bbordwell | hello, I hate to progress my own bugs so could someone make sure this bug is reproducible? it should only take a few seconds: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/671948 | 01:14 |
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ubot2 | Launchpad bug 671948 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Indicator-sound closes rhytmbox if opened soon after closing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 01:14 |
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RedSingularity | Does update-manager have an apport-hook? | 10:21 |
RedSingularity | micahg: ^^^ ? | 10:22 |
yofel | RedSingularity: from what I see - no | 10:32 |
RedSingularity | yofel: where did you go to look? | 10:32 |
jibel | RedSingularity, I confirm it doesn't have one. | 10:32 |
yofel | RedSingularity: /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/ (if you have it installed), and I checked the source package | 10:33 |
RedSingularity | yofel,jibel: Thanks | 10:36 |
yofel | no problem | 10:37 |
cjae | can someone please find a solution to logitech mx5500 kb and mouse combos, as bluez and bluetooth monolithic progress in kubuntu the support get worse | 11:28 |
cjae | 64 bit | 11:28 |
cjae | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil/+bug/650603 | 11:32 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 650603 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "bluedevil does not recognize my bluetooth dongle at all mx 5500 kb and mouse (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Undecided,New] | 11:32 |
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bcurtiswx_ | hggdh, ping | 14:10 |
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bcurtiswx_ | hggdh, at the meeting, I won't be able to attend (seminar at that time). When it comes time for mentor reports will you let them know I need my current two removed from program due to no response of emails and I can be assigned a couple more? | 14:33 |
hggdh | bcurtiswx_: will do, thanks for the heads up | 14:40 |
bcurtiswx_ | hggdh, much appreciated | 14:41 |
charlie-tca | nightmare coming: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-bug-jam-december-2010 | 14:46 |
charlie-tca | Why do people think bugs "must" be closed? | 14:46 |
BUGabundo | cause they get in the way of work | 14:48 |
BUGabundo | at least for me | 14:48 |
BUGabundo | at work, seeing an empty queue is better | 14:49 |
charlie-tca | So, of the hundreds/thousands of bugs you have filed, can we close all of them? | 14:50 |
pedro_ | kamusin, hey! great work on the bug day :-) | 15:13 |
kamusin | :) heh | 15:14 |
jcastro | hey pedro_ | 15:15 |
jcastro | you get my mail about a unity section for status.qa.ubuntu.com? | 15:15 |
pedro_ | jcastro, hey!, yes i got it, but bdmurray has the rights to add stuffs there | 15:16 |
jcastro | ok | 15:16 |
jcastro | I will go after him then! | 15:16 |
jcastro | pedro_: will you be doing unity triaging this cycle? | 15:16 |
pedro_ | jcastro, he's probably already looking at it ;-) | 15:17 |
pedro_ | jcastro, yeah i'll be helping didrocks and the guys with that | 15:17 |
jcastro | ok | 15:17 |
pedro_ | we already discussed some bits on UDS | 15:17 |
pedro_ | workflow etc | 15:17 |
jcastro | nice | 15:17 |
jcastro | hey so, I just need to make sure you guys are feeding me bitesize ones | 15:17 |
jcastro | so just tag em as you see them | 15:17 |
pedro_ | will do it | 15:17 |
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bdmurray | jcastro: so what packages exactly? | 16:24 |
jcastro | bdmurray: a bunch, I take it you need a list? | 16:25 |
bdmurray | jcastro: yeah | 16:25 |
jcastro | on it | 16:25 |
bdmurray | jcastro: cool, thanks | 16:25 |
micahg | is the meeting at 17:00? | 16:25 |
jcastro | bdmurray: source packages or binary? | 16:29 |
bdmurray | jcastro: source because that is what launchpad uses | 16:30 |
jcastro | bdmurray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/528773/ | 16:33 |
charlie-tca | micahg: as far as I know | 16:33 |
jcastro | bdmurray: we'll have to adjust it a little bit when the compiz stuff lands but that should be good for now | 16:37 |
jcastro | bdmurray: also, do you have the ability to graph specific tags in bugs? | 16:37 |
jcastro | I'd like to keep track of "bitesize" ones in unity | 16:37 |
bdmurray | jcastro: I'll have to look at tags for a specific package | 16:40 |
jcastro | bdmurray: is that hard/alot of work? | 16:41 |
jcastro | ideally if the bug line could also show which ones of those are bitesize that would rock | 16:41 |
yofel_ | o/ | 16:59 |
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pedro_ | hey hey , do we have a meeting now? | 17:00 |
hggdh | yes, we should (I think) | 17:01 |
yofel | ping hggdh | 17:01 |
yofel | ah :) | 17:01 |
hggdh | er | 17:01 |
hggdh | am I the leader today? | 17:01 |
hggdh | :-) | 17:01 |
yofel | the wiki says you are | 17:01 |
hggdh | oh | 17:01 |
pedro_ | hggdh, looks like it :-P | 17:01 |
pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting <- Agenda | 17:02 |
hggdh | #startmeeting | 17:02 |
meetingology | Meeting started Tue Nov 9 17:02:51 2010 UTC. The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell. | 17:02 |
meetingology | Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. | 17:02 |
hggdh | OK. Here we go, sorry for the delay | 17:03 |
hggdh | topics as as shown here: | 17:03 |
hggdh | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting | 17:03 |
hggdh | so | 17:03 |
yofel | btw, who manages the dates for the weekly newsletter? #217 said our meeting is at 18:00UTC | 17:03 |
hggdh | the following actions were set last meeting: | 17:04 |
hggdh | # | 17:04 |
hggdh | * Bug Day to be created for regression-potential tags | 17:04 |
hggdh | * bdmurray to remove regression-potential as an official bug tag for Ubuntu | 17:04 |
hggdh | * hggdh to prepare a bug day excepting kernel | 17:04 |
hggdh | * hggdh to clean up the Regression wiki pages | 17:04 |
hggdh | * nigelb to edit bugsquad headers to be similar or link to each other appropriately | 17:04 |
hggdh | * | 17:04 |
hggdh | devildante to split HowToTriage page up into a simple page and an advanced page | 17:04 |
hggdh | * devildante to start e-mail thread in mailing list about translations of bug reports | 17:04 |
hggdh | of those, the first four were done | 17:05 |
hggdh | nigelb: there? | 17:05 |
hggdh | devildante is MIA right now... | 17:06 |
hggdh | so I will mark these actions as pending, and re-activate for next meeting | 17:06 |
hggdh | [ACTION] nigelb to edit bugsquad headers to be similar or link to each other appropriately | 17:06 |
meetingology | ACTION: nigelb to edit bugsquad headers to be similar or link to each other appropriately | 17:06 |
hggdh | [ACTION] devildante to split HowToTriage page up into a simple page and an advanced page | 17:07 |
meetingology | ACTION: devildante to split HowToTriage page up into a simple page and an advanced page | 17:07 |
hggdh | devildante *did* start a thread on the ML, and we discussed translations more during UDS | 17:08 |
hggdh | pedro_: do you have a summary of what was decided in UDS? | 17:08 |
pedro_ | hggdh, yeah | 17:08 |
pedro_ | that's blueprint https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-qa-n-handling-nonenglish-bugs | 17:08 |
pedro_ | we agreed that the best place where to handle such reports is the answer tracker | 17:09 |
hggdh | at least for now, yes (now I remember ;-) | 17:09 |
pedro_ | so they can ask the questions in their native language there, then it can be translated and converted into a bug report | 17:09 |
hggdh | all: any comments on that? | 17:10 |
pedro_ | there's a couple of work items : | 17:10 |
pedro_ | [brian-murray] Recommend that people ask a question in their native language in Answers (best stop-gap move): TODO | 17:10 |
pedro_ | [brian-murray] Modify Luanchpad to allow one to specify the language when converting a bug into a question: TODO | 17:10 |
pedro_ | so the detail to fix is to have the option in the "convert to question" to specify the language | 17:11 |
pedro_ | because right now you have to convert the question and then go to the question on the answer tracker and change the language | 17:11 |
kklimonda | hggdh: so the workflow is "foreign bug is reported -> we convert it into a question -> it gets translated and reported again" ? | 17:11 |
hggdh | kklimonda: the ideal would be for them to start in the answer tracker | 17:11 |
kklimonda | or the original report is just re-opened? | 17:12 |
charlie-tca | sorry, seem to be late again | 17:12 |
pedro_ | kklimonda, for already filed reports and if it's a bug, yes | 17:12 |
yofel | is it currently possible to change the language of a question? | 17:12 |
bdmurray | kklimonda: reopened once complete in english | 17:12 |
bdmurray | yofel: yes | 17:12 |
pedro_ | yofel, yeah, but only in the answer tracker | 17:12 |
hggdh | LP dev is considering localisation, but it will take a time (lots to do) | 17:13 |
yofel | that's what I wanted to know, thanks. So I'm fine with converting those to questions if we can set the proper language afterwards | 17:13 |
kklimonda | I think it makes sense - it definitely beats alternatives. | 17:14 |
bdmurray | yofel: I'm looking at setting the proper language during conversion. | 17:14 |
yofel | bdmurray: that would be nice indeed, thanks | 17:14 |
pedro_ | and that' would be a *neat* feature | 17:14 |
hggdh | we still will need to communicate this, when the infrastructure is in place | 17:15 |
micahg | convert to question is still broken AFAIK, but it's at the top of the LP Bugs work list | 17:15 |
bdmurray | micahg: when you say broken do you mean times out? | 17:15 |
micahg | yes | 17:15 |
pedro_ | micahg, it sort of works here, the first time i get a time out, but if you click back and then convert again it works | 17:15 |
pedro_ | odd but that's the only way i can convert a bug to a question right now | 17:16 |
hggdh | pedro_: happens on edge only? | 17:16 |
bdmurray | incidentally there is not an edge anymore really | 17:16 |
pedro_ | hggdh, just tried on edge | 17:16 |
micahg | total time is around 100 seconds for convert to question hence the failure | 17:17 |
pedro_ | ok so it might be the same on the normal lp, haven't tried though | 17:17 |
micahg | progress can be tracked in bug 438116 | 17:17 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 438116 in launchpad-foundations "Timeout when converting bug into question (BugTask:+create-question) (affects: 6) (dups: 3) (heat: 50)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438116 | 17:17 |
pedro_ | thanks micahg | 17:17 |
hggdh | subscribed, thank you micahg | 17:18 |
hggdh | any other comments on this? | 17:18 |
hggdh | so... | 17:18 |
hggdh | [TOPIC] Mentorship program update from Mentors | 17:18 |
meetingology | TOPIC: Mentorship program update from Mentors | 17:18 |
hggdh | from me: | 17:19 |
hggdh | ojap pings me once per week | 17:19 |
hggdh | from bcurtiswx_ (asked me to relay this): no response from his two mentees, recommends dropping them | 17:19 |
hggdh | (also from me: kangorooo asked for an extention and vanished again) | 17:20 |
pedro_ | again? wow | 17:20 |
hggdh | other mentorship updates? | 17:20 |
jibel | o/ | 17:20 |
pedro_ | i only have 1 student now: elopio and he's busy with school at the moment so i might take a couple more | 17:20 |
thekorn | yes, my two mentees vanished :( | 17:20 |
hggdh | this is really not working :-( | 17:21 |
thekorn | it seems I don't have luck with this mentorship program | 17:21 |
pedro_ | btw where's fish? | 17:21 |
pedro_ | i mean vish ;-) | 17:21 |
hggdh | bish? | 17:21 |
jibel | algnod, is there from time to time. online/offline/online/offline/... | 17:21 |
hggdh | during UDS we had agreed on trying a different approach (creating LP teams with some mentors/mentees) | 17:22 |
pedro_ | jibel, is he/she working at all? | 17:22 |
jibel | yes is active | 17:22 |
pedro_ | cool | 17:22 |
jibel | s/is/he is/ | 17:22 |
pedro_ | ;-) | 17:23 |
hggdh | at least that -- one out of 5 so far... | 17:23 |
pedro_ | hggdh, indeed and that's a TODO task :-) | 17:23 |
hggdh | pedro_: OK, cool | 17:23 |
yofel | hggdh: right, as I couldn't make it to UDS, what exactly did you decide on there (about [sense] create a bugsquad-mentor-team-alpha in launchpad with a mailing list, have 2 to 3 members join the team and add mentees to that. Try it for 3 months and report back. Members - brian-murray, hggdh, vish, sense with 8 students: TODO) | 17:23 |
hggdh | yofel: exactly that ;-) | 17:24 |
charlie-tca | yup | 17:24 |
charlie-tca | when will it happen? | 17:24 |
hggdh | we will try this approach (exclusive mentorship is not working), and then see how it behaves | 17:25 |
pedro_ | yofel, the idea is to have a central place where students could ask to different mentors instead of having just one person to ask to | 17:25 |
yofel | ok, so put severaly mentors and studends into a LP team and discuss things over the team ML? | 17:25 |
bdmurray | yofel: yep, | 17:25 |
yofel | ok, sounds useful | 17:25 |
hggdh | yes. Plus IRC (I personally would require it) | 17:25 |
pedro_ | IRC is a requirement, yes | 17:25 |
hggdh | yofel: the idea is to have one explanation hitting all the mentees in a group | 17:26 |
yofel | good idea, agreed | 17:26 |
bdmurray | well and to build a classroom type environment | 17:26 |
hggdh | instead of repeating the same thing ad nauseum for each mentee | 17:26 |
hggdh | yes | 17:26 |
hggdh | hopefully this will spur exchange of ideas and doubts | 17:27 |
hggdh | OK. Anything else on the mentorship? | 17:27 |
hggdh | [TOPIC] Open Discussions | 17:28 |
meetingology | TOPIC: Open Discussions | 17:28 |
hggdh | yofel pointed out at the beginning that the newsletter still has theis meeting at 1800 | 17:28 |
pedro_ | is that the UWN ? | 17:29 |
yofel | yes | 17:29 |
yofel | currently it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/528800/ | 17:29 |
yofel | taken from #217 | 17:30 |
pedro_ | they are probably grabbing that from the fridge | 17:30 |
pedro_ | I'll contact the folks there to have that updated | 17:30 |
yofel | thanks | 17:30 |
pedro_ | thanks for raising it yofel | 17:30 |
yofel | yw | 17:30 |
hggdh | anything else? Anyone? Huh? | 17:31 |
pedro_ | just a quick announcement | 17:31 |
pedro_ | remember we're having a bug day on Thursday 11! | 17:32 |
* kamusin wohoo! | 17:32 | |
pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20101111 | 17:32 |
pedro_ | kamusin and komputes are doing a *extraordinary* work | 17:32 |
hggdh | oh, our old friend, bugs without a package | 17:32 |
komputes | thanks | 17:32 |
pedro_ | kamusin komputes you guys are heroes :-) | 17:33 |
hggdh | I would like to remind all that the Ubuntu Beginners Team would like to draw on our knowledge there | 17:33 |
pedro_ | and as always we're looking for new targets so if you have one, please add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning | 17:34 |
pedro_ | oh good call hggdh :-) | 17:34 |
hggdh | so -- having time, please drop by #ubuntu-beginners-team, and ask how you can help | 17:35 |
yofel | joined, how exactly do they want to help us (or we help them) here? | 17:36 |
charlie-tca | They would be willing to help teach triaging | 17:36 |
hggdh | they also have (or are planning) a triger's class/group/effort. We should probably try to converge/standardise | 17:36 |
hggdh | charlie-tca: heh. You beat me ;-) | 17:36 |
* charlie-tca thought I was missing today | 17:37 | |
yofel | oh, nice to have some more help there, I'll idle around there then :P | 17:37 |
hggdh | thanks yofel. | 17:37 |
charlie-tca | I guess I will too | 17:37 |
* charlie-tca got to report that xchat bug | 17:38 | |
hggdh | BTW -- one thing I noticed is new triagers somehow try to tackle kernel, sound, and X bugs first | 17:38 |
charlie-tca | agreed | 17:38 |
hggdh | how can we tell them this is Not A Good Idea (TM)? | 17:39 |
charlie-tca | They are picking on the hardest bugs they can find to learn with. | 17:39 |
yofel | well, I guess that's since those are usually at the top of the bugs stats lists with the most bug numbers - usually because they're so hard to do | 17:39 |
hggdh | yes. But I always tell folks to start on something (1) simple (2) that they use... somehow I am not successful in passing this over | 17:40 |
bdmurray | recommend that people pick software they like / use a lot | 17:40 |
hggdh | and explicitly recommend they do not get kernel/sound/X? | 17:41 |
yofel | make https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks a bit more useful as a recommendation point? | 17:41 |
hggdh | nice... | 17:42 |
charlie-tca | great! | 17:42 |
hggdh | +1 | 17:42 |
charlie-tca | do we have any place in how to triage or helping with bugs that refers to that page? | 17:42 |
yofel | that page currently just lurks around in the knowledge base without many knowing about It I guess | 17:43 |
hggdh | charlie-tca: not to my knowledge | 17:43 |
hggdh | it should be in, I guess | 17:43 |
charlie-tca | Would be nice to see it where it will be used | 17:44 |
yofel | wait, it's not even in the Knowledge base | 17:44 |
* yofel wonders how he found that page in the first place... | 17:44 | |
charlie-tca | heh, one of those neat things you wander into | 17:44 |
yofel | I'll add it there at least | 17:44 |
pedro_ | i've created that page for the UGBJ but i don't remember if i linked it to others... | 17:45 |
pedro_ | bad me | 17:45 |
hggdh | LOL | 17:45 |
hggdh | ok | 17:46 |
yofel | btw. is there *any* convention what goes to 'Bugs/' and what to 'BugSquad/' on the wiki? | 17:46 |
hggdh | any other comments? | 17:46 |
charlie-tca | um, pretty much where ever it lands, I think | 17:46 |
hggdh | there is an effort on consolidating/rewrting/cleaning-up our pages | 17:48 |
bdmurray | team stuff should goto BugSquad and Bugs stuff is generic to bugs | 17:48 |
charlie-tca | Perhaps both sections could be combined. That would cut out a lot of duplication, and make it easier to maintain | 17:48 |
bdmurray | so really the majority of the stuff should be in Bugs | 17:48 |
hggdh | ack | 17:49 |
charlie-tca | If bugsquad is the team that works on bugs, why are they separate in the wiki? | 17:49 |
yofel | k | 17:49 |
hggdh | because you do not need to be in bugsquad to triage | 17:49 |
bdmurray | charlie-tca: BugSquad stuff would be stuff like meetings, how to join etc | 17:49 |
charlie-tca | okay | 17:50 |
bdmurray | developers might read Bugs stuff and not be interested in the BugSquad | 17:50 |
bdmurray | which is their loss ;-) | 17:50 |
charlie-tca | and yet we make them bugcontrol? | 17:50 |
hggdh | yes -- for *some* teams, not all | 17:50 |
hggdh | like core-devs | 17:51 |
SpamapS | I've always felt that bugsquad is the team charged with doing the obvious triage work so that devs can focus on the hard stuff. | 17:51 |
yofel | well, they should read status, importance and other things, which is under bugs/ and doesn't have much to do with the team | 17:51 |
micahg | hggdh: all ubuntu-devs are member of bug-control | 17:51 |
hggdh | micahg: yes. But not *all* dev teams | 17:52 |
charlie-tca | but that doesn't mean they read/know any of the procedures bug-control non-devs must follow | 17:52 |
hggdh | the reasoning was (at the time, IIRC, bdmurray may correct me ;-) if they are already ubuntu-devs/core-devs, they *know* what to do | 17:52 |
hggdh | and they are still expected to abide by the rules | 17:53 |
bdmurray | and have signed the CoC etc... | 17:53 |
hggdh | we do accept new teams for -control (but none have applied so far) | 17:54 |
hggdh | but the teams must be moderated/restricted and CoC is a requirement | 17:55 |
bdmurray | Are we good with this topic? | 17:55 |
charlie-tca | sure | 17:55 |
hggdh | I think so | 17:55 |
hggdh | as such | 17:55 |
hggdh | #endmeeting | 17:55 |
meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Nov 9 17:55:48 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4) | 17:55 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-bugs/2010/ubuntu-bugs.2010-11-09-17.02.moin.txt | 17:55 |
hggdh | thank you all | 17:55 |
* hggdh goes for the next meeting | 17:56 | |
charlie-tca | hggdh: Thanks for chairing | 17:56 |
pedro_ | thank you hggdh | 17:56 |
kamusin | thanks | 17:57 |
yofel | thanks | 17:57 |
bdmurray | jcastro: what is nux? I can't seem to find it | 18:01 |
jcastro | bdmurray: it's some library that will be there eventually | 18:05 |
bdmurray | jcastro: ah okay | 18:06 |
bdmurray | jcastro: and compiz-plugins-main will be an new package too? | 18:07 |
jcastro | bdmurray: when it all lands I can double check each one, just getting them started would be best | 18:07 |
jcastro | yeah, probably | 18:07 |
bdmurray | jcastro: okay | 18:08 |
jcastro | bdmurray: I suspect the bug numbers will all be skewed for the first week since they're rewriting the buggy parts but I figure it's best to get them going now | 18:10 |
jcastro | bdmurray: out of curiosity do you just add packages to a list or is it there more to it than that? | 18:27 |
bdmurray | jcastro: one list and then classify them by category in a different list | 18:28 |
jcastro | ah | 18:29 |
jcastro | and measuring the bitesize tag? Will that be a problem? | 18:29 |
bdmurray | there would be some more work involved so I'll look at it later | 18:30 |
* jcastro nods | 18:30 | |
jcastro | bdmurray: so basically, the bug people triaging unity bugs will determine if anything is bitesize, and then I'm going to start a drive around getting new contributors interested in bitesize bugs | 18:30 |
jcastro | it'll likely be modelled in a gnome-love/papercut like manner | 18:31 |
jcastro | so any way I can measure successes with bugs with those tags would help me out | 18:31 |
flipefr | hi everyone | 18:49 |
flipefr | can anybody take a look at the bug 670592 | 18:49 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 670592 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashes when screensaver activates (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670592 | 18:49 |
pedro_ | flipefr, a backtrace is needed, could you ask the reporter to enable apport and submit a new report? | 18:50 |
pedro_ | flipefr, there's a stock response for that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Missing%20a%20crash%20report%20or%20having%20a%20.crash%20attachment | 18:51 |
flipefr | pedro_, ok | 18:51 |
pedro_ | btw , you can close the bug after asking for the new one | 18:52 |
pedro_ | thank you flipefr | 18:52 |
flipefr | pedro_, how can i close the bug? | 18:54 |
pedro_ | flipefr, just set it to Invalid | 18:54 |
pedro_ | to bug is no use without a backtrace anyways | 18:55 |
flipefr | ok | 18:55 |
flipefr | done | 18:55 |
yofel | does anyone mind if I rewrite that response a bit? the !gnome invocation instructions are just wrong | 18:59 |
pedro_ | yofel, feel free to edit it | 19:00 |
* yofel gets to work | 19:00 | |
pedro_ | but the wiki seems down to me now | 19:00 |
yofel | I need to make a draft anyway first | 19:00 |
pedro_ | is working again | 19:01 |
yofel | any xubuntu user here? can't you open a crash report in thunar with a double click? | 19:03 |
* micahg uses Xubuntu | 19:04 | |
charlie-tca | let's see | 19:04 |
charlie-tca | sure I can. | 19:05 |
charlie-tca | in Xubuntu 10.04 | 19:05 |
micahg | yofel: if the crash is owned by the user, yes | 19:05 |
yofel | charlie-tca, micahg: thanks | 19:05 |
charlie-tca | that's correct | 19:05 |
charlie-tca | if owned by root, it errors | 19:06 |
yofel | same goes for gnome and kde | 19:06 |
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