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Chloricevening guys01:16
itnet7Hey there Chloric !01:38
Chlorichows it going?01:41
Chlorici was just reading and nVidia isnt going to support wayland01:41
itnet7Wow? Gotta link directly from Nvidia??? or are you going by hearsay?01:44
Chloricdirect01:44
itnet7I was thinking that you would share the link ;-P01:45
Chlorici will01:45
itnet7ah01:45
Chloriclet me get it01:45
Chlorichttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=99209e23a1013723450a623f49d4c1dd&p=2343452&postcount=1101:46
Chloricsorry, i was browsing my history01:46
itnet7cool01:47
Chloricthat kinda sucks since shutterworth wants to move to Wayland for 11.10 i believe01:48
itnet7it's still only a forum post01:48
itnet7and one employee responding01:48
itnet7Shuttleworth01:48
Chlorictrue, but its an nVidia rep01:48
Chloricin response to shutterworth01:48
itnet7He still can't speak for all of Nvidia, and probably doesn't know of any discussions taking place between Canonical and Nvidia that are bound by NDA's01:49
Chloricoh, thats true01:49
itnet7I wouldn't worry too much until wayland is here01:49
itnet7and your card doesn't work any longer01:50
Chloricanything but x.org01:50
itnet7I personally will stop buying nvidia cards if that happens, as well as recommending them to everyone that will listen01:50
Chloricand yeah, so far the cards are working well01:50
Chloricplus, thats over a year from now, right?01:50
itnet7yes, I am sure it will be at least that long before we begin seeing it01:51
itnet7except in daily builds or other specific images01:52
itnet7http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/55101:52
Chlorici dont think there will be daily builds until after 11.0401:52
Chloricawesome01:53
Chloricwhen will the broadcom drivers going open source?01:54
itnet7some of them are: http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/01:56
itnet7they are not going to release the drivers for Older Cards, just the three mentioned there and the cards in the future, AFAIK01:57
Chlorichave those drivers become better then the non-open drivers?02:13
itnet7Not sure, I would I would think that they would be, but haven't really been following any of the testing, etc.02:15
Chloricah, thats cool. i guess i should try them one day02:15
Chloricim looking for the channel log02:16
Chloricjust realized, since they're open source, they could be included in the disrto ISO, could it not?02:28
Chloricso they're installed during a clean install02:29
mhall119Chloric: once they're available and stable, I'd imagine they will be in most every distro02:32
mhall119in fact, they'll probably be in the mainline kernel02:32
Chloricthats awesome02:32
Chloricout of the box driver support for wireless devices is something that is needed02:33
mhall119it's been working great for me for the past several releases03:10
tiemonsterzoopster: ping14:35
zoopsteryo14:35
zoopsterwassup tiemonster14:36
tiemonsterhave you heard anything about including MariaDB in the Ubuntu repos?14:36
tiemonsterAfter the stunt that Oracle just pulled, it's becoming clear that a replacement for MySQL needs to be found soon14:36
zoopsterso they tried really hard for the maverick cycle and it failed to build miserably14:37
tiemonsterI was worried about that14:38
zoopsterthere were feature freeze exceptions all the way up to the first beta and then we gave up14:38
tiemonsterthey're hosting on Launchpad now, right?14:38
tiemonsterI imagine they're in the works with automated testing like they have for MySQL14:38
zoopsteri think so...there are ppa's, but there is a requirement to build from source14:38
zoopsterspamaps in the #ubuntu-server channel is close to it14:39
zoopsterhave you looked at drizzle?14:39
zoopsterand postgres is still strong14:39
tiemonsteranother alternative, I assume?14:39
zoopsteryea...that was the original fork when sun bought mysql I believe14:40
tiemonsterinvestigating PostgreSQL, but MariaDB is supposed to be a "drop-in replacement for MySQL"14:40
zoopstertrue...postgres is more of a replacement for oracle14:40
tiemonsterMariaDB would be less work to migrate14:40
zoopsterexpect it "in" the distribution for natty...but the ppa's work just as well14:41
tiemonstercool. thanks.14:44
tiemonsterzoopster: it will be interesting to see what Ubuntu includes in that lamp-server^ metapackage in the future14:45
zoopstertrue...for natty things are not changing AFAIK...we'll see what happens14:45
tiemonsteryep14:45
tiemonsterzoopster: do you know if the Ubuntu repos have any good graphical clients for PostgreSQL?14:47
zoopsterI'm sure there are but I don't know of them...I'd look at what enterprise db offers...I think they have a foss version14:47
tiemonsterthanks14:48
mhall119tiemonster: pgadmin is the only GUI tool I know of for postres15:18
reya276Morning everyone16:02
dorganwill using ionice & nice   cause the load average on a box to rise?17:02
mhall119it shouldn't that's just priority 17:10
mhall119woohoo, finally got my new work computer17:16
chaynie_workHola Ninjas.20:14
* chaynie_work has a weird server question20:14
MichelleQ1I'm sure someone has a weird server answer20:15
chaynie_workI have a hard drive that shows up in the bios as a single drive, but shows up to windows/linux as two physical devices.20:15
chaynie_workhow do I tell it to stop being stupid and act like a normal, useful harddrive?20:16
maxolasersquadchaynie_work: And it is not one hard drive with two partitions?20:16
maxolasersquadOr, is it an external drive plugged?20:17
chaynie_workmaxolasersquad: i think it is, internally. but it's somehow being presented to the system as both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb20:17
maxolasersquadMany external drives, especially 1TB drives, are two physical hard drives.  Perhaps that's what you are running into?20:18
maxolasersquadThough, IME, they still show up in BIOS and in /dev as one drive.20:20
chaynie_workit's a western digital, and it's showing up as some 6gb rom drive.20:20
mhall119ROM?20:23
chaynie_workmhall119: rom.20:52
mhall119that's a lot of rom20:54
govatentRoAkSoAx, ping22:09
RoAkSoAxgovatent: pong22:10
govatenthey te puedo mandar un pm?22:10
RoAkSoAxgovatent: go ahead no tienes que pedirme permiso... lol22:10
govatentChloric, ping22:31
Chlorici was out with my girlfriend skating, sorry bro23:18
Chloricso whats up? whats the Cisco meeting tomorrow?23:19
Chat6761hey23:36
Chat6761hey23:38
Chlorichello23:39
Chat676128 m orlando23:41
Chloricwrong IRC channel bro23:41
Chloricthis is an Ubuntu OS IRC channel23:41
Chlorichook up IRCs are else where23:42
Chloricubuntu isnt soe kinky word23:42
Chloriclol23:43
dorganhello all23:54
dorganmhall119: ping23:54
Chlorichello there23:54
govatentlmao23:54
govatentChloric, yo23:54
Chlorichey there23:55
govatentok so about tomorrow 23:55
Chloricyes23:55
govatenti guess ill be leaving my place earlier than 7 23:55
govatentlike 6 or 63023:55
govatenti was planning on finding some place to split with my friends on parking 23:55
Chloricif its at 8:30 or so23:55
govatentwell the talks dont start till like 923:55
Chlorictraffic into downtown sucks23:55
Chloricoh then23:55
govatenti can show you the itinerary i got from cisco 23:55
Chloricperhaps 7 is good23:56
Chloricalso, have you even checked with the hotel? 23:56
Chloricmaybe they have parking there23:56
itnet7?23:56
govatentitnet7, cisco is having a neat show in miami tomorrow 23:57
Chloricmaybe the have public parking at the hotel for visitors23:57
itnet7Oh, cool!23:57
govatenti am not worried about the pricing of parking as i can split it with 3 people or likely my friend will just pay it for me to be kind for the ride23:57
govatenthttp://www.cisco.com/web/offers/solutions/techdays/2010.html?keycode=197585_3923:57
Chloricjust tell them youre with the cisco event23:57
govatenti know we are effy with our relationship with cisco but still cool to attend and its free23:58
itnet7effy?23:58
RoAkSoAxbut cisco is the best for networking equipment23:58
RoAkSoAxthere's no question about that23:58
govatentproprietary world23:58
itnet7cisco runs a modified version of linux for their ios23:58
govatentto some extend i guess23:58
RoAkSoAxfor me it is either work in linux, or work as a cisco integrator :)23:58
RoAkSoAxitnet7: it is indeed linux23:59
govatentok then sweet!23:59
RoAkSoAxbut i mean from the networking point of view23:59
itnet7Oh, my I think my notifications are working again23:59
RoAkSoAxit is the best of the best23:59
itnet7dm me please?23:59
RoAkSoAxitnet7: really?23:59
itnet7Yes23:59
RoAkSoAxitnet7:  tes tes test test test 23:59
itnet7weird23:59
itnet7it23:59
RoAkSoAxitnet 23:59
RoAkSoAxitnet7: 23:59
itnet7is definitely working23:59
RoAkSoAxitnet7: 23:59
itnet7oh, and their stacking23:59

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