[00:03] <Chloric> hey itnet
[00:59] <itnet7> hey there Chloric !
[01:06] <Chloric> hows it going?
[01:06] <Chloric> i had a question
[01:10] <itnet7> go ahead
[01:10] <itnet7> sorry for the delay catching up on some stuff in the background
[01:10] <Chloric> thats ok man,
[01:11] <Chloric> and i was wondering if you were doing anything LoCo related during thanksgiving week. im going up for 10 days
[01:11] <Chloric> i'll be in Orlando no less
[01:11] <itnet7> going up?
[01:11] <itnet7> Oh
[01:11] <itnet7> cool!!
[01:11] <Chloric> so if your throwing anything LoCo related, i could catch up
[01:12] <itnet7> cool, I am not sure, usually I try not to do anything around major (family related) holidays
[01:12] <itnet7> but if you eat Turkey... '=_
[01:12] <itnet7> oops
[01:12] <itnet7> that was supposed to be: :-P
[01:13] <itnet7> We could hang out regardless
[01:13] <Chloric> thats cool and for sure
[01:13] <Chloric> i'll be in my teepee for those ten days :p
[01:13] <itnet7> Oh!
[01:13] <itnet7> cool
[01:14] <Chloric> so we could meet up any time i
[01:15] <itnet7> Awesome!
[01:16] <itnet7> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2010/11/how-to-install-and-play-popular-game.html <----- Sweet!
[01:17] <Chloric> oh, i dont know if you were on last night, but i was using a Wacom bamboo tablet with Ubuntu
[01:17] <Chloric> there were a ton of conversations about it on here
[01:17] <Chloric> i used my girlfriends and i was using it as a mouse the whole night
[01:17] <itnet7> Oh, I'll have to read the backlog
[01:17] <itnet7> nice!
[01:17] <Chloric> everything worked except for the FN1 and FN2 button
[01:18] <itnet7> Did the gui configuration detect it?
[01:18] <Chloric> nope, nothing. it worked right out of the box, i never messed with any program
[01:19] <Chloric> i plugged it in and it all worked
[01:19] <Chloric> scrolling, gestures, right clicking, drag and drop, and changing work spaces
[01:20] <itnet7> Cool, I was just thinkin that you might be able to bind those non-working FN1 and FN2 buttons with the app. potentially
[01:20] <Chloric> yeah, those were Corel specific buttons
[01:20] <itnet7> brb gonna test the install to see if that "True Combat Elite" mod shows up in game
[01:20] <Chloric> i couldve done so, but i was having fun with it
[01:21] <Chloric> i was using GIMP
[01:25] <itnet7> They are really cool
[01:25] <itnet7> That install was flawless, can't play the mod online, because I never entered my CD key
[01:30] <Chloric> what mod?
[01:38] <itnet7> Hey there Bryanstein !
[01:39] <itnet7> Chloric: the "True Elite Combat" Mod
[01:40] <itnet7> but you need to have the key from Enemy Territory: the Original one
[01:40] <Chloric> OH, forgot i opened that link... playing minecraft and listening to music lol
[01:40] <itnet7> :-P
[01:40] <Chloric> the graphics look amazing
[01:41] <itnet7> brb, gonna try it again since I just found me key :-)
[01:42] <Chloric> ok
[14:28] <Gyndawyr> hello
[14:30] <Gyndawyr> I'm looking for some americans :P
[14:33]  * mhall119 is american
[14:33] <mhall119> what's up Gyndawyr 
[14:33] <Gyndawyr> I've taken 3 SAT subject tests: literature, biology, and math level 1.
[14:33] <mhall119> SAT?
[14:34] <Gyndawyr> Can I retake the ones I did bad in to improve my score?
[14:34] <mhall119> yeah, I think you can take them as many times as you're willing to pay for them
[14:34] <Gyndawyr> yay
[14:34] <mhall119> I'm not sure if colleges look at all the scores, or just the latest, or just the highest
[14:35] <Gyndawyr> because I want to keep my good scores in literature and biology, but erase any history of my awful marks in math
[14:35] <Gyndawyr> do you know anything about the literacy test at all?
[14:36] <mhall119> man, it's been a decade since I took my SATs
[14:36] <mhall119> maybe MichelleQ1 has some insight into those
[14:36] <MichelleQ1> Gyndawyr: the college will look at *all* scores submitted from one test - so, say you took it July 2010 - they'll look at all the marks for all the subjects from that test.
[14:36]  * Gyndawyr points to young person
[14:37] <Gyndawyr> but I don't want to keep all my scores
[14:37] <Gyndawyr> just the good ones
[14:37] <MichelleQ1> I know - unfortunately it doesn't work that way
[14:37] <MichelleQ1> what you'll want to do is submit your highest test in general
[14:38] <Gyndawyr> I'll be damned if I have to sit through literature again -_-
[14:38] <Gyndawyr> also, I'll have to get loads of math tuition
[14:38] <MichelleQ1> hahaha, having a rough time with the ilterature sections?
[14:38] <MichelleQ1> where are you trying to go to school at?
[14:39] <Gyndawyr> when something is open to interpretation and prettymuch all of the answers are valid, it becomes difficult to select one out of five on the multiple choice
[14:39] <MichelleQ1> this is true - literature is very hard to objectively test
[14:39] <Gyndawyr> I'm british english, but I want to move to MIT for my graduate year in university
[14:40] <MichelleQ1> ok - call MIT and ask for an admissions counselor.  They'd be the best to tell you how to submit your scores
[14:40] <mhall119> maybe you can get an ESOL exception ;)
[14:41] <Gyndawyr> if what you said is true, the best way to submit my scores would be to re-take the exams after I have some sort of education in how to pass the bloody things :)
[14:41] <MichelleQ1> there are all sorts of SAT guides out there
[14:41] <Gyndawyr> the average scores are in the 750 region for people at MIT :S
[14:42] <MichelleQ1> I'd offer to help you study, but it's been years since I've sat for them.  I am around though, regularly, should you need some generalized literature help
[14:42] <Gyndawyr> if I have to submit my awful grades along with my good ones, I'd probably be better off resitting the subjects I'm good at along with the ones I failed previously
[14:42] <MichelleQ1> that's what I'd suggest
[14:43] <MichelleQ1> odds are, your good subjects will remain high, but you'd have a chance to improve your low scores.
[14:43] <Gyndawyr> biology felt so easy :D - maybe it's because I've covered most of the material recently
[14:43] <Gyndawyr> I literally guessed 40 out of 50 questions on the math paper
[14:43] <MichelleQ1> yeah, I'm sure I'd fail spectacularly if I sat for the SATs again.
[14:44] <Gyndawyr> you're older than I expected :)
[14:44] <MichelleQ1> If you haven't already, you might want to sit for the ACTs, too - they're generally easier.
[14:44]  * MichelleQ1 knocks on 30.
[14:44]  * Gyndawyr is 19 next week
[14:45] <Gyndawyr> I know I should remember my education but I have poor memory and it was 4 years ago since I was in math class
[14:46] <MichelleQ1> I sucked at math in high school - I can't imagine I'd been any better at it now.
[14:46] <Gyndawyr> I don't think I'm bad at it as much as I don't enjoy it
[14:47] <MichelleQ1> Why are you headed to MIT?  Comp-sci?
[14:48] <Gyndawyr> I plan to go somewhere relatively local for the moment
[14:48] <Gyndawyr> manchester university or similar
[14:48] <Gyndawyr> my grades aren't very good so I don't know what place I'll get
[14:49] <Gyndawyr> I plan to study biology or engineering. I hope to transfer to MIT - bio-engineering when I've done the first part of my degree
[14:49] <MichelleQ1> ah, ok.
[14:49] <mhall119> for not enjoying math, you sure are picking two subjects that are going to require a lot of it
[14:49] <Gyndawyr> imagine what you could do with the ability to program DNA ;)
[14:49]  * MichelleQ1 wanted to go into molecular biology
[14:49] <Gyndawyr> even though I hate programming it sounds like something I would do
[14:50] <MichelleQ1> and then I failed calculus.
[14:50] <mhall119> yeah, I've read several articles about molecular computers and such
[14:50] <Gyndawyr> why didn't you Michelle?
[14:50] <MichelleQ1> can't math.  
[14:50] <MichelleQ1> :D
[14:50] <MichelleQ1> So I majored in English Lit instead.
[14:51] <Gyndawyr> eugh... I hated math and chemistry. But I've always been naturally good with computers and biology :/
[14:52] <Gyndawyr> putting it together is fine, it's just programming the thing I'm no good with
[14:52] <MichelleQ1> I found I was good with anything that could be explained to me in concrete terms.  But when it came to theoretical math, ... no.
[14:53] <Gyndawyr> hahahahaha I had to learn "don't ask questions" when it comes to education in general
[14:54] <Gyndawyr> otherwise you end up asking "why does gravity only attract?" or "how does energy go through a vaccum?"
[14:54] <MichelleQ1> Yeah, that was my problem... and I couldn't deal with 'just don't ask'
[14:54] <mhall119> well the second is kind of a misconception, but the answer to the first is still "We have no clue"
[14:55] <MichelleQ1> that's part of the reason why I went into literature - I could manipulate the texts as I saw fit, and make the answers my own.
[14:55] <mhall119> I think too many professors of the "hard" sciences are unwilling to admit that nobody in their field knows the answer to something
[15:46] <itnet7> mhall119: ping
[15:56] <mhall119> itnet7: pong
[15:56] <mhall119> but I'm about to leave for the hardware store
[15:59] <mhall119> be back later
[16:03] <itnet7> lol
[16:03] <itnet7> sorry
[16:08] <itnet7> bbiab
[19:13] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping
[19:14] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: what is the version of irssi that had that perl module you were talking about, and which is is the one it didn't have it anymore
[22:44] <cjohnston> Headed back home. :-(
[22:52] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: let me doublecheck
[22:54] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ok cool, we'll try to see if it was a packaging error :)
[22:56] <test123> itnet7: test
[22:57] <itnet7> I can't find the same stuff I was seeing
[22:58] <itnet7> notify.pl loaded, but my notifications are not forwarding through X
[22:58] <crashsystems> hello florida
[22:58] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: so it's prolly something with the packaging
[23:02] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: if you were to type: /unload perl, then try to /LOAD perl you will get the following error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/527882/
[23:02] <itnet7> When I tried to compile irssi myself and point it to by perl libraries it would not let me compile in perl support
[23:04] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: seems like a known bug
[23:08] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: and a packging error probably
[23:12] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639260
[23:14] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but according to what I'm reading it says that you can unload perl, but you can't reload it
[23:15] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but if you could give me the versions of the packages would be easier to investigate
[23:37] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: Unfortunately I don't have any thing running the previous versions, let me check it out in a bit, I am going through my e-mail and getting caught up a bit
[23:44] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ok if you remember the version you had before and which version you upadted to that thad the problem would be useful