[01:16] <Chloric> evening guys
[01:38] <itnet7> Hey there Chloric !
[01:41] <Chloric> hows it going?
[01:41] <Chloric> i was just reading and nVidia isnt going to support wayland
[01:44] <itnet7> Wow? Gotta link directly from Nvidia??? or are you going by hearsay?
[01:44] <Chloric> direct
[01:45] <itnet7> I was thinking that you would share the link ;-P
[01:45] <Chloric> i will
[01:45] <itnet7> ah
[01:45] <Chloric> let me get it
[01:46] <Chloric> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=99209e23a1013723450a623f49d4c1dd&p=2343452&postcount=11
[01:46] <Chloric> sorry, i was browsing my history
[01:47] <itnet7> cool
[01:48] <Chloric> that kinda sucks since shutterworth wants to move to Wayland for 11.10 i believe
[01:48] <itnet7> it's still only a forum post
[01:48] <itnet7> and one employee responding
[01:48] <itnet7> Shuttleworth
[01:48] <Chloric> true, but its an nVidia rep
[01:48] <Chloric> in response to shutterworth
[01:49] <itnet7> He still can't speak for all of Nvidia, and probably doesn't know of any discussions taking place between Canonical and Nvidia that are bound by NDA's
[01:49] <Chloric> oh, thats true
[01:49] <itnet7> I wouldn't worry too much until wayland is here
[01:50] <itnet7> and your card doesn't work any longer
[01:50] <Chloric> anything but x.org
[01:50] <itnet7> I personally will stop buying nvidia cards if that happens, as well as recommending them to everyone that will listen
[01:50] <Chloric> and yeah, so far the cards are working well
[01:50] <Chloric> plus, thats over a year from now, right?
[01:51] <itnet7> yes, I am sure it will be at least that long before we begin seeing it
[01:52] <itnet7> except in daily builds or other specific images
[01:52] <itnet7> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
[01:52] <Chloric> i dont think there will be daily builds until after 11.04
[01:53] <Chloric> awesome
[01:54] <Chloric> when will the broadcom drivers going open source?
[01:56] <itnet7> some of them are: http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/
[01:57] <itnet7> they are not going to release the drivers for Older Cards, just the three mentioned there and the cards in the future, AFAIK
[02:13] <Chloric> have those drivers become better then the non-open drivers?
[02:15] <itnet7> Not sure, I would I would think that they would be, but haven't really been following any of the testing, etc.
[02:15] <Chloric> ah, thats cool. i guess i should try them one day
[02:16] <Chloric> im looking for the channel log
[02:28] <Chloric> just realized, since they're open source, they could be included in the disrto ISO, could it not?
[02:29] <Chloric> so they're installed during a clean install
[02:32] <mhall119> Chloric: once they're available and stable, I'd imagine they will be in most every distro
[02:32] <mhall119> in fact, they'll probably be in the mainline kernel
[02:32] <Chloric> thats awesome
[02:33] <Chloric> out of the box driver support for wireless devices is something that is needed
[03:10] <mhall119> it's been working great for me for the past several releases
[14:35] <tiemonster> zoopster: ping
[14:35] <zoopster> yo
[14:36] <zoopster> wassup tiemonster
[14:36] <tiemonster> have you heard anything about including MariaDB in the Ubuntu repos?
[14:36] <tiemonster> After the stunt that Oracle just pulled, it's becoming clear that a replacement for MySQL needs to be found soon
[14:37] <zoopster> so they tried really hard for the maverick cycle and it failed to build miserably
[14:38] <tiemonster> I was worried about that
[14:38] <zoopster> there were feature freeze exceptions all the way up to the first beta and then we gave up
[14:38] <tiemonster> they're hosting on Launchpad now, right?
[14:38] <tiemonster> I imagine they're in the works with automated testing like they have for MySQL
[14:38] <zoopster> i think so...there are ppa's, but there is a requirement to build from source
[14:39] <zoopster> spamaps in the #ubuntu-server channel is close to it
[14:39] <zoopster> have you looked at drizzle?
[14:39] <zoopster> and postgres is still strong
[14:39] <tiemonster> another alternative, I assume?
[14:40] <zoopster> yea...that was the original fork when sun bought mysql I believe
[14:40] <tiemonster> investigating PostgreSQL, but MariaDB is supposed to be a "drop-in replacement for MySQL"
[14:40] <zoopster> true...postgres is more of a replacement for oracle
[14:40] <tiemonster> MariaDB would be less work to migrate
[14:41] <zoopster> expect it "in" the distribution for natty...but the ppa's work just as well
[14:44] <tiemonster> cool. thanks.
[14:45] <tiemonster> zoopster: it will be interesting to see what Ubuntu includes in that lamp-server^ metapackage in the future
[14:45] <zoopster> true...for natty things are not changing AFAIK...we'll see what happens
[14:45] <tiemonster> yep
[14:47] <tiemonster> zoopster: do you know if the Ubuntu repos have any good graphical clients for PostgreSQL?
[14:47] <zoopster> I'm sure there are but I don't know of them...I'd look at what enterprise db offers...I think they have a foss version
[14:48] <tiemonster> thanks
[15:18] <mhall119> tiemonster: pgadmin is the only GUI tool I know of for postres
[16:02] <reya276> Morning everyone
[17:02] <dorgan> will using ionice & nice   cause the load average on a box to rise?
[17:10] <mhall119> it shouldn't that's just priority 
[17:16] <mhall119> woohoo, finally got my new work computer
[20:14] <chaynie_work> Hola Ninjas.
[20:14]  * chaynie_work has a weird server question
[20:15] <MichelleQ1> I'm sure someone has a weird server answer
[20:15] <chaynie_work> I have a hard drive that shows up in the bios as a single drive, but shows up to windows/linux as two physical devices.
[20:16] <chaynie_work> how do I tell it to stop being stupid and act like a normal, useful harddrive?
[20:16] <maxolasersquad> chaynie_work: And it is not one hard drive with two partitions?
[20:17] <maxolasersquad> Or, is it an external drive plugged?
[20:17] <chaynie_work> maxolasersquad: i think it is, internally. but it's somehow being presented to the system as both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[20:18] <maxolasersquad> Many external drives, especially 1TB drives, are two physical hard drives.  Perhaps that's what you are running into?
[20:20] <maxolasersquad> Though, IME, they still show up in BIOS and in /dev as one drive.
[20:20] <chaynie_work> it's a western digital, and it's showing up as some 6gb rom drive.
[20:23] <mhall119> ROM?
[20:52] <chaynie_work> mhall119: rom.
[20:54] <mhall119> that's a lot of rom
[22:09] <govatent> RoAkSoAx, ping
[22:10] <RoAkSoAx> govatent: pong
[22:10] <govatent> hey te puedo mandar un pm?
[22:10] <RoAkSoAx> govatent: go ahead no tienes que pedirme permiso... lol
[22:31] <govatent> Chloric, ping
[23:18] <Chloric> i was out with my girlfriend skating, sorry bro
[23:19] <Chloric> so whats up? whats the Cisco meeting tomorrow?
[23:36] <Chat6761> hey
[23:38] <Chat6761> hey
[23:39] <Chloric> hello
[23:41] <Chat6761> 28 m orlando
[23:41] <Chloric> wrong IRC channel bro
[23:41] <Chloric> this is an Ubuntu OS IRC channel
[23:42] <Chloric> hook up IRCs are else where
[23:42] <Chloric> ubuntu isnt soe kinky word
[23:43] <Chloric> lol
[23:54] <dorgan> hello all
[23:54] <dorgan> mhall119: ping
[23:54] <Chloric> hello there
[23:54] <govatent> lmao
[23:54] <govatent> Chloric, yo
[23:55] <Chloric> hey there
[23:55] <govatent> ok so about tomorrow 
[23:55] <Chloric> yes
[23:55] <govatent> i guess ill be leaving my place earlier than 7 
[23:55] <govatent> like 6 or 630
[23:55] <govatent> i was planning on finding some place to split with my friends on parking 
[23:55] <Chloric> if its at 8:30 or so
[23:55] <govatent> well the talks dont start till like 9
[23:55] <Chloric> traffic into downtown sucks
[23:55] <Chloric> oh then
[23:55] <govatent> i can show you the itinerary i got from cisco 
[23:56] <Chloric> perhaps 7 is good
[23:56] <Chloric> also, have you even checked with the hotel? 
[23:56] <Chloric> maybe they have parking there
[23:56] <itnet7> ?
[23:57] <govatent> itnet7, cisco is having a neat show in miami tomorrow 
[23:57] <Chloric> maybe the have public parking at the hotel for visitors
[23:57] <itnet7> Oh, cool!
[23:57] <govatent> i am not worried about the pricing of parking as i can split it with 3 people or likely my friend will just pay it for me to be kind for the ride
[23:57] <govatent> http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/solutions/techdays/2010.html?keycode=197585_39
[23:57] <Chloric> just tell them youre with the cisco event
[23:58] <govatent> i know we are effy with our relationship with cisco but still cool to attend and its free
[23:58] <itnet7> effy?
[23:58] <RoAkSoAx> but cisco is the best for networking equipment
[23:58] <RoAkSoAx> there's no question about that
[23:58] <govatent> proprietary world
[23:58] <itnet7> cisco runs a modified version of linux for their ios
[23:58] <govatent> to some extend i guess
[23:58] <RoAkSoAx> for me it is either work in linux, or work as a cisco integrator :)
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: it is indeed linux
[23:59] <govatent> ok then sweet!
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> but i mean from the networking point of view
[23:59] <itnet7> Oh, my I think my notifications are working again
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> it is the best of the best
[23:59] <itnet7> dm me please?
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: really?
[23:59] <itnet7> Yes
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7:  tes tes test test test 
[23:59] <itnet7> weird
[23:59] <itnet7> it
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> itnet 
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: 
[23:59] <itnet7> is definitely working
[23:59] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: 
[23:59] <itnet7> oh, and their stacking