[05:24] <formolQC> "no upnp" on a fresh new installation, I never get that before when install process, what happen ?
[05:26] <fluvvell> server address wrong?
[05:29] <formolQC> even if my backend is my frontend (same computer) ?
[05:31] <formolQC> I do not very understand what to do, after many reading, in fact
[05:34] <fluvvell> yes can happen on combined backend frontend.
[05:35] <fluvvell> have you seen   http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Mythbackend_will_not_start_after_upgrade
[05:35] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Troubleshooting:Mythbackend will not start after upgrade - MythTV
[05:36] <formolQC> thx, I'll read that
[05:54] <formolQC> fluvvell, it didn't work. it could be database problem instead of a mythtv problem ?
[06:02] <fluvvell> not usually, I've had the same thing before myself
[06:03] <fluvvell> how many copies of mysql.txt did you find?
[06:09] <fluvvell> formolQC,  how many copies of mysql.txt did you find?
[06:11] <formolQC> I don't know. My computer freeze for an unknow reason (the mouse freeze between two screen on different video card, on a 3 monitors setup)
[06:11] <formolQC> it's the third it happen. "shocking!", as the britain say
[06:11] <formolQC> hehehe
[06:12] <formolQC> curious, /.mythtv is now under another user (lock icon)
[06:13] <fluvvell> formolQC, unknown reason.   :-)  Is your native tongue French?
[06:13] <formolQC> (I ran mythtv-setup with sudo, it modify the user access of mythtv
[06:14] <formolQC> bien sûr, vous aussi ?
[06:14] <fluvvell> Kiwi
[06:14] <fluvvell> mon francais est terrible
[06:15] <fluvvell> but your english inflections were a bit of a givaway :)  Are in in Canada?
[06:16] <formolQC> I hope my answer will not negate your kindness to help me, but  yes and no, mostly no, I'm in Québec.
[06:17] <formolQC> and you?
[06:18] <fluvvell> Not at all. I'll offer help where I can, I'm in between reading my 6yr old daughter a story so please forgive my slow replies.  Kiwii= New Zealander  Nuvelle Zealandia
[06:19] <formolQC> Oh, "Nouvelle Zélande" (in french), I must refer to a map to improove geographic knowledge...
[06:20] <formolQC> I see
[06:21] <formolQC> If you allow me, how monarchy is perceived in New Zealand ?
[06:24] <formolQC> We, in fact, 12 000 km from here, got the same person as Head of state, Elizabeth II. I don't know for you but with this mascot I feel living in the middle-age.
[06:33] <fluvvell> Yes we share the same monarch, who incidentally joined Facebook today!  In New Zealand, she is recognised but plays very little part in the running of the country.
[06:34] <formolQC> wow, the Queen on facebook! heheheà
[06:34] <fluvvell> Yes :-)
[06:35] <fluvvell> Well, how is your MythTV, you said you have 3 monitors? and 2 Video Cards?
[06:36] <formolQC> yes. one PCI-E, one PCI (both nVidia) + one tv tuner card. with ubuntu 10.04 64
[06:36] <formolQC> (and 3 22 inch lcd. and a poor single core CPU hehehe)
[06:42] <fluvvell> I have not tried both a pci and pci-e in one computer. Interesting.
[06:43] <fluvvell> you should run mythtv-setup as your own user
[06:43] <fluvvell> Or from the System menu. Do you have mythbuntu-control-centre installed ?
[06:43] <formolQC> it work, but the there cannot be 1 X session for both videocard
[06:43] <formolQC> yes
[06:44] <fluvvell> can you paste your hosts file and /etc/mysql.txt into paste.ubuntu.com ?
[06:44] <Zinn> [paste.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[06:45] <fluvvell> and the result of      find / -name mysql.txt --exec rm '{}' \;
[06:46] <formolQC> result : find: unknown predicate `--exec'
[06:47] <formolQC> there is no /etc/myswl.txt
[06:47] <formolQC> here is probably a problem...
[06:48] <fluvvell> Sorry, /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[06:48] <formolQC> hm, this file does not exist
[06:49] <fluvvell> how about sudo find / -name mysql.txt
[06:52] <formolQC> nothing found yet, except the other mysql.txt in trash from /.mythtv
[06:55] <fluvvell> Have you got the right system roles configured in MCC ?
[06:55] <formolQC> yes, primary backend and desktop frontend
[06:56] <fluvvell> so you will need to re run mythtv-setup to get your passwords right.
[06:58] <formolQC> I don't understand, I don,t see the possibility of doing that
[07:03] <fluvvell> It should allow you to set up your server and passwords again
[07:10] <fluvvell> Could you please repeat  "I don't understand, I don,t see the possibility of doing that"  in french ?
[07:10] <formolQC> Je ne comprends pas, je ne vois pas la possibilité de faire ça
[07:13] <fluvvell> Ah, I see.  Is your user a member of mythtv group ?
[07:14] <formolQC> yes
[07:14] <fluvvell> from a terminal, mythtv-setup
[07:15] <formolQC> done
[07:17] <formolQC> it says : Access denied for user 'mythtv"@"localhost'
[07:20] <fluvvell> can you paste the contents of your deleted mysql.txt onto paste.ubuntu.com ?
[07:20] <Zinn> [paste.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[07:23] <formolQC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/528032/
[07:23] <Zinn> [paste.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[07:24] <fluvvell> you seem to have deleted your password to mysql
[07:25] <formolQC> heu, that's what for the post online
[07:33] <formolQC> fluvvell, it's time for me to sleep. thank you for you time. see you later
[07:33] <fluvvell> dpkg-reconfigure mythtv might do it
[07:33] <fluvvell> ok good night.
[07:34] <fluvvell> sorry, thats    dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[07:34] <formolQC> wow
[07:34] <formolQC> you won't believe this
[07:34] <formolQC> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv is not installed
[07:35] <formolQC> and i'm installing this package right now
[07:35] <fluvvell> ha ha, ok   but its probably a meta package.
[07:35] <fluvvell> you might also find help at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Troubleshooting
[07:35] <Zinn> [help.ubuntu.com] MythTV/Install/Troubleshooting - Community Ubuntu Documentation
[07:36] <formolQC> yes it seems to be
[07:36] <formolQC> anyway, I will probably erase everything and start from scratch, it will probably be more easy. have a nice day.
[07:37] <fluvvell> ok you too.
[07:38] <fluvvell> Please try the  dpkg-reconfigure  mythtv-common
[07:38] <fluvvell> bye for now.
[08:02] <myth_> Hello everyone.
[08:02] <myth_> >> On Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick I have autobuilds installed but the latest I get is:
[08:02] <myth_> >> Build 0.24.0~trunk26882-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu2 for including the
[08:02] <myth_> >> following oddly named package.
[08:02] <myth_> >>  - libmyth-0.23 (0.23 on the end!!!!!!)
[08:02] <myth_> >>
[08:02] <myth_> >> but I was sure I had seen changesets way beyond this number.
[08:02] <myth_> >>
[08:02] <myth_> >> Are my updates broken?
[08:02] <myth_> >
[08:02] <myth_> > forgot to say that my repository line in synaptic is
[08:02] <myth_> > http://uk.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu
[08:02] <myth_> > Maverick
[08:02] <myth_> > Main
[08:02] <myth_> Also forgot to say that mythbuntu autobuilds repo deb package sets the
[08:02] <myth_> line to an invalid setting of
[08:02] <myth_> http://uk.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/0.23/ubuntu
[08:02] <myth_> maverick
[08:02] <myth_> main
[08:02] <myth_> even when selecting 0.24 when completing
[08:02] <myth_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos
[08:02] <myth_> thanks,R
[08:10] <myth_> sorry, I did mean to make that tidier before i posted.
[14:40] <Udaman> Hello, anyone home?
[14:52] <Gibby> myth_: set your autobuilds to PPA
[14:52] <Gibby> Udaman, whats up
[14:54] <Udaman> Hello Gibby.  Looking for some setup help.
[14:54] <rhpot1991> !ask | Udaman
[14:54] <Zinn> Udaman: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[14:55] <Udaman> Ok, thanks.
[14:59] <Udaman> I've installed Mythbuntu as dual boot.  I wanted to know where to begin my TV setup, what is my first step.  Wiki?
[15:01] <superm1> tgm4883, if uk is broken stil, maybe we should jsut remove it from autobuilds
[15:10] <Gibby> Udaman, have you set up a tuner yet?
[15:10] <rhpot1991> well if you didn't leave I had some links for you...
[17:11] <ourtv> i upgraded to 10.10 and now my hauppauge 1600 has no sound and rmmoding cx18 doesn't help :(
[17:15] <chiluk_wfh> digital or analog tuner?
[17:16] <chiluk_wfh> do you get sound outside of mythtv ?
[17:16] <chiluk_wfh> digital or analog connection to speakers?  These are all questions you need to ask yourself.
[17:17] <tgm4883> myth_, ping
[17:17] <chiluk_wfh> ourtv,  I'm having issues getting sound working for me as well but my speakers are connected over spdif
[17:17] <chiluk_wfh> and I'm not getting sound from the rest of the machine either... so it's not a myth issue for me...
[17:18] <tgm4883> myth_, what is the output of "dpkg -l mythbuntu-repos"
[17:22] <ourtv> chiluk_wfh, analog.  yeah sound works fine outside of myth
[17:23] <chiluk_wfh> ourtv  try playing a capture outside of myth.
[17:23] <chiluk_wfh> if you are not getting sound there that means the capture is not selecting the correct audio source.
[17:24] <chiluk_wfh> ourtv, hmm it looks like the 1600 has a hardware encoder, so I'd expect audio to work outside of myth...
[17:25] <chiluk_wfh> that means you need to configure your mythtv frontend audio settings.
[17:25] <rhpot1991> I'd guess that his sound devices changed with the upgrade
[17:25] <rhpot1991> might just need to reconfigure the sound section for the frontend
[17:26] <chiluk_wfh> rhpot1991 ..... beat you!
[17:26] <ourtv> i'll check but i think they're the same.
[17:26] <chiluk_wfh> ; )
[17:30] <ourtv> boy howdy!  there i was.  all changed and stuff.
[17:30] <chiluk_wfh> so it's working?  congrats..
[17:30] <ourtv> yep
[17:31] <ourtv> thanks a lot
[18:13] <myth_> Hello, I hope someone can help. What is the build number of MythTV 0.24 on Ubuntu via daily builds? I get only 26882
[18:16] <tgm4883> myth_, 27000+ I think
[18:16] <tgm4883> let me check
[18:16] <tgm4883> myth_, 27113
[18:17] <myth_> i think so too... but I dont get it via synaptic. my repository line in synaptic is http://uk.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu maverick main
[18:17] <myth_> could you post yours here for me please?
[18:18] <tgm4883> sec
[18:21] <tgm4883> myth_, looks right, but it looks like UK isn't updated
[18:21] <tgm4883> let me check FR
[18:25] <tgm4883> FR seems old too, let me check PPA
[18:26] <myth_> thanks
[18:26] <tgm4883> ok, PPA is updated
[18:26] <tgm4883> let me check DE
[18:29] <tgm4883> DE is up to date
[18:30] <tgm4883> myth_, so I would use PPA or DE if I were you
[18:30] <tgm4883> not sure why the others are out of date
[18:30] <myth_> thanks for checking that out... are you able to fix this or is there somewhere I need to report this to?
[18:31] <tgm4883> nah, I'm looking into it
[18:31] <tgm4883> you can report a bug on LP if you want
[18:31] <tgm4883> actually, yea, file a bug against mythbuntu on LP that way I don't forget
[18:35] <myth_> ok, i will. thanks
[19:09] <stevieman> I've got a problem with my 10.04 install and my Nvidia GeForce 9500GT in which the svideo only produces a black and white image and I have no sound.
[19:10] <tgm4883> stevieman, sounds like you have it set to the wrong PAL/NTSC
[19:10] <stevieman> tgm4883: I suppose that is possible. I haven't seen where I set that
[19:18] <tgm4883> stevieman, probably somewhere in the proprietary driver settings
[19:18] <tgm4883> or possibly in xorg.conf
[19:19] <stevieman> tgm4883: I'll take a look in xorg, I haven't seen it in the driver settings anywhere
[19:20] <rhpot1991> ya I'm pretty sure you need to do that in your xorg.conf
[19:36] <stevieman> where is xorg.conf located? I can't find it
[19:37] <rhpot1991> /etc/X11
[19:38] <stevieman> rhpot1991: oh, I was hoping that wasn't it. it's too small http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/ZAfqET2F
[19:39] <rhpot1991> that loosk right
[19:39] <rhpot1991> you will have to read the documentation to figure out what to plug in
[19:39] <rhpot1991> or you could try the configuration utility
[19:42] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, X11?
[19:43] <tgm4883> heh, I guess it is
[19:43]  * rhpot1991 knows what is up
[19:43] <rhpot1991> !stab tgm4883, for doubting
[19:43]  * Zinn stabs tgm4883 with a rusty spork, for doubting.
[19:44] <tgm4883> I apparently was remembering my Fedora days from years ago
[19:45] <tgm4883> that does look right though
[19:45] <stevieman> So I can't run X -configure or Xorg -configure
[19:45] <tgm4883> default is pretty bare bones now
[19:46] <rhpot1991> stevieman: there is some nvidia configuration app
[19:46] <fluvvell> Which source did I get mythbuntu-repos from ?
[19:46] <rhpot1991> nvidia-settings
[19:46] <rhpot1991> !autobuilds
[19:46] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about autobuilds
[19:46] <rhpot1991> !autobuild%
[19:46] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about autobuild%
[19:47] <rhpot1991> fluvvell: http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[19:47] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, we should change that to just !auto
[19:47] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: ya or something that I can remember
[19:48] <fluvvell> Cheers!  thanks guys.
[19:52] <stevieman> Does this look better? I used the nvidia-settings http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/EUumuWZM
[19:55]  * rhpot1991 doesn't see anything svideo related in there
[19:59] <tgm4883> on an article about kinect "I was trying out the Kinect Dance Central game and I was getting hot so I took off my clothee. I had no idea that the game was going to take A BUNCH OF PICTURES OF ME WHILE DANCING WITH NO CLOTHES ON!!! I can go back and look at these pictures but HOW DO I DELETE THEM?!!! HELP!!!!"[sic]"
[20:00] <tgm4883> the things some people do
[20:02] <tgm4883> hopefully there will be a linux driver soon so I can control mythtv with it :)
[20:08] <stevieman> rhpot1991: Thats what nvidia-settings kicked out. It indicated that it was using TV-0 (1024x768)
[20:08] <stevieman> is that even the right res for a CRT TV?
[20:16] <stevieman> I'm not sure if I have colour yet, I'll have to check when I get home. I do have another problem, no sound :)
[20:16] <stevieman> :(
[20:18] <stevieman> Where do I check sound settings in 10.04?
[20:19] <rhpot1991> on your frontend, setup > general > 3rd page in
[20:19] <rhpot1991> also check in alsamixer to make sure your sound device isn't muted
[20:23] <stevieman> rhpot1991: I assume I should be using default? I'm using the line out with a phone plug to rca cable
[20:24] <rhpot1991> stevieman: most likely
[20:24] <stevieman> k
[20:28] <tgm4883> stevieman, standard def... no
[20:28] <stevieman> tgm4883: Yah, no HD here... yet
[20:28] <tgm4883> depends on the crt tv, it might be scaling. But if you are using svideo, that is higher res than svideo can handle
[20:30] <stevieman> tgm4883: I thought so, I dropped it down to 800x600. I wonder if that was causing the black and white problem.
[20:30] <rhpot1991> odds are you will need to customize that config pretty good for standard def
[20:30] <rhpot1991> you don't get nice autodetection things like we get with hdmi
[20:30] <tgm4883> IIRC, that is still too high
[20:31] <rhpot1991>  S-Video carries standard definition video (typically at 480i or 576i resolution), but does not carry audio on the same cable.
[20:31] <tgm4883> I want to say 576 is the max horizontal
[20:31] <rhpot1991> grrr
[20:32] <rhpot1991> feel free to wikipedia to find out more
[20:33] <rhpot1991> http://us.download.nvidia.com/solaris/260.19.12/README/configtvout.html
[20:33] <Zinn> [us.download.nvidia.com] Chapter 15. Configuring TV-Out
[20:37] <stevieman> yah the stuff I've been reading says 800x600 or 640x480. I didn't have this problem with 9
[20:37] <stevieman> I should never have selected no-tv during the install
[20:37] <rhpot1991> didn't have the problem with what?
[20:37] <stevieman> mythbuntu 9.(somthing)
[20:38] <rhpot1991> its possible it defaulted to component or something and broke the color that way
[20:41] <stevieman> rhpot1991: Well if something can go wrong, It'll happen to me
[20:42] <stevieman> alsa-mixer is showing the master and PCM output as being not muted
[20:52] <stevieman> alright lastly, hopefully I'm trying to get irexec working so I can exit out of SDLmame but it I cannot get it to work. I have the code to kill mame but I'm unsure where it should go. The mythtv-wiki says to put it in ~/.lircrc but 10.04 doesn't have ~/.lircrc
[20:54] <stevieman> Do I place the code in a ~/.lirc/sdlmame file? or a ~/.lirc/irexec file?
[21:06] <tgm4883> stevieman, I think you can put the code anywhere, but there is another file that lists all of the imports
[21:07] <tgm4883> I'd just stick it in ~/.lirc/mythtv
[21:07] <tgm4883> I would think that would work
[21:07] <tgm4883> is there a ~/.lirc/irexec?
[21:07] <tgm4883> if there is, thats likely a better place for it
[21:11] <stevieman> I made a /irexec but when I press the key on the remote nothing happens.
[21:12] <tgm4883> so irexec would need to be included
[21:12] <tgm4883> I don't have access to my mythbox right now though
[21:12] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, ^
[21:13] <tgm4883> also, you would likely need to reboot in order to start irexec
[21:13] <tgm4883> otherwise it has nothing to pass it to
[21:13] <rhpot1991> upgraded box or fresh install?
[21:16] <stevieman> So here are the steps I've taken, created the file, made sure irexec is running, restarted lircd (just to be safe) and nothing happened. Here is a paste of the irexec file http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/3Su9a5sd
[21:16] <stevieman> This is a fresh install of 10.04
[21:17] <stevieman> In the paste you'll see some commented out lines, I've tired it with the buttons and config swapped and every combo of each, all with the same results. The code for button 5 doesn't do a coin insert either
[22:38] <AndyGraybeal> can anyone recommend a usb or ethernet digital tv receiver that supports closed captioning (or does atsc always support colosed caption?)
[22:56] <castlec> i feel like an idiot but I don't see how to delete previously recorded shows in this version of mythtv.  menu help?
[23:03] <dewman> castlec, hit "m"" for menu?
[23:03] <castlec> then select delete episode?
[23:04] <castlec> is it just me, or was that easier to find in previous versions?
[23:04] <dewman> if thats what you want to do. or you can mark it as watched (if you have it set to autoexpire) and it will delete it when it needs to.
[23:05] <castlec> how do I mark as watched?
[23:05] <dewman> I dont think the key bindings have changed much, unless you made them custom.....
[23:05] <castlec> no, just used the direct menus before. i don't recall needing to press a menu key
[23:06] <castlec> i really just want to delete all of my recordings
[23:06] <castlec> they are over six months old at this point.  i hadn't been using myth in a while
[23:06] <AndyGraybeal> can anyone USB receiver?
[23:06] <AndyGraybeal> or ethernet
[23:07] <dewman> castlec, where are you in the UI?
[23:07] <castlec> verb?
[23:07] <castlec> Previously Recorded
[23:07] <castlec> manage recordings, previously recorded
[23:09] <dewman> so why not manage,recordings, delete recordings?
[23:09] <dewman> err...manage recordings,
[23:09] <dewman> I guess it depends on the menu that you have setup as well.
[23:10] <dewman> I am using mythcenter wide with a Menu theme of default on mine...
[23:10] <castlec> how do i change that?
[23:11] <castlec> i just have defaults.... i've never felt the need to change the theme :)
[23:11] <dewman> utilities/setup
[23:11] <dewman> setup/apperence
[23:12] <castlec> got it
[23:12] <castlec> i have been on terra
[23:12] <dewman> then whatever ui you want, and then the menu theme.
[23:12] <dewman> gotcha...
[23:13] <dewman> then when you goto manage recordings/delete/ you can just hit d for delete, or M for menu...
[23:13] <dewman> on that specific recording.
[23:13] <castlec> yeah, it's getting familiar now
[23:14] <dewman> =)
[23:14] <castlec> is there a site that indexes all of the themes?
[23:14] <dewman> kinda like riding a bike.
[23:14] <dewman> indexes?
[23:15] <castlec> there are options for each layout.  Just curious as to what each are without needing to surf through the whole menu
[23:15] <dewman> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Themes
[23:15] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Category:Themes - MythTV
[23:17] <castlec> thanks for the help guys
[23:18] <castlec> also, i've had what appears to be signal locking issues crashing my whole user session.  is this known?
[23:19] <dewman> not sure....have you looked at your logs?
[23:20] <castlec> not for this particular one.
[23:20] <castlec> i have confirmed it by deleting all channels and re-adding
[23:20] <Seeker`> anyone use mythnetvision?
[23:23] <dewman> sometimes deleting the tuners and sources will clear things up.
[23:24] <dewman> castlec, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/General_Troubleshooting_Tips
[23:24] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] General Troubleshooting Tips - MythTV
[23:24] <castlec> ty
[23:24] <dewman> Seeker`, I would be, but I have a mysql issue with it... =)
[23:24] <dewman> castlec, your welcome. =)
[23:25] <castlec> it's kind of funny i've gotten diskless working easier than i have been able to find deletion :)
[23:26] <dewman> Seeker`, rhpot1991 might be able to help with mythnetvision.
[23:26] <dewman> castlec, heh
[23:29] <rhpot1991> dewman: never used it
[23:30] <Seeker`> dewman: Flash is really terrible with it for some reason :/ worse than when using firefox, and thats pretty bad
[23:59] <dewman> Seeker`, flash is just terrible period....
[23:59] <dewman> I hate it.