[00:55] <nimbiotics> ive got ubuntu 10.10 installed. can i install ubuntu studio on top of it w/o losing anything? TIA!
[00:56] <holstein> hey nimbiotics
[00:57] <holstein> you can just install what you want
[00:57] <holstein> from the repos
[00:57] <holstein> IF you want to install one of the meta-packages
[00:57] <holstein> you can do that
[00:57] <holstein> you can search in synaptic for ubuntustudio
[00:57] <holstein> and READ about them
[00:57] <nimbiotics> i dnt know much about this, but i think ive got to replace pulseaudio. how do i do that?
[00:57] <holstein> nimbiotics: nah
[00:57] <holstein> you dont
[00:58] <holstein> for example
[00:58] <nimbiotics> its all messed up
[00:58] <holstein> there is a metapackage
[00:58] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio
[00:58] <holstein> you install that
[00:58] <holstein> and you get JACK and ardour
[00:58] <holstein> and other goodies
[00:58] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[00:58] <holstein> those are the audio plugins
[00:58] <nimbiotics> will it replace pulseaudio?
[00:58] <holstein> no
[00:58] <nimbiotics> how can i replace pulseaudio?
[00:59] <holstein> you will have to trouble shoot that separately
[00:59] <holstein> what is the issue?
[00:59] <nimbiotics> long story ...
[01:00] <nimbiotics> have been trying to merge a sink and a source and after all the testing ive done, all ive got is messdup stuff
[01:00] <holstein> well, i would probably google 'ubuntu maverick 10.10 remove pulse audio'
[01:00] <holstein> you dont really replace it
[01:00] <holstein> JACK will run usually regardless
[01:01] <holstein> but, thats not really the purpose of JACK
[01:01] <nimbiotics> i dnt want to make my life more complicated, all i need to do is be able to record phone calls i make thru google voice
[01:01] <holstein> nimbiotics: OH
[01:01] <holstein> i remember you ;)
[01:01] <holstein> you didnt just script that?
[01:01] <nimbiotics> yes, we were talking last nite
[01:01] <holstein> just script it, and put a shortcut on the desktop
[01:02] <nimbiotics> now i cant even create the loopbacks i need cause i get an error (Connection failure: Connection terminated)
[01:02] <nimbiotics> so not even the scripts will do
[01:02] <holstein> i suppose you could try reinstalling pulse
[01:02] <holstein> no reason why you need to replace pulse
[01:02] <holstein> BUT you can get rid of it
[01:03] <nimbiotics> i woudl like to completley remove it and reinstall, how can i do that?
[01:04] <holstein> removing pulse is tricky
[01:04] <holstein> i would try selecting it in synaptic
[01:04] <holstein> and select 'reinstall'
[01:04] <holstein> and see how that goes
[01:05] <nimbiotics> ok, hope that works, ty
[01:06] <holstein> i would read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[01:07] <holstein> ACTUALLY, if it were me, i would just reinstall ;)
[01:07] <holstein> BUT, if i wanted to try and repair, i would read that ^^
[01:08] <holstein> prolly take me about 15 minutes to reinstall ubuntu
[01:09] <nimbiotics> i uninstalled pulseaudio, deleted default.pa and am installing again ... will let you know
[01:11] <nimbiotics> well, lloks like it worked
[01:11] <holstein> sweet :)
[01:12] <nimbiotics> will take me a while to test further
[01:12] <nimbiotics> thanks again ... i will most surely bother you again in a while
[01:12] <holstein> hehe
[01:12] <holstein> nimbiotics: i'll probably be here :)
[01:12] <nimbiotics> hope so. so far you've been my only angel
[01:13] <holstein> lol
[17:48] <memothejanitor> hi is there an app on ubuntu studio like the software manager on reg ubuntu?
[17:49] <memothejanitor> so i can install custom packages
[18:04] <WACOMalt> Heyo folks. I am having an issue with my recent Ubuntu Studio 10.10 install. The install went fine, but on boot I first get an error about missing dependencies.dep, but that seems to not cause anything. After that I get the loading screen with some graphical glitches on the right hand side. After that (only one letter in) the full screen turns to graphical glitches
[18:05] <WACOMalt> I'm assuming graphics issues. I'm on a Nvidia 250 GT
[18:07] <WACOMalt> is anyone actually active in here?  I hate lurkers...
[18:29] <WACOMalt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2KCPeH1nc
[18:29] <WACOMalt> PLEASE SOMEONE HELP WITH THIS
[18:34] <WACOMalt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2KCPeH1nc
[18:34] <WACOMalt> help please
[18:40] <WACOMalt> Is there anybody out there?
[18:40] <WACOMalt> Just nod if you can hear me
[18:41] <WACOMalt> Is there anyone at home?
[18:41] <WACOMalt> Why are these 23 people in the chatroom? Sign out when you arent talking... jesus
[18:43] <WACOMalt> Come on, now
[18:43] <WACOMalt> I here you're feeling down
[18:43] <WACOMalt> Well I can ease your pain, get you on your feet again.
[18:44] <WACOMalt> There is no pain you are recieving
[18:44] <WACOMalt> and screw it.. later folks. Sorry for the spam, but testing for any live ones in here.
[18:44] <WACOMalt> laters.
[19:02] <WACOMalt> Hi folks :p I'm back!
[19:02] <WACOMalt> and looks like some of you may be too now!
[19:03] <holstein> WACOMalt: i had that error once
[19:03] <holstein> luckily i had an older kernel around
[19:03] <WACOMalt> really?
[19:03] <WACOMalt> oh god that sounds complicated to fix...
[19:03] <holstein> i booted in with an older kernel
[19:03] <holstein> and reinstalled the problematice kernel
[19:04] <holstein> and all was good
[19:04] <holstein> good news is
[19:04] <holstein> this is not ubuntustudio specific
[19:04] <holstein> SO you can find help anywhere
[19:04] <holstein> but, that worked for me
[19:05] <WACOMalt> ok awesome.  Now... I dont have an older kernel...
[19:06] <WACOMalt> so how can I go about this?
[19:06] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592062
[19:07] <WACOMalt> problem is...
[19:07] <holstein> im not sure
[19:07] <WACOMalt> My system doesnt boot
[19:07] <holstein> i never have only one kernel around for long
[19:07] <holstein> its a good idea to have a couple
[19:07] <holstein> IF you get an update to the new one
[19:07] <holstein> which is what happened to me
[19:08] <holstein> i got an update to a recent generic kernel
[19:08] <holstein> i think i booted into a realtime kernel i had as well
[19:08] <holstein> to fix it
[19:08] <holstein> WACOMalt: thats a good question though
[19:08] <holstein> i think you can boot into that recorvery mode
[19:09] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250
[19:10] <holstein> anyhow, in this channel
[19:10] <holstein> you need to allow a couple hours or a day for a response
[19:10] <holstein> BUT, that error is general
[19:10] <holstein> and related to the generic kernel
[19:11] <WACOMalt> gotcha. So forums are better probably
[19:11] <holstein> SO you should be able to get that sorted out in another more active channel
[19:11] <holstein> IF the above info doesnt do it for you :)
[19:11] <holstein> the email list is quite active as well
[19:12] <WACOMalt> ok, awesome
[19:13] <WACOMalt> thanks so much!
[19:13] <holstein> good luck :)
[19:15] <WACOMalt> I was able to boot into recovery!
[19:17] <WACOMalt1> meaning kernel is fine? just a graphics driver issue maybe?
[19:18] <WACOMalt1> booted with failsafe graphics just fine
[19:18] <holstein> WACOMalt: hey
[19:18] <holstein> progress :)
[19:18] <WACOMalt1> yus!
[19:19] <WACOMalt1> installing graphics drivers
[19:19] <holstein> WACOMalt: did you make a custom xorg.cof?
[19:19] <holstein> conf*
[19:19] <holstein> WACOMalt: OH
[19:19] <WACOMalt1> not yet
[19:19] <holstein> yeah, thats a good start
[19:19] <holstein> nvidia can be a pain
[19:19] <holstein> i just use the open one
[19:19] <holstein> i used a knoppix live CD
[19:19] <WACOMalt1> I mean failsafe is the full kernel and everything right?  So these drivers are likely the issue if I'm booting fine in failsafe graphics?
[19:20] <WACOMalt1> I like nvidias graphics. never had an issue
[19:20] <holstein> to generate me an xorg.conf
[19:20] <holstein> and i force the open nvidia drive
[19:20] <holstein> maybe nvu?
[19:20] <holstein> i forget
[19:20] <holstein> its been a while :)
[19:20] <WACOMalt1> lol
[19:20] <WACOMalt1> well Ima try this first
[19:20] <holstein> WACOMalt1: i think thats a safe assumption
[19:21] <holstein> and, you should be able to use the nvidia drivers with the generic kernel
[19:21] <holstein> without issue
[19:21] <holstein> i did some tests, and got the nvidia drivers installed on my hardware
[19:22] <holstein> i had some issues with the realtime kernel then
[19:22] <holstein> so i went back to the other one
[19:22] <holstein> theres a patch now though
[19:22] <WACOMalt> what is the realtime kernel?
[19:22] <holstein> my audio rig is on lucid
[19:22] <WACOMalt> that is a new one to me
[19:23] <holstein> WACOMalt: theres not a realtime kernel for maverick right now
[19:23] <WACOMalt> maverick?
[19:23] <WACOMalt> oh dur
[19:23] <holstein> WACOMalt: thats what your running right?
[19:23] <holstein> maverick?
[19:23] <holstein> 10.10?
[19:23] <WACOMalt> yah
[19:23] <WACOMalt> what is the realtime kernel?
[19:23] <holstein> bacically allows lower latency
[19:24] <holstein> for audio recording
[19:24] <holstein> becoming unecessary though
[19:24] <WACOMalt> I need that. Older PC here
[19:24] <holstein> with the progress of the generic kernel
[19:24] <WACOMalt> I use ASIO 4all on my windows side
[19:24] <holstein> and the -lowlatency one
[19:24] <WACOMalt> and of course coreaudio on my OSX side
[19:24] <holstein> WACOMalt: you probably dont *need* it
[19:24] <holstein> if you want to plug a guitar in
[19:25] <WACOMalt> I am planning to do Midi control boards
[19:25] <WACOMalt> those like to haeva  lot of lag
[19:25] <holstein> and use ubuntu as a realtime effect processor
[19:25] <holstein> yeah, or that
[19:25] <holstein> WACOMalt: midi triggering
[19:25] <holstein> well, you can come back to lucid if you need it :)
[19:25] <WACOMalt> All I know is on windows It had lag without ASIO and on OSX it had lag without coreaudio
[19:25] <WACOMalt> lol
[19:25] <holstein> probably wont though
[19:25] <WACOMalt> why isnt the realtime kernel on maverick yet?
[19:26] <holstein> pretty sure the -lowlatency one is in the repos
[19:26] <holstein> WACOMalt: theres not a yet
[19:26] <holstein> it wont be there
[19:26] <holstein> ever
[19:26] <WACOMalt> thought that was a big part of studio?
[19:26] <holstein> unless there is a PPA
[19:26] <holstein> and there is one
[19:26] <WACOMalt> ?
[19:26] <holstein> but its not ready yet
[19:26] <holstein> and its challenging work maintaining it
[19:26] <WACOMalt> gotcha
[19:26] <holstein> and like i said, the need for it is becoming less all the time
[19:27] <WACOMalt> well I'll see how this goers
[19:27] <WACOMalt> hope I can find drivers for the USB midi on my yamaha keyboard
[19:27] <holstein> yeah
[19:27] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians if you get a chance :)
[19:28] <holstein> WACOMalt: in the future
[19:28] <holstein> you can use a live CD
[19:28] <holstein> and run lspci
[19:28] <holstein> and lsusb
[19:28] <holstein> and test all te hardware
[19:28] <holstein> the*
[19:29] <holstein> you wont be able to install all the ubuntustudio metapackges in ram ;)
[19:29] <holstein> but you can get an idea of hardware support
[19:29] <WACOMalt> okeedoke
[19:30] <WACOMalt> thanks man
[19:30] <holstein> WACOMalt: anytime
[19:30]  * holstein gotta run... BBL
[19:30] <WACOMalt> Ok, I'm off to install all my provideo apps :P
[19:30] <WACOMalt> cya