[17:31] <EricThibault> Hi!
[17:31] <EricThibault> Is there an admin online?
[17:33] <UndiFineD> hello EricThibault
[17:33] <EricThibault> Hi
[17:33] <EricThibault> I would like to join the team :)
[17:34] <UndiFineD> great, we could use a few more active people
[17:34] <UndiFineD> in this topic are all the links
[17:34] <EricThibault> I'm a 17 years old student, just discovered Ubuntu about 3 months ago, did massive learning on this OS, including Desktop and Server
[17:35] <EricThibault> Okay, I just read : Send us an email or stop by the #ubuntu-tour channel on irc.freenode.net to ask us a question, introduce yourself, or get to know the other members of the team.
[17:35] <EricThibault> I thought it was an essential step to join the team
[18:53] <Omega> I'm here
[18:53] <Omega> damn
[18:53] <Omega> he left
[19:41] <UndiFineD> Omega, into assimilation modus ?
[19:47] <Omega> Hmm?
[22:11] <EricThibault> Hi Muscovy!
[22:13] <Muscovy> Hello EricThibault.
[22:14] <EricThibault> I just read the email you sent me
[22:14] <EricThibault> So, your team is about showing people how Ubuntu can be amazing and used everywhere, right?
[22:14] <Muscovy> Yep.
[22:14] <EricThibault> And how do you proceed?
[22:15] <Muscovy> As in from our current progress?
[22:15] <EricThibault> Yeah
[22:15] <Muscovy> We're hoping to finish writing some stuff on Evolution, Firefox, and Rhythmbox,
[22:16] <Muscovy> then we'll start packaging the tour, and ask people for opinions.
[22:16] <Muscovy> On how understandable it is, if we've missed topics, etc.
[22:16] <EricThibault> Let's say I'm a windows standard user, and I don't even know the words Ubuntu, Linux, OpenSource.  How will I land on your website, if you have one?  How will you try to convince me to leave 30 years of windows utilisation to get on Ubuntu?
[22:16] <Muscovy> Well, I don't think we're using the website as anything other than a developer portal at the moment.
[22:16] <EricThibault> By the way, I read that you are an high school student!  I just graduated last year, im 17!
[22:17] <Muscovy> Ah, same age as me. :D
[22:17] <EricThibault> Are you using a CMS for the website?
[22:17] <Muscovy> Wait.
[22:17] <Muscovy> Nope, just from scratch.
[22:17] <EricThibault> Or it's all javascript, html and css?
[22:17] <Muscovy> ANd some php.
[22:17] <Muscovy> I used php for a few ease-of-editing stuff.
[22:18] <Muscovy> We do hope to have an online version of the tour.
[22:18] <EricThibault> Because it's pretty basic.  I know you don't know me much, but I just completed a DEP in Quebec, Canada, which is, if i translate, Professionnal Studies Diploma, thats almost like college.
[22:18] <Muscovy> Ah.
[22:18] <Muscovy> Yeah, the website does need some updates.
[22:19] <EricThibault> And I'll finish it in 3 days.  Since I've started it, i've made 1800hrs, focused on programming, and a bit of networking.
[22:19] <EricThibault> So i'm pretty good with the web, and did you know that CMS are a lot easier to work with, and give better results in less time?
[22:20] <Muscovy> I didn't.
[22:20] <EricThibault> You know what's a CMS?
[22:20] <Muscovy> I learned this morning actually.
[22:20] <EricThibault> Content Management System.  Those allow you to do like 95% less code.
[22:21] <EricThibault> And the visual effects are way better
[22:21] <Muscovy> Would you recommend a particular one?
[22:22] <EricThibault> As an example, this is one of our school's website.  Took like 5 minutes to do + adding the text : http://lepisc.com/intranet/
[22:22] <EricThibault> I know it's in french, just for you to see the result!
[22:22] <Muscovy> I use Chrome, so I translated it.
[22:23] <EricThibault> Ok, cool
[22:23] <Muscovy> Yeah, I see what you mean.
[22:24] <EricThibault> Tell me if you think I'm too fast, I know we don't know each other yet.  You could make me a subdomain, I could build up the website, because I have a lot of free time, and then, if you like the result, we can easily switch it to the primary domain
[22:24] <Muscovy> That or I could give you the code (it's in a bzr branch) and you could do it locally.
[22:25] <Muscovy> My webhost locks ftp accounts like crazy.
[22:25] <Muscovy> In the creation of the site we had a lot of issues there.
[22:25] <EricThibault> Yeah, doing it locally, on a small LAMP server could work pretty well.
[22:25] <EricThibault> I'd show you the results with some screens
[22:26] <EricThibault> Just a question!  What time are you usually logged on, and what time is it where you live?   So I could easily contact you on the IRC channel!
[22:28] <Muscovy> On weekdays I'm on from about 11:30 PM to 5:00 AM UTC.
[22:28] <Muscovy> On and off.
[22:28] <Muscovy> Feel free to email me or the email list too.
[22:29] <EricThibault> Good
[22:29] <EricThibault> Where do you live?
[22:31] <Muscovy> West coast of Canada.
[22:31] <EricThibault> Im near Montreal!
[22:32] <EricThibault> Which explains why I'm a frenchie
[22:32] <Muscovy> Indeed.
[22:35] <Muscovy> I keep meaning to update the site, so I'll play with it during the next week.
[22:35] <Muscovy> There's a sync of it here: https://code.launchpad.net/~muscovy/+junk/ubuntu-tour-site
[22:35] <Muscovy> The sync excludes a few things like the IRC logs.
[22:35] <EricThibault> What's a branch?
[22:35] <Muscovy> Oh.
[22:35] <Muscovy> Ever used something like Git or SVN?
[22:35] <EricThibault> Sorry, I'm new to launchpad
[22:35] <EricThibault> Nope
[22:36] <Muscovy> We use Bzr (Bazaar), a version Control SYstem.
[22:36] <Muscovy> VCS are systems that intelligently upload/sync project files.
[22:36] <Muscovy> They deal with merges and so on.
[22:37] <EricThibault> Ok
[22:37] <Muscovy> http://ubuntutour.org/contribute/branch/ explains the basics of using it.
[22:37] <Muscovy> Most the the page stuff it setup.
[22:37] <EricThibault> thanks, ill check that
[23:37] <EricThibault> Hi again!
[23:38] <EricThibault> I have a question!  Do you want the website of Ubuntu Tour to be similar to Ubuntu.com, or just a nice sleek finish, with many nice options?
[23:41] <Muscovy> EricThibault, we're trying to go with the Ubuntu style.
[23:41] <Muscovy> So it doesn't need to mirror it, but the same conventions would be nice.
[23:41] <EricThibault> What do you mean by conventions?
[23:42] <Muscovy> The same general colour schemes and so on.
[23:42] <Muscovy> http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ might be useful.
[23:46] <EricThibault> Is Ubuntu design (like ubuntu.com) open source, because i'd just copy the pictures, and build something really awesome, no wordpress, just with some js and jquery
[23:52] <Muscovy> I think it is.
[23:53] <EricThibault> So I can copy the images, and just change the text?
[23:54] <Muscovy> I believe so.