| TheMuso | robert_ancell: oh whoops, thanks. :) | 00:29 |
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| gunnarhj | help | 01:57 |
| === gunnarhj is now known as Gunnar_Hjalmarss | ||
| === Gunnar_Hjalmarss is now known as GunnarHj | ||
| === MenZa is now known as lhavelund | ||
| chiz | Is here somebody alive? | 04:50 |
| nisshh | chiz, whats up? | 04:52 |
| chiz | nisshh, how to install lxde? | 04:53 |
| chiz | I want to type smth in terminal to download and install lxde | 04:53 |
| nisshh | chiz, hmmm, do you want the full lubuntu? or just lxde? | 04:53 |
| chiz | But I don't know what command | 04:53 |
| chiz | I have now normal Ubuntu | 04:54 |
| chiz | I want lxde instead of ... | 04:54 |
| nisshh | yeah | 04:54 |
| chiz | I don't know what :-) | 04:54 |
| nisshh | ah, instead of GNOME | 04:54 |
| chiz | Smth preinstalled | 04:54 |
| chiz | Maybe :-) | 04:54 |
| nisshh | chiz, try this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install lxde | 04:54 |
| nisshh | then logout and when you log back in change the session from Ubuntu Desktop Edition to LXDE | 04:55 |
| chiz | Couldn't find package lxde | 04:55 |
| nisshh | chiz, which version of Ubuntu are you using? | 04:55 |
| chiz | :-) | 04:55 |
| chiz | 8 | 04:55 |
| nisshh | 8.04? | 04:56 |
| chiz | oh | 04:56 |
| chiz | no | 04:56 |
| chiz | 6.10 | 04:56 |
| chiz | :-) | 04:56 |
| chiz | My PC is to slow for 10 | 04:56 |
| nisshh | your running 6.10!? | 04:56 |
| nisshh | wow | 04:56 |
| nisshh | chiz, lxde is only available in 10.04 and later | 04:56 |
| chiz | There is no lxde for 6 version? :-( | 04:57 |
| nisshh | no | 04:57 |
| chiz | What a pitty :-( | 04:57 |
| chiz | ok | 04:57 |
| nisshh | lxde hasnt been around for ages | 04:57 |
| chiz | Maybe smth else? | 04:57 |
| nisshh | chiz, try xfce | 04:57 |
| chiz | Some lightweight GUI | 04:57 |
| chiz | instead of lxde? | 04:57 |
| nisshh | chiz, what hardware are you on? | 04:57 |
| chiz | In command, I mean | 04:57 |
| chiz | :-) | 04:57 |
| chiz | Celeron 1,7 | 04:58 |
| chiz | 512 RAM | 04:58 |
| nisshh | i see | 04:58 |
| nisshh | then xfce should work fine | 04:58 |
| nisshh | try: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 04:58 |
| nisshh | then logout and select it as your session | 04:58 |
| chiz | Couldn't find package xfce | 04:59 |
| chiz | oh | 04:59 |
| chiz | just a sec | 04:59 |
| nisshh | chiz, you really should upgrade the the newest version of Ubuntu | 04:59 |
| chiz | Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop | 04:59 |
| nisshh | chiz, 6.10 isnt supported anymore | 04:59 |
| chiz | Bad... | 05:00 |
| nisshh | chiz, yeah, im not completely sure but i dont think xubuntu was around then either | 05:00 |
| nisshh | that was 2006 | 05:00 |
| chiz | I understand :-) | 05:00 |
| nisshh | chiz, 6.10 no longer gets security updates or anything | 05:00 |
| chiz | What about 8th version? | 05:00 |
| chiz | Is there some lightweight GUI? | 05:00 |
| nisshh | 8.04 does, but not for too much longer | 05:00 |
| nisshh | chiz, if you install Xubuntu 10.10 you will have a lightweight GUI | 05:01 |
| chiz | I don't worry about security | 05:01 |
| nisshh | chiz, i see, you should | 05:01 |
| chiz | This machin is just for reading books and programming j2me apps | 05:01 |
| chiz | It didn't help | 05:01 |
| chiz | I tried | 05:02 |
| chiz | I installed 10 version and lxde on it. It wasn't comfortable. | 05:03 |
| nisshh | chiz, not lxde, xfce | 05:03 |
| nisshh | xfce is completely different | 05:03 |
| chiz | xfce better then lxde? | 05:03 |
| chiz | oh | 05:03 |
| chiz | ok | 05:03 |
| nisshh | chiz, im not at liberty to say which is better, its your choice, but LXDE is newer than XFCE and its also lighter | 05:04 |
| chiz | lxde lighter? | 05:05 |
| chiz | nisshh, thanks! | 05:06 |
| nisshh | chiz, in my experience it is slightly | 05:06 |
| chiz | I have to go to work :-) | 05:06 |
| nisshh | but they are both very lightweight | 05:06 |
| nisshh | ok | 05:07 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:31 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_, how was your week-end? | 08:31 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks | 08:31 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, very short :) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: oh why? | 08:31 |
| nisshh | because its only 2 days? | 08:32 |
| didrocks | :) | 08:32 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, yes, only 2 days :) | 08:32 |
| nisshh | hehe | 08:32 |
| didrocks | it was enough for me to finish metal gear solid 4! | 08:32 |
| nisshh | didrocks, oh, didnt know you were a gamer? | 08:32 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, oh, on the ps3? | 08:33 |
| didrocks | nisshh: not as I've been, I restrict myself now to final fantasy/zela/metal gear/mario | 08:33 |
| didrocks | which are games that take time :) | 08:33 |
| nisshh | oh, bit of old school :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: yeah, on ps3 :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | nisshh: well, I'm not that "old", but yeah, traditional games :) | 08:34 |
| nisshh | didrocks, i myself play lots of FPS games on PC :) | 08:34 |
| rodrigo_ | I don't like FPS, I get stressed with them :) | 08:34 |
| nisshh | didrocks, lol, i know that :) | 08:34 |
| didrocks | nisshh: at least, on GNU/Linux, you have the choice | 08:34 |
| didrocks | as rodrigo_, I don't really like FPS, I prefer games with a story | 08:34 |
| nisshh | didrocks, thats exactly right, i dont play any through wine either, i play all native games | 08:34 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, with some action, but a more relaxed :) | 08:35 |
| nisshh | i like RPG's as well | 08:35 |
| didrocks | for instance, I can't imagine anyone playing mgs4 without having played to 1, 2 and 3… should be soooo confusing! | 08:35 |
| nisshh | hehe | 08:35 |
| rodrigo_ | metal gear solid isn't a shooter? | 08:36 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: no really, it's a tactical infiltration game | 08:36 |
| rodrigo_ | ah | 08:36 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: the main goal is to be not detected | 08:36 |
| rodrigo_ | I might try it then | 08:36 |
| didrocks | make people sleep, and such :) | 08:36 |
| didrocks | sneak inside the building | 08:36 |
| rodrigo_ | I didn't even try it because I thought it was a shooter | 08:36 |
| didrocks | well, I really like that :) | 08:36 |
| didrocks | even if mgs4 is the most violent of the serie | 08:37 |
| didrocks | so, you still have some part where you have to shoot a lot, but it's not like a FPS | 08:37 |
| nisshh | didrocks, i have gone off stealth shooters, too boring | 08:37 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, I'll get the demo from PSN to try it | 08:37 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: the thing is that can either play it as a shooter if you don't sneak well enough :) | 08:38 |
| nisshh | didrocks, FPS games do have stories, what about halo? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: but most of the time, you'll loose then :) | 08:38 |
| didrocks | nisshh: yeah, I've played a little bit of halo some years ago, but too stressful for me :) | 08:38 |
| rodrigo_ | nisshh, the story being 'kill everyone'? :D | 08:39 |
| nisshh | didrocks, also, MGS on the PSP punishes you if you dont use stealth | 08:39 |
| nisshh | rodrigo_, have you even played halo? | 08:39 |
| didrocks | nisshh: yeah, that's the point of the game :) | 08:39 |
| rodrigo_ | nisshh, no, not really | 08:39 |
| nisshh | rodrigo_, it has a large story behind it | 08:39 |
| rodrigo_ | as I said, if it looks like a shooter when reading the reviews, I don't even try them | 08:40 |
| nisshh | didrocks, yeah, the PSP versions suck | 08:40 |
| nisshh | rodrigo_, oh, it is a shooter, but didrocks was saying shooters dont have stories, when they do | 08:40 |
| rodrigo_ | ah | 08:40 |
| didrocks | well, not enough story for me, let's say :) | 08:41 |
| rodrigo_ | hehe | 08:41 |
| nisshh | didrocks, ah, ok :) | 08:41 |
| didrocks | even when a lot of people hates final fantasy because you can have some part with the story during 30 minutes, I really like that :) | 08:41 |
| nisshh | didrocks, well, i dont mind FF, but after 14 releases, the story is so screwed | 08:42 |
| nisshh | i dont even understand it anymore | 08:42 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 08:42 |
| nisshh | and thats if i ever did :) | 08:42 |
| didrocks | nisshh: the story is so screwed? It's another story every time! | 08:42 |
| didrocks | new people, new world, new epoch… | 08:43 |
| nisshh | thats exactly my point.... | 08:43 |
| nisshh | it isnt FF if it doesnt carry on from the next one | 08:43 |
| didrocks | no, but an episod for a story is enough | 08:43 |
| nisshh | hehe | 08:44 |
| didrocks | I played FF7 for instance 11 times :) | 08:44 |
| nisshh | yeah | 08:44 |
| nisshh | ive played FF7 on the PSP 3-4 times | 08:44 |
| nisshh | its addictive | 08:44 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, you should try uncharted and uncharted2, I think you'll like them | 08:44 |
| didrocks | more than 100 hours to finish everything in a time :) | 08:44 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: yeah, I was powndering buying it. It was too late to try the demo | 08:45 |
| nisshh | rodrigo_, oh man, i have, they are good games :) | 08:45 |
| rodrigo_ | you can buy them quite cheap 2nd hand now, in GAME shops (I guess there are some in France?) | 08:45 |
| rodrigo_ | nisshh, yeah, the best ones I've tried recently | 08:46 |
| rodrigo_ | apart from assasin's creed | 08:46 |
| nisshh | hehe | 08:46 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: yeah, it was another named before, but it has been renamed GAME as well :) | 08:46 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: I'll probably have a try! :) | 08:46 |
| nisshh | geez | 08:49 |
| nisshh | i always do that | 08:49 |
| * pitti waves hello for a quick drive-by (swap day today) | 09:24 | |
| didrocks | hey pitti! did you have a nice travel! | 09:25 |
| didrocks | ? | 09:25 |
| pitti | well, travelling eastwards during the night is never "nice" :) | 09:25 |
| pitti | I slept for about an hour, but I had a nap at home | 09:26 |
| pitti | so I felt quite well after that | 09:26 |
| pitti | the concert yesterday evening was awesome | 09:26 |
| pitti | didrocks: how about you? | 09:26 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm fine thanks, nice week-end and knowing that at the end of this week, Julie will be back here (she was on her parents for almost 2 monthes to not be too many to my parents waiting for our flat :)) | 09:27 |
| pitti | oh, nice | 09:28 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks pitti | 09:28 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, ça va ? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | ouais, et toi ? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, back in europe? did you have a nice trip back? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | how is your jetlag? | 09:28 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:28 |
| pitti | seb128: see above, flights were on time and uneventful | 09:29 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pitti, seb128 | 09:29 |
| pitti | seb128: Had trouble getting to sleep last night, but I fell reasonably well now -- I'm on swap day today, so I could sleep in until 9 am :) | 09:29 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va bien, détente et jeux vidéo :) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, above was just before I joined I gues | 09:30 |
| seb128 | s | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, great | 09:30 |
| pitti | ah, ok; I filter out join/part messages | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, enjoy your swap day | 09:30 |
| pitti | just wanted to do some quick spec review, then some laundry and supermarket | 09:31 |
| pitti | RAOF: I set https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-desktop-n-xorg-configuration-the-final-ten-percent back to drafting; this just needs some clarification (see my questions in the whiteboard) | 09:43 |
| pitti | seb128: just to confirm, you are still working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection drafting? | 09:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, hum, no | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: i. e. ready for review? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, dunno, somebody else wrote the summary and workitems, I didn't realise I was drafting it ;-) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | I think jcastro did | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, let me review it and send it your way if it's ok | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128, didrocks: FYI, you have some specs in your review queue | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128: merci | 09:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, the appselection seems fine | 09:48 |
| pitti | seb128: good, will review | 09:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can review it | 09:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:48 |
| seb128 | how do I see what is in my review queue? | 09:48 |
| pitti | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/people/+me/+specs?role=approver | 09:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I'll review them today. Thanks :) | 09:49 |
| pitti | didrocks: ^ | 09:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, will review those today | 09:49 |
| hyperair | nautilus-share needs someone to upload into -proposed, by the way. =p | 09:49 |
| hyperair | it's the crasher bug when adding shares. | 09:49 |
| pitti | bryceh: can you please review/approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-desktop-n-xorg-general-planning ? | 09:50 |
| pitti | seb128: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+specs?searchtext=desktop already looks quite nice; should be possible to get most to approved by meeting tomorrow \o/ | 09:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: "change the seed to have it default in alpha1: TODO" on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection | 09:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: is "it" == "Banshee"? | 09:52 |
| pitti | ah, guess so | 09:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: I think as jcastro wrote that WI. I don't see on what else he could have commented :) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, you rock, great work! | 09:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ can you sponsor the nautilus-share bugfix? | 09:53 |
| pitti | s/you/desktop team/! | 09:53 |
| didrocks | seb128: can do today, not now | 09:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no hurry I think sru are still frozen so... | 09:53 |
| didrocks | seb128: still frozen? ok, good to know. Thanks :) | 09:54 |
| pitti | seb128: the WIs don't cover a tsclient/vinagre decision and dropping gnome-dictionary (was that reconsidered?) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I just noticed, I'm updating those, 2 minutes | 09:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, done | 10:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I've assigned you the "drop gnome-dictionnary" if you are doing the banshee dropping as well I figured you could do both at the same time ;-) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | ups banshee change, not dropping | 10:01 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure :) | 10:01 |
| pitti | seb128: cheers, approved | 10:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 10:03 |
| pitti | ok, /me & | 10:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, when you have comments on a spec, do you change the status back to something? | 10:03 |
| seb128 | or do you just let it in the current state? | 10:03 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, usually "drafting" | 10:03 |
| seb128 | like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packagesselection-desktop-n-telepathy-indicator | 10:03 |
| pitti | if it's something that needs to be changed | 10:03 |
| seb128 | I want a work item about "uploading" | 10:03 |
| seb128 | like a target for when that will land | 10:03 |
| pitti | so that it falls out of my queue and back into the drafter's | 10:03 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:04 |
| seb128 | thank | 10:04 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:04 |
| didrocks | hyperair: do you have a bug report # handy? | 10:43 |
| didrocks | (for nautilus-share) | 10:43 |
| hyperair | didrocks: right give me a moment. | 10:43 |
| hyperair | 655721 | 10:43 |
| hyperair | bug #655721 | 10:44 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 655721 in nautilus-share (Ubuntu) "Nautilus crashes when adding a share (affects: 8) (dups: 2) (heat: 56)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655721 | 10:44 |
| hyperair | there we go. | 10:44 |
| didrocks | hyperair: can you please edit the bug report with a testcase and the changelog entry, please? | 10:45 |
| didrocks | hyperair: I'll sponsor meanwhile | 10:45 |
| didrocks | hyperair: so 0.7.2-14 contains the fix, right? | 10:47 |
| hyperair | didrocks: yes. | 10:47 |
| hyperair | didrocks: but -14 is in natty, so you'll have to add a ~something | 10:47 |
| seb128 | use 13.1 rather for the sru | 10:47 |
| didrocks | ok, will upload with -v then :) | 10:47 |
| didrocks | yeah | 10:47 |
| didrocks | 0.7.2-13.1 sounds better for maverick | 10:47 |
| hyperair | =\ | 10:47 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:47 |
| hyperair | okay then | 10:48 |
| seb128 | we will need a new upload to natty with mterry's libgnome cleaning | 10:48 |
| hyperair | i usually like the version numbers to reflect where they came from though | 10:48 |
| hyperair | seb128: it's already on mentors.debian.net, i'm waiting for mbiebl | 10:48 |
| seb128 | since apparently that didn't got included in the debian upload for some reason | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:48 |
| hyperair | seb128: because debian is frozen and this was a high-prio bugfix meant for going into squeeze. | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:49 |
| didrocks | hyperair: sponsored to -proposed. I've edited to add the changelog as well. Please, subscribe the SRU team once added the test case | 10:52 |
| hyperair | didrocks: do they need to be subscribed these days? i thought they just follow the bug number in the .changes | 10:52 |
| didrocks | hyperair: always better to subscribe them, they tend to not touch those where they aren't subscribe from what I understood as it can means "not ready finally, will do another upload" | 10:53 |
| hyperair | didrocks: oh, okay. | 10:53 |
| hyperair | didrocks: alright, done =) | 10:56 |
| didrocks | hyperair: great, looks good. thanks! :) | 10:57 |
| hyperair | =) | 11:02 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, hey | 11:22 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gajim/+bug/349661 ever sent to debian or upstream or not? | 11:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 349661 in gajim (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 1 other project) "config rewrites not posix safe (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Medium,Fix released] | 11:22 |
| Nafallo | seb128: can't remember, sorry. | 11:25 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, ok | 11:26 |
| seb128 | seems the ubuntu diffs are small we could perhaps get back in sync in debian | 11:26 |
| Nafallo | that sounds lovely. I haven't looked at the package myself since I started using empathy either :-/ | 11:27 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pitti: hmm, in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-gnome3 , what about porting stuff to gdbus so that we can also get rid of dbus-glib? | 11:30 |
| rodrigo_ | most upstream apps are migrating afaics though | 11:30 |
| rodrigo_ | which raises the question, of what does python-dbus use? | 11:31 |
| rodrigo_ | python-dbus uses dbus-glib | 11:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hello | 11:53 |
| rodrigo_ | hi seb128 | 11:53 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well, I think the cost is non trivial and the win very small | 11:53 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 11:53 |
| seb128 | it's not like dbus-glib was hard to keep or maintain | 11:53 |
| seb128 | I would prefer get ride of a gtk stack of from gconf and bonobo | 11:53 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 11:54 |
| rodrigo_ | specially if python-.dbus depends on it, so yeah, not trivial | 11:55 |
| seb128 | would be interesting to know the telepathy plans for it | 11:57 |
| seb128 | it's one of the main users | 11:57 |
| cassidy | we have to port tp-glib first, which is not a trivial task as you can imagine | 11:58 |
| seb128 | right | 11:58 |
| cassidy | it *may* happen during this cycle but that's not sure | 11:58 |
| seb128 | that's why I was wondering if that would happen in one cycle | 11:58 |
| seb128 | in any case dbus-glib is not on my deprecation list for this cycle | 11:58 |
| cassidy | bug is https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28782 | 11:58 |
| ubot2 | Freedesktop bug 28782 in tp-glib "Migrate from dbus-glib to glib's GDBus" [Enhancement,New] | 11:59 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| mdeslaur | seb128: would you have any objection to me uploading the fix for bug 611983 to -proposed? | 13:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 611983 in evolution (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "Evolution [Open Link In Browser] not working for new eBay email hyperlinks (affects: 8) (dups: 2) (heat: 58)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611983 | 13:10 |
| didrocks | mdeslaur: there is already an evolution pending for approval in -proposed, maybe wait for this one to get through? | 13:12 |
| mdeslaur | didrocks: yes, I intended to | 13:12 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, no objection | 13:15 |
| seb128 | thank you for working on that and the gnome-keyring issue | 13:16 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: cool, thanks | 13:16 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: no problem! | 13:16 |
| mdeslaur | my mom has been complaining about her ebay links :P | 13:16 |
| mdeslaur | so you can thank her :) | 13:16 |
| seb128 | it's an issue that we let such bugs go through still | 13:18 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| boulabiar | what are the projects where libbamf is used ? | 13:36 |
| hyperair | does anyone know what version of ubuntu linux mint 9 is based on? | 13:38 |
| hyperair | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/571707 <-- people using linux mint 9 are claiming that this bug isn't fixed. | 13:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 571707 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 4 other projects) "fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU (affects: 143) (dups: 16) (heat: 688)" [Undecided,Triaged] | 13:38 |
| hyperair | hmm it's based on lucid. | 13:39 |
| hyperair | so why would that bug rear its head on mint and not lucid. | 13:39 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: Have you begun accepting Gnome 2.91 package upgrades? | 13:44 |
| seb128 | bilalakhtar, no, not before some weeks | 13:45 |
| seb128 | we just had gtk3 accepted | 13:45 |
| seb128 | we still need to build other libraries with it | 13:45 |
| seb128 | then get gtk3 on the CD | 13:45 |
| bilalakhtar | seb128: hmm, okay, I just saw gtk+3.0 in the repos so was curious | 13:45 |
| seb128 | well you need libraries your software use to be ported as well | 13:45 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, gtk3 is in natty now then? | 13:46 |
| seb128 | the launchpad integration one for example | 13:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes | 13:46 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm | 13:46 |
| rodrigo_ | cool, what about the other libs? | 13:46 |
| bilalakhtar | Any way I am not doing anything until November 20 | 13:46 |
| bilalakhtar | rodrigo_: as seb said, they are being built | 13:47 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 13:47 |
| rodrigo_ | lunch then, bbl :) | 13:47 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, they will come over time | 13:48 |
| seb128 | we are not in an hurry anyway since we have the ppa and we don't want to play catching up on abi breakages in natty yet | 13:48 |
| seb128 | we said we would wait to have the gtk abi to stabilize a bit to get gtk3 on the CD | 13:49 |
| jcastro | didrocks: I didn't write the work items, I just split them off into milestones and organized them | 14:02 |
| Zdra | seb128, I added gnome3-builds PPA and now clicking any link opens firefox instead of respecting my preference which is epiphany. (just to let you know in case that's a bug in those packages) :) | 14:41 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, would you mind using debsrc3 for the gnome-desktop3 package? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | Zdra, weird | 14:57 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, it already does in the current commit I did to the debian vcs | 14:57 |
| seb128 | ricotz, why do you need it? | 14:57 |
| ricotz | seb128, ok, just looked at the ppa, it should be mandatory for new source packages ;) | 14:58 |
| seb128 | well the ppa vcs has it as well | 14:58 |
| seb128 | it's 3.0 quilt | 14:58 |
| ricotz | ok, i only looked at the uploaded package | 14:59 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, it was just not a "new source", we used the gnome-desktop packaging | 14:59 |
| seb128 | but it's already fixed in the vcs | 14:59 |
| ricotz | alright ;) | 14:59 |
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| nessita | hello people! packaging question: I'm starting a branch from scratch to create a new package. Is there a way of suing bzr merge-upstream to create the needed directory structure? | 15:03 |
| nessita | using* | 15:04 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, merge-upstream only merges the source code for the upstream, AFAIK, so you'll have to create debian/ still | 15:08 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: I used to use it without having the debian dir | 15:08 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: now I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/528196/ | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | right, it doesn't need a debian dir, it just merges a tarball into a branch | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, I guess he needs a previous version in debian/changelog? | 15:09 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: right, but there is none :-) | 15:10 |
| nessita | since this is the first time I'm packaging this project | 15:10 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, if so, import the tarball into the branch "by hand", and then add the debian/ dir, next time merge-upstream should work | 15:10 |
| rodrigo_ | but there might be a better way | 15:10 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pitti, didrocks ^^ | 15:11 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: how can I import it "by hand"? | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, tar xvzf tarball && bzr add $all_files | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_ | but wait for others's answers, there might be a better way | 15:11 |
| didrocks | hey nessita | 15:12 |
| didrocks | nessita: I think upstream is you, so in bzr as well? | 15:12 |
| nessita | didrocks: yes! | 15:12 |
| didrocks | nessita: bzr branch trunk packaging | 15:12 |
| didrocks | cd packaging | 15:12 |
| didrocks | bzr tag upstream-0.0.1 | 15:12 |
| didrocks | (or whatever :)) | 15:12 |
| didrocks | then, add your debian dir and make the first version without merge-upstream | 15:13 |
| didrocks | bzr add | 15:13 |
| didrocks | bzr commit -m "initial packaging" && debcommit -r | 15:13 |
| didrocks | then, you will be able to use merge-upstream | 15:13 |
| nessita | didrocks: there is no trunk yet | 15:13 |
| didrocks | nessita: you are packaging something without any code ? :) | 15:13 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, he means trunk from your project | 15:14 |
| nessita | didrocks: there is no trunk for the package, yet. | 15:14 |
| nessita | ah! | 15:14 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, can't build any introspection stuff on natty :( | 15:16 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, didrocks: although bzr branch trunk... will have the bzr history for the source project | 15:17 |
| nessita | exactly | 15:17 |
| rodrigo_ | I would copy the tarball's contents and start the branch from that | 15:17 |
| rodrigo_ | but if didrocks says to do that, believe him more than me :) | 15:17 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: I never did that for the 20 packages I handle like that, common history means also common files id and less trouble in the future :) | 15:18 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 15:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, why not? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what do you try to build? | 15:18 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, librest, ubuntuone-client and a couple others I don't remember right now | 15:19 |
| rodrigo_ | looking now what's wrong | 15:19 |
| rodrigo_ | maybe I'm missing some package? | 15:20 |
| seb128 | well without details on your error I can't say | 15:20 |
| rodrigo_ | GISCAN RestExtras-0.7.gir | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | Namespace is empty; likely causes are: | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | * Not including .h files to be scanned | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | * Broken --identifier-prefix | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | the same in all modules I've tried | 15:21 |
| boulabiar | didrocks: hmm seems best time to ask you about packaging ginn | 15:22 |
| didrocks | boulabiar: you can just ask on the channel, if someone is around and can answer, she/he will :) | 15:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you get the issue if you build libwnck? | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | let me try | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | from the package? | 15:23 |
| boulabiar | I want to package it but will be able to push changes anytime | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, libwnck builds fine | 15:26 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, so it's a bug in your sources I guess | 15:26 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, they probably didn't get updated for the abi changes in gir > 0.9.3 | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, in u1-client, it's missing the _NAMESPACE line, but not librest | 15:27 |
| seb128 | 0.9.5 or higher changed things | 15:27 |
| seb128 | well GNOME sources changes the options called in makefiles as well | 15:27 |
| seb128 | check maybe what they did there | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, wait: | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | RestExtras-@API_VERSION@.gir: librest-extras-@API_VERSION@.la Makefile | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | RestExtras_@API_VERSION_AM@_gir_NAMESPACE = RestExtras | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | it's using API_VERSION and APT_VERSION_AM | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | right: | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | API_VERSION = 0.7 | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | API_VERSION_AM = 0_7 | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | right, that, and missing --identifier-prefix | 15:33 |
| nessita | didrocks: when you have a moment, I'd like to ask your input in something related to setup.py for python projects | 15:36 |
| didrocks | nessita: sure, not right now, but in 30 minutes should hopefully be good | 15:36 |
| nessita | didrocks: awesome, would you ping me? | 15:36 |
| didrocks | nessita: sure | 15:36 |
| nessita | thanks! | 15:36 |
| Zdra | seb128, FYI that was strange, just started chrome, it said it is not default, clicked to make it default, and now chrome starts when I click links... but changing in gnome-default-applications-properties didn't work :P | 15:43 |
| seb128 | Zdra, where do you click? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | Zdra, do you use something built with gtk3? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | could be a mismatch gsettings gconf | 15:46 |
| Zdra | seb128, I don't think I have anything using gtk3 | 15:46 |
| seb128 | ok, so I'm not sure why the capplet doesn't work | 15:47 |
| Zdra | seb128, only did dist-upgrade after adding the ppa | 15:47 |
| lamalex | How do I go about requesting that libjson-glib be updated in Natty? | 16:17 |
| jcastro | didrocks: are you going to continue triaging unity bugs this cycle? | 16:20 |
| jcastro | I need to find a bitesize bug as an example, any ideas? | 16:20 |
| didrocks | jcastro: that's what I'm doing nobody else doing it right now… but I won't have the time to do it full cycle | 16:21 |
| jcastro | ok so who is supposed to do it? | 16:21 |
| lamalex | didrocks, you keep doing them before I wake up | 16:21 |
| lamalex | I go through all of my bugmail and go "ok didrocks already did this nm" | 16:22 |
| didrocks | lamalex: there is 20 NEW bugs for a week I didn't touch in purpose | 16:22 |
| didrocks | are* | 16:22 |
| didrocks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:22 |
| jcastro | lamalex: ok so it's supposed to be you? | 16:22 |
| didrocks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:22 |
| didrocks | 29 in fact :) | 16:22 |
| lamalex | jcastro, I think so.. | 16:23 |
| jcastro | lamalex: ok, I'm going to be doing a bitesize-bug campaign, basically like papercuts but for unity. | 16:23 |
| didrocks | lamalex: you should begin with that then ^ | 16:23 |
| lamalex | ok, didrocks I will | 16:23 |
| jcastro | lamalex: so as you get them if they're "easyish" please tag them bitesize | 16:23 |
| didrocks | jcastro: we should only starts once compiz plugin is in natty | 16:23 |
| jcastro | and then I will have a campaign to get new contributors starting on bitesize bugs | 16:23 |
| lamalex | yah | 16:24 |
| jcastro | didrocks: right, but I am explaining now before we forget | 16:24 |
| didrocks | jcastro: I would propose also a hug day on compiz and unity (well, 2 in fact) | 16:24 |
| jcastro | didrocks: yeah I will work with pedro on those | 16:24 |
| jcastro | don't worry we'll have plenty of those I am sure! | 16:24 |
| didrocks | unity in particular as we will have a lot of bug resolved by the compiz transition :) | 16:24 |
| jcastro | I suspect we'll close 300 bugs when it lands | 16:25 |
| jcastro | and then open 300 new ones! | 16:25 |
| lamalex | didrocks, do you know about how to get json-glib updated? | 16:26 |
| didrocks | lamalex: well, as I don't have time to follow closely the glib update, I'm not sure | 16:27 |
| didrocks | jcastro: hehe | 16:27 |
| didrocks | hum, weird | 16:27 |
| lamalex | didrocks, it's not actually part of glib | 16:27 |
| jcastro | lamalex: ok so like if you can identify bitesize's as they come in that would be <3 | 16:27 |
| didrocks | E: compiz-core: unstripped-binary-or-object ./usr/bin/compiz | 16:27 |
| didrocks | (that was on purpose) | 16:27 |
| didrocks | but: | 16:28 |
| didrocks | Reading symbols from /usr/bin/compiz...(no debugging symbols found)...done. | 16:28 |
| didrocks | oh, I think I got it | 16:28 |
| seb128 | lamalex, you should ask rodrigo_ | 16:29 |
| seb128 | he's the maintainer | 16:29 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, well, I don't maintain json-glib, I just use it in couchdb-glib | 16:29 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: seems you maintain it now :) | 16:30 |
| rodrigo_ | upstream or the package? :) | 16:30 |
| didrocks | (congrats!) | 16:30 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, :-D | 16:30 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, should be safe to upgrade, and I think nothing else uses it | 16:30 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, I'm happy to do the work, I just can't find a document explaining how to do it | 16:30 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, hmm, the ubuntu-desktop branch should do all the magic | 16:31 |
| lamalex | it seems like the lp:ubuntu/json-glib package includes the whole source and just just the debian dir | 16:31 |
| lamalex | which seems weird to me | 16:31 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, just branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/json-glib/ubuntu, add the new version to debian/changelog | 16:31 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, and propose that branch (after making sure it builds) | 16:31 |
| kklimonda_ | hmm, looks like I have a hilight set on json-glib - every time it's mentioned I somehow end up reading the discussion ;) | 16:31 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda_, :) | 16:32 |
| kklimonda_ | good evening :) | 16:32 |
| rodrigo_ | hello kklimonda_ | 16:32 |
| seb128 | lamalex, don't bother with learning packaging for that | 16:33 |
| seb128 | I can do the update for you | 16:33 |
| lamalex | seb128, ha ok | 16:33 |
| * lamalex is kind of interested though | 16:33 | |
| lamalex | also I need the package on maverick | 16:33 |
| lamalex | (or I'd like it) | 16:33 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, can we upgrade packages now in natty? | 16:34 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, json-glib one, that is | 16:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yes | 16:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you want to do the update? | 16:34 |
| rodrigo_ | if lamalex wants to learn doing it, I'm ok, if not, sure, I'll do it | 16:34 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, I think it'd be good for me to know | 16:35 |
| lamalex | but I can't find the json-glib project in ~ubuntu-desktop | 16:35 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, oh, maybe it's not there | 16:35 |
| lamalex | I dont think itis | 16:35 |
| lamalex | there is lp:ubuntu/json-glib | 16:35 |
| lamalex | is that the same? | 16:35 |
| rodrigo_ | no | 16:35 |
| lamalex | is that a source package? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | lamalex, debcheckout json-glib | 16:35 |
| rodrigo_ | in that case, branch lp:ubuntu/json-glib | 16:35 |
| micahg | would any of the GNOME library updates have caused bug 662387 requiring a rebuild? | 16:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 662387 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome-shell aborts, can't find schema 'org.gnome.shell" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/662387 | 16:36 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, and then -> bzr merge-upstream new-tarball.tar.gz --version $new_version | 16:36 |
| lamalex | seb128, No repository found for package libjson-glib-1.0-0. | 16:36 |
| seb128 | micahg, I doubt our g-s version uses gsettings | 16:36 |
| seb128 | lamalex, right, which means it doesn't have a specific vcs | 16:36 |
| micahg | seb128: so, should I update to 2.91.1? | 16:36 |
| seb128 | lamalex, otherwise it would have done the checkout for you, but what rodrigo says | 16:36 |
| seb128 | micahg, you can try, I'm pretty sure we lack depends for it | 16:37 |
| seb128 | it requires a gtk3 stack, updated gjs, etc | 16:37 |
| micahg | seb128: ah, ok, so I guess I'll just let it be broke until more gtk3 components are in? | 16:37 |
| seb128 | I guess so | 16:37 |
| seb128 | you can try to update but I think it will lack things | 16:38 |
| micahg | seb128: ok, thanks, I'll plan on updating, but not before some other components | 16:38 |
| seb128 | well if you try let us know what is missing | 16:39 |
| seb128 | we can try to get those in natty next maybe | 16:39 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, bzr: ERROR: Unknown target distribution: natty | 16:40 |
| micahg | seb128: ok, I just won't have time until later this month to really start digging | 16:40 |
| didrocks | nessita: ping, sorry, was quite delayed but it's ok now :) | 16:41 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, nm | 16:41 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, you are on maverick? | 16:41 |
| seb128 | lamalex, you are on maverick? | 16:41 |
| lamalex | i am on maverick | 16:42 |
| rodrigo_ | right, it doesn't know about natty | 16:42 |
| seb128 | bug #668764 | 16:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 668764 in bzr-builddeb (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "Add Natty to the list of known distros (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668764 | 16:42 |
| seb128 | lamalex, edit /usr/share/pyshared/bzrlib/plugins/builddeb/util.py | 16:42 |
| seb128 | then add natty to UBUNTU_RELEASES | 16:42 |
| lamalex | yes, I that's why I said nm :) | 16:42 |
| lamalex | i think one of you guys should just do this, it's erroring when I build | 16:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ^ | 16:47 |
| lamalex | ah wait it was because I was just doing dbuild | 16:47 |
| lamalex | so bzr was f'ing it up | 16:47 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, bzr bd is what you need | 16:47 |
| rodrigo_ | bzr bd -- -b | 16:48 |
| lamalex | yeah, I remembered | 16:48 |
| nessita | didrocks: argh, can I ping you back in 15 minutes? I'm about to have lunch | 16:48 |
| nessita | :-) | 16:48 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, if you can't build it, let me know and I'll do it | 16:49 |
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| seb128 | nessita, enjoy your lunch ;-) | 16:50 |
| didrocks | nessita: sure, enjoy :) | 16:50 |
| didrocks | /me quit "tooo late :-)" | 16:50 |
| nessita | thanks! | 16:51 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, how do I tell it not to try and sign the deb? | 16:58 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, no idea, I always sign it | 16:59 |
| rodrigo_ | but it's done via debuild, so look at its man page | 16:59 |
| rodrigo_ | in fact, what I run is bzr bd -- -b -k'rodrigo.moya@canonical.com' | 16:59 |
| rodrigo_ | whatever you put after the '--' is passed to debuild | 17:00 |
| and471 | mpt, hey, so I have spoken with kvalo and I shall be starting on the UI code for the Networking mockups :) | 17:01 |
| mpt | and471, cool bananas | 17:01 |
| and471 | mpt, I ahve done some more work on the toggleswitch thing, if you download this script and run it ( python script.py ) | 17:01 |
| and471 | hehe | 17:01 |
| and471 | mpt, http://ubuntuone.com/p/NqF/ | 17:02 |
| and471 | mpt, so I have clicking, dragging, snapping - a lot working now :) | 17:02 |
| * mpt runs the program and watches as all his files are deleted and his credit card stops working | 17:03 | |
| lamalex | woo finally building :) | 17:04 |
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| mpt | and471, the last digit of your PI approximation is wrong. It should be 2, not 1 | 17:04 |
| * mpt ducks | 17:05 | |
| * and471 blames nzmm | 17:06 | |
| and471 | mpt, I stole that bit of code so you can blame nzmm :) | 17:07 |
| mpt | oh, yeah, we have a slightly different value for pi in New Zealand | 17:07 |
| mpt | That's why our pies taste better | 17:07 |
| and471 | hehe, silly kiwis... | 17:07 |
| and471 | mpt, so is the switch behaving as you expected? | 17:07 |
| mpt | It's splendid | 17:08 |
| mpt | I'm wondering whether the sliding "ON" and "OFF" is actually better than leaving them static underneath the sliding switch, though | 17:08 |
| and471 | mpt, basically I just copied the iphone in this case, but I can change it if need be | 17:10 |
| and471 | mpt, I personally think it looks better when they do slide, but that is becuase it is more *shiny* :) | 17:10 |
| and471 | *because | 17:10 |
| mpt | mm | 17:11 |
| mpt | The lower left corner is just a tiny bit squarer than the other corners | 17:11 |
| nessita | didrocks: I'm back, are you available? | 17:12 |
| didrocks | nessita: sure | 17:12 |
| and471 | mpt, I don't actually know how that would be possible | 17:12 |
| and471 | mpt, I can't see it myself | 17:12 |
| mpt | and471, the lower right corner is #d4d2d0, but the lower left corner is darker, #d4d0cd. The only way I can think that's happening is if the radius is slightly smaller for that corner. Or if the curve is not starting in quite the same place. | 17:13 |
| nessita | didrocks: so, I was wondering what's the proper way of dealing with paths within a python project. For instance, at installation time we need to have certain files placed in certain folders. I was wondering what's the proper way to deal with this. | 17:13 |
| nessita | didrocks: example: providing a DBus service that needs a particular file placed somewhere in the filesystem | 17:13 |
| mpt | and471, other than that, it's excellent work, well done. | 17:14 |
| didrocks | nessita: what do you use, in setup.py, python-distutils, python-distutils-extra or distribute? | 17:14 |
| nessita | didrocks: python-distutils-extra, but I can change to whatever you recommned | 17:14 |
| nessita | recommend* | 17:15 |
| didrocks | no python-distutils-extra is fine :) | 17:15 |
| and471 | mpt, thankyou, I shall have a look at that later | 17:15 |
| didrocks | let's see if there is dbus service file support in it | 17:15 |
| nessita | didrocks: in my current setup.py, the /usr/lib/<project>/<service> path is hardcoded and I can't sleep at night because of it | 17:16 |
| didrocks | nessita: I'm not the only one the be stressed easily then :) | 17:16 |
| didrocks | why the service file should be there? | 17:17 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, I can't figure out how to propose a merge on this | 17:17 |
| lamalex | my branch is at https://code.launchpad.net/~alexlauni/+junk/json-glib-0.12 | 17:17 |
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| didrocks | nessita: python-distutils-extra should ship it to /usr/share/dbus-1/services/ automatically | 17:17 |
| didrocks | (it should just be a services file at the root of your project) | 17:17 |
| nessita | didrocks: yes to the .service file, but | 17:17 |
| mpt | and471, ah, the lower left corner pixel is only darker after the first click on the switch after focusing the window -- and then, only when I'm not mousing down on the switch. Mouse down, it gets lighter; mouse up, it gets darker again. | 17:17 |
| nessita | didrocks: the .service file has a path in it | 17:17 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, oh, +junk branches cannot be proposed, afaik | 17:18 |
| nessita | didrocks: and I'd like that path not be hardcoded. Current example of a .service file: | 17:18 |
| didrocks | nessita: oh, your "service" itself, ok | 17:18 |
| nessita | yes | 17:18 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, i couldn't figure out what the correct path was to push to | 17:18 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, you should have pushed to lp:~alexlauni/ubuntu/json-glib/json-glib-0.12.0 | 17:18 |
| didrocks | nessita: hum, you need to add this automagic in setup.py so, reading from a service.in generating a service file from the values in it | 17:19 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, then you'll see a 'propose for merging' link, and then propose it for lp:ubuntu/json-glib | 17:19 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, yeah I tried that and got bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~alexlauni/ubuntu/json-glib/json-glib-0.12.0": No such distribution series json-glib. | 17:19 |
| didrocks | nessita: let me find you an example | 17:19 |
| nessita | didrocks: right. But how can I fing out which path use to replace? | 17:19 |
| nessita | didrocks: current .service file is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/528253/ | 17:19 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, yeah, it's lp:~alexlauni/ubuntu/natty/json-glib/json-glib-0.12.0 | 17:19 |
| nessita | didrocks: in a aideal world, /usr/lib/ubuntuone-control-panel is not hardcoded | 17:19 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, yes I just tried that right now :P | 17:20 |
| nessita | didrocks: and I replace that path using something given at installation time | 17:20 |
| lamalex | and it appears to be working | 17:20 |
| and471 | mpt, ah I see what you mean now, I shall note it but I am a bit busy now, it is definitely something to look at | 17:20 |
| didrocks | nessita: you hardcoded it in setup.py btw? or you just install it using the .install file? | 17:21 |
| nessita | didrocks: what's a .install file? I'm not using any | 17:21 |
| lamalex | rodrigo_, thanks for all of your help! https://code.launchpad.net/~alexlauni/ubuntu/natty/json-glib/json-glib-0.12.0/+merge/40353 | 17:22 |
| didrocks | nessita: in other world, how you say "install ubuntuone-control-panel-backend there…" | 17:22 |
| lamalex | lots was learned | 17:22 |
| nessita | didrocks: using data_files | 17:22 |
| nessita | didrocks: | 17:22 |
| nessita | 91 ('lib/ubuntuone-client', ['bin/ubuntuone-control-panel', | 17:22 |
| nessita | 92 'bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-backend']), | 17:22 |
| nessita | maybe that's my problem? | 17:23 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, then you just need $prefix support, I have that somewhere, one sec | 17:23 |
| rodrigo_ | lamalex, now you need to ping someone to sponsor the package, I can't do it yet | 17:23 |
| lamalex | ;) ok | 17:23 |
| lamalex | didrocks, seb128? ^ | 17:24 |
| seb128 | lamalex, didrocks, rodrigo_: ok | 17:24 |
| nessita | didrocks: so I shouldn't be using .install files? (whatever they are :-p) | 17:24 |
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| didrocks | nessita: no, .install is only for packaging :) | 17:24 |
| didrocks | nessita: one second, building a skeleton in a pastebin | 17:24 |
| nessita | didrocks: ok, thanks! | 17:25 |
| didrocks | nessita: is that understandable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/528257/ ? | 17:28 |
| * nessita looks | 17:28 | |
| nessita | didrocks: nice! is pretty understandable | 17:29 |
| nessita | didrocks: I'll fix both ussoc and u1cp setup.py | 17:29 |
| didrocks | nessita: nice :) | 17:29 |
| nessita | didrocks: another (not related) question: Chipaca mentioned I had a work item assigned to me in https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-oneconf. Can you please clarify what the work item is? | 17:30 |
| nessita | didrocks: I'm not sure that "provide dbus method for u1 sso so that a popup dialog isn't needed" is what we discussed in the session, that's why I'm asking | 17:31 |
| lamalex | and471, that toggle is quite nice | 17:33 |
| didrocks | nessita: isn't that what you told me? something so that I can ask for signing in without having the u1 sso dialog? | 17:34 |
| nessita | didrocks: mmmm nopes :-) What we agreed on (I think) is the following: | 17:35 |
| nessita | * the installer will use the current (existent) dbus service to login a user (this dbus service is located at com.ubuntu.sso, object path /com/ubuntu/sso/accounts, interface com.ubuntu.sso.UserManagement). The method name is 'login', and it returns the SSO credentials | 17:37 |
| nessita | * the installer will store the credentials <somewhere> | 17:37 |
| nessita | * at first boot, the installer will grab those credentials from <somewhere> and store them using the new (this is new, yes) dbus method | 17:38 |
| nessita | didrocks: so my work item would be to provide this dbus method to store credentials. | 17:38 |
| didrocks | nessita: yeah, I mix the "store them using the new dbus method", sorry for the wording, can you update the wi? | 17:38 |
| didrocks | waow, Shift + w is a shortcut for the expose mode in compiz now | 17:39 |
| nessita | didrocks: sure! but I wanted to be in synch with you | 17:39 |
| and471 | lamalex, thankyou :) | 17:39 |
| didrocks | weird when you try to type wi in capital letters :) | 17:39 |
| nessita | didrocks: FYI, the new dbus method is already in place, but crashes because the keyring can't be accessed within a thread (!) | 17:39 |
| nessita | but yes, we need to fix that (Still trying to see how we're fixing it, no clear view of that) | 17:40 |
| didrocks | nessita: nice (or sort of nice :)). Thanks for the info | 17:40 |
| * rodrigo_ bbl | 17:40 | |
| nessita | didrocks: blueprint updated and branch linked | 17:42 |
| didrocks | nessita: thanks :) | 17:42 |
| seb128 | lamalex, you need at least to update the gobject-introspection build-depends to match the configure requirement | 17:42 |
| seb128 | in the json-glib update | 17:42 |
| seb128 | lamalex, you need also to update the shlibs or build a .symbol | 17:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ do you think you could help lamalex to get the json-glib update done? | 17:44 |
| lamalex | updated the build-depends | 17:46 |
| nessita | didrocks: where can I learn what directories/files are automatically handled by distutils-extra? | 17:47 |
| lamalex | seb128, shouldn't shlibs be handled automagically? | 17:47 |
| lamalex | isn't that why it depends on $shelibs | 17:48 |
| didrocks | nessita: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/DistUtilsExtra/auto.py, at the top, you have a description | 17:48 |
| nessita | didrocks: thanks! | 17:48 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 17:48 |
| seb128 | lamalex, no, there is no easy way to know what symbols were in the previous version or added in the source you build | 17:49 |
| lamalex | Why is that part of the packaging? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | lamalex, because depends are part of the packaging system | 17:52 |
| seb128 | lamalex, http://wiki.debian.org/UsingSymbolsFiles | 17:52 |
| seb128 | lamalex, there is nothing which tell you in a reliable way what symbol has been added when in the upstream world | 17:52 |
| seb128 | debian used to use shlibs | 17:53 |
| seb128 | which is a way to say "this version has the current api, so depends on it if you want to be sure to work" | 17:53 |
| seb128 | the maintainer had to bump that number every time the abi change | 17:53 |
| seb128 | nowadays we have symbols | 17:53 |
| seb128 | basically the dpkg wrapper checks all the symbols shipped | 17:53 |
| lamalex | ah | 17:54 |
| lamalex | i dont really get how to make a symbols file, that wiki page isn't very helpful if you're not familiar with the whole thing | 17:55 |
| lamalex | do I need to manually write a list of the symbols? | 17:56 |
| seb128 | no | 17:57 |
| seb128 | dpkg-gensymbols do that for you | 17:57 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ can you help him? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | I'm to finish some task and run for sport in 15 minutes | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | seb128, sure can | 17:57 |
| james_w | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/stefanlsd/dpkg-gensymbols might help | 17:57 |
| seb128 | james_w, hey ;-) thanks | 17:57 |
| lamalex | this packaging stuff is for the birds man | 18:00 |
| lamalex | I don't know how you guys do i | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | lamalex, is that link more helpful? | 18:00 |
| lamalex | kenvandine, not sure. reading it now | 18:01 |
| lamalex | it certainly has more on it | 18:01 |
| nessita | didrocks: have slot for another distutils extra question? | 18:11 |
| didrocks | nessita: sure | 18:14 |
| nessita | didrocks: when the help says "* D-Bus (*.conf and *.service)" or "* GtkBuilder (*.ui) [installed into prefix/share/<projectname>/]", how can I know in which directory should I place the .service and .ui files? | 18:15 |
| nessita | didrocks: so those are correctly grabbed and used | 18:15 |
| didrocks | nessita: it's in src | 18:19 |
| didrocks | for f in src_fileglob(src, '*.service'): | 18:19 |
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| nessita | didrocks: right. Another question (can't promise it will be the last one :-P): what command should I override to customize the cleaning process? | 18:34 |
| didrocks | nessita: something like "clean"? :) | 18:35 |
| nessita | didrocks: I don't see the DistUtilsExtra.auto.clean definition in order to override it | 18:36 |
| didrocks | nessita: it's clean_build_tree you should call at the end | 18:37 |
| didrocks | nessita: so, override the clean call, and inherite from a clean_build_tree class | 18:38 |
| nessita | didrocks: when you say clean call you mean the 'clean' key in the cmdclass dict, right? | 18:39 |
| didrocks | nessita: no, I mean something like that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/528285/ | 18:41 |
| didrocks | (the latest call of run()) | 18:41 |
| nessita | didrocks: that's what I meant! :-P | 18:43 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, I was thinking you were speaking about the cmdclass={'clean': BlablaClean}) line where I was speaking about the DistUtilsExtra.auto.clean_build_tree.run(self) call :) | 18:44 |
| nessita | didrocks: kinda, but I understood correctly, so thanks, | 18:45 |
| didrocks | nessita: yw :) | 18:45 |
| nessita | didrocks: why not using super() instead of DistUtilsExtra.auto.clean_build_tree.run(self) ? | 18:48 |
| nessita | same question for install)auto | 18:48 |
| nessita | install_auto* | 18:48 |
| didrocks | nessita: no reason, that's better to use super() indeed | 18:48 |
| didrocks | well, at least, no reason I can think of :) | 18:49 |
| nessita | ack :-) | 18:49 |
| didrocks | dinner and sport, goodnight everybody! | 18:58 |
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| bryceh | seb128, can you assign this blueprint over to me? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-easy-wayland-testing | 19:33 |
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| rodrigo_ | any idea why I get this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/528353/ | 20:51 |
| rodrigo_ | if I remove the dh --with-autoreconf line, it doesn't fail, but it fails on missing ./configure, although it is in the upstream tarball | 20:51 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, the dh --with autoreconf cleanbuilddir line seems wrong, the list should be comman separated | 20:52 |
| chrisccoulson | *comma | 20:52 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm | 20:52 |
| chrisccoulson | at least, i think so ;) | 20:53 |
| rodrigo_ | %:: | 20:53 |
| rodrigo_ | dh --with autoreconf $@ | 20:53 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 20:53 |
| rodrigo_ | the upstream tarball doesn't have an autogen.sh, that's why I added that | 20:53 |
| rodrigo_ | debian/rules -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/528357/ | 20:54 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess mixing CDBS and dh7 might not help there | 20:55 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, some CDBS target has a dependency on cleanbuilddir, which triggers the match-all target in your debian/rules | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | and cleanbuilddir is not a valid debhelper target | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | that's the problem :) | 20:56 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, so, you need to decide between dh7 and cdbs. if you use cdbs, then you should drop the match-all target from debian/rules and include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/autoreconf.mk | 20:58 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 20:58 |
| rodrigo_ | what would you suggest? dh or cdbs? | 20:58 |
| chrisccoulson | or you could use dh7, which would mean you'd drop the CDBS includes, and then use the dh7 way of specifying configure flags | 20:59 |
| chrisccoulson | most people are moving from cdbs to dh7 | 20:59 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 20:59 |
| chrisccoulson | if you use dh7, i think you need to provide an override_dh_auto_configure target, which calls dh_auto_configure with your configure arguments | 21:00 |
| chrisccoulson | the manpage for dh_auto_configure might say how to do that though | 21:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't use dh7 yet | 21:01 |
| latenite | Hi folk, I use pam_usb and a usbstick to login to my system. All I editet in /etc/pam.d/ is http://pastie.org/1282660 BUT after successfully login in WITH the stick I STILL get asked for the keyring password? I ont want that! How do I unlock the keyring also? Thanks | 21:18 |
| latenite | anybody up in here? | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | latenite: yes, people are here, but support is in #ubuntu | 21:24 |
| latenite | ohh ok did n know | 21:24 |
| latenite | what in here? | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | home of the Desktop team | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | mostly the developers | 21:25 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, now it builds! | 21:25 |
| rodrigo_ | not sure if it's a hack what I came up with, so will push my branch for a review | 21:25 |
| latenite | charlie-tca, oh ok :) sorry for jumping in so quick...did n know :) | 21:27 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 21:27 |
| seb128 | bryceh, done | 21:35 |
| bryceh | seb128, thanks | 21:36 |
| seb128 | np | 21:36 |
| seb128 | bryceh, you probably want to update the workitems, or at least the distro serie | 21:36 |
| bryceh | seb128, ok | 21:38 |
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| czajkowski | kenvandine: what does one do when Unity has a hissy fit and freezes doing ctl alt F1 seems less than a great solution | 22:37 |
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