[00:17] <highvoltage> Pendulum: so, as I explained it in the newsletter so far, Issue 215 will contain 2 weeks worth of news, and then later in the week we'll release a supplemental that won't contain the usual stats and meeting times with just the stories and news items to bring us back up to date
[00:17] <highvoltage> does that sound reasonable?
[00:34] <Pendulum> highvoltage: looks good. are you in the wiki?
[00:40] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I was
[00:40] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I've been in and out adding links, almost ready to start on summaries, but I'll be taking a few minutes break now.
[00:41] <highvoltage> Pendulum: if you're not feeling too well, I should be able to finish it up by myself, although it will just take a bit longer since I'll have to figure more out
[00:41] <highvoltage> Pendulum: do you perhaps know where the stats and package updates come from?
[00:41] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I'm going to stick something in from Jono's blog about Unity shipping in 11.04
[00:42] <Pendulum> highvoltage: no, I don't. but if he comes back I think nhandler knows
[00:42] <Pendulum> and I think we can pull the thing about UDS-N Call for Participation ;-)
[00:43]  * highvoltage discovers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Contacts
[00:43] <highvoltage> cjohnston: could you perhaps update the stats to include the additional week's worth of stats?
[00:44] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I think the stats may not be possible because I don't know if they're stored for past weeks
[00:44] <highvoltage> Pendulum: ah
[00:44] <highvoltage> security updates should be possible though
[00:53] <Pendulum> highvoltage: eep. I think we may have just cross-edited
[00:53] <Pendulum> because I went to preview and it said someone else had saved while I was editing
[00:53] <highvoltage> Pendulum: eek, sorry, it didn't warn me so I thought you were out
[00:54] <Pendulum> highvoltage: what did you change? can you stick it in the etherpad and I'll make sure it goes in?
[00:54] <Pendulum> or PM me here or something?
[00:54] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I can just re-add, feel free to save
[00:54] <highvoltage> I just replace the OMG unity entry eith the OMG banshee entry, since that jono post covers unity already
[00:56] <Pendulum> ah, cool
[00:56] <Pendulum> I've also moved OMG's thing about Mark's Q&A to ITB because it wasn't really a GCN thing
[00:57] <Pendulum> okay, I'm saving. I think we've got GCN done now and now it's just doing summaries
[00:58] <Pendulum> once you've got the links fixed, why don't we split up the summaries and we can each knock some out
[01:03] <highvoltage> Pendulum: sounds good!
[01:08] <Pendulum> highvoltage: let me know which ones you want to take. I'll probably be able to be around for another hour
[01:10] <highvoltage> Pendulum: ok, I'm fine with you picking what you want, and then I'll just pick up from that, I'll be around for another 3 hours or so
[01:14] <Pendulum> k
[01:15] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I'll grab ITB and whatever else I can get done in the hour from the links already in there
[01:16] <highvoltage> Pendulum: sounds good
[01:16] <highvoltage> Pendulum: seems like we got all the important news covered for the period, at least
[01:17] <Pendulum> there aren't that many things needing summaries, actually, so shouldn't be bad
[01:35] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I'm dropping in ITB now
[01:37] <highvoltage> cool.
[01:39] <Pendulum> highvoltage: if you can get the loco & launchpad news summaries done, then I think we're done
[01:39] <Pendulum> ?
[01:41] <highvoltage> Pendulum: ok, will do.
[01:42] <highvoltage> we'll review tomorrow before publishing?
[01:42] <Pendulum> yes. definitely :)
[01:42] <highvoltage> great, nhandler and some others will probably also be around who can make sure everything is ok
[02:00] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I'm going to give my eyes a few minutes break from my computer screen, so I guess you'll be gone by the time I'm back
[02:00] <highvoltage> goodnight!
[02:00] <Pendulum> highvoltage: good night!
[02:32] <nhandler> highvoltage: Yeah, feel free to poke me for stuff to get reviewed.
[02:46] <highvoltage> nhandler: could I get ubuntu-news.org access? or is it too soon?
[02:49] <nhandler> highvoltage: See my PM. Feel free to ask questions if you aren't sure how certain things work on the new fridge. I'm still working on drafting up documentation for a lot of things
[02:55] <highvoltage> nhandler: will do, thanks!
[03:50]  * highvoltage calls it a night
[03:50] <highvoltage> goodnight everyone!
[04:07] <nhandler> Night highvoltage
[09:04] <alourie> good day
[12:26] <highvoltage> good day alourie
[12:30] <nigelb> morning highvoltage
[12:32] <highvoltage> heya nigelb
[13:22] <akgraner> hey all
[13:22] <akgraner> highvoltage, thank you for taking the reins and running with issues 215 and 216
[13:23] <akgraner> highvoltage, I have some houses to look at this morning but if you ping me I'll publish it when you say it is ready
[13:24] <akgraner> nigelb, hey!
[13:26] <nigelb> akgraner: hey
[13:26] <nigelb> akgraner: I'm stuck without a laptop :(
[13:27] <akgraner> no worries just wanted to say hi
[13:28] <akgraner> and if you could just touch base with highvoltage and y'all just ping me and I'll publish to all the places it needs to go with an editors note of thanks to everyone
[13:28] <akgraner> I <3 the news team!!!
[13:30] <akgraner> I can't say thanks enough to everyone and as soon as I get a place to live should be back on schedule ... we can start training after Wednesday for an hour a day til everyone knows and feels comfortable with the publishing process
[13:30] <akgraner> cody-somerville, hey!!!
[13:30] <cody-somerville> akgraner, Hello! :)
[13:30] <akgraner> cody-somerville, I am still laughing and smiling about you and that darn cowbell
[13:31] <akgraner> :-)
[13:31]  * cody-somerville grins.
[13:31] <cody-somerville> Amanda was quite the instigator that evening.
[13:32] <akgraner> that she was
[13:33] <akgraner> I can't tell you how many times I have needed to smile throughout the days since returning from UDS and you are one of those people who bring those smiles - just wanted to say thanks!  and also ask for a favor
[13:37] <akgraner> cody-somerville, you are still a moderator to the mailing lists I might need you to ok the newsletters if I am not going to be online - can I ping you if necessary
[13:38] <highvoltage> akgraner: still around?
[13:38] <akgraner> yep
[13:38] <akgraner> highvoltage, thank you!!!!!
[13:38] <akgraner> highvoltage, thank you!!!!!
[13:38] <highvoltage> akgraner: pleasure :)
[13:39] <akgraner> highvoltage, if it is easier I was going to suggested
[13:39] <highvoltage> akgraner: I've already made the article draft on ubuntu-news.org, when it's ready I'll give you a ping for review, etc. but there shouldn't be much left to do
[13:39] <akgraner> just do Issues 217 which would be the right issue for this week
[13:39] <akgraner> combine all the good stuff from the last 3 weeks
[13:40] <akgraner> and I can just note that 215 and 216 weren't published
[13:40] <akgraner> and that will put everything back on track
[13:41] <akgraner> but you have the reins and I am so thankful you are doing that
[13:41] <akgraner> highvoltage, is the article just to let people know what is going on?
[13:41] <highvoltage> akgraner: I guess that could work, it would probably delay us a bit, but at least we'll be 100% up to date today then. if pendulum is ok with that then I'd be too.
[13:42] <highvoltage> akgraner: nope, this: http://ubuntu-news.org/?p=2941&preview=true
[13:42] <akgraner> ok you all decide and I'll help you all this afternoon any way I can to get it all out
[13:44] <akgraner> ahh cook
[13:44] <akgraner> cool
[13:45] <akgraner> highvoltage, awesome
[13:45] <akgraner> remember to take out the work in prgress before you tell people to go there :-)
[13:45] <highvoltage> akgraner: heh, yes!
[13:46] <akgraner> also do are you familiar with how it needs to go to the mailing list I can go over that right quick with you if you need me too
[13:46] <akgraner> or if you tell me you sent that notification out I can just whip it up right quick for you and show everyone later today?
[13:46] <highvoltage> akgraner: ok, I didn't think that it needs more than a bit of slight format changes and sending it off, but if there's anything special, please tell me!
[13:47] <akgraner> so you have to take out all the ## comments
[13:47] <akgraner> copy the raw text into a text editor
[13:47] <akgraner> and the find and replace all the `` marks
[13:47] <akgraner> take out the images
[13:48] <highvoltage> ok, great. I have that filed in my head under 'reformatting' :)
[13:48] <akgraner> :-)
[13:48] <akgraner> Except where otherwise noted, content on this site is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License
[13:48] <akgraner> this line will need to be change to
[13:49] <akgraner> Except where otherwise noted, content in this issue is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License
[13:49] <akgraner> basically change on this site to in this issue
[13:49] <highvoltage> noted
[13:49] <highvoltage> I probably would've missed that part
[13:49] <akgraner> then copy all that to the email to ubuntu-news
[13:50] <akgraner> that is the only place the whole newsletter is sent
[13:50] <highvoltage> akgraner: could you white-list me to that list? I see you're an admin
[13:50] <akgraner> everything is held in moderation
[13:50] <akgraner> regardless of who sends it
[13:50] <akgraner> because it will be to big
[13:50] <highvoltage> akgraner: so it gets posted to the wiki, sent in whole (minus comments and stuff) to the ubuntu-news list, and gets announced on the ubuntu-news site. Is there anywhere else it needs to go?
[13:51] <akgraner> yep
[13:51] <akgraner> forums but there is a script
[13:51] <akgraner> look at the checklist wiki
[13:51] <highvoltage> ok
[13:51] <akgraner> one sec and I'll get you the link
[13:51] <akgraner> everything should be listed there with a how to
[13:51] <akgraner> :-)
[13:52] <akgraner> I was just trying to help as I feel guilty for not being much help the last few weeks
[13:52] <akgraner>  but you all have it and anything not done can be done later - you all rock and are doing awesome
[13:52] <akgraner> I should just be quiet :-)
[13:52] <highvoltage> you have nothing to feel guilty about! no one's holding anything against you
[13:53] <akgraner> thanks!
[13:53] <akgraner> highvoltage, tell ya what let me run to my appointment go ahead an publish it to the wiki and to the ubuntu-news
[13:53] <highvoltage> it would be nice to have some back-up plans for when our editor needs to be away for a while (hopefully next time for better reasons, holidays etc :)) so that we have a bit more contingency
[13:54] <akgraner> and when I get back I'll walk you through the rest of it :-) and admin you once you know all the steps :-)
[13:54] <akgraner> highvoltage, yep which is why I wanted to start training everyone
[13:54] <akgraner> totally agree which is why I made the check list and stuff
[13:54] <highvoltage> akgraner: ok, I guess we'll combine it to 217 though. there's just some stats and stuff that will also need updating, etc.
[13:54] <akgraner> I'll email Liraz and he'll get them to you
[13:54] <akgraner> he has them ready
[13:55] <highvoltage> akgraner: but I think we'll be ok, take the day easy and don't worry about it, we'll take care of it and everything should be ok when you're back!
[13:55] <highvoltage> akgraner: awesome, thanks!
[13:55] <akgraner> will you be around in a couple hours
[13:55] <akgraner> I should be back online them
[13:55] <akgraner> :-)
[13:55] <akgraner> THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!!
[13:56] <akgraner> you all rock - bbiab!  ROCK ON Y'ALL :-)  did I mention I <3 the news team
[13:56] <highvoltage> akgraner: yep, I have a meeting starting in around 5 minutes, but I'll be around most of the day
[13:57] <akgraner> awesome!  let anyone else on the team know I'll go over the publishing steps this afternoon incase they want to sit in and let me get you that link rigth quick
[13:58] <akgraner> highvoltage, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies and each step should have a link to the howto
[13:58] <akgraner> and if it doesn't make sense please let me know so we can update it all
[13:58] <highvoltage> akgraner: ok, will do. I have to be off now but talk again later!
[13:59] <akgraner> laters
[14:34] <highvoltage> where for art though Pendulum!
[15:20] <highvoltage> Pendulum!
[15:23] <Pendulum> highvoltage: yes?
[15:25] <highvoltage> good morning!
[15:26] <Pendulum> heh. it's already been a long morning in my world :)
[15:26] <highvoltage> Pendulum: akgraner suggested that we add the last week too and make it Issue 217, skipping 215 and 216
[15:26] <Pendulum> not sure about good
[15:26] <Pendulum> okay
[15:26] <Pendulum> ooh. you heard from akgraner ?
[15:26] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I wanted to talk to you about it first but got a little impatient and went ahead and did it, hope that's ok
[15:26] <Pendulum> sounds good to me :)
[15:27] <Pendulum> is there anything you need me to do other than proofread?
[15:27] <highvoltage> Pendulum: yep, she sounds in good spirit and is house-hunting today, she'll pop in a bit later, we should be ok releaseing today
[15:27] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I think I have most of it in there, just adding two podcasts from the last week
[15:28] <highvoltage> Pendulum: would be nice if you could check if I missed some important content, I'll give it a round of polishing next, it would be great if you could proof-read after that
[15:29] <highvoltage> Pendulum: if we both think it's fine, then it should probably be little work for akgraner to give it a final read-over if she's around. otherwise nhandler could also help us there
[15:29] <Pendulum> :)
[16:04] <highvoltage> Pendulum: do you happen to know where I can get hold of Liraz or the stats?
[16:08] <Pendulum> no idea unless cjohnston knows
[16:11] <highvoltage> we basically just have the stats and meetings parts left
[16:11] <highvoltage> anyone able to look at the meetings part?
[16:15] <Pendulum> which meetings are we putting in?
[16:15] <highvoltage> it's under this section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue217#Upcoming Meetings and Events
[16:16] <highvoltage> it's basically meetings that are registered on the fridge google calendar
[16:16] <Pendulum> right
[16:17] <highvoltage> ah and there's a section above it with meeting notes that will also need some expantion into the last 2 weeks
[16:17] <Pendulum> I can do the meetings this week if you can add the new meeting notes from the meetings that have already happened?
[16:17] <highvoltage> ok, sounds good
[16:18] <Pendulum> it good news, I doubt there was anything really during UDS
[16:18] <highvoltage> yeah :)
[16:18] <highvoltage> could you perhaps also check that I added the right parts to the right sections?
[16:18] <Pendulum> I will once I've got this bit done
[16:18] <highvoltage> thanks, I'm bad with that :)
[16:23]  * highvoltage goes in and out of the wiki quickly
[16:27] <highvoltage> ah, I missed the section on Ask Ubuntu Top 5
[16:28] <highvoltage> Pendulum: I'll just be in and out again
[16:32] <Pendulum> highvoltage: no worries. i'm going to dump my stuff into a text doc before sticking it into the wiki anyway
[16:44] <highvoltage> ok, I'm going to lunch in a few minutes, hopefully we can get the stats from Liraz after that
[16:47] <Pendulum> k
[16:47] <Pendulum> i'll try to get the meetings in before you're back from lunch
[16:48] <Pendulum> (i'm just checking that I have them formatted correctly now)
[16:59] <cjohnston> Pendulum: highvoltage  Bug/Translations are updated
[17:44] <highvoltage> cjohnston: yay!
[17:44] <cjohnston> :-)
[17:45] <Pendulum> i'm finishing up formatting on the stuff from the calendar
[17:45] <highvoltage> cjohnston: do you know who usually does the security updates section or whether it's current?
[17:45] <cjohnston> liraz
[17:47] <highvoltage> cjohnston, Pendulum, nhandler, nigelb: there's probably some rough edges still, but if any of you can give some proof-reading/feedback so long that would be great!
[17:49] <cjohnston> highvoltage: here are the scripts for security.. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~uwn/uwn/scripts/files/head:/security-and-updates/
[17:49] <cjohnston> dont know if they are working.... they broke when the website changed.. dont know if they are fixed
[17:51]  * cjohnston is out.. bbl
[17:53] <Pendulum> highvoltage: are you in the wiki?
[17:53] <Pendulum> I want to dump the meetings in
[17:53] <highvoltage> Pendulum: nope
[17:54] <highvoltage> cjohnston: seems like it's working- thanks!
[17:57] <highvoltage> cjohnston: or maybe not, seems like they only go up to June :/
[18:00] <Pendulum> okay, as soon as it's done saving, the upcoming meetings are in
[18:01] <Pendulum> okay, done saving. i'm out of the wiki
[18:03] <highvoltage> yay, it's coming together!
[18:03] <highvoltage> now just to make sure everything is where it needs to be :)
[18:21] <highvoltage> anyone up for proofreading?
[18:47] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I can proofread now
[18:48] <highvoltage> yay
[18:48] <highvoltage> feel free to chop and change liberally :)
[18:54] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I just fixed the one thing I saw
[18:54] <Pendulum> we are still missing meeting reports from last week. did they just not exist?
[18:55] <highvoltage> Pendulum: yep, I checked on the wiki and there were some, but they didn't file any notes
[19:38] <highvoltage> Pendulum: finished proofreading?
[19:42] <Pendulum> yes
[19:46] <highvoltage> the howto says that 2 people have to proofread
[19:46] <highvoltage> nhandler: are you available for proofreading?
[19:47] <highvoltage> cjohnston, cody-somerville, johnc4510, mdke, evilnhandler, pleia2, sladen: or any of you :)
[19:47] <pleia2> busy at work, sorry :(
[19:47]  * cody-somerville is in DMB meeting.
[19:48]  * highvoltage starts the conversion for the mail format one so long then
[19:52]  * sladen looks around
[19:52] <highvoltage> sladen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue217
[19:53] <sladen> highvoltage: just proof it?
[19:53] <highvoltage> sladen: yep
[20:01] <highvoltage> sladen: oops, I saw the warning that you're editing too late, you can overwrite my version if it prompts you
[20:06] <sladen> highvoltage: okay, shall I save it and re-open it?
[20:06] <sladen> what are  RFEs ?
[20:08] <highvoltage> sladen: nafc.
[20:08] <highvoltage> sladen: yes, I think it's a good idea to save so long
[20:11] <sladen> spreadubuntu.com or spreadubuntu.org ?
[20:12]  * highvoltage asks in -marketing for the canonical name
[20:29] <highvoltage> sladen: ok, so it should be spreadubuntu.com according to the wiki page
[20:34] <sladen> highvoltage: ...which redirects to the .org (meh)
[20:34] <highvoltage> heh
[20:34] <highvoltage> sladen: I guess they don't care too much about it then
[20:34] <sladen> highvoltage: okay, I'm done:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue217?action=diff&rev2=46&rev1=42
[20:35] <highvoltage> sladen: thanks a lot!
[20:38]  * highvoltage removes extra wiki formatting for mail edition
[20:42] <highvoltage> cody-somerville: hey, are you there?
[20:42] <cody-somerville> highvoltage, Yup.
[20:43] <highvoltage> cody-somerville: I sent it to the ubuntu-news list, you're marked as a list admin, could you look at it and approve?
[20:44] <cody-somerville> Sure.
[20:44] <highvoltage> thanks
[20:44] <cody-somerville> highvoltage, Says there is no pending requests.
[20:45] <highvoltage> "The message that you have sent to the ubuntu-news mailing list has
[20:45] <highvoltage> been rejected."
[20:45] <highvoltage> it went straight to reject :-(
[20:46] <cody-somerville> highvoltage, what e-mail did you send it from?
[20:46] <highvoltage> cody-somerville: jonathan@ubuntu.com
[20:50] <cody-somerville> it appears that ubuntu-news is setup to reject messages from moderated members.
[20:50] <cody-somerville> (which is everyone)
[20:52] <highvoltage> cody-somerville: heh. let me know when I should re-send :)
[20:53] <cody-somerville> highvoltage, please retry sending now
[20:54] <highvoltage> cody-somerville: sent
[20:54] <cody-somerville> highvoltage, accepted
[20:54] <highvoltage> cody-somerville: yay, thanks!
[20:57] <highvoltage> So...
[20:57] <highvoltage> Ubuntu Weekly News #217 is released! http://ubuntu-news.org/2010/11/08/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-217/
[20:58] <highvoltage> Thanks to everybody who made it happen, I think Amber will be pleased!
[20:58] <Pendulum> \o/
[21:09] <pleia2> good job everyone :)
[21:18] <sladen> highvoltage: for future reference, windows-1252 email encoding != UTF-8 :)
[21:20] <sladen> highvoltage: but I don't want to detract from your achievement
[21:23] <highvoltage> sladen: windows-1252!?!?!?!!?
[21:24] <highvoltage> if it wasn't against the CoC I'd kick Thunderbird in the face right now!
[21:25] <sladen> Thunderbirds Are No Go!
[21:25] <highvoltage> weird, I don't even have that set anywhere
[21:26] <sladen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
[21:26] <sladen> highvoltage: default attachment type? ---if it's the case, it's something we might want to fix distribution-wide
[21:28] <highvoltage> sladen: where do you see that?
[21:28] <sladen> highvoltage: in the email headers
[21:30] <highvoltage> hmm, the only way to set it to utf-8 by default seems to be by deleting all other encodings from the encodings menu
[21:31] <highvoltage> sladen: I'll try with a clean thunderbird later and check whether it's a common problem
[22:17] <highvoltage> #218 is ready for editing, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue218, etherpad: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UWN
[22:17] <highvoltage> rest at the usual places :)
[22:29] <nhandler> highvoltage: Thanks for taking care of that (even though I think it was published a bit early)
[22:29] <nhandler> cody-somerville: Did you change the settings on the ML?
[22:29] <highvoltage> nhandler: early time-wise or early prematurely?
[22:30] <nhandler> highvoltage: Time-wise
[22:30] <highvoltage> nhandler: ok, I didn't realise there was a specific time, I should've actually checked when previous issues were released
[22:31] <Pendulum> highvoltage: I think it was about the time it normally comes out
[22:31] <Pendulum> highvoltage: the plan is to theoretically try to get it out by 3PM EST
[22:32] <Pendulum> and you got it out just beofre 4PM EST
[22:32] <Pendulum> so pretty much right on time :)
[22:32] <nhandler> Pendulum: I thought it was later than that (or at least it usually ended up later)
[22:32] <Pendulum> it's just that it's usually out late
[22:32] <nhandler> :)
[22:33] <sladen> does 15h/16h EST correspond to some easy to remember UTC time?
[22:33] <Pendulum> 20h UTC
[22:33] <nhandler> sladen: It is UTC-5 now (just changed the other day)
[22:33] <Pendulum> not sure if there's a specific reason for that
[22:34] <sladen> but it's nothing magic such as "by midnight UTC"
[22:34] <Pendulum> nope. not as far as I know
[23:10] <cjohnston> congrats highvoltage
[23:31] <cody-somerville> nhandler, Yea.
[23:34] <nhandler> cody-somerville: Mind reverting them? The restrictive nature was intentional. I'd like to at least run it by akgraner before opening it up a bit more
[23:34] <cody-somerville> nhandler, Its still just as restrictive. The setup as it was would prevent anyone from submitting the UWN except akgraner.
[23:35] <nhandler> cody-somerville: Did you just whitelist highvoltage ?
[23:35] <cody-somerville> nhandler, No. I changed the setting so that members who are moderated have their messages held instead of rejected.
[23:37] <nhandler> cody-somerville: We went with rejected because only UWN should be getting sent to the list (and at the time, amber was the only one sending it out). We also had it set so a nice explanation got sent when a message was rejected explaining how they probably didn't want to send to that list.
[23:37] <nhandler> What we should probably do is add a few more people to the list of people who can send out UWN
[23:38] <cody-somerville> This is the message that gets sent: The message that you have sent to the ubuntu-news mailing list has been rejected. If you feel that this is a mistake, feel free to contact the mailing list administrators (listed on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news) or inquire in #ubuntu-news on irc.freenode.net or on the ubuntu-news-team mailing list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team)
[23:53] <nhandler> Yep