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douglasawh-workanybody looking for a job?  Our recruiters are bugging me about finding people21:35
nickmoeckdouglasawh-work: What kind of work?22:32
douglasawh-worknickmoeck: http://careers.epic.com/ but specifically I was asked about CaTS and SS TS roles.  I don't know if they are named that on the site though. I'm looking.22:33
nickmoeckwoah. didn't know you worked for Epic22:33
nickmoeckI'll take a look at the available positions. Thanks douglasawh-work22:34
douglasawh-workI believe this is the SS role but the internal vs. external role names are goofy sometimes: http://careers.epic.com/position-10822:34
nickmoeckYeah22:34
douglasawh-workthis is the one that would be on my team...well, depending on how you define that, but let's not get into technicalities: http://careers.epic.com/position-16122:35
nickmoeckWhere are the positions located?22:37
douglasawh-workall of these would be in Madison22:47
douglasawh-workwell, either Madison or Verona22:47
douglasawh-workSS TS is in Madison right now, but that could change22:47
douglasawh-workWe have offices in Dubai and in The Netherlands but as of right now my team isn't over there and I'd bet SS TS isn't either22:48
nickmoeckOkay, thanks. Might apply for a spot. even though I dont have a BS22:48
douglasawh-workdo you have a BA?22:49
douglasawh-workif you don't have a bachelors, I wouldn't waste your time22:49
douglasawh-workThey are quite particular about that22:49
douglasawh-workI don't have a BS either...but I do have an MS22:49
nickmoeckWell then, I guess I won't be applying22:49
douglasawh-workyeah, it sucks.  I think they probably turn away alot of great candidates because of that, but that's the way it is22:50
sgtdreal experience > diploma   any day22:51
douglasawh-worksgtd: the Epic MD-fueled world doesn't see it that way22:52
douglasawh-workgenerally I'd agree, but for the SS TS role there is a TON of training22:52
douglasawh-workthey don't require *any* experience22:52
douglasawh-worktraining or brainwashing, hard to say having not gone through it22:53
sgtdi suppose the medical field would have a different mindset22:53
douglasawh-workI mean, I did a little, but my role is way, way different than anything else here because it's not customer-facing22:53
sgtdi know a guy who worked at abiomed and developed code for mechanical hearts.22:54
sgtdhe had a degree22:54
douglasawh-workI suppose it'd be hard to say had I gone through it...such is the nature of brainwashing22:54
sgtdbut it was way old22:54
douglasawh-workI don't think that matters.  They tend to higher young, but not always. They aren't going to turn down someone phenomal for being too old22:55
douglasawh-workalso, I guess the same might be true of a degree, but unless nickmoeck has one a nobel prize, I stand by what I said. :)22:55
nickmoeckWell, I do have an associates degree22:56
douglasawh-workhmm, you could try22:56
nickmoeckand 5 years of experience with Linux22:56
douglasawh-workthey are going to ask you for SAT scores and things like that22:56
nickmoeckACT score was a 3122:56
nickmoeckNever took the SAT22:57
douglasawh-worknot from the midwest == that means nothing to me22:57
douglasawh-workbut it probably means something to them22:57
douglasawh-workactually, why don't you send me your resume22:58
douglasawh-workthey tend to take employee recommendations pretty seriously22:58
douglasawh-workwhitfield@opensourceplayground.org22:58
douglasawh-workI know the SS TS role is out, but the SysAdmin job probably has more wiggle room22:59
nickmoeckdouglasawh-work: I'll think about it.  Not sure right at this moment because I'm still mulling over starting my own company.  I appreciate it though22:59
nickmoeckPlus I'd have to move to Madison, and I'm not sure I can do that right now23:00
douglasawh-worknickmoeck: where are you now?23:00
nickmoeckMilwaukee23:01
douglasawh-workyeah, that commute's not going to be pleasant...or economical23:01

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