[00:48] <blue_anna> how do I get changes to the keyboard layouts stick?
[00:51] <blue_anna> like in the panel plugin,  I change the "Change layout option:" to both shift keys, but then it reverts. And the Keyboard layouts listed there are the system global ones even though I deselected "Use system defaults" in the keyboard preferences for Xfce4
[02:32] <aJynks> hi guys
[02:33] <aJynks> I am a new xubuntu user and was hopeing to get some new guy questions answered....
[02:33] <aJynks> 1) I ama trying to get audio though my HDMI cable to use a HD TV as a monitor.... but can not seam to do so
[02:34] <aJynks> I have read some threads and they say to update my nvidia drivers and also update ALSA...  is that correct and if so how do I do that?
[02:35] <dr4c4n> step 1) do you have an nvidia card?
[02:35] <dr4c4n> step 2) something useful in ubuntu is called
[02:35] <dr4c4n> sound bug audio
[02:36] <dr4c4n> oops, I meant ubuntu-bug audio
[02:37] <aJynks> yea i have a nvidia card
[02:38] <aJynks> i do not know about ubuntu-bug audio.. what is that and how do I use it?
[02:38] <dr4c4n> aJynks: can I pm (private message) u (so other people can use the forum to ask questions)?
[02:38] <aJynks> sure
[02:58] <Balsaq> good evening xubunters
[02:58] <dr4c4n> good evening
[04:05] <aJynks> guys.. how can I make sure I have the lattest drivers installed in xubuntu
[04:05] <aJynks> all the threads on ubuntufourms talk about menu iotems that are not in the most recent release
[04:06] <aJynks> *latest NVIDIA drivers
[04:06] <Balsaq> u could go to nvidia website
[04:07] <aJynks> but how can i tell what driver is installed at the moment?
[04:09] <aJynks> like all the threads say go "applications/system/hardware drivers
[04:09] <aJynks> but that is not in my menu
[04:09] <Balsaq> run this in terminal         lsmod
[04:09] <aJynks> (fresh install of xubuntu)
[04:09] <Balsaq> and     jockey-gtk
[04:11] <Balsaq> when u did the fresh install did u see xubuntu telling u to use the restricted driver? and did u choose it?
[04:12] <aJynks> no
[04:12] <aJynks> as in no i didn't see that
[04:12] <aJynks> i used the desktop iso
[04:13] <Balsaq> so maybe in your case there isnt one
[04:13] <Balsaq> so it sound slike you are running the one provided by buntu
[04:13] <aJynks> jockey-gtk searched for drivers and opened the same window that opens when clicking applications/system/addition drivers
[04:13] <aJynks> the other command sorta listed a ton of stuff
[04:14] <aJynks> I am trying to get sound working though my hdmi cable, the threads I am reading say I need to update my nvidia drivers and alsa
[04:15] <aJynks> I just do not seam to know how to do this
[04:15] <aJynks> Like i can not tell if the nvidia drivers are the current ones or not
[04:17] <Balsaq> checking on that...
[04:20] <Balsaq> i will log out of windows and into buntu
[04:23] <ubuXubu> hmm it spells it our for me in lsmod
[04:24] <ubuXubu> but still cant tell the driver itself
[04:25] <aJynks> hmmm
[04:25] <aJynks> ok, lets assume I have the latest version I suppose
[04:26] <aJynks> as applications/system/additional drivers - lists my nvida drivers with (current / recommended)
[04:26] <aJynks> (that was from the jockey-gtk command u gave me)
[04:27] <ubuXubu> well i would hope it is
[04:28] <aJynks> lol
[04:29] <aJynks> ok I am updating medibuntu from the shell command on the wiki - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:31] <aJynks> ubuXubu, how do I update or check for update ALAS?
[04:31] <ubuXubu> synaptic
[04:32] <ubuXubu> syst>admin>synaptic
[04:32] <aJynks> then just search for alas?
[04:33] <ubuXubu> reload>mark all upgrades>
[04:33] <ubuXubu> and hit apply
[04:34] <ubuXubu> then u can go to
[04:34] <ubuXubu> applications>ubuntu software mgr
[04:34] <ubuXubu> and use the search bar to find stuff
[04:34] <aJynks> ok it ticked some boxes but the apply button is stull greyed out
[04:34] <ubuXubu> cos u just installed
[04:34] <aJynks> (I really aprecite your help man  thank you)
[04:35] <ubuXubu> and prolly did all updates
[04:35] <aJynks> so alas is uptodate?
[04:35] <ubuXubu> i did it now too and apply is grey cos i am all up to date at the moment
[04:35] <ubuXubu> well your OS is
[04:35] <ubuXubu> so now when u  use ubuntu software center u know its all it can be
[04:36] <ubuXubu> or when u search in synaptic
[04:36] <ubuXubu> sometimes i dont know the name of wut i am looking for and i just keep typing in stuff till i find it
[04:37] <ubuXubu> so all your OS and software packages are up to date
[04:41] <aJynks> yea sorry none of this seams to be helping
[04:42] <ubuXubu> wut is your goal right now
[04:42] <aJynks> to get hdmi audio working
[04:42] <aJynks> I am pretty sure I need to update alsa
[04:42] <aJynks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810
[04:43] <aJynks> I was going to use this script
[04:44] <ubuXubu> Download the ALSA modules
[04:44] <ubuXubu> - Compile the modules
[04:44] <ubuXubu> - Change your  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file
[04:44] <ubuXubu> - Remove the installer files
[04:44] <ubuXubu> - Reboot the PC
[04:44] <aJynks> so do not use that script?
[04:44] <aJynks> use symnantic/
[04:44] <aJynks> ?
[04:44] <ubuXubu> dunno, just read that on the net
[04:44] <ubuXubu> let me ask my buddy
[04:52] <ubuXubu> too me, if u have alsa installed, and your system is up to date then alsa is uptodate
[05:06] <ubuXubu> yeah aJynks u may as well try any script u can find on the net cos canonical doent update alsa
[05:09] <aJynks> ok
[05:10] <aJynks> I found a wiki that has instructions
[05:10] <aJynks> i think might work
[05:10] <aJynks> trying now
[05:10] <aJynks> but it is for some custom os thatn uses ubuntu lite as the base called xbmc
[05:11] <aJynks> but i think as it uses ubuntu... the same fix should work... ?
[05:12] <aJynks> http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT240
[06:45] <Jyujinkai> Hey guys,,, I am terribly stuck tryign ot get sound to go though my HDMI cable in xubuntu... can anyone help me with this?
[06:45] <Sysi> what graphics card?
[06:46] <Sysi> i guess you need pulseaudio, thus pavucontrol
[06:54] <Jyujinkai> Sysi, i installed pulse audio but no help
[06:54] <Jyujinkai> in the configeration tab it says there is no hardware
[07:13] <blackrock> Hello, how do you add keyboard layout change shortcut?
[07:38] <Rakko> Where does xubuntu write its GUI theme settings?
[07:38] <Rakko> I can't find a gtkrc anywhere except in ~/.gimp-2.6
[07:39] <Sysi> default themes are located to /usr/share/themes
[07:40] <Rakko> where are my own theme settings stored?
[07:40] <Rakko> like when I change them in Settings Manager -> Appearance
[07:42] <Rakko> and also, if I want to create a theme for myself, where would I put it?
[07:43] <Sysi> settings are mostly in ~/.config/ and other hidden folders
[07:43] <Sysi> press ctrl h in filemanager
[07:44] <Rakko> I know
[07:44] <Sysi> if you create/get theme put it to ~/.themes/
[07:44] <Sysi> you need to create that folder
[07:44] <Rakko> OK, I just did that for the heck of it. Let's see if Appearance picks it up :)
[07:45] <Rakko> Hmm, the thing I put in there isn't showing up.
[07:45] <Rakko> oh, wait
[07:47] <Rakko> yep, it worked :) thanks
[07:47] <Rakko> xubuntu and xfce are awesome
[07:50] <Sysi> melikes
[07:53] <Rakko> night
[07:54] <Rakko> now I have MurrinaStormCloudSilver back
[07:54] <Rakko> I wonder why they took it out
[07:55] <Rakko> night
[08:02] <Jyujinkai> Hey guys,,, I am terribly stuck tryign ot get sound to go though my HDMI cable in xubuntu... can anyone help me with this?
[08:02] <Rakko> sorry, it's me again :)
[08:03] <Rakko> I got my caps lock and ctrl swapped when I'm logged in, but I don't remember how to enable it for the login screen
[08:03] <Rakko> or for the VTs. could someone point me in the right direction?
[08:56] <Jyujinkai> dose "aplay --version" give you the version of alas play you are using?
[14:51] <lukinfore> hi
[14:51] <lukinfore> anyone knows where notes plugin store it content?
[14:54] <charlie-tca> yes, ~/.local/share/notes/Notes
[14:56] <lukinfore> charlie-tca, thanks
[14:58] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:01]  * likemindead is excited about Xfce 4.8 dropping. :D
[18:03] <Sysi> pre 1
[18:05] <likemindead> What's the consensus among Xubuntu users about Ubuntu going to Unity?
[18:05] <Sysi> the regular-not-netbook too?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu will use unity instead of gnome-shell
[18:07] <Sysi> very interesting
[18:08] <Sysi> i've alvays hated gnome, but i dislike many features in unity
[18:08] <Sysi> some features in it are great
[18:10] <likemindead> I think they should've gone with Xfce from the beginning. It's sooo good. Love it.
[18:11] <Sysi> xfce is kinda special
[18:11] <Sysi> i'm a bad person, desktop is now kde
[18:11] <likemindead> :::gasp:::
[18:12] <Sysi> that's fun, most xfce-guys hate kde
[18:15] <charlie-tca> isn't tat why there are choices?
[18:15] <charlie-tca> s/tat/that
[18:15] <likemindead> True dat.
[18:16] <Sysi> exactly (but my opinions are bit odd)
[18:16] <likemindead> I tried Kubuntu for one 6-month cycle, I think it was 7.10 or so.
[18:16] <likemindead> Came back to Xfce, as always. :D
[18:16] <Sysi> old kde was just horrible
[18:16] <Sysi> 4-series.. so much features
[18:17] <Sysi> i think going from windows to osx feels like xfce → kde
[18:18] <likemindead> I like the simplicity of Xfce, though. I strip it down to just what I like. What features are you enjoying with KDE?
[18:19] <Sysi> exept on linux you'll always have same functionality on terminal, and choises
[18:19] <Sysi> i like fullscreen taskswitch, eyecandy, and workspace switches
[18:21] <Sysi> and now i've learned to use it's settings
[20:57] <foret_> Hello, everyone. Did anyone face a problem of inability to change zoom in netbeans? OS: xubuntu 10.10, DE: xfce4. Tried Ctrl+MouseWheel
[21:49] <chudy_michef> Hi. I've just installed Xubuntu (Lucid Lynx) on my old Compaq - apparently successfully. Except that it won't boot - just hangs, black screen, silent hard drive. Can anyone help??
[21:55] <charlie-tca> Hold shift to get the grub menu. Then edit the boot line to remove "quiet splash". If that fails, try replacing "quiet splash" with "nomodeset". These are one-time boot edits.
[21:55] <charlie-tca> see if it helps
[21:57] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: thanks I'm just going to try that
[21:57] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: hang on - hold shift from where to get the grub menu?
[21:57] <charlie-tca> right after the bios check when starting the computer
[22:07] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: pressing shift didn't seem to do anything. is there another way I can get into a place where I can edit the boot line?
[22:08] <charlie-tca> no, unfortunately. You have to hold the right shift, maybe on that one. Don't tap shift, but hold it down
[22:08] <charlie-tca> You should/might see a small white square at the bottom of the screen at the right moment, but it is not always visible
[22:10] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: okay I'm going to try again. I'll hold the right shift down from the moment the machine switches on.
[22:10] <charlie-tca> won't work
[22:10] <charlie-tca> has to after bios checks so that the keyboard is active.
[22:10] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: okay
[22:10] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: aha, got it!
[22:11] <charlie-tca> yes, it is a pain in the posterior part
[22:11] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: it's giving me four options now - Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode), then a couple of things called memory test
[22:12] <charlie-tca> hit e on the first line to edit it.
[22:12] <charlie-tca> arrow down to the line that ends in "quiet splash"
[22:13] <charlie-tca> hit end to get to the end of the line, then backspace carefully to remove them. do not backspace over ro /
[22:13] <charlie-tca> Then hit Ctrl+x to boot
[22:13] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: okay...
[22:14] <chudy_michef> charlie-tca: hm, the screen's gone black again and the hard disk's silent. I'll try putting in 'nomodeset' where 'quiet splash' was
[22:14] <charlie-tca> give it a minute. It should show any errors
[22:14] <charlie-tca> It goes blank right away?
[22:14] <chudy_michef> no. there were a few screens of text that scrolled past very quickly. then it went blank
[22:15] <charlie-tca> okay. Try the nomodeset then
[22:16] <chudy_michef> Same again. Last thing on those screens of text was 'Running /scripts/init-bottom'. Then blank, then 'Starting Apparmor profiles', then blank. That's where I am now!
[22:17] <charlie-tca> hmm, you can try the recovery menu next. run clean and run fix broken update
[22:17] <charlie-tca> Then you probably have to restart again
[22:18] <chudy_michef> okay so I guess I need to switch off, then restart with the install disk in the drive to get the recovery menu??
[22:18] <charlie-tca> nope
[22:18] <charlie-tca> second entry in the grub menu
[22:18] <chudy_michef> okay
[22:21] <chudy_michef> I'm in the grub menu now. Do I press enter to boot that option, or e to edit it?
[22:23] <charlie-tca> enter
[22:25] <chudy_michef> okay. I've selected 'clean' and pressed enter. I can't see an option like 'fix broken update'
[22:25] <charlie-tca> update packages or fix broken anything?
[22:26] <chudy_michef> there's 'repair broken packages' - I'll try that
[22:26] <charlie-tca> that's it
[22:26] <charlie-tca> then clean again
[22:26] <charlie-tca> then continue
[22:27] <chudy_michef> It says it's 'Checking battery state...' The cursor is blinking but apart from that it's not doing much else. Any ideas??
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Ctrl+F1 ; Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart, see if it works now
[22:31] <charlie-tca> and the only other thing I got is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[22:31] <chudy_michef> Argh - same again. I got the 'Ubuntu' screen with the logo, then it went black.
[22:32] <charlie-tca> try that troubleshooting page. and maybe ask in #ubuntu-x
[22:33] <charlie-tca> if you can't login from there, you can boot into recovery mode and pick the last option, I think it is. root promp
[22:33] <chudy_michef> Thanks for that wiki page - it seems to describe exactly what's happening. I'm just reading the workarounds.
[22:34] <chudy_michef> But yes, there was an option like open the root directory at the command line
[22:34] <chudy_michef> (What would I do if I took that option?)
[22:34] <charlie-tca> Sometimes that is the only place you can login. It should be similar to a terminal prompt, except you are in root at that time
[22:35] <charlie-tca> something like ubuntu@ubuntu:
[22:36] <chudy_michef> OKay I'll try that - I'll get back to you in a minute when I've seen what happens.
[22:40] <chudy_michef> Okay I picked the 'Drop to root shell prompt' option. I've got a prompt like this: root@myname:~#
[22:41] <charlie-tca> That is the root user. You can do anything there, and do not need sudo in front of commands. Be careful with it
[22:42] <chudy_michef> Okay. Wiki page says I should type 'sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf' - do you mean I should type that without 'sudo'?
[22:43] <chudy_michef> (sorry to ask what's probably a silly question - but you did say I should be careful!!)
[22:43] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:43] <charlie-tca> you don't need sudo at that prompt, since being root means it is automatically there. On the other hand, it won't hurt anything
[22:46] <chudy_michef> Okay... I'm looking at some kind of text editor, seems to have a file called xorg.conf open. But the page is blank apart from the top line and a couple of lines of options at the bottom. Wiki says to change the Device section but there's no option called device.
[22:47] <charlie-tca> type it in, just as shown in the wiki. do not tab, use space instead
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Then use Ctrl+O to save the file and Ctrl+X to exit the editor
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Caps do matter with those commands
[22:48] <chudy_michef> okay... I'm back at that root prompt now.
[22:49] <chudy_michef> following restart instructions on wiki
[22:49] <charlie-tca> good
[22:50] <chudy_michef> Okay, well at least I'm getting somewhere: there's a window in the middle of the screen saying "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode. The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file'
[22:50] <chudy_michef> The config file is what I just edited, right??
[22:52] <chudy_michef> It's giving me a few options: Run Ubuntu in low-graphics mode for just one session, Reconfigure graphics, Troubleshoot the error, Exit to console log-in, Restart X.
[22:55] <charlie-tca> Well, try low-graphics for one session
[22:55] <charlie-tca> yup, you just edited the file, and it doesn't like that mode, but if it works...
[22:56] <chudy_michef> Okay!!! SOmething's working. I logged in. Wow. So this is Linux. Graphics looks fine from here.
[22:56] <charlie-tca> That would be the ", although the resolution might be quite wrong." part
[22:57] <chudy_michef> I can live with this resolution, although it will be annoying to have to get those error messages every time.
[22:57] <charlie-tca> Anytime it asks that now, tell it you will run in low-graphics mode, at least for a little bit.
[22:59] <Thermi> gn8 going to bed
[22:59] <chudy_michef> Thanks very much, charlie-tca. I doubt there's anything I can do in return, but I feel I owe you one.
[23:00] <lighta> hi guys, can we attribuate a specific processor for a process in unix ? if yes how ?
[23:00] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:00] <charlie-tca> Thanks is plenty
[23:00] <charlie-tca> lighta: don't know
[23:00] <lighta> ok charlie-tca thx, can you suggest me a place where I can found this ?
[23:01] <chudy_michef> Then thanks again.
[23:02] <chudy_michef> Bye
[23:06] <charlie-tca> umm, not sure, lighta
[23:06] <charlie-tca> maybe #ubuntu-kernel, but I could be wrong
[23:13] <lighta> thx i'll try