| bobby__ | Updated FF4 browser, XULRunner 2.0 still won't upgrade | 00:05 |
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| chrisccoulson | bobby__, you need to wait for the builds to next run | 00:10 |
| bobby__ | :(, when will that be? | 00:10 |
| chrisccoulson | in the next few hours | 00:11 |
| bobby__ | :( | 00:11 |
| bobby__ | No, I'll be fine, really | 00:11 |
| bobby__ | Anyway, thats fine, it still works :D | 00:12 |
| chrisccoulson | cool | 00:12 |
| bobby__ | ah dang it, Flash is crashing now | 00:12 |
| chrisccoulson | these are daily builds, so things will break from time to time ;) | 00:12 |
| chrisccoulson | (and at this stage, whilst we're getting things ready for natty, expect things to breka frequently) | 00:13 |
| bobby__ | Well, I'm using 10.2 Square preview... But its never crashed before this actually... | 00:13 |
| bobby__ | But if it IS your fault, then... Well... Yeah... | 00:15 |
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| === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (Chromium too!): | Natty Mozilla Daily builds w/PIE are broke (see LP: #663294) http://pad.lv/663294 | No updates in http://is.gd/dsudW need testing | Firefox 3.6.12 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1.x Now in Maverick/Daily PPA, Coming to Stable PPA Soon | Firefox 4.0 Beta PPA http://is.gd/f6TM4 | Report Mozilla PPA bugs here: http://is.gd/dPML | ||
| chrisccoulson | hi asac, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/ubufox/ff-4.0/+merge/40373 :) | 11:51 |
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| BUGabundo | Unable to open URL | 15:42 |
| BUGabundo | Error launching "xdg-open 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805327'": Failed to fork (Cannot allocate memory) | 15:42 |
| BUGabundo | fta: need a way to limit chromium ram... it mem leaks and kills my system :( | 15:51 |
| fta | BUGabundo, well, limit/ulimit but not sure it will work | 15:52 |
| fta | haven't tried that in ~15y | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo | now running in GDB | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo | but that uses even more RAM :( | 15:53 |
| Dimmuxx | buy more ram ;) | 15:54 |
| BUGabundo | 4GB not enough to run ONE browser and 4 tabs? | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo | damn it | 15:55 |
| Dimmuxx | depends on the browser | 15:55 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: are we planning on installing mozjs in /usr/lib or will it just be a separate package? | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not sure. one idea from UDS was to install a versioned libmozjs in /usr/lib (separate package) and have a non-versioned libmozjs symlink in the usual place (so that our toolkit remains ABI compatible with the official builds) | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | we're really going to be under pressure to drop xulrunner off the CD this cycle | 15:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: hmmm, I was hoping we could get an accessible webkit :-/ | 16:05 |
| fta | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/popcon-20101109-pct.png | 16:17 |
| micahg | fta: congrats | 16:18 |
| fta | :) | 16:18 |
| fta | that's almost a million users for chromium | 16:21 |
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| fta | with the rest of the pack: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/popcon-20101109-pct2.png | 17:01 |
| jcastro | fta: surely the numbers for epiphany are wrong? | 17:50 |
| jcastro | I mean, don't get me wrong, I like it, but I can't believe there's that many users? | 17:50 |
| fta | jcastro, i assume it was installed by default a long time ago or something | 17:51 |
| micahg | jcastro: depends which column in popcon he's using, popcon is historical | 17:51 |
| fta | installed | 17:51 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/528798/ | 17:51 |
| jcastro | fta: maybe gnome dev packages bring it in? | 17:52 |
| jcastro | either that or it's everyone's naughty browser. :p | 17:52 |
| BUGabundo | :o | 17:53 |
| BUGabundo | private browsing would be easier | 17:53 |
| fta | jcastro, it's falling fast. at this trend, in 4~6 months, chromium should eat it | 17:54 |
| jcastro | BUGabundo: not if you want to keep bookmarks/history/etc. | 17:54 |
| fta | and 12 months for konq | 17:55 |
| jcastro | not like I would know *whistles* | 17:55 |
| jcastro | fta: yeah it just seems like it would have long surpassed it by now | 17:55 |
| fta | jcastro, jdstrand: so much for debian/fedora and their all-system-libs browsers: http://spectralhole.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-you-dont-want-to-build-you-chromium.html | 18:00 |
| jdstrand | heh | 18:01 |
| fta | oh, nice (if you have a 7" ereader and want to read magazines): http://www.pdfscissors.com/ | 18:38 |
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| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - was it you who mentioned about dropping the update-notifier hook? | 21:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i'm sure somebody talked to me at UDS about it, but i can't remember ;) | 21:23 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I think I might have mentioned it | 21:23 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: I saw you did it, but if ubufox goes away, we'll have issues | 21:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i don't think it will go away just yet ;) | 21:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | the notification area will go away before ubufox ;) | 21:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: ok | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson_ | and i think we were pretty much the only people using that mechanism in update-notifier anyway | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson_ | and that dialog was hideous ;) | 21:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: are we looking at a consistent path as well this cycle? | 21:24 |
| micahg | then we can get rid of the restart notification completelu | 21:25 |
| micahg | *completely | 21:25 |
| chrisccoulson_ | not sure yet, but we'd still need to keep it around anyway, as FF would still break if files are renamed etc | 21:25 |
| chrisccoulson_ | so we'd at least need it for the major version upgrade case | 21:26 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: that shouldn't be happening during point releases | 21:26 |
| micahg | right | 21:26 |
| micahg | I would almost prefer having people close Firefox or deferring the update in those cases rather than having the restart notification | 21:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | well, the second case might happen anyway. that's something i talked about with mvo at UDS | 21:27 |
| chrisccoulson_ | but we'd still want a way to tell users that they need to close firefox for the upgrade to complete | 21:28 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: the same way any other package needs input on updates? (debconf) | 21:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | no debconf, that's horrible ;) | 21:28 |
| chrisccoulson_ | mvo suggested adding a new field to debian/control that would tell u-m to defer unpacking the package | 21:29 |
| chrisccoulson_ | we'd then have some magic in our launcher script to trigger the upgrade, and tell the user to restart the browser when an update is ready | 21:29 |
| chrisccoulson_ | then the update would happen as the browser restarts | 21:29 |
| chrisccoulson_ | that's only one idea though | 21:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: that would be cool and mirror upstream behaviour | 21:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i need to talk to mvo when i get the chance though to flesh out the exact details | 21:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | but i think something like that could work | 21:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: the only issue I can think of is policykit access to the package installation | 21:30 |
| chrisccoulson_ | that's what aptdaemon is for :) | 21:31 |
| chrisccoulson_ | oh, yeah, actually | 21:31 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i see what you mean | 21:31 |
| chrisccoulson_ | we wouldn't want a second auth dialog to appear | 21:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: right | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | yet another crash | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | stupid chromium mem leaks :( | 21:33 |
| fta | BUGabundo, you might want to have a look at your mapping file to see what's leaking | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | how? | 21:34 |
| fta | in the apport report | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | its a system freeze | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | nothing logged | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | most of the times not even chromium restore | 21:35 |
| fta | hm | 21:35 |
| fta | anything relevant in dmesg? | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | $ pastebinit /var/log/dmesg.0 | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/528925/ | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | nothing I see | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | nothing in syslog.1 either | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | ill tee gdb to file or something | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | how do I make chromium more verbose again? | 21:39 |
| fta | do you have a bug for that in lp? | 21:42 |
| fta | or upstream? | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | not yet | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | nothing to report | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | not even reproducivle | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | sometimes with no change in pages it just goes crazy | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | but most of the times its when openning a new one | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | tried to disable a few addons, but nothing changed | 21:46 |
| fta | do you even know which process goes crazy? | 21:47 |
| fta | about:memory | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | I can't do anyting on my laptop | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | I'm forced to power cycle | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | it uses all my ram | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | no swap (ssd) | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | REISUB and reboot | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | 1 window, 5 tabs | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | two from gmail using the most RAM | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | 230 and 180MBs | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | Private Proportional | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | Chromium | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | 1,277,864k100,354k | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | that's *a lot* of ram | 21:50 |
| fta | none of my 25 tabs uses more than 50M | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | let me launch a brand new profile | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | and reproduce same tabs | 21:52 |
| fta | open the ch task manager and keep it visible | 21:52 |
| fta | shift + esc | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | I do | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | flash is using 200MBs | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | seesmic 76 | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | and all other under 50MBs | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | Chromium 306,636k | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | way less total ram | 21:57 |
| fta | that's with a --temp-profile? | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | turning off most of my addons | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | and restarting | 21:59 |
| BUGabundo | lets see if that makes a diff in mem usage | 21:59 |
| BUGabundo | fta: ahahaah its not freeing the process | 22:00 |
| BUGabundo | I started it in gdb and it aiting closign | 22:00 |
| BUGabundo | 1000 2979 0.0 0.0 4148 576 pts/2 S 21:31 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/chromium-browser -g | 22:01 |
| BUGabundo | 1000 2982 1.3 13.0 779248 528844 pts/2 S 21:31 0:24 /usr/bin/gdb /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser -x /tmp/chromiumargs.5X9aW5 | 22:01 |
| BUGabundo | fta: ctrl+c aint working either | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | :O | 22:04 |
| fta | hm, looks like the accelerated-compositing bug. thought it was disabled for now | 22:04 |
| fta | try --disable-accelerated-compositing | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | kill aint working either | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | sending -9 | 22:04 |
| fta | is still have that in my /etc/chromium-browser/default | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | that did it | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | 104,052k on start | 22:05 |
| jlebar | Hey, guys. Just a heads up: We're planning to switch the Mozilla nightly builds to gcc 4.5 tomorrow. | 22:05 |
| jlebar | We're seeing pretty substantial perf wins with gcc 4.5 plus -O3. | 22:06 |
| micahg | jlebar: thanks for the heads up, is this for Firefox only or comm-central as well? | 22:07 |
| jlebar | micahg, Just Firefox right now. | 22:08 |
| micahg | jlebar: ok | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | [10427:10427:2149079486:ERROR:base/native_library_linux.cc(28)] dlopen failed when trying to open libGLESv2.so: libGLESv2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | [10342:10357:2221656145:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_protocols.cc(134)] Denying load of chrome-extension://edacconmaakjimmfgnblocblbcdcpbko/favicon.ico from about:blank because the extension does not have access to the requesting page. | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | fta: turning that flag on is messing one add on | 22:08 |
| fta | Session Buddy? that has nothing to do with accelerated hw | 22:11 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jlebar, might want to take a look at bug 663294 ;) | 22:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 663294 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu) "Firefox built with gcc-4.5 is a non-starter on i386 with -pie (affects: 3) (heat: 182)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663294 | 22:13 |
| chrisccoulson_ | although, i guess that doesn't really affect your builds | 22:13 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: have you decided what you want to do about beta 7 re natty yet? | 22:14 |
| jlebar | chrisccoulson_, I believe we build with a patched gcc-4.5. I'm not sure what the patch fixes, but maybe it's that. :) | 22:14 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - upload as soon as all the major bits are ready (those being ubufox and translations) | 22:15 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: ok, should I go ahead and upload to the PPA this weekend then or should I wait for you to upload to Natty? | 22:15 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jlebar, it's not the patch for this is it? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594611 | 22:16 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 594611 in js-ctypes "jsctypes busted on linux with gcc 4.5" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson_ | oh | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson_ | wrong link | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson_ | d'oh | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jlebar, i meant http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45623 ;) | 22:16 |
| ubot2 | gcc.gnu.org bug 45623 in tree-optimization "[4.5 Regression] GCC 4.5.[01] breaks our ffi on Linux64. ABI break?" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - we should probably wait first | 22:17 |
| jlebar | chrisccoulson_, that's probably it, yes. | 22:17 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: ok, any idea how long, I'll add a note to the /topic | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | fta: what's "Signature verification failed" ? | 22:17 |
| micahg | release is tomorrow barring any respins | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | when trying to install an addon? | 22:17 |
| jlebar | Well, I hope you guys get the -pie thing fixed so you can get this speedup. | 22:17 |
| jlebar | it's really quite nice. :) | 22:17 |
| chrisccoulson_ | jlebar, i just disabled -pie on our builds ;) | 22:18 |
| chrisccoulson_ | but that's not a long term solution for us | 22:18 |
| fta | BUGabundo, either your addons is busted, or the api changed and you need to re-install it | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | I'm doing it now | 22:18 |
| fta | -s | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | and when I tried it showed that | 22:18 |
| jlebar | haha, I see. | 22:19 |
| * micahg wonders if hardening-wrapper needs a rebuild | 22:20 | |
| BUGabundo | fta: reporting to lastpass dev team | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | I guess soemthing changed | 22:21 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg, i don't think so, it's just a perl script | 22:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: why is it arch specific then? | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson_ | micahg - not sure about that | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | fta: fyi since I removed that app, and enabled --disable-accelerated-compositing it seems better | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | could be a bad addon | 22:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson_: maybe for the test suite | 22:40 |
| fta | BUGabundo, most probably the flag | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | [12531:12531:2876911258:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_error_reporter.cc(55)] Extension error: Signature verification failed | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | [12531:12949:2884052311:ERROR:net/base/x509_certificate_nss.cc(564)] No EV Policy Tag | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | [12531:12531:2884503862:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_error_reporter.cc(55)] Extension error: Signature verification failed | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | [12531:12531:3009553900:ERROR:chrome/browser/extensions/extension_error_reporter.cc(55)] Extension error: Could not open crx file for reading | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | seeing a few more in the logs | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | I guess a lot changed in todays build | 22:43 |
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