[17:21] <ScottK> jussi: Arrived.
[17:22] <jussi> hi ScottK
[17:25] <jussi> ScottK: the idea is that those who feel the actively contribute on IRC should add themselves.  that includes, developers, users giving support, ops etc.
[17:26] <ScottK> jussi: Right, but that doesn't translate to me to "these are the people that should vote on the IRCC".
[17:26] <jussi> ScottK: could you explain a little more?
[17:27] <ScottK> jussi: There is often some tenstion in the IRC world (I think) between ops and users.
[17:27] <ScottK> IRCC needs to balance these interests.
[17:28] <ScottK> So I think everyone who is an Ubuntu member that uses IRC should have a voice in such an election.
[17:28] <ScottK> I use IRC a lot, but I don't view myself as an "IRC contributor".  To me it's like taking special credit for work that involves email or a telephone.
[17:29] <jussi> ScottK: in general (with admittedly a few exceptions) those members that regularly use IRC are cloaked.
[17:30] <ScottK> jussi: Right, so your target audience was ~correct. The problem was I didn't read your message as meaning I should sign up for the team (I use IRC, but I'm not an IRC person if you know what I mean).
[17:31] <ScottK> I'd just make such an election open to all Ubuntu members.  Ones that don't use IRC, probably won't vote and it saves another team and another set of governance/rules.
[17:32] <jussi> ScottK: that idea was vetoed by the CC - mostly on the grounds of voter fatigue.
[17:32] <ScottK> I see.
[17:32] <jussi> ScottK: please understand this was not our decision. We made suggestions and the cc made a decision.
[17:32] <ScottK> OK.
[17:32] <jussi> ScottK: also, do you have some better wording I could have used for the mail?
[17:33] <ScottK> jussi: Don't think I saved it.  Can you pastebin it somewhere?
[17:34] <ScottK> jussi: Found it.  Nevermind
[17:34] <jussi> :)
[17:35] <ScottK> jussi: So that part I'm confused about is I should join this team if "I want to vote for who's on the IRCC" or "I might want to be on the IRCC someday."?
[17:35] <jussi> Not needed for the second part.
[17:37] <ScottK> When I read what you told lifeless, I thought the former.  When I read your mail, I thought that latter.
[17:38] <jussi> ScottK: right. Ill have another chat with the lads and see if we will send a second mail clarifying.
[17:39] <ScottK> OK.  Have a nice day.