[01:16] evening guys [01:38] Hey there Chloric ! [01:41] hows it going? [01:41] i was just reading and nVidia isnt going to support wayland [01:44] Wow? Gotta link directly from Nvidia??? or are you going by hearsay? [01:44] direct [01:45] I was thinking that you would share the link ;-P [01:45] i will [01:45] ah [01:45] let me get it [01:46] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=99209e23a1013723450a623f49d4c1dd&p=2343452&postcount=11 [01:46] sorry, i was browsing my history [01:47] cool [01:48] that kinda sucks since shutterworth wants to move to Wayland for 11.10 i believe [01:48] it's still only a forum post [01:48] and one employee responding [01:48] Shuttleworth [01:48] true, but its an nVidia rep [01:48] in response to shutterworth [01:49] He still can't speak for all of Nvidia, and probably doesn't know of any discussions taking place between Canonical and Nvidia that are bound by NDA's [01:49] oh, thats true [01:49] I wouldn't worry too much until wayland is here [01:50] and your card doesn't work any longer [01:50] anything but x.org [01:50] I personally will stop buying nvidia cards if that happens, as well as recommending them to everyone that will listen [01:50] and yeah, so far the cards are working well [01:50] plus, thats over a year from now, right? [01:51] yes, I am sure it will be at least that long before we begin seeing it [01:52] except in daily builds or other specific images [01:52] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 [01:52] i dont think there will be daily builds until after 11.04 [01:53] awesome [01:54] when will the broadcom drivers going open source? [01:56] some of them are: http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/ [01:57] they are not going to release the drivers for Older Cards, just the three mentioned there and the cards in the future, AFAIK [02:13] have those drivers become better then the non-open drivers? [02:15] Not sure, I would I would think that they would be, but haven't really been following any of the testing, etc. [02:15] ah, thats cool. i guess i should try them one day [02:16] im looking for the channel log [02:28] just realized, since they're open source, they could be included in the disrto ISO, could it not? [02:29] so they're installed during a clean install [02:32] Chloric: once they're available and stable, I'd imagine they will be in most every distro [02:32] in fact, they'll probably be in the mainline kernel [02:32] thats awesome [02:33] out of the box driver support for wireless devices is something that is needed [03:10] it's been working great for me for the past several releases [14:35] zoopster: ping [14:35] yo [14:36] wassup tiemonster [14:36] have you heard anything about including MariaDB in the Ubuntu repos? [14:36] After the stunt that Oracle just pulled, it's becoming clear that a replacement for MySQL needs to be found soon [14:37] so they tried really hard for the maverick cycle and it failed to build miserably [14:38] I was worried about that [14:38] there were feature freeze exceptions all the way up to the first beta and then we gave up [14:38] they're hosting on Launchpad now, right? [14:38] I imagine they're in the works with automated testing like they have for MySQL [14:38] i think so...there are ppa's, but there is a requirement to build from source [14:39] spamaps in the #ubuntu-server channel is close to it [14:39] have you looked at drizzle? [14:39] and postgres is still strong [14:39] another alternative, I assume? [14:40] yea...that was the original fork when sun bought mysql I believe [14:40] investigating PostgreSQL, but MariaDB is supposed to be a "drop-in replacement for MySQL" [14:40] true...postgres is more of a replacement for oracle [14:40] MariaDB would be less work to migrate [14:41] expect it "in" the distribution for natty...but the ppa's work just as well [14:44] cool. thanks. [14:45] zoopster: it will be interesting to see what Ubuntu includes in that lamp-server^ metapackage in the future [14:45] true...for natty things are not changing AFAIK...we'll see what happens [14:45] yep [14:47] zoopster: do you know if the Ubuntu repos have any good graphical clients for PostgreSQL? [14:47] I'm sure there are but I don't know of them...I'd look at what enterprise db offers...I think they have a foss version [14:48] thanks [15:18] tiemonster: pgadmin is the only GUI tool I know of for postres [16:02] Morning everyone [17:02] will using ionice & nice cause the load average on a box to rise? [17:10] it shouldn't that's just priority [17:16] woohoo, finally got my new work computer [20:14] Hola Ninjas. [20:14] * chaynie_work has a weird server question [20:15] I'm sure someone has a weird server answer [20:15] I have a hard drive that shows up in the bios as a single drive, but shows up to windows/linux as two physical devices. [20:16] how do I tell it to stop being stupid and act like a normal, useful harddrive? [20:16] chaynie_work: And it is not one hard drive with two partitions? [20:17] Or, is it an external drive plugged? [20:17] maxolasersquad: i think it is, internally. but it's somehow being presented to the system as both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb [20:18] Many external drives, especially 1TB drives, are two physical hard drives. Perhaps that's what you are running into? [20:20] Though, IME, they still show up in BIOS and in /dev as one drive. [20:20] it's a western digital, and it's showing up as some 6gb rom drive. [20:23] ROM? [20:52] mhall119: rom. [20:54] that's a lot of rom [22:09] RoAkSoAx, ping [22:10] govatent: pong [22:10] hey te puedo mandar un pm? [22:10] govatent: go ahead no tienes que pedirme permiso... lol [22:31] Chloric, ping [23:18] i was out with my girlfriend skating, sorry bro [23:19] so whats up? whats the Cisco meeting tomorrow? [23:36] hey [23:38] hey [23:39] hello [23:41] 28 m orlando [23:41] wrong IRC channel bro [23:41] this is an Ubuntu OS IRC channel [23:42] hook up IRCs are else where [23:42] ubuntu isnt soe kinky word [23:43] lol [23:54] hello all [23:54] mhall119: ping [23:54] hello there [23:54] lmao [23:54] Chloric, yo [23:55] hey there [23:55] ok so about tomorrow [23:55] yes [23:55] i guess ill be leaving my place earlier than 7 [23:55] like 6 or 630 [23:55] i was planning on finding some place to split with my friends on parking [23:55] if its at 8:30 or so [23:55] well the talks dont start till like 9 [23:55] traffic into downtown sucks [23:55] oh then [23:55] i can show you the itinerary i got from cisco [23:56] perhaps 7 is good [23:56] also, have you even checked with the hotel? [23:56] maybe they have parking there [23:56] ? [23:57] itnet7, cisco is having a neat show in miami tomorrow [23:57] maybe the have public parking at the hotel for visitors [23:57] Oh, cool! [23:57] i am not worried about the pricing of parking as i can split it with 3 people or likely my friend will just pay it for me to be kind for the ride [23:57] http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/solutions/techdays/2010.html?keycode=197585_39 [23:57] just tell them youre with the cisco event [23:58] i know we are effy with our relationship with cisco but still cool to attend and its free [23:58] effy? [23:58] but cisco is the best for networking equipment [23:58] there's no question about that [23:58] proprietary world [23:58] cisco runs a modified version of linux for their ios [23:58] to some extend i guess [23:58] for me it is either work in linux, or work as a cisco integrator :) [23:59] itnet7: it is indeed linux [23:59] ok then sweet! [23:59] but i mean from the networking point of view [23:59] Oh, my I think my notifications are working again [23:59] it is the best of the best [23:59] dm me please? [23:59] itnet7: really? [23:59] Yes [23:59] itnet7: tes tes test test test [23:59] weird [23:59] it [23:59] itnet [23:59] itnet7: [23:59] is definitely working [23:59] itnet7: [23:59] oh, and their stacking