: aye, fresh install and if still no video working than try the chroot method again
[06:14] <turtle_> stlsaint: ok thanks for your help so far, you're a champion
[06:14] <stlsaint> haha, im only a champ if you get some working video...till then im a nobody ;)
[06:15] <turtle_> lol
[06:15] <turtle_> alrighty so begins the install again...
[06:17] <stlsaint> i must go...ttyl
[06:17] <turtle_> ok tvym and ttyl
[06:17] <stlsaint> l8er folks
[11:43] <kosaidpo> hello people
[12:41] <djs> How can I get my Main Menu icon to shade fully on mouse-over? Right now the bottom-third of the icon doesn't shade. What dimension should I use for the icon to avoid this? http://imgur.com/sQJdj.png
[12:41] <djs> Dear Leader Kim Jong Un would not approve
[12:42] <djs> Oh, Sweet Prince!
[12:43] <djs> Is there a show desktop shortcut?
[12:43] <mark76> Yes
[12:43] <mark76> And... LOL
[12:43] <mark76> That button next to Kim Jong
[12:43] <mark76> Click it
[12:47] <djs> I meant a keyboard shortcut, sorry
[12:47] <djs> Like meta-D or anything?
[12:48] <mark76> Dunno
[12:48] <mark76> Does Openbox do keyboard shortcuts?
[12:48] <djs> Okey. Any idea on the icon shading or suggested icon size?
[12:49] <djs> meta-E launches file manager
[12:50] <mark76> What size is your panel?
[12:51] <mark76> Try Win d
[12:51] <djs> 24 pixels. Enlarging it will enlarge the shading on Sweet Prince's image but the other icons in the panel don't fit then
[12:52] <djs> Win-D doesn't work ):
[12:52] <mark76> Weird
[12:52] <djs> I'll figure out the keyboard shortcut w/ this: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings
[12:52] <mark76> According to my openbox rc.xml file that's the default show desktop combination
[12:54] <djs>   <keybind key="W-d">
[12:54] <djs>     <action name="ToggleShowDesktop"/>
[12:54] <djs> Woops. That's in my rc.xml too ):
[12:54] <djs> W closing </keybind>
[12:54] <djs> (w/)
[12:54] <mark76> Is it commented out?
[12:55] <djs> No. Does the D have to be uppercase?
[12:55] <djs> cuz it twasn't
[12:55] <mark76> No
[12:55] <mark76> It's just the Windows/Super key and the d key
[12:56] <ubuXubu> is kim long the model on lubuntu.net
[12:56] <ubuXubu> jong
[12:56] <ubuXubu> it must be her
[12:59] <mark76> He's the paramount leader of the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea
[12:59] <djs> I added keybind W-d to ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml but it didn't seem to do it
[13:00] <djs> He drinks a lot and never admits defeat
[13:00] <kosaidpo> szczur: hello
[13:00] <ubuXubu> oh that dude yeah kim jong
[13:00] <djs> It's his kid Jong Un
[13:00] <kosaidpo> szczur: is there anyway when  click the icone minimize all i dont wanna affect the conky window
[13:00] <djs> Our Dear Leader
[13:00] <ubuXubu> he is a whackjob
[13:00] <kosaidpo> any idea how
[13:01] <kosaidpo> szczur: last night i searched for script lue to have hings like you
[13:02] <djs> I got meta-D working after finding the right place in lubuntu-rc.xml... seems the rc.xml in the folder isn't doing much
[13:02] <kosaidpo> but i didnt
[13:02] <djs> mark76: Thanks for the help
[13:02] <szczur> kosaidpo, i have bad news for ya, i don't know how to do it and neither my friend :(
[13:02] <mark76> No problem
[13:02] <szczur> as for the minimizing conky
[13:02] <kosaidpo> szczur: ahh and please can you past me your script to test it in mine ?
[13:03] <kosaidpo> for me its workin well with pcmanfm
[13:03] <ubuXubu> so jong's kid wrote lubuntu
[13:03] <kosaidpo> mark76: any idea hows to keep conky window not minimized when iclick the minimize all
[13:03] <szczur> i'll paste my conkyrc and lua script
[13:03] <kosaidpo> ok
[13:03] <mark76> Nope
[13:03] <mark76> Don't use Conky
[13:03] <kosaidpo> pastbin it
[13:03] <mark76> I like a clean desktop :D
[13:03] <szczur> http://pastebin.com/fQihj3R5
[13:03] <kosaidpo> mark76: okay
[13:03] <szczur> kosaidpo, conkyrc
[13:04] <kosaidpo> szczur: lua file icant put wherever right and then point to it in the conkyrc
[13:04] <djs> Is it kosher to run multiple instances of conky?
[13:04] <szczur> kosaidpo, http://pastebin.com/NDC3ZAcS
[13:04] <szczur> rings.lua
[13:04] <szczur> i have it in my .scripts folder in my home
[13:05] <mark76> Yes
[13:05] <kosaidpo> szczur: okies ill tell you if it works for me : )
[13:05] <kosaidpo> thabks
[13:05] <kosaidpo> thanks szczur
[13:05] <szczur> :)
[13:05] <szczur> no problem
[13:05] <djs> clean desktop http://imgur.com/TNkAn.jpg
[13:05] <szczur> with this configuration it should be located on bottom left of your screen
[13:06] <szczur> djs, WOOOOOT?
[13:06] <szczur> north korea leader?
[13:06] <mark76> The log-out button is missing from that icon theme
[13:06] <djs> mark76: Was that Yes to 'Is it kosher to run multiple instances of conky?'
[13:06] <Simsic88> #lubuntu
[13:06] <mark76> Yes
[13:06] <djs> thx
[13:06] <Simsic88> hey guys, may i ask you something :D
[13:07] <djs> szczur: Leader and Sweet Prince
[13:07] <Simsic88> i started using lubuntu copuple days ago ...
[13:07] <Simsic88> and i have some missunderstanding
[13:07] <Simsic88> i was wondering , cn desktop icons be unlocked so i position them where i want on desktop ?
[13:08] <szczur> Simsic88, not with this version of PCmanFM
[13:08] <szczur> but it is possible with the new one
[13:08] <szczur> don't know when it will be released
[13:08] <Simsic88> thank you very much, greetings from serbia :D
[13:08] <szczur> Simsic88, http://blog.lxde.org/?p=811
[13:09] <djs> Hello Serbia!
[13:09] <mark76> No, No
[13:09] <mark76> It's
[13:09] <mark76> HELLOOOOO SERBIAAAAA!!!!!!
[13:09] <djs> SERBIAAAA WUT WUT
[13:09] <szczur> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SERIIIIIIIIIIBAAAAAAAAAA
[13:09] <Simsic88> hahahahaha :D
[13:09] <szczur> OMGGG
[13:10] <Simsic88> yes i saw this blog post , when i googled it ...
[13:10] <szczur> PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR SERBIA
[13:10] <mark76> Nealry lunchtime :)
[13:10]  * djs raises the roof
[13:10] <szczur> I LOVE THIS COUNTRY
[13:10] <djs> WUT WUT
[13:10] <szczur> THA ROOF IS ON FIREE
[13:10] <djs> mark76, it's only 07:00 AM (:
[13:11] <Simsic88> in serbia is 2 pm ... :D
[13:11] <djs> Have you been up hacking the Gibson all nite again?
[13:11] <mark76> You must be in the Americas
[13:11] <djs> I'm in North Korea?
[13:11] <djs> Wait, where am I?
[13:11] <szczur> djs, three most common passwords are?
[13:11] <djs> Love, Sex, GOD
[13:11] <szczur> :)
[13:11] <szczur> ^^
[13:11] <szczur> WEEE
[13:11]  * szczur loves djs
[13:12] <szczur> MOCP playing: Fedde Le Grande -  Put Your Hands Up For Detroit -  101 Ibiza Anthems - CD2 By BSBT RG  - 01:31/02:26
[13:12] <kosaidpo> szczur: doesnt launch up at all : (
[13:12] <djs> Without a handle, I don't have an identity man!
[13:12] <szczur> WE'RE NAMELESSS
[13:12] <djs> Crash... AND Burn!
[13:12] <mark76> According to WhoIs you're in Pittsburgh
[13:12] <szczur> Mess with the best
[13:12] <szczur> die like the rest
[13:12] <mark76> Or at least your server is
[13:13] <djs> Not quite Pittsburgh; MN
[13:13] <djs> Minnesota
[13:13] <kosaidpo> szczur: make it work
[13:13] <kosaidpo> has to change own_window
[13:13] <szczur> modify it to show in pcmanfm
[13:14] <szczur> kosaidpo, check the differences between old and new conky
[13:14] <kosaidpo> szczur: uhm ?? well its in my desktop now
[13:14] <djs> mark76: What's for lunch? ^_^
[13:14] <djs> Noobs?
[13:14] <szczur> particualry in own_window
[13:14] <mark76> Scrambled egg sandwich
[13:14] <kosaidpo> szczur: i put in it yes
[13:14] <djs> mmmm
[13:14] <szczur> kosaidpo, i can't help you because i failed to make it work with pcmanfm
[13:14] <szczur> so i gave up
[13:15] <kosaidpo> well its pretty cool but i dont get wht the first one means
[13:15] <kosaidpo> btw i dont get it wht u mean to make it work in pcmmanfm
[13:15] <kosaidpo> you mean like display it in the browser file ??
[13:15] <kosaidpo> like a file or sumthin
[13:16] <szczur> because pcmanfm is managing your desktop right now
[13:16] <szczur> so you have all the icons and etc.
[13:16] <szczur> but conky have problems to run on top of it
[13:16] <szczur> as i see
[13:17] <kosaidpo> szczur: uhmm well i guess its lxde whos managin it uhn not true ?
[13:18] <szczur> not exactly, what you see on the desktop is actually pcmanfm.
[13:18] <szczur> run killall pcmanfm and *poof* icons will disappear
[13:18] <szczur> but probably you will get conky :) (without wallpaper) :P
[13:19] <kosaidpo> szczur: Ohh uhm
[13:19] <kosaidpo> i guess i can take off the cairo part is it ??
[13:19] <kosaidpo> szczur: if iwanna add some variable of conky
[13:19] <kosaidpo> where shud i put em
[13:19] <kosaidpo> in conkyrc right ??
[13:19] <szczur> don't know, i never managed to work it out
[13:20] <szczur> as i said before i failed to run conky with pcmanfm running at the same time
[13:20] <szczur> so i can't help you
[13:20] <szczur> http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/1163/conky-widget-dissapears-when-pcmanfm-manages-desktop-resolved/
[13:20] <szczur> try this
[13:20] <szczur> maybe it will help
[13:21] <kosaidpo> ok
[13:25] <kosaidpo> szczur:  can you please tell me whats the first circle for
[13:25] <kosaidpo> is it for swap ??
[13:26] <szczur> first circle?
[13:26] <szczur> Time
[13:26] <kosaidpo> but i see only the circle and not the number
[13:26] <szczur> second CPU, third MEM and SWAP
[13:27] <szczur> yeah, that's correct
[13:27] <kosaidpo> szczur: but how i can kno time from a circle LOOL
[13:27] <szczur> look http://szczur.ath.cx this > http://szczur.ath.cx/sshots/screen4.png
[13:28] <szczur> circle in the center (thickest one) is the hour
[13:28] <szczur> middle is the minutes
[13:28] <szczur> and the thinner are the seconds
[13:28] <szczur> thinnest*
[13:28] <kosaidpo> okay but stiff tuff to kno the tim tho :)
[13:28] <kosaidpo> ill see the links
[13:29] <szczur> http://szczur.ath.cx/clock.png
[13:29] <szczur> you'll get the idea :)
[13:30] <kosaidpo> yeh i got it from urs cus in the top of it thers a num of time
[13:30] <kosaidpo> but mine not
[13:30] <kosaidpo> hang on ill screenshot it
[13:31] <szczur> io know, because my digital timer is from the taskbar not from the conky
[13:31] <szczur> digital clock*
[13:32] <kosaidpo> OHh see
[13:32] <kosaidpo> well mine is in the bottom
[13:33] <kosaidpo> here you go http://i52.tinypic.com/2udukbs.png
[13:33] <kosaidpo> what about if iwanna make em bigger ??
[13:34] <szczur> hmmm
[13:34] <kosaidpo> u saw the screenshot
[13:34] <kosaidpo> ??
[13:35] <szczur> yeah
[13:35] <szczur> alter the radius in your rings.lua
[13:35] <szczur> for each and every ring you want to make bigger
[13:35] <kosaidpo> ok
[13:37] <kosaidpo> uhm okay i tried it but make it worse
[13:38] <kosaidpo> i guess must have a good tast
[13:38] <kosaidpo> n some logic of how the script works
[13:40] <kosaidpo> ill stick with mine thanks szczur : D
[13:40] <kosaidpo> a question please can you classify from the lighter these debian ,lubuntu ,archlinux
[17:05] <civixier> how do I change from openbox to metacity? :)
[18:25] <home-alone> hi fellow Lubuntu users . Suggest me some 2d games . specially with online multiplayer
[18:25] <bioterror> 2D with multiplayer
[18:26] <bioterror> http://www.introversion.co.uk/defcon/
[18:26] <home-alone> I mean online multiplayer . like frozen bubble
[18:26] <bioterror> gtetrinet - multiplayer tetris-like game
[18:27] <bioterror> somehow most of the network games are 3D
[18:28] <home-alone> ya I know that but my computer is PIII with 256 ram which is too low for 3d play I think .If there are light 3d games plz tell me
[18:29] <bioterror> ahhh
[18:30] <bioterror> http://www.happypenguin.org/ :((((((((((((((((
[18:31] <home-alone> the site is down sir
[18:31] <bioterror> yeah
[18:33] <home-alone> any other gamr ..?
[18:33] <home-alone> game
[18:33] <bioterror> thinking
[18:36] <bioterror> does prboom support network
[18:36] <bioterror> yeah :D
[18:36] <bioterror> you can play doom :D
[18:37] <home-alone> well if you coul tell apt get command to install
[18:37] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install prboom
[18:38] <bioterror> then you need to get wad -files
[18:38] <home-alone> how to get them
[18:38] <bioterror> Getting a Doom IWAD
[18:38] <bioterror> The IWAD is the main data file containing the graphics and levels for Doom. You need one to use PrBoom. If you have a copy of one of the original Doom games, copy your Doom, Doom 2, Ultimate Doom or Final Doom IWAD (doom.wad, doom2.wad, tnt.wad or plutonia.wad) to /usr/local/share/games/doom/. Or, if you don't have any of those, use the shareware IWAD, which you can get from http://www.doomworld.com/
[18:38] <bioterror> or http://www.idsoftware.com/.
[18:41] <home-alone> ok I am trying it . will let you know the details . excuse my english plz
[18:41] <bioterror> we can play together :D
[18:43] <home-alone> ya .  are you interest in playin frozen bubble..or even street fighter ii on gens
[18:43] <bioterror> frozen bubble is a little boring :-)
[18:43] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:43] <bioterror> just a moment
[18:44] <mark76> Frozen bubble is annoying
[18:44] <mark76> You get so far and then it starts giving you all the wrong colours
[18:44] <home-alone> no I thought it was boring but its very addictive .
[18:45] <mark76> I'd say it's annoying and addictive
[18:45] <bioterror> does FreeCol support tcp/ip
[18:46] <bioterror> FreeCiv has always been network game
[18:47] <home-alone> I havent heared of those you are mentioning .
[18:49] <bioterror> takes a while to find my doom disks from shelves ;)
[18:50] <bioterror> yeah
[18:50] <bioterror> FreeCol is a network game
[18:51] <home-alone> While doom is in installing . i am conused about IWAD thing you told me . could you tell me exect download link for that .
[18:51] <szczur> home-alone, i recommend Hedgewars
[18:51] <szczur> if you liked worms, this is what you need
[18:52] <szczur> http://hedgewars.org
[18:52] <szczur> also hi bioterror mark76 phillw and the rest of the team
[18:52] <bioterror> howdy
[18:52] <mark76> Hey szczur
[18:53] <djs> Bastard Bubble
[18:53] <szczur> ohh, and hi SuperLazer
[18:53] <szczur> aka djs
[18:53] <djs> Call me "The Plauge"
[18:54] <szczur> you wish :P
[18:54] <djs> Serbia in the house!
[18:54] <szczur> shall no fear, I is here
[18:54] <djs> Cereal Killer
[18:54] <mark76> Call you the what, now?
[18:55] <djs> The Plague
[18:55] <mark76> Ah
[18:55] <djs> From 1995 film Hackers
[18:55] <szczur> djs, why you have Korean counrty leaders if you're from Serbia? :P
[18:55] <mark76> I shall call you Betty
[18:55] <mark76> And you can call me Al :)
[18:55] <djs> szczur: I'm the American, the Serbian asked a question here earlier
[18:55] <scruffyfur> lol al
[18:55] <djs> Hi Al
[18:56] <mark76> Or just Mark
[18:56] <szczur> ah, right
[18:56] <mark76> The Serbian sounds sinister
[18:56] <djs> Alliteration
[18:56] <scruffyfur> Al sounds sinister
[18:56] <szczur> Altern-8
[18:57] <mark76> There was a band called Altern 8 back in the 90s
[18:57] <djs> So clever
[18:57] <djs> Almost as good as Boys II Men
[18:57] <szczur> MOCP playing: Altern 8 -  Brutal-8-E -  Full On..Mask Hysteria - 00:28/05:48
[18:58] <szczur> :)
[18:58] <djs> Take it into -offtopic! (:
[18:58] <home-alone> I have installed prboom how to install wad files now . help plz
[18:59] <szczur> home-alone, if you're going to try Hedgewars, I'd wait because now there's a "commit spree" before the next release
[18:59] <djs> I like Lubuntu w/ the Update Manager
[19:00] <home-alone> i couldnt understan szcuur..?
[19:00] <djs> home-alone: I think szczur is saying that a new version Hedgewars comes out soon and you might want to wait until that is released
[19:01] <szczur> home-alone, new version of this game will be released today (hopefully) so if you would like to try this i would wait just to save time for installing
[19:01] <bioterror> damn
[19:01] <bioterror> prboom draws poorly
[19:01] <home-alone> ok . I will wait till tomorrow
[19:02] <home-alone> draws poorly..?
[19:02] <home-alone> how
[19:04] <bioterror> messes sprites
[19:05] <bioterror> I think I'm going to try that freecol
[19:05] <home-alone> what about playing gens multiplayer
[19:06] <djs> I play Assault Cube FPS
[19:07] <szczur> yayz, AC :)
[19:07] <szczur> nice game. another cool FPS is OpenArena
[19:08] <home-alone> well after switiching to Linux I want to fulfill my gaming apetite
[19:08] <djs> Read a book!
[19:08] <djs> heh
[19:10] <djs> AssaultCube is good because there's basically only a few weapons and none of them shoot crazy coloured blobs or pew pew lazers
[19:10] <djs> Snipe, assault rifle, shotgun, pistol, knife... I'm forgetting one
[19:10] <szczur> and it's fast-paced! State of the art... BANG BANG
[19:10] <szczur> :)
[19:11] <djs> Yeah. The lack of crazy coloured weapons is what I like. I don't have to learn WTF the weapons do.
[19:11] <djs> I can just join and get fragged like a noob! Yay!
[19:11] <szczur> One shot One kill is awesome
[19:12] <home-alone> well why do you guyz Lubuntu at first
[19:12] <szczur> because it is fast and awesome :)
[19:13] <szczur> and my PC can't work on GNOME since it's big and bloaty :)
[19:13] <szczur> and i had 512MB RAM
[19:14] <home-alone> I mean I cant afford a new pc so i decided to have lubuntu (though later I completely fell in love with it ) otherwise most of user would go for Ubuntu
[19:15] <djs> I Lubuntu because it's fast and awesome too!
[19:15] <bioterror> djs, machine gun
[19:15] <bioterror> djs, should we hit a server? :D
[19:15] <djs> bioterror: It doesn't run on this machine ):
[19:16] <djs> I have to go to my machine that has Noobuntu 10.10 installed
[19:16] <bioterror> I should go to my desktop :D
[19:16] <djs> >:)
[19:16] <djs> pew pew!
[19:17] <home-alone> so all of you have abandond windows
[19:17] <bioterror> I've always liked those Close Combat -games
[19:17] <bioterror> home-alone, long time ago
[19:18] <bioterror> my wife tells to her friends about linux ;D
[19:18] <home-alone> nice I am new to Linux but now I wonder why everybody is NOT using it
[19:18] <djs> home-alone, whenever possible, yes. I have to @ school ):
[19:18] <szczur> Linux is like a wigwam - No windows, no gates, apache inside
[19:19] <szczur> :)
[19:19] <djs> But I don't install Window$ anywhere NEAR my computers
[19:19] <djs> lol szczur
[19:19] <bioterror> I  could use os x, but then i would like boys insteasd ;)
[19:19] <home-alone> Its reeliable fast flexible and very secure no virus free and open soure and have wonderful people like you guyz
[19:20] <djs> home-alone: I don't think GNU/Linux is an option if you use the iTrendy devices because you can't sync that iPad w/o the man in a black turtleneck
[19:21] <djs> I assume you can't interface iPad w/ Ubuntu at least
[19:21] <bioterror> I'm using phones as my mp3 player and making sure that those works as a usb storage devices
[19:21] <bioterror> so I dont have to sell my soul to mr. (blow) jobs
[19:21] <home-alone> I am more concerned with my part of the world . we simply cant afford expensive softwares . cant even think of buying an ifone
[19:22] <djs> What part of the world is that?
[19:22] <bioterror> you can get iPhone 3G for like 100e
[19:23] <home-alone> I am an MBA + m.A english literature means 18 years of education but my job is less than 100 euro a month .
[19:23] <djs> home-alone, what part of the Big Blue Marble do you reside near?
[19:24] <home-alone> well I am some where in Asia .
[19:24] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:24] <home-alone> u guys semm britz
[19:25] <home-alone> seem
[19:25] <bioterror> should we move this conversation to #lubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <bioterror> since we're not helping ;)
[19:25] <home-alone> i want to come on the topic .
[19:26] <home-alone> I have very bad history when I try to burn an iso
[19:26] <bioterror> does your computer support booting from USB devices?
[19:26] <home-alone> I just throw some 15 cds to junk
[19:27] <bioterror> :o
[19:27] <home-alone> well my pc is like 10 year old so I have no idea
[19:28] <djs> I don't think it would then; mine doesn't.
[19:28] <home-alone> I need your help to burn the cds . i want to share lubuntu with my friends and family
[19:28] <djs> home-alone: Are you going to burn the CDs using Lubuntu or Window$?
[19:29] <ubuXubu> try to burn them at 8x speed
[19:30] <home-alone> well I have no cd writer . so I downlad and copy iso to a usb flash stick and go to my friend has has writer but has xp . i have used nero 7 and freeisoburner . Ya i burnt 8X .
[19:31] <djs> The burned CD didn't work?
[19:32] <home-alone> only lubuntu , puppy liunx and unity linux work
[19:32] <djs> Did you get an error when trying others?
[19:32] <home-alone> I burnt linux mint , xubuntu , debian twice or thrice all of them but they never work
[19:33] <djs> Your computer wouldn't boot into them, or the cd burning software didn't work?
[19:33] <home-alone> computer boots tham but later gives error
[19:34] <home-alone> I have posted on linux and ubuntu forums but got no solution . even i tried a different cd writer of another friend
[19:35] <kosaidpo> is there anyones using dropbox guys ??
[19:35] <djs> Maybe the ISOs burned as CDs okay, but the computer hardware didn't work with the distrobution.
[19:35] <djs> kosaidpo: Just me and home-alone talking here (:
[19:35] <djs> nope
[19:35] <kosaidpo> i jsr wanna kno if theres big chances to face some problem so ill avoid installin it
[19:35] <kosaidpo> in first place
[19:35] <kosaidpo> :S
[19:35] <home-alone> i tried them on many other of my friends computers
[19:36] <kosaidpo> yeh i did in gnome
[19:36] <djs> home-alone: You tried the Mint, Xubuntu, Debian on other computers? OR did you try the Lubuntu, Puppy, Unity on other computers?
[19:36] <kosaidpo> but not with pcmanfm so im wonderin
[19:38] <home-alone> well working cds are working on all computers . non working dont run on any . even I chech md5sum before burning . I want to introduce my friends with this wonderful world of linux but i am very sad
[19:39] <djs> home-alone: Can you introduce your friends with the working CDs?
[19:39] <home-alone> Lubuntu is too ugly for a new user by the way
[19:40] <Timo_> ^ second that
[19:40] <Timo_> But I think lubuntu just needs a good designer to make some nice graphics for it
[19:40] <Timo_> I mean, eyecandy doesn't necessarily need to be resource hungry
[19:40] <home-alone> and it cant be installed inside the windows like Ububtu using wubi or linux mint using similar program
[19:41] <phillw> home-alone: until lubuntu is officially adopted, it will be available via wubi
[19:41] <djs> That's why we should adopt by Kim Jong Un main menu icon!
[19:41] <phillw> *will not  be*
[19:41] <djs> *my
[19:41] <kosaidpo> guys dropbox have deb only for nautilus what abt us ??
[19:42] <djs> kosaidpo: hack the gibson
[19:42] <home-alone> is therea chance that Lubuntu is adopted..?
[19:42] <kosaidpo> djs: what ??? :-(
[19:42] <djs> kosaidpo: Movie quote, nevermind (-:
[19:43] <kosaidpo> djs: haha i dot watch movies well tv in general
[19:43] <kosaidpo> most of the time
[19:43] <phillw> home-alone: it will be adopted, Canonical are working on the adoption process as we speak.
[19:43] <kosaidpo> phillw: will natutlis deb for dropbox work for me ??
[19:43] <Timo_> phillw: what will adoption mean for Lubuntu?
[19:43] <djs> phillw: What does adoption mean? As an official edition/derivative?
[19:44] <kosaidpo> djs:yes and official support
[19:44] <phillw> we will join the full family officially, like xubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu.
[19:44] <kosaidpo> phillw: how ican get dropbox installed ?
[19:45] <kosaidpo> does it work well with pcmanfm ?
[19:45] <phillw> kosaidpo: I've never used it, so I'm afraid I cannot help you, sorry :(
[19:45] <home-alone> this is nice . when you write a distro what chances you assume it will actuly work...? as it is hit or miss for me rather miss most of the time
[19:45] <kosaidpo> phillw: okies ill make search then thanks tho : )
[19:45] <djs> So we want Lubuntu to be listed on this page? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives
[19:47] <djs> I actually don't think Lubuntu is too ugly for a new user btw
[19:47] <phillw> djs: as a documenter, myself, Zach and Jarred are busy on getting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu upto 'required and wanted standards' The devs are busy getting development stuff done.
[19:48] <phillw> this discussion may be better held on #lubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:49] <djs> You don't think it's relevant 'nuff? Well, I'll bookmark and hopefully contribute to that wiki article btw