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mbergamoIt's not possible for me to install lubuntu by putting the ISO file on an external harddrive is it? It needs to be on a CD/DVD?00:24
stlsaintmbergamo: hrm, you can break off a small partition on that external and install lubuntu to it that way00:25
mbergamostlsaint: I have a partition already made, I am just fresh out of CDs and impatient :)00:31
stlsaintinstall it to that partition then install to computer00:32
smckillopHi all. Just installed Lubuntu for the first time. Did it in VMWare but my app windows look like they are about 200% size.00:48
smckillopI installed the vmware-tools package using the Synaptic package manager.00:49
smckillopmy program bar and desktop look normal. Just the program windows are affected. Title bars look fine but the menus are huge00:50
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audioHi, all09:38
audioIs there a keyboard way of opening the LXDE "Start" menu?09:38
bioterrorctrl+esc09:39
audiobioterror: got it - thanks09:40
bioterrornp09:40
bioterrorin gnome alt+f109:40
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: have you ever tried installing google earth on lubuntu? :D09:41
bioterrornope, should I09:41
bioterror?09:41
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: nope. :D09:41
bioterrorsad157@dopethrone:~$ sudo apt-get install googleearth-package09:42
bioterrorpassword?!09:42
bioterroraa aaa aaaa you didnt say the magic word09:42
bioterror:D09:42
JoeMaverickSettlol :D09:42
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: you at work?09:42
bioterrorsick leave09:43
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: how nice!? :P09:43
bioterrorgot 37,7C fever in the morning09:43
JoeMaverickSett:O09:43
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: take care! :)09:43
bioterrorI've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!09:43
bioterrorhttp://www.laughness.com/snl-gotta-have-more-cowbell-original-skit.1126 if you havent seen09:44
JoeMaverickSettah, successfully installed Google earth on my 11yrs old Lubuntu! ;D09:45
bioterror11 years ;D09:45
JoeMaverickSettyeah, old dude! and i run him 24/7. non-stop. :D09:46
audioNext problem - I am using a flat screen TV as a monitor.  Works really well with Gnome Ubuntu.  But resolution is wrong in Lubuntu.  I can't start, see or open the start menu so can't change it.09:46
audioAny other way?09:46
bioterroraudio, tv's resolution is wrong :D09:46
bioterrorit's 1366x768 or something like that if it's just a "hd ready"09:47
szczurpress Alt+F2 and run lxrandr09:47
bioterrordamn, I hate when people uses tv's as a monitor with old hardware09:47
bioterrornowdays laptops has a 16:9 displays09:47
* bioterror is a former viewsonic tech support ;)09:47
szczur^^09:47
audioszczur: OK I'll give it a try.09:48
head_victimtv /= monitor :/09:48
szczuraudio if nothing will appear, run lxterminal09:48
szczurand then sudo apt-get install lxrandr09:48
bioterrorI think that tv resolution should be done with xorg.conf and virtual09:48
szczurgrandr is nice too09:49
audioszczur: Alt+F2 worked fine - The whole screen is now displayed.  But the fonts on the menu etc are too small to read.  Any suggestion how to increase their size?09:58
szczurrun lxterminal09:59
szczurrun sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:59
szczurto Monitor Section add line10:00
szczur    Option         "DPI" "96x96"10:00
szczurif this file is empty (probably nonexistent)10:01
szczurplease run (write down these commands since XServer will be shut down)10:01
szczursudo service lxde stop10:01
szczursudo X -configure10:01
szczurthis will create xorg.conf.new file located at your home folder10:02
szczurnow please do sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:02
szczursudo service lxdm start10:03
szczurand do the sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf thingy once again10:03
audioszczur: OK, I'll give it a shot.10:04
szczurwhat graphic card are you using?10:04
petsoundshi all. i have problem installing lubuntu maverick, the installer had crashed during installation. what gives? thanks10:12
audioszczur: This is going to be really tricky.  The fonts are so small that they are illegible.  I'm having to guess that the commands are constructed correctly.  BTW its leafpad rather than gedit.10:13
szczurahh, i'm using gedit sorry10:14
szczuryeah, you can use your favourite editor10:14
szczureven nano in text mode would do the trick10:14
szczur:)10:14
audioI'll try nano.10:14
audioszczur: even in nano the text is illegible (too small) not my eyesight. Any suggestion how to gain even a temporary increase in size?10:17
szczurhmmm :/10:17
audioperhaps I should try an alternative screen resolution?10:18
szczurby text mode you mean that one accessed from Ctrl+Alt+F1?10:18
szczurnot the LXTerminal?10:19
audiono I meant lxterminal10:19
audioso now shut down the xserver?10:19
szczurahh, so you have to change resolution or go to the textmode :)10:20
szczuris xorg.conf empty?10:20
szczurif it is you have to shut down XServer10:20
szczurand do the sudo -X -configure10:20
audioI think so but I had to guess that I entered the path to the file correctly.10:20
szczurso you have to shutdown XServer then10:21
szczursudo service lxdm stop10:22
szczurand do sudo X -configure10:22
audioOK10:22
szczuras i said before :)10:22
audioszczur: CTL+ALT+F1 is a problem as the text mode is "out of range of the TV".  I think I will have to try to reset the PC screen resolution and try again.  Lots of fun...10:27
szczur:/10:27
szczur*sigh*10:27
audioIt's a shame really as it works fine with other distros.10:27
audioszczur: I have found a work-around using the GUI only.10:37
szczurwhat is it?10:38
audioPreferences->Monitor Setting  set to Auto & Auto.10:38
audioPreferences-> Look and Feel select theme Clearlooks and det the default font to 3610:39
audio*set10:39
audiothis give a usable interface.10:40
audionow I can check the xorg.conf10:40
szczurok10:40
audioBTW it would not allow the font size to be changed with Lubuntu-default theme so I had to change it to Clearlooks.10:41
audioszczur: /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist.  If the xserver has to be shut-down to create one it will be a problem as ctl+alt+f1 does not give a usable cli.10:45
szczuryeah, i know :/10:45
szczurhmmm10:46
kosaidpo1audio: iguess if u dont have non-free drives then u wont have it10:50
kosaidpo1its only for non free drives cards i guess10:50
audioszczur: To answer your earlier question the graphic adaptor is an on-board chip (SIS 65xM650/740 PCI/AGP) in an Acer machine.  I would think there are plenty of them around still.10:50
szczurbut it can be used to alter the maximum resolution and DPI used by XServer10:50
audioI know of one site with hundreds of these machines in daily service.10:54
JoeMaverickSettwould this help? http://www.myokyawhtun.com/ubuntu-linux/how-to-change-custom-resolution-in-ubuntu-10.html10:58
szczurhmm, we can try pretty default xorg.conf > http://szczur.ath.cx/xorg.conf10:59
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szczurbut if it fails you're stuch with out of range :/10:59
szczurmaybe i should delete the modules section10:59
szczurthe rest should be safe10:59
szczurJoeMaverickSett, the problem is that his DPI is low so every font in the system is small11:00
JoeMaverickSettszczur: oh,i thought he was having a resolution problem.11:00
szczurthe default one is 96x96. i had 72x72 and i could barely read what i see11:00
szczurhe set default font to size of 3611:01
szczurnow without modules section it should be fail-safe :)11:03
audioszczur: do you want me to try the xorg.conf you posted earlier?11:10
szczurdo you have the posibility to use textmode later? (if something fails?)11:10
szczurit should be safe but no one can be sure :)11:11
audioThe only option I have is to replace the TV with a normal PC monitor.11:11
szczurif it wouldn't be problematic you can try this xorg.conf and tell me the results :)11:13
szczurbut wait for a moment11:13
szczuri'll check it once more11:13
audioOK11:13
szczurok, i removed the files section since i don't have on ein my xorg.conf11:15
szczurok11:15
szczurlet's try this :)11:15
szczurhttp://szczur.ath.cx/xorg.conf11:15
audiodo I simply create it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf (as root) and then log out and back in again? Or do you want any other steps?11:17
szczurjust create xorg.conf as root11:19
szczurand then restart XServer11:19
szczur(log out and log in)11:19
szczurthis shoudl do the trick11:19
audioszczur: created xorg.conf as directed, rebooted (just to be safe) logged in but no change to symptoms.  Question should the file be named xorg.conf or Xorg.conf?  Currently it is xorg.conf (lowercase x).11:32
szczuryeah, it should be like that /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:33
NativeAngelshow do i access the shell in the alternate version11:49
NativeAngelshello12:00
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hblounthi. i have a fujitsu lifebook c2330. its an old laptop. i booted with lubuntu usb, but the sd card reader doesnt work. anyone know how to fix this?16:10
hblounthi. i have an old fujitsu lifebook c2330 that i booted lubuntu with usb drive but the SD card reader doesnt work. anyone know how to fix this?16:38
Timo_hblount: I would just come around again when there are helpers around here. phillw, szczur bioterror, friTTe| and others are guys with great knowledge about (l)ubuntu, they are just not here right now!16:42
hblountok thanks.when are they usually around?16:43
friTTe|im here now, but i dont have the answer im afraid16:43
friTTe|just woke up =)16:44
Timo_hi phillw ;hug16:45
Timo_;hug16:45
Timo_oh wait this isn't offtopic :p16:45
hblounti think i will just use ubuntu...it seems to have more drivers for misc things on laptops16:47
Timo_hblount: ye, that's part of lubuntu, it's lightweight16:49
Timo_oh16:49
Timo_well goodbye then :p16:49
JoeMaverickSettTimo_: who are you talking to? :P16:49
Timo_JoeMaverickSett: I was talking to hblount who left ;P16:52
Timo_but now is back16:52
JoeMaverickSettTimo_: :D16:53
hblountTimo_: what did u say?16:53
bioterrorhblount, lubuntu has the same drivers as ubuntu16:56
bioterrorthe only difference is the candy on top16:56
bioterrorsame stuff inside16:56
hblounthmm...idk i'm noob. maybe its not drivers but some stuff that worked when i had ubuntu installed dont work with lubuntu :P16:57
bioterrorwhat are you missing then?16:58
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hblountsome of the non qwerty buttons and side scroll with touchpad (vertical scroll works) and SD card reader. they worked with ubuntu17:02
bioterrorhmmm17:06
bioterrorthat sd card reader should work17:06
bioterrorhblount, can you see it in lspci?17:06
hblountidk let me check. i didnt see it in disk utility or file manager17:08
bioterroryou've got SD or CF card inserted?17:09
bioterror02:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 18)17:10
bioterrorIve got17:10
hblountit sees it in lspci17:12
hblountno its not in rightr now17:12
hblountput it in and do lspci?17:12
bioterrorno17:12
bioterrorput it in17:12
bioterrorand do 'dmesg'17:12
hblountok.it shows a bunch of msgs about pcmcia17:14
bioterrordo you get sdX17:14
bioterrorso that it tells us which device it is17:15
bioterrorbecouse I've got a feeling...17:15
bioterrorthat this is a PCManFM related thing17:15
hblounti dont see any sdX...17:18
hblountu want to me to post results on that one site? forgot url17:19
bioterrorhmm17:19
bioterror!pastebin17:19
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bioterrordaamn17:29
bioterrorI didnt have a SD card inside my D8017:29
hblountdamn sorry this comp crashed (its xp :P). if your still there, pastebin.com/DpZtRg8t17:56
bioterrorhblount, sounds weird18:05
bioterrorI'll watch this episode of this tv show and grab a SD card from downstairs18:05
hblountok thanks18:07
bioterrorhblount, http://ricecows.org/mmc.png18:15
hblountphillw: so maybe my sd card reader is physically damaged? btw, what is that display with cpu/ram/network stuff?18:23
bioterrorconky18:24
bioterrorhblount, could be something wrong with it. mine works without a problem18:24
phillwhblount: I have one added to my panel, if you click on a blank area of the menu bar, you will see options to "add to panel" they are listed in there.18:25
hblountok. would it make a difference if i installed lubuntu instead of live boot from usb?18:27
bioterrornope18:27
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hblountphillw: if i install lubuntu rather than live boot via usb, would functionality improve?18:34
bioterrorperformance would18:34
bioterrorUSB 2.0 is around 5MB/s max when reading18:35
bioterrorand harddrive goes 20-40MB/s18:35
phillw+118:35
hblountso its highly unlikely that the sd card reader will work if i install it huh18:40
bioterrorindeed18:41
phillwhblount: lspci is seeing your card reader, just not the card.18:41
bioterrortry another card?18:41
hblountoooh18:41
hblountdamnit18:41
bioterrormy desktop computer's CF reader is broken :D18:41
bioterrorand I use CF cards with my Nikon D1x18:41
bioterrorD80 uses SDHC ;)18:41
bioterrorbut I've got a usb card reader too18:42
phillwbioterror: you can get usb card readers, I had one that read 21 different types :D18:42
bioterroryeah18:42
bioterrorthat's 8 types18:42
phillwlol, you took the words out of my mouth :)18:42
hblountthe card is pretty new and i've only used it one time for pics...18:42
hblounti'd rather this laptop be broken than the sd card :P18:43
bioterrorhard to say18:46
hblountok. i'll try it on my friends comp later. dont have another sd card or comp with reader :P18:46
hblounti have very important pics of my ex naked on there. need for revenge18:47
bioterrorwell, I hope you're going to share those pics with us too ;D18:47
bioterrornot really18:48
bioterrorthat kind of revenge is horrible18:48
bioterror"what goes to internet, stays on internet"18:48
hblountforever18:50
rigvedhi everyone19:33
rigvedcan anyone tell me how close is lubuntu to ubuntu in terms of the look and the applications available19:33
phillwrigved: there are some screen shots at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/19:45
phillwrigved: give me min to dig up the applications list.19:45
rigvedphillw: ok19:45
bioterroryou can download all the apps to lubuntu what vanilla ubuntu has19:46
phillwrigved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications has the list of our default apps., but as bioterror says you can add to it if you wish.19:47
rigvedbioterror, phillw: thanx.19:51
rigvedso does LXDE use GTK+ library?19:51
rigvedfor looks19:51
phillwyeas, but there could be changes afoot as ubuntu drops gnome.19:52
rigvedphillw: ya i have heard that too.19:53
phillwrigved: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=25119:53
phillwJulien is the head of development for lubuntu.19:53
bioterrorand ubuntu is going to drop X11 :D19:53
* bioterror is really looking forward for the wayland19:54
rigvedphillw: :)19:56
gilirphillw, no ! ubuntu doesn't drop gnome19:56
gilironly the shell19:56
rigvedbioterror: i haven't heard that. cool19:57
phillwrigved: I'm just one of the harrassed documenters that tries to keep docs and wiki etc up to date. gilir = Julien, our head of development19:57
rigvedgilir: hi. ubuntu is working on gnome3 i think.19:58
gilirrigved, yes, the integration of gnome3 have just began for natty19:59
rigvedon the website it says that lubuntu 10.04 is not the LTS version. i want stability (even if i do not have the latest of packages). so, should i install 10.04 or 10.10?20:06
phillwrigved: "As support for i586 chipsets has been dropped from the kernel for the 10.10 series (These include VIA C3, AMD K6, National Semiconductor and AMD Geode) you will need to use the 10.04 Release. The team will support Lubuntu 10.04 for five years (as if it were an LTS). "20:08
rigvedphillw: ok. i have a compaq laptop which only supports the low-level graphics mode of ubuntu. so i want to switch to something lighter.20:09
phillwrigved: it is entirely upto you whether to install 10.04 or 10.10, but 10.04 will be around for a while - we promise :)20:10
rigvedso if i install lubuntu-desktop from ubuntu software center, will it install 10.04 0r 10.10. after that how to i remove gnome completely?20:12
rigvedi found this - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfcelucid20:13
rigvedthese commands are supposed to remove gnome20:13
phillwrigved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors20:17
phillwbut that is for 10.10. if you want to remove 10.04 ubuntu, just ammend the end comment as per that post.20:19
rigvedphillw: thanx20:20
phillwas long as you stick on the -no reccomends stuff at the end, it should be fine. I do have to be honest and say I've never tried it with 10.0420:22
rigvedphillw: ok20:23
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rigvedok. thanx. i'll try that tomorrow. bye20:31

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