[09:49] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:51] <slashtom> hey
[09:51] <czajkowski> hows you
[09:52] <slashtom> grand, how's life in England?
[09:52] <czajkowski> good thanks
[09:52] <czajkowski> settling in well
[09:52] <czajkowski> few hiccups like trying to get a NI number has been entertaining
[09:52] <czajkowski> still house hunting
[09:58] <slashtom> in last company, when we hired a guy from poland it was fine... just waited a couple of months for the NI number
[10:00] <czajkowski> aye
[10:00] <czajkowski> months is the issue
[10:11] <slashtom> you would probably also need to get onto HMRC and get your tax code sorted
[10:15] <czajkowski> nds
[10:22] <fagan> I got an internship :)
[10:22] <czajkowski> where..
[10:22] <fagan> *guess*
[10:23] <fagan> all I have to do is get my collge to sign off on it
[10:24] <fagan> I asked Mark about it and he said ok
[10:24] <czajkowski> roflol
[10:24] <czajkowski> yer kidding
[10:24] <fagan> Ill be doing things with unity
[10:24] <czajkowski> ok
[10:25] <fagan> He was very cool about it all and he asked me a few questions and put me in touch with who I needed to talk to
[10:25] <czajkowski> that's nice
[10:26] <fagan> hows the job going czajkowski
[10:27] <czajkowski> good thanks
[10:34] <czajkowski> hmm
[10:35] <czajkowski> whats the link to the ie etherpad
[10:58] <tdr112> hey cztab
[10:58] <czajkowski> hows you
[10:58] <czajkowski> college going well
[10:58] <tdr112> yep , not too bad
[10:59] <czajkowski> excellent
[10:59] <tdr112> from what i read you had a good first day
[10:59] <ebel> yo yo
[10:59] <czajkowski> yup
[10:59] <czajkowski> loving it
[10:59] <ebel> czajkowski: http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/ ?
[11:00] <czajkowski> thanks
[11:00] <tdr112> http://pad.ubuntu-ie.org/
[11:01] <tdr112> feck ebel got there before me
[11:03] <popey> congrats fagan
[11:04] <tdr112> fagan: will you be doing it from home ?
[11:04] <fagan> tdr112: yep
[11:04] <fagan> popey: thanks :)
[11:05] <tdr112> fagan: nice
[11:06] <fagan> tdr112: yeah im glad I dont have to move from carlow. Rent everywhere is rotten. I pay 65 a week in rent which is nothing
[11:06] <fagan> and home is comfortable
[11:07] <tdr112> can you stay there for the summer too
[11:07] <fagan> yeah and my landlord drops the rent too for the summer
[11:07] <fagan> by 5 euro
[11:07] <fagan> :)
[11:07] <tdr112> then your sorted
[11:07] <fagan> yeah so other than food its all profit
[11:08] <czajkowski> rent for summer in castletroy is €30
[11:08] <fagan> holy crap thats cheap
[11:09] <czajkowski> yes
[11:09] <fagan> Well mine is 60 but I get UPC broadband and TV for free with it and bills too
[11:09] <czajkowski> rent during year is only €79 for a double room en suite in most places
[11:09] <fagan> during the summer
[11:09] <czajkowski> no
[11:09] <czajkowski> college year
[11:10] <fagan> I meant that as a continuation of my other sentance
[11:10] <czajkowski> yeah so is the 79
[11:11] <ebel> fagan: there has been a massive property crash. loads of places to rent
[11:11] <fagan> yeah
[11:11] <ebel> tis great :)
[11:11] <fagan> it helps so much
[11:11] <ebel> anyways congrats on the internship
[11:11] <fagan> my landlord had to drop my rent twice the past 2 years
[11:12] <fagan> thanls ebel
[11:12] <ebel> fagan: you do stuff with this ubuntu app store thingie, yeah?
[11:12] <fagan> ebel: na im probably doing something with unity doing unit tests and bug fixing
[11:12] <ebel> any idea if/when you'll be able to charge for apps on it?
[11:13] <ebel> oh i don't mean for the internship, i saw your name on the app review board team list or something
[11:13] <czajkowski> ebel: there is one app in there at present you can buy
[11:13] <fagan> ebel: na all the app review board does is release small apps post release
[11:14] <fagan> ebel: the store is canonical itself there is no board or anything there
[11:14] <ebel> ah ok.
[11:14] <fagan> id say there is some % that they charge for putting apps in there
[11:14] <ebel> Can people sell apps on it? *ahem* Is it available to more than white prodestants? :P
[11:15] <fagan> ebel: you just have to talk to em who is again
[11:15] <fagan> hmmm
[11:15]  * fagan checks 
[11:16] <fagan> ebel: I cant find who it is but mpt can point you to who it is
[11:16] <fagan> they package it up and all for you too
[11:17] <ebel> Ah it's not urgent, i'm just curious.
[11:17] <czajkowski> hmm
[11:17] <czajkowski> whatcha up to ebel
[11:18] <ebel> Twould be cool to get some of the buzz for 'make millions on the iphone/android app store' for ubuntu.
[11:18] <fagan> I remember hearing that they are cool with you making a little program and charge a dollar for it
[11:18] <fagan> so they do allow all of those little things too
[11:19] <fagan> ebel: we had a load of sessions about getting that kind of thing going in the UDS
[11:20] <fagan> It would be really cool if there was some automated process like the android marketplace or the app store
[11:20] <fagan> but its not there yet
[11:21] <czajkowski> so anyone going to the mark talk next week in dublin
[11:22] <tdr112> yep
[11:22] <ebel> You'd need an apt repo that people needed to put passwords into (possible with http://username:password@example.com/...)
[11:22] <fagan> I didnt even have a clue that it was on
[11:22] <tdr112> ebel: have we any cd left that i could bring along
[11:22] <ebel> then a serve side system to manage payments & uploads
[11:22] <ebel> tdr112: yeah we have ~ 15 left
[11:23] <ebel> czajkowski: can't go, work :P
[11:23] <ebel> :(
[11:23] <tdr112> i could bring them and that stand you left in tog
[11:23] <tdr112> maybe
[11:24] <fagan> ebel: well the payments and uploads thing would be handled just like the android store id say where everything is uploaded and if its bad flag it and ban the author
[11:24] <fagan> the payment system is ubuntu pay which is up now
[11:24] <fagan> but its very bad
[11:24] <czajkowski> fagan: how did you miss that.. it's been blogged and mailed to a lot of lists, might be in your interest to go
[11:24] <ebel> tdr112: sure. I have another little 'cd holder' from the last one
[11:24] <czajkowski> tdr112: can you post my blog post to the IE list please re the event happening
[11:24] <fagan> czajkowski: yeah I havent been looking the past 2 days
[11:24] <ebel> actually i fouind ~ 5 or 10 10.04 cds left :P
[11:25] <czajkowski> fagan: this is about a month old
[11:25] <fagan> czajkowski: or maybe I just forgot
[11:25] <czajkowski> *shrugs*
[11:26] <tdr112> czajkowski: i will send an email to the list about the event and give a link to your blog
[11:26] <czajkowski> tdr112: cheers, can't do it from here
[11:26] <tdr112> ebel: i have been putting in a few 10.04 into the box i give to people
[11:26] <tdr112> to get rid of them
[11:27] <ebel> hehehe
[11:27] <fagan> tdr112: well 10.04 is kinda the one you should be giving to new users
[11:28] <fagan> the normal releases arent really entirely supposed to be suggested as the greatest impression of the desktop
[11:33] <czajkowski> of course they are
[11:35] <popey> LTS for business, non-LTS for everyone else IMO
[11:36] <tdr112> czajkowski: email sent
[11:36] <czajkowski> aye
[11:36] <czajkowski> tdr112: thanks
[11:36] <czajkowski> tdr112: you going ?
[11:36] <tdr112> yep
[11:36] <popey> also ebel we already have the ability to do password protected repos with PPAs in launchpad
[11:36] <fagan> well the protocol for normal releases is to build up for the next LTS releases at least thats how ive always seen it
[11:36] <tdr112> ebel: can you drop in the rest of the cds and the other stand you have
[11:36] <fagan> and as well as password protecting them you can hide them but thats internal I think
[11:37] <ebel> tdr112: into TOG? sure.
[11:37] <ebel> popey: ah cool. :)
[11:37] <tdr112> ebel: yep
[11:37] <czajkowski> fagan: LTS for business so they dont have to worry about udpates, regular versions for folks who arent pushed but can stick to a lts if they want.
[11:37] <ebel> You'd need to have a system so that people can't download the deb until they have paid for the app.
[11:37] <popey> yup, thats not hard to do
[11:38] <popey> i have an app on my system which was bought like that
[11:38] <tdr112> we can only give people the cds we have so it will be a few 10.4 and a few 10.10
[11:38] <popey> they have a key'ed repository, so only poeple who have bought the app can download it
[11:38] <czajkowski> tdr112: do you need more ?
[11:38]  * fagan doesnt have a credit card so couldnt pay for anything in the software center 
[11:38] <czajkowski> I can see if I can get more sent over for the evnet
[11:38] <czajkowski> event
[11:38] <czajkowski> fagan: 3v card
[11:38] <czajkowski> top up
[11:38] <czajkowski> got in many petrol stations
[11:38] <czajkowski> spars
[11:38] <czajkowski> centras
[11:39] <czajkowski> shops
[11:39] <fagan> oh yeah I forgot about those yokes
[11:40] <fagan> it is cool to see https://pay.ubuntu.com/
[11:40] <popey> They only support Amex, Visa, MC, DC, JCB
[11:40] <ebel> popey: oh? interesting. You're basically saying what i want has already been done. linky?
[11:40] <popey> ebel: I know two examples of it
[11:40] <fagan> ebel: yeah its done in the software center for 1.10
[11:40] <popey> ebel: one is the font
[11:40] <fagan> *10.10
[11:40] <ebel> fagan czajkowski  in proper countries they have a debit card that works online. None of this laser rubbish.
[11:41] <fagan> yeah I have a boi laser
[11:41] <czajkowski> ebel: aye mine arrives Saturday ;)
[11:41] <czajkowski> but the 3V card is a MC so I dont see an issue
[11:41] <ebel> thankfully in ireland they are moving away from laser, ulster bank did, boi will
[11:42] <fagan> czajkowski: I thought it was visa rather than MC
[11:42] <tdr112> ebel: yep they are going under
[11:42] <ebel> slashtom had trouble with rubycard.
[11:54] <tdr112> ebel: should start calling himself Timecop
[11:54] <ebel> GAAAAH TIMEZONES!!!!
[11:54]  * ebel has to work around timezones for facebook api
[11:54] <ebel> apparently they may or may not convert to local time in .ca.us. Stupid API
[11:56] <czajkowski> ebel: has issues with Tz
[11:57] <ebel> No, I understand TZs. It's everyone else who either ignores them or does them wrong :P
[11:57] <czajkowski> ebel: have you mailed looking for the free gift for ubuntu-ie
[11:57] <czajkowski> they are going to be sent shortly in batcches
[11:58] <ebel> what's this? the banner? I can't remember...
[11:58] <czajkowski> yes
[11:59] <lau1> we finally got the week end storm last night ...
[11:59] <lau1> hi everyone
[12:08] <ebel> czajkowski: i have emailed requesting a conference pack just now
[12:16] <czajkowski> ebel: to bannerrequest@reponses.net
[12:16] <ebel> czajkowski: yep that's where i sent it
[12:16] <czajkowski> good thanks
[12:17] <ebel> :)
[12:17] <ebel> I put my address down
[12:17] <ebel> Since I have 24/7 concierge, none of this going to the sorting office non-sense
[12:17] <ebel> i'll let ye all know when i get it
[12:18] <czajkowski> coolio
[12:45] <ebel> "The start_time and end_time are the times that were input by the event creator, converted to UTC after assuming that they were in Pacific time (Daylight Savings or Standard, depending on the date of the event), then converted into Unix epoch time."
[12:46] <ebel> that's why I hate when things don't do timezones.
[12:46] <ebel> that is how you add events on a large social network site starting with F
[13:15] <czajkowski> felimwhiteley_: tdr112 is cheeky
[13:16] <tdr112> what now ?
[13:17] <felimwhiteley_> heh the ubuntu ie mail with Cztab..
[13:17] <tdr112> :)
[13:17] <felimwhiteley_> tdr112: you know you can get away with it now she's not about to give you digs :)
[13:22] <tdr112> felimwhiteley_: one of the very small + for her moving to the uk
[13:23] <felimwhiteley_> heh
[14:34] <Belserusk> Anyone else have trouble playing mame games in Ubuntu 10.10
[14:34] <Belserusk> ?
[14:35] <tdr112> ebel: i am getting cd shipped no need to drop the other ones in
[14:36] <ebel> tdr112: oh cool. from shipit?
[14:37] <tdr112> yep czajkowski sorted it out
[14:38] <ebel> cool
[16:46] <czajkowski> :)
[16:46] <czajkowski> I have a use
[16:52] <lau1> are you in the uk czajkowski ? 
[16:53] <czajkowski> I am indeed
[16:54] <lau1> http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurentcgeo/5161585806/in/photostream/#/photos/laurentcgeo/5160977641/in/photostream/lightbox/ this morning in North dublin (so you don't miss it to much) ;)
[16:54] <czajkowski> pretty
[16:54] <lau1> :D
[16:55] <lau1> went after lunch for high tide splash I will add a few later to the album
[16:56] <lau1> there was a mad bloke attemting to surf to :p