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tumbleweedari-tczew: yeah, should probably be fixed - it breaks the Maintainer link for many packages. I've thought about doing something about it too (without ever actually doing anything)00:07
ari-tczewthanks tumbleweed for support00:08
ScottKari-tczew: You don't need support.  You just need to go get it fixed.  As in #launchpad.00:11
ScottKAs/Ask00:11
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ari-tczewScottK: Asked.00:13
ari-tczewScottK: could you take a look on a patch related to python? patch requires python 2.6. should do I change it to 2.7?00:27
ari-tczewhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/ntfs-config/natty/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/python24-remove.patch00:27
* ScottK looks00:27
ScottKari-tczew: What problem is this solving?00:28
ari-tczewScottK: revision says: Don't explicitely depend on a versioned python interpreter.00:28
ari-tczewno bug reported for this one00:28
ari-tczewand added by doko00:28
ari-tczewScottK: during review PTS/BTS I found an information about change: debian/rules: add export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python00:31
ari-tczewis it a workaround for above patch?00:31
ScottKThe change you linked me to is from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/ntfs-config/natty/revision/900:32
ScottKThe don't explicitly depend on ... change doko did was rev 11.00:33
ScottKSo I'm a little confused what your question is.00:34
ScottKGuessing, I think you'd want 2.6 and 2.7 in there, but that's a guess.  If you don't understand it, either test and experiment until you do or leave it for someone else.00:35
ari-tczewScottK: I'm pretty sure that we can drop this patch. Debian has implemented some changes for it.00:36
ari-tczewScottK: Right, patch was added in revision 7 without explanation by Riddell, then twice updated.00:36
ScottKari-tczew: I'd be sure.  People get grumpy if ntfs-config is broken.00:36
ari-tczewScottK: so I'm asking you for be sure: lookin' on Debian bug 589015 they have fixed it00:37
ubottuDebian bug 589015 in src:ntfs-config "ntfs-config and python 2.6" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/58901500:37
ari-tczewthey have added "export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python" in debian/rules00:38
ScottKari-tczew: I'm busy with other stuff at the moment.  You need to consider that Debian has 2.5 and 2.6 and we will have 2.6 and 2.7 when you look at it.00:38
ScottKThat might do it.00:38
ScottKI'm just not in a position to investigate00:38
ari-tczewScottK: I'll build debian package on natty. I'll test it. if it works, can we sync?00:39
ScottKari-tczew: I don't know and don't have enough time to find out for sure, but that sounds reasonable.00:39
ari-tczewok00:40
tumbleweedari-tczew: looks good for syncing to me (wonders why I'm still awake...)00:45
ari-tczewtumbleweed: what is your timezone in UTC?00:45
tumbleweedUTC+200:46
ari-tczewtumbleweed: the same as mine! when do you wake up?00:47
tumbleweeddepends when I go to sleep :P00:47
ari-tczewtumbleweed: ah! got it now00:49
ari-tczewhow can I use requestsync for universe as I'm MOTU?00:49
micahgari-tczew: should be no different than anyone else, if you use --lp, it won't subscribed -sponsors and should just marked confirmed00:50
ari-tczewmicahg: just not working as you wrote :/00:51
ari-tczewit subscribing sponsors00:51
micahgwith --lp?00:51
ScottKari-tczew: With the email version it will ask you if you have upload rights for Universe.  Say yes.00:51
ScottKmicahg: pyxpcom is FTBFS and looks like it might benefit from someone who understand Mozilla stuff.  Would you please have a look at it.00:52
ari-tczewmicahg: alias reqsync='requestsync --lp -s -d unstable'00:52
micahgScottK: I think we're blacklisting it, but I"ll look into it, thanks00:52
ScottKmicahg: Not successfully.00:52
ScottK;-)00:53
micahgoops, meant we'll be blacklisting it :)00:53
micahgari-tczew: -s forces sponsorship (i.e. subscribe sponsors)00:53
* ari-tczew is testing without -s...00:55
micahgari-tczew: also, -d unstable is default for non-LTS00:55
ari-tczewmicahg: natty is non-LTS right?00:55
macoari-tczew: right00:55
ari-tczewso also can I remove it from alias?00:56
ScottKari-tczew: Now that you have that figured out, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58061073/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.gdcm_2.0.16-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz could use some linking help if you're looking for something that needs doing.00:57
ari-tczewScottK: curiosity question: do you need this FTBFS fixed for something?00:59
ScottKari-tczew: No.  Just noticed it was of a relatively trackable class of FTBFS (linking failures) and thought you might be up for fixing it.00:59
ari-tczewScottK: That's right, but I'm guessing about move this operation to FeatureFreeze stage.01:00
ScottKari-tczew: Linker failures are unlikely to go away on their own.01:00
ari-tczewbefore FeatureFreeze get changes from Debian as more as possible01:00
ScottKIt's certainly up to you to decide what your work is.01:01
* micahg notes there's 3.5 months until FF01:01
ari-tczewScottK: tomorrow I can look01:01
ScottKGreat.01:01
ari-tczewmicahg: a lot or a little?01:01
ari-tczewfrom your POV01:02
ari-tczewScottK, tumbleweed: ntfs-config from Debian works fine. I'm going to sync it.01:03
ari-tczewdo I need to give an explanation of sync if I'm MOTU?01:03
ari-tczew(requestsync use)01:03
micahgari-tczew: a lot, and yes, you need to give an explanation for the archive-admins01:04
* micahg would think at least01:04
ari-tczewI just saw fresh ScottK's sync bug and he gave explanation.01:05
ScottKari-tczew: That was an easy one because Debian did the exact same change we did.  For this one, it's a different fix, so needs a bit more explaination.01:06
ari-tczewwhen I decided to remove package in universe, is enough to subscribe ubuntu-archive?01:07
micahgari-tczew: no, there should be an explanation for the AAs to include in the removal log01:07
ari-tczewmicahg: of course. I just mean whether any ACKs  are necessary.01:08
micahgari-tczew: no, if you have upload rights you can request removal01:08
ari-tczewhmm, why people use ntfs-config with sudo? I don't understand bug 66331801:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 663318 in Linux Mint "ntfs-config not working" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66331801:09
micahgari-tczew: some people think you have to run a lot of things with sudo that you don't have to01:10
ari-tczewmicahg: how do you would triage this bug?01:11
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micahgari-tczew: well, if it's never meant to be run with sudo, it should warn on that and exit (would be wishlist then), if it's normally supposed to be run as the user, but can be run as sudo, there are 2 issues here, 1.  should warn, 2. shouldn't fail when run with sudo01:12
* micahg doesn't know anything about ntfs-config though01:13
micahgthose are general triaging suggestions01:13
micahgari-tczew: my guess is there might be a duplicate as hal's been deprecated01:14
ari-tczewmicahg: hmm. I'm thinking about upload ntfs-config and please users to test package without sudo.01:15
micahgari-tczew: well, if you're not sure about the usage, I would suggest further research or getting in touch with the Debian maintainer01:15
micahgari-tczew: you could also try YokoZar who maintains the wine stack in Ubuntu01:16
ari-tczewmicahg: why wine? it's ntfs-config01:17
micahgari-tczew: possible indirect knowledge01:17
ScottKAlso HAL is removed from Gnome, but KDE still uses it.01:25
ari-tczewScottK: so I dunno how triage these bugs :/01:26
ari-tczewntfs-config works very well on my ubuntu01:27
ScottKOK.  I'd discuss it with people in #ubuntu-bugs01:27
micahgari-tczew: debian 57334801:34
ubottuDebian bug 573348 in ntfs-config "ntfs-config: Does not start" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/57334801:34
ari-tczewmicahg: I saw it. and I said, works fine for me,01:35
ari-tczewmicahg: I'd get it applied in Debian first.01:35
ari-tczewmicahg: I'd prepare a NMU, but if I'm not affected...01:36
micahgari-tczew: sure, but you can at least link the bugs and mark our bug triaged01:36
micahgari-tczew: there's already a possible patch in that bug01:37
ari-tczewmicahg: [02:36] <ari-tczew> micahg: I'd prepare a NMU, but if I'm not affected...01:37
micahgari-tczew: well, the answer is to probably move away from HAL01:38
micahgari-tczew: about you not being affected, I'm not sure, you could always upload a fix to a PPA for someone to test01:39
ari-tczewmicahg: sounds reasonable01:39
micahgari-tczew: if you're running GNOME, you might be HAL free as ScottK pointed out01:39
ari-tczewmicahg: so, users with KDE are affected?01:40
micahgari-tczew: no, they probably wouldn't be, since they'd have hal installed01:40
ScottKCould be other destkop environments too.01:40
micahgari-tczew: do you have hal installed01:40
micahgXfce still has HAL as well until we get to 4.801:40
micahgari-tczew: if you have the hal package installed, you wouldn'01:41
micahgt get this error01:41
ari-tczewmicahg: I have installed01:42
ari-tczewdoes anybody know what means comment on MoM "USA" ?01:44
ari-tczewcould someone add a comment on https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe-manual.html ? instead add comment, page redirects me to universe.html01:47
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shane4ubuntuok, I'm trying to repackage a python app, it builds fine, however when I try to upload it to a ppa, it says mixed uploads not allowed, so asked the dev says, remove all the .py (that is the source) I did that, and recompiled, and stills says it is mixed???03:23
shane4ubuntuany ideas, thoughts or pointers would be appreciated.03:23
ScottKshane4ubuntu: You should probably seek help in #ubuntu-packaging.03:31
shane4ubuntuScottK, ok, thanks!03:31
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bdrungmicahg: you can code perl?11:43
xteejxI have fixed bug 671222 - it's in main, how do I get the fix looked at?11:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 671222 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager fails to start" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67122211:52
xteejxDo I subscribe ubuntu-sponsors ??11:55
geserxteejx: yes12:00
xteejxgeser: ok thanks :)12:00
geserxteejx: I assume mvo will look at it during the next week12:02
xteejxcool12:02
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ari-tczewScottK: I can't fix FTBFS on gdcm, which you pointed me to do it yesterday. Sorry.14:27
* ari-tczew is off to switch into XP,14:28
psusican anyone tell me why bzr is apparently not using stacked branches?  I branched from lp:ubuntu/parted, made one tiny change, and tried to push to lp:~psusi/ubuntu/natty/parted/my-fix and it seems to be uploading the entire repo history15:28
psusiohh... ok, it apparently just wanted a --stacked... I don't remember having to do that before to get a stacked push.. hrm...15:34
ebroderpsusi: I was taking a look at your lvm2 merge last night. You know that all of the undocumented patches come from Debian, not us, right?15:35
ebroderI think it might be better to do a proper merge from Debian before trying to incorporate a new upstream. In particular, the Debian maintainer dropped one or two of the patches since the last time we merged15:36
psusihe did?  hrm..15:36
ebroderIn any case, I don't think it's a good idea to drop patches from the Debian packaging just because they don't appear to do anything to you15:37
psusiyea, I also need to talk to keybuck about open-readonly.patch too but I've not seen him on15:38
psusiit seems I didn't quite merge it correctly because I get warnings about read only vs read write opens when running it15:38
psusibut it still seems to work fine15:38
ebroderI believe that patch is still relevant. It's needed because we add OPTIONS+="match" to the udev file15:38
ebroderErr, +="watch"15:39
psusiwell, it's also because I couldn't get them to apply and without any documentation, could not figure out what they were supposed to and fix it15:39
psusiso that was the best I could do15:39
psusiwhich patch is this?15:39
ebroderI'm not sure it's encoded in a quilt patch, but it's our only change to...debian/tree/dmsetup/lib/udev/rules.d/60-dont-remember-what-it-ends-with.rules :)15:40
psusiohh... I shouldn't have touched that then15:40
psusiall I did was manually fix up patches or comment them out of the series file15:40
ebroderwith something as sensitive as lvm2, that...doesn't really seem like a good plan15:41
ebroderAnyway, the merge from Debian appears to be more straightforward, although bzr generated a bunch of bogus conflicts when I tried it15:41
psusiI'm really excited about this new lvm.. I tried upgrading to natty again last night then an lvconvert and a reboot and I'm back in maverick...15:43
kklimonda_ScottK: I can fix gdcm later (as in "in few hours"), the fix should be pretty straightforward15:50
psusiisn't there supposed to be a bzr branch somewhere that is an auto import from debian?15:56
ebroderlp:debian/<source package>15:56
psusidoesn't seem to exist...16:00
ebroderuh, i branched it last night16:01
psusinevermind... typoed16:01
psusiahh and there is one for sid16:02
psusiohh, and they finally went to 2.02.72... only 2 revs behind16:04
* psusi beats the debian maintainer for not putting a single line of documentation in his patches16:06
ebroderhe's not actually at 2.02.72 - he just cherry-picked the change16:07
psusiwait... so his idea of "import upstream version 2.02.72" is to cherry pick a single change, not update to the new upstream release?16:08
ebroderlook at the version numbers in the changelog16:08
ebroder"New upstream version." is the typical phrasing for the latter16:09
* psusi facepalms16:09
SpamapShrm, I got a weird error when submitting a package for PPA build..16:35
SpamapSdpkg-deb: building package `mongodb' in `../mongodb_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1~ppa0_amd64.deb'.16:35
SpamapStar: ./usr/bin/mongo: file changed as we read it16:35
SpamapS./usr/bin/mongo is a symlink16:36
SpamapSwhen building in my local schroot I don't get this problem16:36
SpamapShttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/58762750/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.mongodb_1:1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1~ppa0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:36
SpamapSanybody ever see this issue? It doesn't quite make sense to me.. I'm wondering if it is parallel builds or something else weird.16:37
micahgSpamapS: tar was updated in lucid...16:43
SpamapSmicahg: like, recently?16:50
micahgSpamapS: no, 5 weeks ago16:50
micahgDo we do SRUs for outdated descriptions?17:52
ScottKkklimonda_: Excellent.18:02
ScottKmicahg: No.18:03
micahgScottK: k, thanks18:07
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ha2fbAlright guys I have a question regarding Download Accelerator Plus installation through WINE. If someone could help me it would be greatly appreciated!20:36
ScottKha2fb: Support is in #ubuntu.20:37
ha2fbsorry Scott, thanks.20:37
ScottKNo problem.20:38
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