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blue_annahow do I get changes to the keyboard layouts stick?00:48
blue_annalike in the panel plugin,  I change the "Change layout option:" to both shift keys, but then it reverts. And the Keyboard layouts listed there are the system global ones even though I deselected "Use system defaults" in the keyboard preferences for Xfce400:51
aJynkshi guys02:32
aJynksI am a new xubuntu user and was hopeing to get some new guy questions answered....02:33
aJynks1) I ama trying to get audio though my HDMI cable to use a HD TV as a monitor.... but can not seam to do so02:33
aJynksI have read some threads and they say to update my nvidia drivers and also update ALSA...  is that correct and if so how do I do that?02:34
dr4c4nstep 1) do you have an nvidia card?02:35
dr4c4nstep 2) something useful in ubuntu is called02:35
dr4c4nsound bug audio02:35
dr4c4noops, I meant ubuntu-bug audio02:36
aJynksyea i have a nvidia card02:37
aJynksi do not know about ubuntu-bug audio.. what is that and how do I use it?02:38
dr4c4naJynks: can I pm (private message) u (so other people can use the forum to ask questions)?02:38
aJynkssure02:38
Balsaqgood evening xubunters02:58
dr4c4ngood evening02:58
aJynksguys.. how can I make sure I have the lattest drivers installed in xubuntu04:05
aJynksall the threads on ubuntufourms talk about menu iotems that are not in the most recent release04:05
aJynks*latest NVIDIA drivers04:06
Balsaqu could go to nvidia website04:06
aJynksbut how can i tell what driver is installed at the moment?04:07
aJynkslike all the threads say go "applications/system/hardware drivers04:09
aJynksbut that is not in my menu04:09
Balsaqrun this in terminal         lsmod04:09
aJynks(fresh install of xubuntu)04:09
Balsaqand     jockey-gtk04:09
Balsaqwhen u did the fresh install did u see xubuntu telling u to use the restricted driver? and did u choose it?04:11
aJynksno04:12
aJynksas in no i didn't see that04:12
aJynksi used the desktop iso04:12
Balsaqso maybe in your case there isnt one04:13
Balsaqso it sound slike you are running the one provided by buntu04:13
aJynksjockey-gtk searched for drivers and opened the same window that opens when clicking applications/system/addition drivers04:13
aJynksthe other command sorta listed a ton of stuff04:13
aJynksI am trying to get sound working though my hdmi cable, the threads I am reading say I need to update my nvidia drivers and alsa04:14
aJynksI just do not seam to know how to do this04:15
aJynksLike i can not tell if the nvidia drivers are the current ones or not04:15
Balsaqchecking on that...04:17
Balsaqi will log out of windows and into buntu04:20
ubuXubuhmm it spells it our for me in lsmod04:23
ubuXububut still cant tell the driver itself04:24
aJynkshmmm04:25
aJynksok, lets assume I have the latest version I suppose04:25
aJynksas applications/system/additional drivers - lists my nvida drivers with (current / recommended)04:26
aJynks(that was from the jockey-gtk command u gave me)04:26
ubuXubuwell i would hope it is04:27
aJynkslol04:28
aJynksok I am updating medibuntu from the shell command on the wiki - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu04:29
aJynksubuXubu, how do I update or check for update ALAS?04:31
ubuXubusynaptic04:31
ubuXubusyst>admin>synaptic04:32
aJynksthen just search for alas?04:32
ubuXubureload>mark all upgrades>04:33
ubuXubuand hit apply04:33
ubuXubuthen u can go to04:34
ubuXubuapplications>ubuntu software mgr04:34
ubuXubuand use the search bar to find stuff04:34
aJynksok it ticked some boxes but the apply button is stull greyed out04:34
ubuXubucos u just installed04:34
aJynks(I really aprecite your help man  thank you)04:34
ubuXubuand prolly did all updates04:35
aJynksso alas is uptodate?04:35
ubuXubui did it now too and apply is grey cos i am all up to date at the moment04:35
ubuXubuwell your OS is04:35
ubuXubuso now when u  use ubuntu software center u know its all it can be04:35
ubuXubuor when u search in synaptic04:36
ubuXubusometimes i dont know the name of wut i am looking for and i just keep typing in stuff till i find it04:36
ubuXubuso all your OS and software packages are up to date04:37
aJynksyea sorry none of this seams to be helping04:41
ubuXubuwut is your goal right now04:42
aJynksto get hdmi audio working04:42
aJynksI am pretty sure I need to update alsa04:42
aJynkshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=658981004:42
aJynksI was going to use this script04:43
ubuXubuDownload the ALSA modules04:44
ubuXubu- Compile the modules04:44
ubuXubu- Change your  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file04:44
ubuXubu- Remove the installer files04:44
ubuXubu- Reboot the PC04:44
aJynksso do not use that script?04:44
aJynksuse symnantic/04:44
aJynks?04:44
ubuXubudunno, just read that on the net04:44
ubuXubulet me ask my buddy04:44
ubuXubutoo me, if u have alsa installed, and your system is up to date then alsa is uptodate04:52
ubuXubuyeah aJynks u may as well try any script u can find on the net cos canonical doent update alsa05:06
aJynksok05:09
aJynksI found a wiki that has instructions05:10
aJynksi think might work05:10
aJynkstrying now05:10
aJynksbut it is for some custom os thatn uses ubuntu lite as the base called xbmc05:10
aJynksbut i think as it uses ubuntu... the same fix should work... ?05:11
aJynkshttp://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT24005:12
JyujinkaiHey guys,,, I am terribly stuck tryign ot get sound to go though my HDMI cable in xubuntu... can anyone help me with this?06:45
Sysiwhat graphics card?06:45
Sysii guess you need pulseaudio, thus pavucontrol06:46
JyujinkaiSysi, i installed pulse audio but no help06:54
Jyujinkaiin the configeration tab it says there is no hardware06:54
blackrockHello, how do you add keyboard layout change shortcut?07:13
RakkoWhere does xubuntu write its GUI theme settings?07:38
RakkoI can't find a gtkrc anywhere except in ~/.gimp-2.607:38
Sysidefault themes are located to /usr/share/themes07:39
Rakkowhere are my own theme settings stored?07:40
Rakkolike when I change them in Settings Manager -> Appearance07:40
Rakkoand also, if I want to create a theme for myself, where would I put it?07:42
Sysisettings are mostly in ~/.config/ and other hidden folders07:43
Sysipress ctrl h in filemanager07:43
RakkoI know07:44
Sysiif you create/get theme put it to ~/.themes/07:44
Sysiyou need to create that folder07:44
RakkoOK, I just did that for the heck of it. Let's see if Appearance picks it up :)07:44
RakkoHmm, the thing I put in there isn't showing up.07:45
Rakkooh, wait07:45
Rakkoyep, it worked :) thanks07:47
Rakkoxubuntu and xfce are awesome07:47
Sysimelikes07:50
Rakkonight07:53
Rakkonow I have MurrinaStormCloudSilver back07:54
RakkoI wonder why they took it out07:54
Rakkonight07:55
JyujinkaiHey guys,,, I am terribly stuck tryign ot get sound to go though my HDMI cable in xubuntu... can anyone help me with this?08:02
Rakkosorry, it's me again :)08:02
RakkoI got my caps lock and ctrl swapped when I'm logged in, but I don't remember how to enable it for the login screen08:03
Rakkoor for the VTs. could someone point me in the right direction?08:03
Jyujinkaidose "aplay --version" give you the version of alas play you are using?08:56
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lukinforehi14:51
lukinforeanyone knows where notes plugin store it content?14:51
charlie-tcayes, ~/.local/share/notes/Notes14:54
lukinforecharlie-tca, thanks14:56
charlie-tcaYou are welcome14:58
* likemindead is excited about Xfce 4.8 dropping. :D18:01
Sysipre 118:03
likemindeadWhat's the consensus among Xubuntu users about Ubuntu going to Unity?18:05
Sysithe regular-not-netbook too?18:05
charlie-tcayup18:07
charlie-tcaUbuntu will use unity instead of gnome-shell18:07
Sysivery interesting18:07
Sysii've alvays hated gnome, but i dislike many features in unity18:08
Sysisome features in it are great18:08
likemindeadI think they should've gone with Xfce from the beginning. It's sooo good. Love it.18:10
Sysixfce is kinda special18:11
Sysii'm a bad person, desktop is now kde18:11
likemindead:::gasp:::18:11
Sysithat's fun, most xfce-guys hate kde18:12
charlie-tcaisn't tat why there are choices?18:15
charlie-tcas/tat/that18:15
likemindeadTrue dat.18:15
Sysiexactly (but my opinions are bit odd)18:16
likemindeadI tried Kubuntu for one 6-month cycle, I think it was 7.10 or so.18:16
likemindeadCame back to Xfce, as always. :D18:16
Sysiold kde was just horrible18:16
Sysi4-series.. so much features18:16
Sysii think going from windows to osx feels like xfce → kde18:17
likemindeadI like the simplicity of Xfce, though. I strip it down to just what I like. What features are you enjoying with KDE?18:18
Sysiexept on linux you'll always have same functionality on terminal, and choises18:19
Sysii like fullscreen taskswitch, eyecandy, and workspace switches18:19
Sysiand now i've learned to use it's settings18:21
foret_Hello, everyone. Did anyone face a problem of inability to change zoom in netbeans? OS: xubuntu 10.10, DE: xfce4. Tried Ctrl+MouseWheel20:57
chudy_michefHi. I've just installed Xubuntu (Lucid Lynx) on my old Compaq - apparently successfully. Except that it won't boot - just hangs, black screen, silent hard drive. Can anyone help??21:49
charlie-tcaHold shift to get the grub menu. Then edit the boot line to remove "quiet splash". If that fails, try replacing "quiet splash" with "nomodeset". These are one-time boot edits.21:55
charlie-tcasee if it helps21:55
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: thanks I'm just going to try that21:57
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: hang on - hold shift from where to get the grub menu?21:57
charlie-tcaright after the bios check when starting the computer21:57
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: pressing shift didn't seem to do anything. is there another way I can get into a place where I can edit the boot line?22:07
charlie-tcano, unfortunately. You have to hold the right shift, maybe on that one. Don't tap shift, but hold it down22:08
charlie-tcaYou should/might see a small white square at the bottom of the screen at the right moment, but it is not always visible22:08
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: okay I'm going to try again. I'll hold the right shift down from the moment the machine switches on.22:10
charlie-tcawon't work22:10
charlie-tcahas to after bios checks so that the keyboard is active.22:10
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: okay22:10
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: aha, got it!22:10
charlie-tcayes, it is a pain in the posterior part22:11
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: it's giving me four options now - Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode), then a couple of things called memory test22:11
charlie-tcahit e on the first line to edit it.22:12
charlie-tcaarrow down to the line that ends in "quiet splash"22:12
charlie-tcahit end to get to the end of the line, then backspace carefully to remove them. do not backspace over ro /22:13
charlie-tcaThen hit Ctrl+x to boot22:13
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: okay...22:13
chudy_michefcharlie-tca: hm, the screen's gone black again and the hard disk's silent. I'll try putting in 'nomodeset' where 'quiet splash' was22:14
charlie-tcagive it a minute. It should show any errors22:14
charlie-tcaIt goes blank right away?22:14
chudy_michefno. there were a few screens of text that scrolled past very quickly. then it went blank22:14
charlie-tcaokay. Try the nomodeset then22:15
chudy_michefSame again. Last thing on those screens of text was 'Running /scripts/init-bottom'. Then blank, then 'Starting Apparmor profiles', then blank. That's where I am now!22:16
charlie-tcahmm, you can try the recovery menu next. run clean and run fix broken update22:17
charlie-tcaThen you probably have to restart again22:17
chudy_michefokay so I guess I need to switch off, then restart with the install disk in the drive to get the recovery menu??22:18
charlie-tcanope22:18
charlie-tcasecond entry in the grub menu22:18
chudy_michefokay22:18
chudy_michefI'm in the grub menu now. Do I press enter to boot that option, or e to edit it?22:21
charlie-tcaenter22:23
chudy_michefokay. I've selected 'clean' and pressed enter. I can't see an option like 'fix broken update'22:25
charlie-tcaupdate packages or fix broken anything?22:25
chudy_michefthere's 'repair broken packages' - I'll try that22:26
charlie-tcathat's it22:26
charlie-tcathen clean again22:26
charlie-tcathen continue22:26
chudy_michefIt says it's 'Checking battery state...' The cursor is blinking but apart from that it's not doing much else. Any ideas??22:27
charlie-tcaCtrl+F1 ; Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart, see if it works now22:30
charlie-tcaand the only other thing I got is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen22:31
chudy_michefArgh - same again. I got the 'Ubuntu' screen with the logo, then it went black.22:31
charlie-tcatry that troubleshooting page. and maybe ask in #ubuntu-x22:32
charlie-tcaif you can't login from there, you can boot into recovery mode and pick the last option, I think it is. root promp22:33
chudy_michefThanks for that wiki page - it seems to describe exactly what's happening. I'm just reading the workarounds.22:33
chudy_michefBut yes, there was an option like open the root directory at the command line22:34
chudy_michef(What would I do if I took that option?)22:34
charlie-tcaSometimes that is the only place you can login. It should be similar to a terminal prompt, except you are in root at that time22:34
charlie-tcasomething like ubuntu@ubuntu:22:35
chudy_michefOKay I'll try that - I'll get back to you in a minute when I've seen what happens.22:36
chudy_michefOkay I picked the 'Drop to root shell prompt' option. I've got a prompt like this: root@myname:~#22:40
charlie-tcaThat is the root user. You can do anything there, and do not need sudo in front of commands. Be careful with it22:41
chudy_michefOkay. Wiki page says I should type 'sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf' - do you mean I should type that without 'sudo'?22:42
chudy_michef(sorry to ask what's probably a silly question - but you did say I should be careful!!)22:43
charlie-tcayup22:43
charlie-tcayou don't need sudo at that prompt, since being root means it is automatically there. On the other hand, it won't hurt anything22:43
chudy_michefOkay... I'm looking at some kind of text editor, seems to have a file called xorg.conf open. But the page is blank apart from the top line and a couple of lines of options at the bottom. Wiki says to change the Device section but there's no option called device.22:46
charlie-tcatype it in, just as shown in the wiki. do not tab, use space instead22:47
charlie-tcaThen use Ctrl+O to save the file and Ctrl+X to exit the editor22:48
charlie-tcaCaps do matter with those commands22:48
chudy_michefokay... I'm back at that root prompt now.22:48
chudy_micheffollowing restart instructions on wiki22:49
charlie-tcagood22:49
chudy_michefOkay, well at least I'm getting somewhere: there's a window in the middle of the screen saying "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode. The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file'22:50
chudy_michefThe config file is what I just edited, right??22:50
chudy_michefIt's giving me a few options: Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session, Reconfigure graphics, Troubleshoot the error, Exit to console log-in, Restart X.22:52
charlie-tcaWell, try low-graphics for one session22:55
charlie-tcayup, you just edited the file, and it doesn't like that mode, but if it works...22:55
chudy_michefOkay!!! SOmething's working. I logged in. Wow. So this is Linux. Graphics looks fine from here.22:56
charlie-tcaThat would be the ", although the resolution might be quite wrong." part22:56
chudy_michefI can live with this resolution, although it will be annoying to have to get those error messages every time.22:57
charlie-tcaAnytime it asks that now, tell it you will run in low-graphics mode, at least for a little bit.22:57
Thermign8 going to bed22:59
chudy_michefThanks very much, charlie-tca. I doubt there's anything I can do in return, but I feel I owe you one.22:59
lightahi guys, can we attribuate a specific processor for a process in unix ? if yes how ?23:00
charlie-tcaYou are welcome23:00
charlie-tcaThanks is plenty23:00
charlie-tcalighta: don't know23:00
lightaok charlie-tca thx, can you suggest me a place where I can found this ?23:00
chudy_michefThen thanks again.23:01
chudy_michefBye23:02
charlie-tcaumm, not sure, lighta23:06
charlie-tcamaybe #ubuntu-kernel, but I could be wrong23:06
lightathx i'll try23:13

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