[00:00] let me look at ndis [00:00] ScottD: what model number are you looking for? perhaps I'm missing something [00:00] I get "exact model number" for xps 17 [00:00] but...is there a specific form or? [00:01] Video cards and wireless cards are the hardware that most often lack proper linux support. [00:01] INtel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 is not listed here: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Category:WORKS&from=Genius+GF3000U [00:01] so unsure as to compatability [00:01] XPS 17 (L701X) [00:01] ScottD: XPS 17 (L701X) [00:01] Searching for ubuntu and chipset/model on google will often give good clues as to how well it works in Ubuntu. [00:01] Cheri703: where in the *bleep* did you find that :) [00:01] Okay well apparently that wifi card works 2.6.31 [00:01] * Cheri703 has amazing google-fu skills [00:02] in 2.6.31* [00:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_XPS [00:02] where did you get that from ScottD? [00:02] Here I was thinking that surely it had to be on the dell website..... [00:02] didn't just go to wiki though (probably should have), found it via googling [00:02] 2.6.31 of what? [00:02] yeah, that makes too much sense for dell head_victim [00:02] Cheri703: I should have known [00:02] hey dell is where its at [00:02] random forum posts on backports.ubuntuforums.org [00:02] as for it's wifi http://download.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/prodbrf/323016.pdf [00:03] I looked around on there as well, but...then off to googling [00:03] but yeah, there you go [00:03] It's ubuntu linux listed as a specified operating system. [00:03] I'm on a dell studio, which works after Broadcom-STA [00:03] so I'd assume XPS would work [00:04] hope that helps ScottD [00:06] Okay so the wifi card appears to work. [00:06] Thanks for your help (: [00:06] I'd say that wifi card looks a lot better than the base model [00:07] Want to buy 2 laptops and post me one? :) [00:08] haha [00:08] Worth a shot, you don't get anything without asking ;) [00:08] I've had this HP dv6 for about a year and half and right after the warranty expired it started falling apart. [00:09] ScottD: classic [00:09] Battery is awful, hard drive has tons of bad sectors, the left clicker thingy is broke... [00:10] new question already... gonna have to learn this fasst. so I can open .py files to edit them, but how can I run them? [00:11] python /file.py [00:11] or sudo chmod +x /file.py and then just the usual /path/to/file.py [00:12] uh [00:12] python file.py [00:12] SPooN: easiest is to to option two that head_victim gave and just make it executbale [00:12] not /file.py [00:12] might have to install python actually... [00:12] true [00:12] Yeah sorry, was carried away :/ [00:12] SPooN, you have python [00:12] +1 pedro [00:12] most likely [00:12] it shows up in synaptic [00:13] SPooN, just try it [00:13] it says it can't find python? [00:14] so if I have the .py saved to desktop... [00:14] sudo chmod +x /blah.py [00:14] ? [00:14] no need to IMO [00:14] python blah.py [00:14] just like that within terminal? [00:15] and FYI it'd be "sudo chmod +x blah.py" [00:15] yes [00:15] hmm tells me no such file or dir.... [00:17] SPooN, cd Desktop [00:17] same err. [00:18] which is odd... [00:18] huh [00:18] meaning I don't have a desktop [00:18] what dir are you on? [00:18] ubuntu 10.10 [00:19] no, directory [00:19] how can I tell? not sure what you mean [00:20] * SPooN is supernew to Ubuntu [00:20] SPooN, type this on the terminal [00:20] cd ~/Desktop [00:21] bash: cd~/Desktop: No such file or directory [00:21] thats the output from cd~/desktop [00:21] SPooN, no, with a space [00:21] cd ~/Desktop [00:21] there is a space between cd and ~... [00:21] oops typo [00:21] :P [00:21] did it work now? [00:21] yes [00:21] and python too? [00:22] Traceback (most recent call last): [00:22] File "idiocy.py", line 2, in [00:22] import getopt, sys, pcap, dpkt, re, httplib, urllib [00:22] ImportError: No module named pcap [00:22] which I assume is an error in the program itself [00:23] SPooN, one moment please [00:23] sure [00:25] !pastebin | SPooN [00:25] SPooN: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:26] thank you aveilleux [00:26] SPooN: install the pastebinit application [00:26] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit [00:26] SPooN: ^^ [00:26] thanks [00:26] :) [00:26] very small app but very useful [00:27] SPooN, sudo apt-get install python-pypcap [00:27] then try again [00:27] do I need to get out of cd ~/desktop [00:28] got out of it, downloading [00:29] pedro3005: File "idiocy.py", line 2, in [00:29] import getopt, sys, pcap, dpkt, re, httplib, urllib [00:29] ImportError: No module named dpkt [00:31] SPooN, yeah, one more moment [00:32] alright, thanks for all the help man [00:33] SPooN, sudo apt-get install python-dpkt [00:35] File "idiocy.py", line 128, in [00:35] main() [00:35] File "idiocy.py", line 20, in main [00:35] cap = pcap.pcap(device) [00:35] File "pcap.pyx", line 194, in pcap.pcap.__init__ [00:35] that's all? [00:36] uhm yes... [00:36] actually [00:36] line above that first [00:36] Traceback (most recent call last): [00:38] SPooN, well, that is surely weird [00:38] where did you get the script from? [00:38] online. [00:38] ..well, yes [00:38] where? [00:38] you know, what website [00:39] its not extraordinarily legit [00:39] its a mod of firesheep [00:39] combined with idiocy [00:41] well are you sure the code is right? [00:41] what is the irc command for last seen? like what were the last things the person said? [00:41] code may not be right. I'll look into it [00:41] Cheri703, AFAIK there's no default IRC command for that.. some bots have that functionality [00:41] Cheri703: there has to be some kind of bot or something tracking logs, most channels don't have a "seen" command [00:42] Cheri703: if you want to see their idle time, you can /whois nickname [00:42] (doesn't work everywhere though) [00:42] Cheri703, you can see when they last logged on if that's of any use [00:42] /ns info [00:42] here on freenode you can do like: /whois pleia2 pleia2 [00:43] to see my idle time (yes, nickname twice) [00:43] well, for ubottu I guess [00:43] pleia2: it's in u-w I'm curious [00:43] I'm pretty sure ubottu doesn't have a seen command [00:43] I've seen a perl script that'll do it... [00:43] hmm...I thought I saw someone use it in there [00:44] pleia2: can I pm you? [00:45] Cheri703: sure [00:51] OpenOffice will be replaced with LibreOffice in 11.04? o: [01:19] ScottD, asap I hope [01:19] Oracle is a badword ;P [01:20] No it is not a bad word, just that they have more commercial interests than sun did [01:20] and sun was not too OS minded as well [01:21] They completely removed MySQL community edition. [01:21] It's back now, but it wasn't when I originally looked. [01:21] Mysql ... I am not too sure about that progressing now [01:21] but it is a good DB as it is [01:22] sofar the only truely free are postgres and couchdb [01:22] both being very different [01:23] most of the big postgres database developers work for enterprisedb, which does a lot of custom postgres stuff [01:23] so while they don't technically have a backing like mysql, by your definition I'm not sure they'd qualify as "truely free" either :) [01:24] by my definition they're both still free, and there are commercial addon options [01:25] so what do you suggest pleia2 [01:25] I still use mysql and postgres, their community version are fantastic [01:25] versions [01:26] we mostly work with small/medium businesses, and the standard versions are fine for that scale [01:30] I wonder how long until Oracle starts charging for VirtualBox [01:31] http://www.opensource.org/licenses/postgresql <- rather weak license, I have doubt if it would pass law [01:32] as in, if company A provides serves with postgresql, and it fails, company B sues and finds out they use that, they could say not fit for purpose [01:32] UndiFineD: the OSI has some pretty strong licensing lawyers working for them and that license is approved, I wouldn't write it off so quickly [01:34] in my country, only Creative Commons have been approved [01:34] Even Osor is not mentioned in any of our law documents [01:34] yeah, it certainly does depend on your country [01:34] which has been developed by the EU [01:35] unfortunately one of the big things I learned about open source licensing at the linux collaboration summit this year is that they're still very US-based when it comes to writing licenses that will stand up [01:35] including what language is used in the documents and such [01:38] it means, we would need to spends millions to certify license by law in each country [01:38] * pleia2 nods [04:46] i just repartitioned my hd and am fixing to install on ubuntu on a dedicated partition anyone have some advice [04:46] remember to buy some installation beer! ;) [04:48] so benpowers23, in what you need some advices? [04:48] i work on a tow boat, im gone from home for a month at a time, were not allowed to have alcohol |-) [04:48] is there anything im missing as far as drive setup or is it as simple as installing on the specific partition [04:50] bioterror: once you allocated the space just tell ubuntu to use the largest free space or do a manual partition install [04:50] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes [04:51] thats why im confused [04:51] stlsaint, best is to wipe whole drive for ubuntu :D [04:54] lol [04:54] HA TAB FAIL [04:54] so, dont fallow the page? [04:55] benpowers23: have you already partitioned some space for ubuntu? [04:55] yes 119 gb [04:56] 181 for windows 119 for ubuntu and 12 for windows recovery [04:56] well [04:56] just choose from installer to use all the required space [04:57] ok [04:57] required == all free space :D [04:57] i will def thank you [04:57] well [04:57] no probs [04:57] be back next prob ;-) [04:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=install-step4b.png [05:51] hello [05:53] haai [05:56] hello all [05:56] i have a question about using dd to image my existing winxp drive for converting to a virutalbox image; in this link: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows they talk about imaging the drive and in step 3, they say *do not* just image the partition; i am already booted to a livecd (coming live from... ;) and have a secondary drive to large enough to hold the dd image--but i do not understand what *not just* the part [05:57] the image will be used in ubuntu instead of a side by side install... [06:47] Hi everyone i planned to conduct a workshop on ubuntu in my college for my juniors,i need some ubuntu posters to post it in my college and make it to spread among the students..Where to get good posters..? [07:00] karthick87: http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/ [07:02] head_victim: Thank you :) Is it possible to edit those posters? [07:03] Most of them have licenses telling you what you can and can't do with them [07:03] If they allow editing then they usually have a source download. [07:04] head_victim: Yes there is a source .svg format. [07:07] Well it seems you're in luck [07:07] Using which software i can edit these .svg format [07:56] Is there a way to download the packages for upgrading to 10.10 without running the upgrade right away? === veebull is now known as away [09:18] I have a Laptop running Ubuntu and a Desktop running Ubuntu. I'm trying to properly run a remote gnome-session from the desktop on the laptop and have sound. [09:20] I'm sure I'm not doing it right because when I run startx on the laptop it starts the local gnome-session windows manager. So what I do is start it with the X command then export my DISPLAY to :0, then "ssh -X myid@mydesktop gnome-session" [09:21] That brings up the desktop's gnome-session. Can someone tell me if that is the standard way or is there a more conventional way of doing this. === karthick87 is now known as karthick87\ === karthick87\ is now known as karthick === karthick is now known as karthick87 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === AbhiJit is now known as Guest27905 === AbhiJit_ is now known as AbhiJit [12:45] I've got an Evolution problem: All my folders (Inbox etc) are suddenly not visible. On clicking the grey button "Mail" the Left-hand panel where the folders should be just shows "On this Computer" "Search Folders" and "Unmatched" At one stage it said 268 messages, 103 unread, but now I can't even see this. This has suddenly happened, with no changes made ... except that it *may* have been after I accepted download of about [12:45] I've got an Evolution problem: (continued) What IS still OK: filters I set up, contacts etc. I'm using POP email from my ISP. There's only one account, set as default, obviously. I'm very new to Ubuntu (got version 10.10) and new to Evolution (version 2.30.3) [12:53] Your first message got cut off at «...*may* have been after I accepted download of about» [13:48] Hi all :) [13:53] hi nlsthzn [13:53] I cannot pronounce your nickname [13:53] pedro3005: Thats ok, neither can I :p [13:53] lol [14:02] I'd go with 'nelsthuzun' :P [14:02] where the 'u' is as it is in the word 'up' [14:02] not like the u's in ubuntu :) [14:04] Joeb454: lol [14:05] :) [14:05] You should learn some afrikaans and use that to pronounce it [14:08] hmm, I know a few south africans that speak afrikaans, I might mention it :P [14:08] need help [14:08] what's up aluex [14:09] my package list broke down [14:10] i've installed openoffice.org but it isn't listed in status yet [14:11] do you get any errors? [14:12] Joeb454, i replaced current one with a backup,and that caused the thing above [14:12] aluex: you replaced the current OpenOffice, or package list? [14:13] Package list [14:13] /var/dpkg.../status-old [14:14] hmm, I don't even have a /var/dpkg directory :-\ [14:15] sorry [14:15] it should be /var/lib/dpkg... [14:15] :P [14:15] ah ok, I'll check there :P [14:16] ok...howcome you replaced it, if you don't mind me asking? [14:17] because the list turned into an empty file by mistake.. [14:17] ah... [14:18] and i dont know that untill i was informed of it after i type apt-get update [14:18] very odd [14:19] aluex: check in /var/backups - there might be one in there [14:19] dpkg.status.* [14:19] looks like the system keeps automatic backups of them [14:20] /var/lib/dpkg/status-old is a backup i used [14:21] and openoffice.org i installed later was not in that list./ [14:23] ...maybe a bit confusing... [14:23] aluex: have you tried using /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 [14:23] or /var/backups/dpkg.status.1.gz [14:24] howto? just cp? [14:24] aluex: if you look in /var/backups/ you'll see there's a number of backups for dpkg.status, so if you wanted to use one, you'd use the following: [14:24] sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/status [14:25] or [14:25] sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.1.gz /var/lib/dpkg/status [14:25] etc. [14:28] Joeb454 ! [14:28] PabloRubianes ! [14:28] hi lukjad [14:28] Joeb454, the directory /var/backups/ id empty. [14:28] is [14:28] PabloRubianes Joeb454 http://www.reddit.com/r/itookapicture/comments/e2hfh/itap_an_early_morning_shot_of_a_street/ [14:28] :D [14:30] I don't get it? [14:30] Joeb454, i wanna remove openoffice.org [14:30] lukjad: nice! [14:30] but it says i haven't installed it [14:31] PabloRubianes :D [14:31] Thanks! [14:31] Joeb454, poke [14:34] hey lukjad [14:34] Joeb454 :D What did you think? [14:35] aluex: sorry, had to go afk briefly. So you want to remove OOo, but the /var/backups/ directory is also empty? [14:35] lukjad: nice [14:35] :D [14:37] and its the reason that my package list is not up-to-date with my current status [14:38] poor aluex [14:39] hmm...do you have /var on a separate partition, by any chance? [14:39] i dont know ...actually, this is a arm-device [14:40] and memory size is small [14:40] so ... oo.o is a bit fat [14:41] * aluex poor aluex [14:41] hmmm...I'm out of ideas, I don't know why it isn't appearing, or if there's any way to recover it, especially with the backups dir being empty as well :( [14:42] and is there any way to remove a software not listed in the package list..? [14:46] but i can see oo.o in dpkg -l [14:46] hey am new to linux but am diggin it...have a laptop heat issue [14:47] Andyy47: what's the problem exactly? [14:47] Can you describe it in detail? [14:47] this toshiba runs hot and stalls? [14:48] so the fan isn't working properly I guess? [14:48] Andyy47, what are the system specs? ram, etc [14:49] ok elsewhere amd dual core at 2gig 3 gig ram bestbuys l305d [14:49] fan does push heat under any load is hot [14:51] this is recent install nodual boot or anything [14:51] would the amd64 ubuntu 9.10 work around this? [14:57] does fan have more than one speed? === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [16:59] hi [17:00] Hello [17:01] someone here, who is good with port enabling/forwarding? :P [17:01] Daniel0108: 'sup [17:02] aveilleux: so, you can help me? :) [17:02] Daniel0108: just ask and if someone knows a solution they will tell === collin is now known as collinp [17:03] okay :P [17:03] so.. I got a new router: Thomson twg850... I want to forward my 80 port, but I think this port is not enabled... [17:03] i always get "Connection timed out" error... :( [17:04] this is for outgoing connections, or for incoming connections? [17:04] I want to setup a server ;) [17:04] do you have a server running now? [17:05] Daniel0108: Have you taken a look at http://portforward.com/ ? [17:05] first I want to try on my computer, then I do the same thing on my server ;) [17:05] yea, I always have... it didn't help... [17:05] Daniel0108: you have to have the server running first, then forward connections to it [17:05] oops xD I meant I already looked there :P [17:05] Daniel0108: I assume you're running Apache on Ubuntu? [17:06] yeah, I HAVE the server running on my computer, I have LAMP :) [17:06] if you forward connections to . . . nothing, then you will be disappointed. [17:06] yes [17:06] Apache with LAMP [17:06] so you can connect to that server from the same computer that runs it. [17:06] ? [17:06] yes [17:06] ok, good [17:06] and I can connect from my other pc(which is also connected to the router) [17:07] and they are both on the internal network [17:07] Daniel0108: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/TWG850/HTTP.htm You found this? [17:07] all pcs in my network can connect, so my server works ;) [17:07] yes, I exactly found this, aveilleux :) [17:08] Daniel0108: I've had this issue before, on Verizon... try configuring Apache to run on port 8080 and try then. Your ISP might block port 80. [17:08] okay ;) thanks :) [17:08] I will try [17:10] can you please tell me where the config file for apache is, when I installed Lampp? :P [17:10] too lazy to search :P [17:11] /etc/apache2/ [17:11] i dont have apache directory, I installed Lampp... [17:11] ps: I know that lampp is using apache ;) [17:11] Daniel0108: Apache is installed when you install LAMP. Linux Apache Mysql PHP [17:12] Daniel0108: You *should* have an /etc/apache2/ directory, or else there's something seriously wrong with your Apache install [17:12] but I installed lampp to /opt/lampp/ [17:12] i just installed lampp, lol :P [17:13] omg [17:13] what? [17:13] Um, [17:13] what? [17:13] we actually have another dodgy compiled lamp service [17:13] What, really [17:13] Gross [17:14] :P I downloaded an installer ;) [17:14] that's not my fault ;) [17:14] Daniel0108: Can you link where you got the installer? I can have a look-see [17:15] umm... I don't know anymore, but it installed lampp to /opt/lampp/ directory... [17:15] if you want, I can reinstall lampp ;) [17:16] Daniel0108: That's not entirely helpful, anything can install into /opt; I'm looking for your specific implementation of Lampp [17:16] okay, wait, I'm searching for the link ;) [17:17] oh, wait, I just did everything, apachefriends told me... :P [17:17] http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#377 [17:17] that should help you ;) [17:18] xampp, hmm, not very secure [17:18] hmm [17:18] phillw, [17:18] can you give me a suggestion for a better program? [17:18] apache, mysql, php [17:19] phillw, wrote a manaul for it :) [17:20] okay, thanks ;) [17:20] Daniel0108: I second UndiFineD's suggestion of installing Apache, Mysql and PHP separately rather than installing XAMPP, because updates are available for it and if you don't need the MP part then you can just install the A alone ;-) [17:20] I'm a new to such things :P I'm usually a programmer ;) [17:20] Daniel0108: have a read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=119 [17:20] thanks, I will read :) [17:21] try using tasksel on your system, it should get the missing stuff. [17:21] thanks :P [17:21] I did hold that as a classroom a few months back, it's just easier to find my notes on my own forum :) [17:24] there is a problem with tasksel... [17:24] tasksel: aptitude failed (100) :( [17:24] phillw, ^ [17:25] sudu tasksel [17:25] :PP sorry, my fault ;) [17:25] *sudo tasksel* [17:25] another aptitude task was running in the background ;) [17:26] lol, yeah, that catches me sometimes :) [17:26] haha :) [17:26] I always forget to close synaptics :P >.< [17:26] i never really open in [17:27] should I open it? [17:27] no ;) not really :P [17:27] just if you want xD [17:27] ok :P [17:27] * SPooN is new to ubuntu and has no idea what he's doing [17:28] okay, finished installation, now /etc/apache2 is aviable [17:28] * Mohan_chml is the same as SPooN [17:29] *available [17:29] I have to change ports.conf, right? [17:34]