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duanedesignmorning all11:55
mahenjdobrien: hi :) It seems there is a fix regarding my bug report :) Please tell me if you want me to check whether it works or not (if that's available in a ppa or proposed repo maybe ? :)14:02
jdobrienmahen, what do you mean a fix?14:03
jdobrienmahen, I started a branch which will fix it when it's finished14:04
mahenwell I don't know, I just saw this "** Branch linked: lp:~jdobrien/ubuntuone-client/fix-666942 " added to my bugreport, I assumed it was one fix :)14:04
mahenaah :)14:04
mahenOkay !14:04
mahenSorry :)14:04
mahenWell, thanks for your work then :)14:04
jdobrienmahen, we found the issue..it's going to take longer for me to write tests for it than to fix it...as usual :)14:04
mahenjdobrien: okay :) Sorry for giving you work fixing stuff that will, if I understood correctly, be dropped anyway for 11.0414:07
jdobrienmahen, what will be dropped 11.04?14:07
jdobrienmahen, this is a real bug in the code actually :)14:08
mahenI thought the whole sync daemon was being rewritten in a completely different way to allow things like resume, better reliability/performance etc.14:08
mahenBut I just caught some words here & there :)14:08
ryemahen, from performance point of view I can say that since it is highly modular the bits can be changed w/o rewriting all other code.14:13
mahenrye : good to know14:14
duanedesignhello all14:14
ryeduanedesign, morning!14:14
duanedesigngood day rye. Hope you had a nice weekend14:15
mahenthanks everyone & see you14:18
ryeduanedesign, yes, pretty much! I can now be contacted about music store issues too :-). Played with moovida, ushare, gmediacenter and mediatomb, set up the network properly... well, a normal weekend you know :)14:19
duanedesignrye: do you know if their is an existing bug report about the Emblems in Lucid not refreshing automagically.14:19
ryeduanedesign, in lucid?... let me have a look at the code14:20
duanedesignrye: the user is using the stable/PPA14:20
duanedesignbug 67138014:21
ubot4Launchpad bug 671380 in ubuntuone-client "Nautilus checkmarks not refreshing automatically (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67138014:21
ryeduanedesign, uh-huh, i understand the issue now...14:26
ryeduanedesign, need to check how nautilus reacts when we .. hmmm14:27
duanedesignyeah i did not have a VM of lucid haandy to confirm it...14:29
duanedesignprobably need to get one set-up14:29
ryeduanedesign, confirming in maverick, moved file does not get any emblem (well, it just bears the same set of emblems it used to)14:30
ryeduanedesign, it's like it does not have the info about this file :-/, ok, getting the source of ubuntuone-cilent-gnome and a hammer14:32
duanedesign:)14:33
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hallynjinkeys, my first:  next_actions.otl.u1conflict16:05
duanedesignruh roh16:07
hallynwell one thing i finally accidentally confirmed:  ecryptfs won't write out the lower files until you umount - so i left for coffee shop with netbook, and ubuntuone had my old files :)16:08
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jdobrienmahen, ping19:18
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mahenjdobrien: yep ?19:44
jdobrienmahen, did you cancel your subscription?19:45
jdobrienmahen, I just noticed that it wasn't active19:45
mahenjdobrien: hm ? I thought I just downgraded it to 20 GB temporarily actually19:46
jdobrienmahen, let me check19:46
mahenas soon as it works properly I'll upgrade again of course :)19:46
jdobrienmahen, did someone do that for you?19:46
mahenjdobrien: no. Hmm, something definitely changed since last time I visited the one.ubuntu.com/account page19:47
mahenindeed it seems to be cancelled now19:47
mahenit wans't last time I tried the sync daemon19:47
mahenwasn't19:47
jdobrienwhen is the last time you checked?19:47
jdobrienmahen, ok im going to fix it...don't worry you won't get charged, but you'll get a silly welcome email19:48
mahenI'm not sure, maybe it was last wednesday (date of my latest debug log)19:48
jdobrienoh ok19:48
mahenjdobrien: no problem :)19:49
mahenthanks19:49
jdobrienmahen, ok...you should work now19:50
tfiHi everybody ;-) . Don't know if this is the right place.. I'm a new Ubuntu One user and trying to create an account there.. I'm waiting for 10 minutes now for the confirmation code but no one arrives yet.. Is there a problem or should i simply wait?19:50
jdobrienmahen, I would like to find out what's going on with that Move retry thing19:51
jdobrienmahen, it's bewildering19:51
mahenjdobrien: OK, I have some spare time :)19:51
mahenplease tell me what to do :)19:51
jdobrienmahen, is your client connected?19:52
mahennot yet19:52
mahenshall I ?19:52
jdobrienyeah19:52
mahenok, it'll take a couple of minute (drive spinning)19:52
mahen+s19:52
jdobrienok19:52
mahen(which is another issue I have btw, but I'll bother you later about this ;)19:53
mahenjdobrien: online19:55
jdobrienmahen, are you seeing exceptions?19:55
mahenyes (I have debug enabled also)19:56
jdobrienmahen, can you paste the exceptions?19:57
jdobrienmahen, hello?19:58
mahenyep19:59
mahenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/528324/19:59
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toml_echo20:50
toml_honk20:50
ryetoml_, hi20:51
toml_hey rye20:51
toml_got a q that's not covered in the FAQ20:51
ryetoml_, okay, i am listening20:51
toml_cool20:51
toml_two folders synced into Ubuntu One20:52
toml_across two computers20:52
toml_folders A and B20:52
toml_both are synced20:52
toml_let's add a third computer20:52
toml_can I just sync folder A to the third computer, and not folder B?20:52
toml_ie. so folder A synced across 3 computers, folder B synced across only two20:53
ryetoml_, yes, but by default it will subscribe the folder so that it will start syncing20:53
toml_so how to override the default behaviour?20:53
ryetoml_, config file20:53
toml_path?20:53
ryeudf_autosubscribe = False in [__main__] section of ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf20:53
toml_on the third computer?20:54
ryetoml_, all available options are listed in /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf20:54
toml_rye, k let me have a skinnt at it20:54
toml_rye, thanks20:55
ryetoml_, yes, on the third computer will be not synchronizing anything (but ~/Ubuntu One/ folder) by default. To force subscription - u1sdtool --subscribe=$folder_uuid, which can be found by u1sdtool --list-folders20:55
toml_rye, so unset the default subscription, then on the third computer force sub to the folder with the uuid you want20:56
ryetoml_, yes, by the way, what version of Ubuntu are you runnign?20:57
toml_rye, 10.04 netbook remix on 2 x boxes, and 10.10 on a third20:58
ryetoml_, 10.10 has this option, while i am not sure about 10.04, but if third machine won't subscribe then it won't sync to it for sure20:59
toml_rye checking it now20:59
toml_rye, 10.4 Netbook has this option21:01
ryetoml_, ok, then it should be ok21:07
toml_rye just checking it out now; thanks loads for the help with this.21:07
ryetoml_, you are very welcome!21:08
toml_rye, slight problem21:27
ryetoml_, yup?21:27
toml_rye, okay, on 10.4 possible to edit syncdaemon.conf and disable automatic subscription; however, after adding computer to my account21:28
toml_rye, it still automatically subscribes21:28
toml_rye, when i run the --unsubscribe-folder option, it ignores it21:29
ryetoml_, run u1sdtool --disconnect21:29
ryetoml_, in order for it to stop syncing21:29
toml_rye, -same as -d ?21:29
ryetoml_, hm, let me double-check21:29
ryetoml_, yes21:29
toml_rye, thanks21:29
ryetoml_, wow, there's even a dbus method to disable udf autosubscribe in 10.1021:31
toml_rye, sounds... scary21:32
toml_rye,  ahaha I fecked up ... changed the wrong option in syncdaemon.conf21:33
toml_rye, will go back over it again ... think it may have been an error existing between brain and computer21:34
ryetoml_, in order to prevent syncing of everything - just restart syncdaemon - u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --start, verify that udf is not subscribed and then --connect21:35
toml_rye, right21:35
toml_rye, hmm still subscribed to the folder21:36
ryetoml_, before connecting - unsubscribe it21:36
toml_rye, nah,... -folder-unsubscribe=<id> isn't responding21:39
toml_rye, so I quit, start, list folders, try to unsub from the ID I want to. then quit, start, list... and it's still there21:39
ryetoml_, u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder=aaabbbccc... ?21:39
toml_rye, yup21:40
ryetoml_, is u1stool --list-folders shows subscribed=False ?21:40
toml_rye, standby21:40
ryetoml_, for the folder which you don't want to be sync locally21:40
toml_rye, no, actually it doesn't have a flag: it's id=asdsadafafas subscribed= path=/home/etcetcetec21:41
toml_rye, but it doesn't say =true21:41
ryetoml_, ok, that's 10.04, False was not properly printed then21:41
toml_rye, okay, so I can safely delete the initial file structure that it laid down on the local machine before I told it not to sync?21:42
ryetoml_, yes, to test - you can try keeping sd disconnected, remove the files/folders and then run u1sdtool --waiting-meta21:42
toml_rye, and that will then tell me whether it is will try to affect changes to that folder when i reconnect to the cloud?21:43
ryetoml_, yes21:43
toml_rye, testing21:44
toml_rye, --waiting-meta ... nothing reported21:44
ryetoml_, u1sdtool --status = ?21:45
toml_rye, connection: Not User With Network \ decription: ready to connect \ is_connected: false \ is_error: false \ is_online: false \ queues: IDLE21:46
ryetoml_, awesome!, feel free to connect21:47
toml_rye, ta for walking me through it rye ... really appreciate the support21:47
mahengood night everyone ! thanks again jdobrien !21:47
toml_rye, also a good crash course in the tool ;)21:47
ryetoml_, you are welcome!21:49
toml_rye, are you a dev for this tool, or just volunteering here?21:49
ryetoml_, I am more like customer support21:49
toml_rye, aha, for canonical?21:49
ryetoml_, canonical/ubuntuone-specific21:50
jdobrienrye, don't give away all our secrets on one day21:50
toml_rye, well, good on you man - clear instructions, really observant of what I was doing. Nice one.21:50
jdobrienrye, finally figured out the real problem behind the moves21:51
ryejdobrien, /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf is full of them, unencrypted21:51
ryejdobrien, aaannd??? I am all ears!!!!21:51
jdobrienrye, :)21:51
ryewell21:51
ryeeyes21:51
jdobrienrye, well...of you disconnect the client21:51
jdobrienrye, then mv <oldname> <newname> && mv <newname> <oldname>21:52
jdobrienrye, on a huge directory...21:52
jdobrienrye, the stupid server tries to do it21:52
jdobrienrye, more specifically...my stupid code21:52
jdobrienrye, or...stupid me :)21:52
ryejdobrien, erm, okay, mv oldname newname - Move() oldname -> newname... and another Move() to bring newname into oldname... that's only one dir level change... right? node id is kept...21:53
jdobrienrye, bascially it results in a move that does nothing21:54
jdobrienrye, do it with the client disconnected to a large directory21:54
jdobrienrye, then reconnect the client and you're stuck21:54
ryejdobrien, but why large directory is a must?21:55
jdobrienrye, because the server tries to do a lot of work on moves... we're going to work on fixing that this cycle as well21:57
jdobrienrye, when you move a large directory structure, there are path renames and we need to check for shares etc....it's huge21:58
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ryejdobrien, so TRY_AGAIN comes from db layer?21:58
jdobrienrye, usually yes21:58
ryejdobrien, so the query times out, then TRY_AGAIN is issued to the client which calls the server to perform the same operation which is locked which calls TRY_AGAIN and so on?21:59
jdobrienrye, it's not a locking issue as I once thought21:59
jdobrienrye, but you're close21:59
ryejdobrien, wow22:01

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