| eagles0513875 | holstein: i experienced the same symptoms on lucid as well | 05:03 |
|---|---|---|
| holstein | have you tested the memory? | 05:04 |
| eagles0513875 | memory is fine | 05:04 |
| holstein | how about the iso image? | 05:04 |
| eagles0513875 | gonna try with alternate install | 05:04 |
| eagles0513875 | iso is fine | 05:04 |
| holstein | thats interesting | 05:05 |
| holstein | ive installed lucid on a bunch of boxes | 05:05 |
| holstein | and havent had anything like that | 05:05 |
| eagles0513875 | im installing to a 2tb hdd if that makes a world of difference | 05:06 |
| eagles0513875 | i know for a 2 tb hdd you need gpt enabled in the kernel | 05:06 |
| holstein | ive never installed to a HD that size | 05:07 |
| holstein | so thats plausible | 05:07 |
| holstein | and fits in with the hardware scenario i was thinking | 05:07 |
| eagles0513875 | holstein: what scenario | 05:24 |
| holstein | that its a hardware issue | 05:25 |
| eagles0513875 | holstein: the funny thing is if i use ubuntu server it installs just fine | 05:25 |
| eagles0513875 | or even the alternate install works just fine | 05:25 |
| holstein | well, not broken hardware | 05:25 |
| eagles0513875 | so its a problem with ubiquity | 05:25 |
| eagles0513875 | waiting for alternate cd to be burned | 05:25 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:25 |
| holstein | what graphics card? | 05:26 |
| holstein | nvidia? | 05:26 |
| eagles0513875 | nvidia 8800gt 1gb | 05:26 |
| holstein | do you get to a live environment? | 05:26 |
| eagles0513875 | holstein: i get the live environment | 05:26 |
| holstein | who knows | 05:26 |
| eagles0513875 | this is quite a serious issue though | 05:27 |
| eagles0513875 | especially since drives larger then 1tb are becoming more common place | 05:27 |
| holstein | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/613964 | 05:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 613964 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu) "Nvidia 8800GT - failure to initialize error ?? (affects: 1) (heat: 37)" [Undecided,New] | 05:28 |
| holstein | ^^ anything like that? | 05:28 |
| holstein | eagles0513875: im leaning more towards the graphics card | 05:28 |
| eagles0513875 | nope nothing like that | 05:29 |
| holstein | still | 05:30 |
| holstein | thats my vote | 05:30 |
| eagles0513875 | holstein: im trying to do a clean install | 05:30 |
| eagles0513875 | the nvidia driver wouldnt even be installed at this point off the live cd | 05:30 |
| holstein | yup | 05:30 |
| eagles0513875 | trying the alternate cd | 05:35 |
| eagles0513875 | see if i have any better luck | 05:35 |
| eagles0513875 | here goes nothing | 05:37 |
| eagles0513875 | partitioning lvm atm | 05:37 |
| eagles0513875 | holstein: :( install hung in installtion of the base system preparing usbutils 94% | 05:52 |
| holstein | i guess i would try another hard drive | 05:58 |
| holstein | and try and rule that out | 05:58 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 05:58 |
| holstein | then try a different graphics card | 05:59 |
| holstein | and try and rule that out | 05:59 |
| eagles0513875 | now the graphics card could be an issue :-/ | 05:59 |
| holstein | thats still my vote | 05:59 |
| holstein | i had a via chip | 05:59 |
| holstein | i could get to the desktop live | 05:59 |
| holstein | and not after install | 05:59 |
| eagles0513875 | humm | 05:59 |
| holstein | i think that was back at intrepid | 05:59 |
| eagles0513875 | ahh | 06:00 |
| eagles0513875 | holstein: managed to get it installed | 06:15 |
| eagles0513875 | there is somethign up with the installer | 06:15 |
| eagles0513875 | managed to get it installed on a 500gb lvm partition on my 2tb drive | 06:16 |
| sosaited | I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit via a USB that I prepared via Unetbootin on Windows 7, but after the language selection I get an error saying can't read files from cd. How can I fix this? | 06:36 |
| eagles0513875 | sosaited: what is the exact error its saying | 06:38 |
| sosaited | I don't remember exactly, but it first says reading data from Cdrom, and then it says "There was a problem reading data from cd". | 06:39 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: If I try installing with frugal method, I get can't mount cdrom. | 06:40 |
| eagles0513875 | frugal method?? | 06:40 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: I tried adding "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" before quiet in the menu, but that didn't fix it. | 06:40 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Install from hard drive. | 06:40 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Is there any way when the error is displayed, or before that (Language selection/keyboard selection), to open up some terminal and mount the usb as cd rom?. Or any other way I can fix this. I am using alternate cd btw | 06:41 |
| eagles0513875 | depending on the hardware you should be able to boot directly off the usb | 06:42 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: The boot works fine., But after selecting the language etc. It gives this error | 06:42 |
| eagles0513875 | odd i havent seen that im using cd though. having other installation issues which seem to have been fixed | 06:43 |
| eagles0513875 | sosaited: did you reformat the usb that u created teh bootable install on | 06:43 |
| sosaited | Yes I did. I was gong to try Universal boot iso or Multiple ISO boot from pendrive, but I guess those don't work on 1GB drives. | 06:44 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Are you familiar with why Unetbootin creates an "Install" menu and an "Install Ubuntu" Menu?. | 06:45 |
| eagles0513875 | thats something quite new | 06:45 |
| eagles0513875 | tbh | 06:45 |
| eagles0513875 | sosaited: try with a bootable usb of the alternate cd | 06:46 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Actually I have been searching on internet for a few days, and this seems to be happening to a few others as well. But adding the "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" fixed it for them | 06:46 |
| eagles0513875 | wait | 06:46 |
| eagles0513875 | i got it | 06:46 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: I already have the alternate cd | 06:46 |
| eagles0513875 | wait | 06:46 |
| eagles0513875 | on the unetbootin menu you should be able to specify boot parameters | 06:47 |
| sosaited | Yes | 06:47 |
| sosaited | By pressing tab | 06:47 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: I did add the cdrom /try command by that | 06:47 |
| eagles0513875 | type that in there | 06:47 |
| eagles0513875 | and nothing | 06:47 |
| sosaited | I even changed the syslinux.cfg file to add that | 06:47 |
| eagles0513875 | careful there that could be whats giving you the error | 06:48 |
| eagles0513875 | the modifications to the syslinux.cfg | 06:48 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: You mean when preparing the usb? Or when the boot menu appears | 06:48 |
| eagles0513875 | at what point did you modify the syslinux.cfg | 06:48 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: But I tried those after trying everything else | 06:48 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: after I have tried adding the commands manually at boot menu, and tried the hard drive method | 06:49 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: If I try to install via selecting "Install", it tries to configure dhcp and internet and then asks to select archive mirrors.. | 06:49 |
| eagles0513875 | sosaited: what connection u on | 06:50 |
| sosaited | It is a cdma usb modem. Will need to configure it via wvdial after install. | 06:50 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: But selecting the "Install Ubuntu" option doesn't give that select mirror options.. it proceeds normally, until the cdrom error | 06:51 |
| eagles0513875 | no chance for getting on ethernet | 06:51 |
| eagles0513875 | ahh | 06:51 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: I am afraid not. | 06:51 |
| eagles0513875 | what if you use the alternate cd | 06:51 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: I am already using alternate cd as I mentioned. | 06:52 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: It is infact a laptop of my friend, and I have to support/guide her on phone. | 06:52 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: When I installed 10.04 on my desktop from karmic and unetbootin, I used to get the same cdrom problem with desktop cd. I had to use the alternate one .. and manally add casper and iso stuff commands to grub | 06:53 |
| eagles0513875 | ahh | 06:53 |
| eagles0513875 | im not sure sosaited | 06:53 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Is there any way to pull up a command/terminal when the install begins or when that error apears? | 06:54 |
| sosaited | Some people have wrote pressing F6 would do it., but it didn't in this case. | 06:54 |
| eagles0513875 | try ctrl alt f6 | 06:56 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: If a terminal does appear, can you tell some command that will mount the usb or the hard drive root (in case of installing from hard drive ) as the cdrom? | 06:58 |
| eagles0513875 | for starters why are you installing of the laptop hard drive | 06:59 |
| sosaited | Because a cd-r is not available. (and in my personal experience the ones normall found here are so low-quality that 3 of them gave errors when I tried to install 10.04 ) | 07:00 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: So either installing from hard drive or usb is the only choice | 07:00 |
| eagles0513875 | sosaited: usb or cd only choices | 07:00 |
| eagles0513875 | are you trying to isntall kubuntu or ubuntu | 07:01 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Actually cd is not a choice right now, but might have to use it if all else fails. | 07:02 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: Ubuntu | 07:02 |
| eagles0513875 | ask in ubuntu they could probably help ya m ore then i | 07:02 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: I have been trying my luck in ubuntu.. but no one seems to know what to do | 07:03 |
| sosaited | eagles0513875: This seems similar http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9981954&postcount=6 | 07:03 |
| sosaited | He got it installed if he tried 10.04. | 07:04 |
| eagles0513875 | humm | 07:05 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1377 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 13:55 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: Fix Ubuntu boot splash images to use 640x480, since otherwise they often | 13:55 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: end up being tiled. | 13:55 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4430 ubiquity/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup 1:0.48ubuntu1, | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: base-installer 1.113ubuntu1, choose-mirror 2.35ubuntu1, clock-setup | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: 0.104ubuntu1, debian-installer-utils 1.80ubuntu1, hw-detect 1.80ubuntu1, | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: netcfg 1.56ubuntu1, partconf 1.34, partman-auto 93ubuntu1, partman-base | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: 145ubuntu1, partman-basicfilesystems 67ubuntu1, partman-basicmethods 45, | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: partman-btrfs 3, partman-ext3 60ubuntu1, partman-jfs 31, | 14:00 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4431 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog ubiquity.install-any): Install new files from apt-setup 1:0.48ubuntu1. | 14:01 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4432 ubiquity/debian/changelog: reorganise changelog slightly | 14:02 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4433 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.0 | 14:23 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1378 ubuntu/build/README: drop duplication caused by merge | 14:37 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1379 ubuntu/build/boot/x86/ (58 files in 2 dirs): update help.xml for build/boot/x86/*.txt changes | 14:52 |
| CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1380 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu1 | 14:58 |
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| kirkland | cjwatson: hey, random question ... in the server installer, the question asking about a proxy; could we first silently check if it appears that a proxy might be needed, before asking the question? | 16:42 |
| cjwatson | we do | 16:44 |
| cjwatson | sort of | 16:44 |
| cjwatson | only really regarding network configuration though. the problem with doing more is that you ought to wait for a timeout | 16:45 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: hmm, okay; so naively i was just thinking a simple wget against something fairly static, with a known value in the file (like md5sums or something) | 17:34 |
| ev | wget> for what it's worth, we do this already in ubiquity for determining whether you're online: http://start.ubuntu.com/connectivity-check.html | 17:36 |
| kirkland | ev: sweet | 17:58 |
| kirkland | ev: i figured we have to do something along those lines for the timezone determination | 17:58 |
| kirkland | ev: i was just wondering if we could ride that to make a smarter guess about the proxy config | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | you can't rely on anything from tzsetup | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | in many cases it is called after mirror selection, and uses the proxy value itself | 18:00 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay; what package do you want the server tasksel bug against? | 18:01 |
| cjwatson | "the server tasksel bug"? | 18:04 |
| cjwatson | wasn't that the one I asked you to file on tasksel? :) | 18:04 |
| cjwatson | we used to try to do something like what you're suggesting for the proxy. I removed it a while back because it caused problems: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/choose-mirror/ubuntu/revision/576 | 18:05 |
| cjwatson | if you want it back, it needs a very short timeout and I need a promise that people aren't going to harass me with bugs when the timeout is a second or two wrong for their crappy slow network. :-) | 18:06 |
| cjwatson | it's easier in ubiquity because the UI can update itself dynamically in response to things coming back from the network - that isn't possible with debconf | 18:07 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, sorry, i must have missed your response about tasksel; doing that now | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | np | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | I spent a while staring at the code diff but it didn't seem anything obvious | 21:06 |
| cjwatson | and the cdebconf db was as I expected | 21:06 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/672755 | 21:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 672755 in tasksel (Ubuntu) "ubuntu 10.10 server default install doesn't install the ubuntu-server tasksel (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 21:08 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: ta | 22:07 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: poke me when/if you need some testing or debugging; happy to help | 22:08 |
| cjwatson | hopefully it'll show in kvm when I have a minute | 22:09 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: as for the proxy one, how long was the wait when people were complaining? | 22:10 |
| cjwatson | I don't remember, sorry | 22:11 |
| cjwatson | you have the code though :) | 22:11 |
| cjwatson | I think it needs to be under 10s, at the absolute outside, and I'm not even sure about that | 22:11 |
| * kirkland checks | 22:12 | |
| kirkland | cjwatson: oh, i was thinking 2 or 3 seconds tops | 22:12 |
| cjwatson | I suspect that in many cases that will false-negative, but anything longer would be too annoying | 22:12 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: agreed; in the false-negative case, they're no worse than they are now | 22:13 |
| cjwatson | if you send a branch with a 3s delay (pref cleaner than that old code from Fabio), I'd merge it | 22:13 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: in the true-positive case, though, we're leaps and bounds better | 22:13 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: k | 22:13 |
| cjwatson | of course, this is assuming that the proxy isn't cheaper than going direct ... | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | I've been in network environments like that | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | you got punitively charged for not going through the proxy | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | probably can't win 'em all, but do remember that kind of thing | 22:14 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: can you shed some light on "pref cleaner" ? b/c I'm tempted to assume that the old way worked, and just add --wait=3 to that wget | 22:17 |
| kirkland | asprintf(&command, "wget --wait=3 -q http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/%s/Release -O - | grep ^Suite: | cut -d' ' -f 2", PREFERRED_DISTRIBUTION); | 22:18 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: as for being cheaper, yes, I use a proxy quite often (approx) to make my installs go faster, but I always preseed those | 22:19 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i guess i see | 22:22 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: a lot of the gorp surrounding that shouldn't really be necessary | 22:22 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: and i'm totally wrong about --wait | 22:23 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i need --timeout=seconds | 22:23 |
| cjwatson | needs to be -T, busybox wget doesn't have --timeout | 23:04 |
| cjwatson | I don't recall about cleanliness exactly, I just remember thinking that the code was messy and I wouldn't be sorry to nuke it | 23:05 |
| cjwatson | I suspect the popen(blah | cut) may have offended my sensibilities | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | shouldn't be needed if you use ev's URL instead | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | I think there might even be a function in libd-i to help | 23:07 |
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