| micahg | tumbleweed: I thought that a patch system was not supposed to be added when SRUing | 01:06 |
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| ScottK | It's not. | 01:13 |
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| jfer | hi, i am new to packaging and i was wondering what you should put in the section part of the control file | 07:05 |
| jfer | i am actually packaging my first package cinelerra for maverick would anyone be able to help me through the process? | 07:12 |
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| tumbleweed | micahg, ScottK: err yes, you aren't wrong. I guess I'm more permissive of them than I should be and in this case it was unwarranted. Should I ask for a queue rejection? | 07:25 |
| dholbach | good morning! | 07:33 |
| jfer | i am wanting to package cinelerra for maverick which source should i use? | 07:45 |
| sladen | jfer: http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu there is link there | 07:57 |
| jfer | should i get the source from sourceforge or the git repository? | 07:58 |
| jfer | how do i find the version of a source? | 08:12 |
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| geser | dholbach: can you update the Homepage link on https://launchpad.net/harvest? | 08:44 |
| dholbach | geser, done | 09:04 |
| geser | directhex: have you an idea what caused the FTBFS in dbus-sharp? (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58627499/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.dbus-sharp_0.7.0-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz) | 10:25 |
| directhex | geser: yes, ricotz has a patch but we haven't had time to apply it | 10:25 |
| directhex | it's a bashism | 10:25 |
| ScottK | tumbleweed: I can reject it. What package? | 11:32 |
| tumbleweed | ScottK: mongodb | 11:32 |
| ScottK | tumbleweed: Rejected. You can reupload using the same version number when ready. | 11:34 |
| tumbleweed | ScottK: thanks, SpamapS consider yourself prodded | 11:35 |
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| ari-tczew | micahg: denunciator of you | 15:09 |
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| rhlee | hi guys, I was wondering how to add a page on the ubuntu wiki? | 16:23 |
| Pici | rhlee: Go to a page that doesn't exist and it should ask you if you want to create it. | 16:26 |
| rhlee | Pici: thanks | 16:26 |
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| shane4ubuntu | ok, I have a ppa enabled, successfully built and uploaded my package, and I have a question, the package I built now is specified only for Maverick, I assume that is from the changelog file, how can I specify for more than one or all of the ubuntu editions? | 17:12 |
| Bachstelze | shane4ubuntu: change maverick to lucid/hardy/whatever in the changelog, it's also a good idea to use different revision numbers (e.g. ~lucidppa1 instead of just ~ppa1) | 17:14 |
| Bachstelze | afaik you can't just upload a package once and have it build on all releases | 17:15 |
| shane4ubuntu | Bachstelze, ok, thanks! | 17:18 |
| SpamapS | tumbleweed: pong.. I am not sure what to do about this SRU | 17:31 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: The part where you added a patch system: don't do that. | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | honestly I'm pretty much done trying to do anything with MongoDB anymore. Its unbelievable the amount of effort required to change anything that links to xulrunner. | 17:31 |
| micahg | SpamapS: do you want me to finish it? | 17:32 |
| SpamapS | micahg: I'll finish what I've started. I'm just frustrated with the level of detail required to get it right when if xulrunner had a real library, this would be a non issue. | 17:33 |
| micahg | SpamapS: well, it doesn't seem to be a priority for Mozilla ATM, maybe after 4.0 is released we can get it revisited | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: shouldn't that be mentioned here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 17:35 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: I'd have thought wanting a minimal diff would cover it. | 17:35 |
| * micahg remembers seeing it in the docs somehwere | 17:36 | |
| ScottK | We'd actually prefer people not add a patch system even for the development release except in coordination with the Debian maintainer. | 17:36 |
| ScottK | It falls under "don't monkey with the build system Debian set up". | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | ScottK: right, so the debian maintainer added it in 1.4... | 17:39 |
| micahg | This is the closest I found,https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Patching%20Other%20People%27s%20Packages, it used to be clearer | 17:39 |
| micahg | SpamapS: but we don't have it in Lucid, so you can't add it | 17:40 |
| SpamapS | So I ask again, should I not have a patch, or patch directly in the debian diff? | 17:41 |
| * SpamapS first asked in the merge proposal | 17:41 | |
| micahg | SpamapS: if we end up updating mongodb to a later version due to the xulrunner change, we'll get a patch system with it most likely, but barring that, we can't add patch systems to Debian packages | 17:41 |
| micahg | SpamapS: patch the source directly | 17:41 |
| ScottK | SpamapS: Make the changes inline (in the upstream code) and then it will appear correctly in the debdiff. | 17:42 |
| ScottK | (as micahg says) | 17:42 |
| SpamapS | Ok, easy enough to rectify. | 17:44 |
| zul | why the hell is mongodb using xulrunner? | 18:02 |
| tumbleweed | zul: presumably for mozjs | 18:04 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: heyo! | 18:07 |
| dholbach | highvoltage, in a call | 18:08 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: ok, if you have some time give me a poke, would like to talk about Gediminas's packages some time | 18:08 |
| dholbach | highvoltage, can you reply to the emails? | 18:09 |
| dholbach | 18:09 | |
| highvoltage | dholbach: I can, it's the content that I need some clarification on. is there any exceptions that can be made, or should I tell him to follow the usual process for all 84 packages? | 18:10 |
| kklimonda_ | ScottK: if there is a bug in backported package should the bug be reported against ${release}-backports AND package, only ${release}-backports or only package? | 18:11 |
| ScottK | kklimonda_: Only against $(release)-backports unless the bug also applies to the development release of Ubuntu, then both. | 18:11 |
| ScottK | The preferred solution in these cases is a new backport. | 18:12 |
| dholbach | highvoltage, can you follow up and I reply to it tomorrow? | 18:13 |
| dholbach | highvoltage, I'm a bit busy right now | 18:13 |
| highvoltage | dholbach: ok | 18:14 |
| dholbach | thanks highvoltage | 18:25 |
| kklimonda_ | whoa, why does firmware-b43-installer postinst script aborts if it detects wrong card? | 19:11 |
| kklimonda_ | ah, already reported | 19:11 |
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| ajmitch | micahg: congratulations :) | 20:13 |
| ari-tczew | set topic for him! glory for micahg! | 20:13 |
| micahg | ajmitch: thanks :) | 20:13 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: thank you | 20:13 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: that was ironic... | 20:13 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: PM? | 20:14 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: do you want me to pick up? | 20:14 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: ? | 20:15 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: nevermind... come on | 20:16 |
| sebner | micahg: congrats :) | 20:35 |
| psusi | eh? what are the congradulations for? | 20:37 |
| ScottK | He is MOTU. | 20:38 |
| * sebner waves at ScottK :) | 20:38 | |
| * ebroder suspected that, but irclogs.u.c is lagging | 20:38 | |
| ebroder | Congrats! | 20:39 |
| micahg | sebner: thanks | 20:39 |
| psusi | ohh, congrats | 20:39 |
| micahg | ebroder: psusi: thanks | 20:39 |
| ebroder | (bought time, too :-P) | 20:39 |
| psusi | now do you feel like sponsoring the revival of the defrag package? ;) | 20:39 |
| * micahg would suggest getting it back in Debian first | 20:40 | |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: I think if you have an issue with someone, random complaints during a DMB meeting "<ari-tczew> I don't trust that he will work on clean up sponsors queue" are not a very good way to deal with them. That and I don't understand "<ari-tczew> micahg is building his career by reporting on another folks from IRC rofl" at all, but it sounds childish. | 20:41 |
| micahg | bdrung: re sponsors queue, currently main -> 80, universeish -> 5, do you want me to apply for core-dev? ;) | 20:45 |
| bdrung | micahg: yes :P | 20:46 |
| * micahg reminds chrisccoulson to go for core-dev ^^ :) | 20:46 | |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 20:47 |
| bdrung | micahg: keeping the universe queue empty is easy. get enough people doing sponsoring. | 20:47 |
| micahg | bdrung: k, I'll try to sponsor at least 1 per week (more if time permits) | 20:49 |
| ebroder | micahg: honestly, the universe sponsoring queue seems to be staying short enough that you might have a hard time finding 1 per week needing sponsoring | 20:50 |
| micahg | ebroder: well, there's usually a handful available at any one time when I've checked | 20:51 |
| * micahg has plenty to do though for the Firefox/Xulrunner transition this cycle | 20:52 | |
| JontheEchidna | micahg: congrats | 20:53 |
| micahg | JontheEchidna: thanks | 20:53 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: sorry I missed the meeting, congrats :) | 20:53 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: no problem, thanks | 20:54 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: do you want to talk about it? | 21:00 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: We can if you want. I'm often of the impression that you are trying to be productive, but don't realize how your comments appear to others, so I mention it. If it's worth discussing, I'm willing to do it. | 21:01 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: I would, but today I'm busy busy busy busy. | 21:02 |
| ScottK | OK. Let me know if/when you have time and want to discuss it further. | 21:03 |
| Rhonda | micahg: grats. Thought you were MOTU for a while already. But then, others thought the same about me. ;) | 21:07 |
| ScottK | That's usually a strong sign it's time to apply. | 21:08 |
| micahg | Rhonda: thanks | 21:08 |
| * ScottK reminds kklimonda he's owing a python-visual fix (including the stack under it). | 21:08 | |
| kklimonda | ScottK: actually I'm working on it right now :) | 21:11 |
| ScottK | kklimonda: Excellent. | 21:11 |
| bdrung | is it safe to kill gvfsd and restart it? | 21:17 |
| kklimonda | bdrung: yes | 21:19 |
| kklimonda | bdrung: you will loose all connections but it won't break your desktop :) | 21:19 |
| bdrung | thanks kklimonda - that gives me 2 GiB back without a reboot | 21:20 |
| paddy_ | I tried to tell bzr about my launchpad account but it says I have no ssh keys, it's right but I have an openPGP key instead, can I not use this? | 21:20 |
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| kklimonda | paddy_: no, you need a separate ssh key | 21:28 |
| paddy_ | kklimonda, thanks | 21:36 |
| kklimonda | whoa, this optipng stuff is really slow | 21:54 |
| kklimonda | I shouldn't have pkgbinarymangler installed in pbuilder.. | 21:55 |
| geser | I'm not sure but can't you disable this one through the config files? | 22:11 |
| achiang | micahg: congrats! | 22:29 |
| micahg | achiang: thanks | 22:52 |
| paddy_ | when I bzr branch I get Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. what is wrong? | 23:06 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: When you have some time can you take a look at https://github.com/kklimonda/atkmm1.6 ? | 23:19 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: I also got gtkmm and gtkglext built, I'll see if I can get python-visual to build now | 23:20 |
| ScottK | OK. Great. | 23:21 |
| ScottK | kklimonda: So in terms of the .la file problem, this is just a matter of rebuilding (plus you are making some other improvements)? | 23:24 |
| ScottK | It still needs a debian/changelog entry. | 23:24 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: yes but gtkglextmm won't build with gtkmm < 2.22.0 | 23:24 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: yes, but I'd rather know if the rest of packaging makes sense (especially Breaks/Replaces) - adding a full changelog entry is a matter of few keystrokes. | 23:25 |
| ScottK | kklimonda: At a glance it does. I do not, however, seem to find an existing aktmm1.6 package in the archive, so I'm a bit confused. | 23:26 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: that's the problem, there was non - until now atkmm was part of gtkmm and it has distributed with binary packages generated from gtkmm2.4 | 23:26 |
| kklimonda | there was none* even | 23:27 |
| ScottK | kklimonda: OK. I'm starting to understand. Since this is a new package for Ubuntu, it would be helpful to upload the source to REVU once you've got it ~ there. | 23:27 |
| kklimonda | I was hoping I could get it into debian but I got no response in over a week :/ | 23:28 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: python-visual also builds fine | 23:29 |
| ScottK | kklimonda: | 23:29 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 23:29 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: ok, I'll open a bug on LP and upload atkmm1.6 to revu | 23:29 |
| kklimonda | hmm, interesting - update-maintainer sets me as a Maintainer anyway. Is it proper or should I change it to Ubuntu Developers manually? | 23:33 |
| kklimonda | oh well, I'll just change it | 23:35 |
| kklimonda | ScottK: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/atkmm1.6 | 23:48 |
| JuniperJaxx | :) | 23:58 |
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