[00:00] <itnet7> and the PM too
[00:00] <itnet7> wierd
[00:00] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: cool what's the script again?
[00:00] <itnet7> let me see which one I'm using
[00:00] <RoAkSoAx> ok
[00:00] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but it is remotely right?
[00:01] <itnet7> yes, I'm ssh'd into my server and attached to a byobu/screen/irssi session
[00:02] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: cool... pass me the script!!
[00:02] <RoAkSoAx> :)
[00:02] <itnet7> will do trying to narrow down if I added it to auto load, as I just rebooted the machine
[00:02] <itnet7> ran byobu, screen, irrsi
[00:03] <itnet7> and it just worked
[00:03] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: it probably is that bug that only loads static modules when starting irssi
[00:03] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: pass the script to test it out :)
[00:04] <itnet7> trying to remember the dcc comman
[00:04] <itnet7> d
[00:04] <govatent> i need to get irssi setup on my nslu2 one of these days
[00:04] <itnet7> I can send it to you through e-mail
[00:05] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: sure ;)
[00:05]  * RoAkSoAx really needs a notification script through ssh
[00:06] <Chloric> BRB, just text me govatent
[00:06] <Chloric> gonna go to tiger reall quick
[00:07] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: I have this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/528440 in a file called notify.pl
[00:07] <itnet7> and it's added to the autorun folder, not where it says at the beginning of the script
[00:07] <itnet7> my nicklist is finally working too
[00:08] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: then it is because of that bug
[00:08] <govatent> hey itnet7 i got an idea 
[00:08] <govatent> it might be doable and useful 
[00:08] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: yeah
[00:08] <itnet7> govatent: ?
[00:09] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: brb
[00:09] <govatent> can you make notifications send an email to which you can make it sms your phone so you know when someone is looking for you ?
[00:09] <itnet7> govatent: I am sure you can
[00:09] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test
[00:09] <govatent> such as with tmobile i can sms my phone by sending an email to 954554****@tmomail.net
[00:09] <govatent> hum....
[00:09] <govatent> i want to try this 
[00:10] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: nothing, doers it need to be executable ? yes right?
[00:10] <govatent> do you think irssi would be a hog on the cpu of the nslu2?
[00:10] <itnet7> pretty sure let me doublecheck
[00:10] <itnet7> Yeah, it's marked executable
[00:11] <itnet7> govatent: I doubt it would a hog on anything
[00:11] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test2
[00:12] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: nothing, but got this though: 19:12 /bin/sh: notify-send: not found
[00:13] <RoAkSoAx> what's the package that includes that binary?
[00:13] <itnet7> I forgot the command in irssi to see running scripts
[00:13] <govatent> i installed irssi on my box now its time to learn to use it
[00:14] <itnet7> libnotify-bin?
[00:16] <RoAkSoAx> yesy
[00:16] <itnet7> it's working??
[00:16] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test
[00:19] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: testing 1,23
[00:19] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: nothing now and error from dbus, so the server needs to have desktop?
[00:19] <RoAkSoAx> or X11?
[00:20] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: Yeah, unfortunately
[00:20] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: oh... that;s why then it wont work
[00:20] <RoAkSoAx> so I'm running a VPS here so it is useless to have a desktop
[00:20] <itnet7> yeah
[00:22] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: so how does this works?? with ssh sends a message through dbus?
[00:25] <itnet7> Yes, but it uses x forwarding, and uses your accounts .xauthority to allow it
[00:26] <RoAkSoAx> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:26] <itnet7> You may not need a full desktop
[00:26] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: i wonder how can we forward a command through SSH
[00:27] <itnet7> So, like, have it still use the notify-osd on the desktop your accessing the screen session remotely without forwarding X itself?
[00:28] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: oh do I need to use port forwarding?? -X ?
[00:28] <itnet7> That is what I'm using
[00:28] <itnet7> -X
[00:28] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[00:28] <RoAkSoAx> let's see
[00:29] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: but got this error: libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[00:29] <RoAkSoAx> brbr
[00:31] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: any better?
[00:32] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: same error
[00:33] <itnet7> ah... hold on I'm checking some stuff too
[00:33] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: it's prolly something with Xen
[00:33] <RoAkSoAx> let me reboot
[00:33] <RoAkSoAx> vps
[00:33] <itnet7> cool
[00:34] <govatent> does anyone actually use lynx these days? i do just seeing if i am the only one
[00:34] <jtatum> no way govatent. elinks all the way
[00:35] <itnet7> lol
[00:36] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: test
[00:36] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: same error.. dbus error.. so it is either because there's no desktop or because there's a bug in dbus
[00:37] <RoAkSoAx> or even prolly with 
[00:37] <RoAkSoAx> Xern
[00:37] <RoAkSoAx> Xen Vm's
[00:37] <itnet7> different, but similar issue: http://code.google.com/p/acpi-eeepc-generic/issues/detail?id=47
[00:38] <govatent> elinks?
[00:38] <jtatum> it's like lynx but supports javascript, frames, tabs and css
[00:38] <govatent> cool
[00:38] <govatent> installing it right now
[00:39] <itnet7> besides links2 is better than standard links govatent !
[00:39] <itnet7> shows images as well as txt
[00:40] <itnet7> thanks jtatum gonna check out elinks... possibly that will allow me to administrate my router
[00:40] <itnet7> from cli
[00:40] <itnet7> :-)
[00:40] <jtatum> cool :) hope so
[00:41] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: yea well it is gdm related apparently
[00:43] <itnet7> I know that I had an issue when first trying to do it, when I would try and ssh as a different user than what I had started the session with
[00:49] <govatent> i got 2 new users switched to ubuntu this weekend 
[00:49] <govatent> and they are so happy 
[00:49] <govatent> their old pcs work 100 times better speed wise with firefox and the other apps they used 
[00:50] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: is theis what you used to use? https://wiki.koumbit.net/Irssi
[00:51] <itnet7> govatent: did you ever get that one guys machine working with the ATI sli?
[00:51] <govatent> nope
[00:51] <govatent> he is still on windows
[00:51] <itnet7> Did he try removing one of the cards?
[00:51] <govatent> not yet
[00:52] <govatent> have not talked to him yet 
[00:52] <govatent> he has a massive case and those cards are a pain to deal with because they are huge 
[00:52] <dorgan> chaynie_work: ping
[00:52] <govatent> i have another pending problem with 10.10 on a laptop sitting in my house for a friend and an intel card
[00:52] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: prolly ill take a look at it later
[00:55] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: u did that?
[00:55] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: No, but after reading it, I thought it may work for you without a desktop
[00:55] <dorgan> mhall119: you around?
[00:55] <mhall119> yep
[00:56] <itnet7> and it's kind of a current article
[00:58] <govatent> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[00:58] <govatent> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[00:58] <govatent> any word on this card with 10.10
[00:58] <govatent> its from a dell laptop 
[00:58] <itnet7> This setup is also cool: https://wiki.koumbit.net/ScyrmAa/IrssiProxy
[00:58] <govatent> other than the gpu everything works fine
[00:59] <itnet7> govatent: not sure what you're asking
[00:59] <itnet7> jinjianxin: hey there!
[00:59] <mhall119> dorgan: pong
[00:59] <itnet7> you mean 3d for that card?
[00:59] <govatent> i cant seem to make it work right. its suck at 800x600 and i think all video acceleration does not work
[01:00] <dorgan> mhall119: I know you said you werent going to Sencha Conf...but someone else from this channel said they may be going....do you remember who?
[01:01] <mhall119> um, you
[01:01] <dorgan> there was someone else....lol
[01:01] <mhall119> I don't remember anyone else
[01:01] <dorgan> I said I was def going...but someone else said they might be going
[01:01] <dorgan> ahh ok
[01:02] <mhall119> dantalizing maybe?
[01:02] <itnet7> govatent: you can try this: http://tinyurl.com/2esvnb8
[01:02] <mhall119> though I think he's going to be out of country then
[01:02] <govatent> thank you itnet7 ill try that right away tonight
[01:02] <govatent> i only tried google for a few seconds
[01:03] <dorgan> yeah maybe that was it
[01:03] <dorgan> dantalizing: you around?
[01:03] <itnet7> There is a part there where you set resolutions, be careful not to put any that are too high for the laptop
[01:03] <govatent> will do
[01:03] <itnet7> otherwise you'll suffer like the last guy
[01:03] <itnet7> it's fixable, but it will be a pain in the keister
[01:04] <govatent> lol
[01:04] <dorgan> itnet7: doesnt the latest version default to an default X config if display is messed up now?
[01:04] <dorgan> and you can rest the settings?
[01:06] <Spreadsheet_> Hello
[01:06] <itnet7> dorgan: apparently not for every video card/mode. The last guys comments kind of point to that not being the case
[01:06] <Chloric> back
[01:06] <itnet7> hey there Spreadsheet_ 
[01:06] <dorgan> ahh
[01:06] <Spreadsheet_> I'm moving to FL
[01:07] <itnet7> I thought they would too
[01:07] <itnet7> Sweet! Spreadsheet_ 
[01:07] <mhall119> Spreadsheet_: \o/ where from?
[01:07] <Spreadsheet_> So I want to know if any of you know of a good ISP that lets you host servers
[01:07] <mhall119> and to where
[01:07] <Spreadsheet_> Around Ft. Lauderdale
[01:07] <Spreadsheet_> From Indiana to Ft. Lauderdale
[01:07] <govatent> hey Spreadsheet_ 
[01:07] <itnet7> Oh, cool!
[01:07] <Chloric> wow, thats close
[01:07] <govatent> welcome!!!
[01:07] <mhall119> Spreadsheet_: you mean co-located hosting?
[01:07] <govatent> my side of town
[01:07] <MichelleQ1> welcome to florida, Spreadsheet_!
[01:08] <Spreadsheet_> Thanks for the welcome
[01:08] <Spreadsheet_> mhall119: most ISPs block incoming connections to your own computer
[01:08] <Spreadsheet_> If I were to host a server, I would want to have my own computer be the server
[01:08] <mhall119> Spreadsheet_: oh, I understand now
[01:09] <govatent> and no. most home grade isps here dont allow hosting unless its your personal server they have it against tos. comcast or att are the only options as far as i know in my area
[01:09] <mhall119> the major ISPs will allow it if you purchase a "business" service
[01:09] <govatent> but with the isps in fort laduerdale none block incoming incoming connections 
[01:09] <govatent> they dont take kindly though to massive bandwidth on the uploads 
[01:10] <govatent> unless you get a business grade plan 
[01:10] <Spreadsheet_> Ok
[01:10] <mhall119> most residential service has terrible upload bandwidth too
[01:10] <govatent> not really kind of 
[01:10] <Spreadsheet_> What about Speakeasy? Has anyone tried that?
[01:10] <govatent> comcast offers up to 10 mbps i think 
[01:10] <mhall119> business service gives you symetric bandwidth and usually some service guarantees
[01:10] <Spreadsheet_> I haven't heard good things about either comcast or att so I will try to avoid those
[01:10] <govatent> not really 
[01:10] <govatent> at least cable/dsl business that i know of 
[01:11] <govatent> if anything comcast has nicer bandwitdh if it comes down to it
[01:11] <govatent> you can get up to 50 / 20 
[01:11] <Spreadsheet_> I think comcast has some kind of cap
[01:11] <govatent> its 250 
[01:11] <govatent> per month on the downloads 
[01:11] <Chloric> Do you have Atlantic up in broward?
[01:11] <govatent> dont think they did anything about uploads yet anyways 
[01:11] <govatent> nope
[01:11] <Chloric> theyre a good ISP down here
[01:12] <govatent> in broward its mostly comcast/att or advanced cable which is the worst hell hole of an isp ever 
[01:12] <govatent> avoid any area in which advanced cable is the cable owner 
[01:12] <govatent> unless you like crappy service and low bandwidth 
[01:12] <Spreadsheet_> I also need it to be bittorrent friendlt
[01:13] <govatent> att is semi bt friendly i think 
[01:13] <Spreadsheet_> Are there other LUG in FL?
[01:13] <govatent> yup 
[01:13] <Spreadsheet_> Are they as big as this one? Are they active/hold installfests?
[01:13] <govatent> when you get to fort lauderdale you can hit me up. i live in the area
[01:13] <govatent> i think they are 
[01:14] <govatent> i mostly stay here
[01:14] <Chloric> i dont have any issues with BT and ATT... i have issues with their speeds
[01:14] <govatent> lol
[01:14] <govatent> comcast offers amazing speed compared to what we can get here 
[01:15] <govatent> and sorry its 50/10 with comcast
[01:15] <govatent> but its 100 bucks a month 
[01:16] <govatent> i pay 42 for 15/3
[01:17] <Chloric> what happened to the 100mps down that comcast has now? the Exfinity thig
[01:18] <Spreadsheet_> Hmm oh well
[01:18] <govatent> its only in certain areas
[01:18] <govatent> exfinity is just a branding thing 
[01:18] <govatent> still crummy comcast 
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> Does dial-up allow you to have incoming connections? ;)
[01:19] <govatent> lol
[01:19] <govatent> can you use speakeasy dsl on areas owned by att?
[01:19] <govatent> i was never clear on if i could 
[01:19] <govatent> i thought i was forced between att or comcast here in fort lauderdale
[01:19] <govatent> for home service anyways
[01:20] <govatent> what service do you use where your at Spreadsheet_ 
[01:20] <Spreadsheet_> A local one
[01:20] <govatent> i wish 
[01:20] <Spreadsheet_> The other choices are the same...
[01:20] <Spreadsheet_> A comcast owned company, time warner, att
[01:20] <govatent> we dont have any locals options here that i know of 
[01:21] <Spreadsheet_> Still, they don't allow incoming connections
[01:21] <govatent> i know comcast/att home service does allow incoming 
[01:21] <govatent> but is it for your personal use or a public site with heavy traffic? 
[01:21] <govatent> like i host all sorts of stuff from home 
[01:22] <govatent> i pick comcast cause they have more down bandwidth 
[01:22] <Chloric> I GOT MY BELOVED UBUNTU BACK!!!!
[01:22] <govatent> i have never reached the 250 gb cap 
[01:22] <govatent> but everyone to their own i guess
[01:22] <Chloric> i love you govatent
[01:22] <govatent> lol
[01:22] <govatent> i love me too
[01:22] <govatent> i am mad at you 
[01:22] <Spreadsheet_> I mean comcast sounds great to me. They have a rather big cap (I would never reach that cap), and they allow incoming connections.
[01:22] <govatent> not the option i wanted
[01:22] <Spreadsheet_> But they are anti-bt and service is terrible
[01:23] <govatent> att currently does not provide anything on dsl past 6 unless you go uverse. but do your self the favor and avoid uverse altogether 
[01:23] <govatent> comcast for home service is the lesser of the evil i feel 
[01:24] <Chloric> lmao. i took the lazy way out :p but now i have two wireless cards in my computer. i could play with that and have a little fun with it
[01:24] <govatent> how much bw do you get for what price with ur local isp?
[01:24] <Chloric> what do you mean not past 6? 6mbs? or 6gb cap?
[01:25] <govatent> 6 mpbs 
[01:25] <Chloric> oh
[01:25] <Chloric> ok
[01:25] <Chloric> lol
[01:25] <Chloric> i did 10GB on the weekend 
[01:27] <govatent> Spreadsheet_, how much bandwidth do you get for what price and is it bt friendly and allow incoming connections? 
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> govatent: I'm not sure
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> I think it's BT friendly, around $30 a month
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> No incoming connections
[01:27] <govatent> oh 
[01:27] <Spreadsheet_> Not sure of bandwidth
[01:27] <govatent> well just hearing no incoming makes me go away lol
[01:28] <Spreadsheet_> Are there many startups in florida?
[01:29] <MichelleQ1> what sort?
[01:29]  * MichelleQ1 resumes paying attention
[01:30] <Spreadsheet_> Web startups
[01:30] <Spreadsheet_> The Silicon Valley types
[01:30] <itnet7> I would have to say there are a fair share
[01:31] <govatent> i could agree
[01:31] <govatent> whens your big move?
[01:31] <Spreadsheet_> December
[01:31] <govatent> in time for florida winter lol
[01:32] <Chloric> whats florida winter? i dont understand this... concept
[01:32] <govatent> how it does not get cold like in other north states 
[01:32] <itnet7> intersil for example, they designed the wifi Hopefully you will arrive on the one or two days a year it's actually cold to feel it
[01:32] <Chloric> its the beginning of november and it was 75 today. it was nice
[01:33] <govatent> yea thats florida winter 
[01:33] <govatent> its not really cold. but most people run around like its snowing 
[01:34] <govatent> me being one of them
[01:35] <Chloric> lol
[01:35] <itnet7> Chloric: did you notice my pm? it's about the wiki
[01:35] <Chloric> i never dress different from summer or winter. no matter, im still outside in black skating and running about (sometimes with flannel)
[01:35] <itnet7> lol
[01:36] <MichelleQ1> haha, you'll like winters... unless you're fond of snow, in which case you'll hate it.
[01:47] <Chloric> BRB
[01:47] <Chloric> switching machines
[01:58] <Bryanstein> itnet7, 
[01:58] <itnet7> Hey there Bryanstein !
[01:58] <govatent> hi Bryanstein 
[01:58]  * Bryanstein wipes his nose with Chloric 's shirt
[01:58] <itnet7> rofl
[01:58] <govatent> lmao
[01:58] <Chloric> O_O
[01:58] <govatent> hahahaha
[01:58] <Bryanstein> govatent, hey buddy...I see you made it back
[01:58] <govatent> yup
[01:58] <govatent> no tickets on the way down either 
[01:58] <govatent> :p
[01:58] <Bryanstein> NICE
[01:59] <govatent> how are you?
[01:59] <Chloric> *changing shirt*
[01:59] <Bryanstein> itnet7, and I saw your tire marks in the toll booth
[01:59] <Bryanstein> hehehe
[01:59] <itnet7> lol
[01:59] <govatent> lmao the way the cop made it seem i bet you did 
[01:59] <Chloric> xD
[01:59] <Bryanstein> govatent, great...just got back from compusa
[01:59] <govatent> sweet!
[01:59] <govatent> they have a compusa up there?
[01:59] <Bryanstein> yes we have errrr 4 here
[01:59] <Chloric> i think it was the pot govatent
[01:59] <Bryanstein> maybe more
[02:00] <itnet7> Bryanstein: I was going to put up that picture of you, me, and Paolo hanging poolside
[02:00] <govatent> i have the motherload. tigerdirect store :p
[02:00] <govatent> actually that would be Chloric yard 
[02:00] <Bryanstein> itnet7, did I have my shirt off?
[02:00] <govatent> i was in miami today. scary place i get lost 
[02:00] <itnet7> What Florida needs, is a Frye's!!!
[02:00] <itnet7> no Bryanstein !
[02:00] <govatent> Bryanstein, http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/solutions/techdays/2010.html?keycode=197585_39
[02:01] <govatent> i am going to that tomorrow in miami 
[02:01] <Bryanstein> itnet7, then don't show it...if you show the shirtless Bryanstein pic you get slashdotted defacto
[02:01] <Bryanstein> govatent, so what do you expect to see there?
[02:02] <Bryanstein> I got 2 wireless keyboards
[02:02] <Bryanstein> sad thing though...they are M$...I'll have to hack some Linux stickers to put over em
[02:02] <Bryanstein> they were 11.99 a piece
[02:02] <Bryanstein> the keyboard alone is 39.99...I got kb and mouse
[02:02] <itnet7> I think the video pop-locking will get us slashdotted!
[02:03] <Bryanstein> lol not if Daniel "THE WORM" posts his first
[02:03] <govatent> i dont know. should be interesting non the less
[02:03] <Bryanstein> it was like tremors in 3D
[02:03] <itnet7> lol
[02:04] <itnet7> I better work on them 
[02:04] <Bryanstein> govatent, the place will be crawling with metrosexual IT guys 
[02:04] <govatent> lol
[02:04] <Bryanstein> lol serious...it's like geeks have gone glam nowadays
[02:05] <Bryanstein> itnet7, does Daniel frequent this channel?
[02:05] <itnet7> Bryanstein: he is Lupine !
[02:05] <itnet7> He is usually lurking about
[02:05] <Bryanstein> ahhh...I have some wolf stuff he might be interested in Free.99
[02:07] <itnet7> cool!!! brb
[02:12] <Bryanstein> What kind of toy(s) can I get for right at $200
[02:15] <Chloric> i need help, anyone wanna help :p
[02:15]  * Bryanstein hides
[02:15] <Bryanstein> Chloric, with what?
[02:15] <Chloric> my dads (probably 2003) dell just failed
[02:16] <Bryanstein> failed as in?
[02:16] <Chloric> i need to get that info... but Xubuntu isnt detecting the hard drive
[02:16] <Chloric> and only gparted detects it
[02:16] <Chloric> but i cant access it
[02:16] <Chloric> (motherboard is failing, hard drive is failing, usb ports are on and off)
[02:16] <Bryanstein> ohhhh
[02:16] <Bryanstein> pfff run testdisk
[02:17] <Bryanstein> you'll get it all back
[02:17] <Chloric> i dont want to salvage it... i just need to access that and grab it... its kinda worth millions...
[02:17] <Bryanstein> knoppix with testdisk...done deal
[02:17] <Chloric> thanks... i'll see if that work
[02:17] <Bryanstein> it should...just figure on something and stick with it...don't try accessing it too much
[02:18] <Chloric> wait though, i dont need to fix it. i just need to access it. and gpart see it
[02:18] <Bryanstein> I gotcha...you can cp all the files with testdisk
[02:19] <RoAkSoAx> .win 2
[02:19] <Chloric> ok, thanks
[02:19] <Chloric> .win 2?
[02:19] <Bryanstein> .lin 1 ?
[02:19] <itnet7> He was switching windows in irssi
[02:20] <itnet7> probably
[02:20] <Bryanstein> i thought it was /
[02:20] <Bryanstein> not .
[02:20] <itnet7> one key over
[02:20] <itnet7> easy to do
[02:20] <itnet7> especially on a netbook
[02:20]  * Bryanstein never owned a netbook 
[02:21] <Bryanstein> itnet7, you know about my trials with free netbooks so how dare you
[02:21] <itnet7> lol
[02:21]  * Bryanstein cries
[02:21] <itnet7> *hugs* Bryanstein 
[02:21] <itnet7> It will get better, I promise
[02:21] <Bryanstein> LOL I hope man...I gotta get something soon
[02:22] <MichelleQ1> y'all are too much.  :-P
[02:22] <Bryanstein> MichelleQ1, it's something in the Florida water
[02:22] <Bryanstein> itnet7, also...Ubuntu on plugs only goes up to 9.04
[02:23] <Bryanstein> so if that it fine with you...I plan to send you and Daniel a package...plug included
[02:23] <MichelleQ1> Bryanstein: yes, yes it is.
[02:24] <itnet7> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MaverickReleaseNotes
[02:24] <itnet7> Seems to work in Maverick, with a little extra TLC
[02:24] <Bryanstein> Is that MichelleQ1 as in Michelle Hall with the super hugs?
[02:24] <Bryanstein> itnet7, nope...that's arm7
[02:25] <Bryanstein> not support for arm5 since 9.04
[02:25] <itnet7> Oh!
[02:25] <Bryanstein> Yes I know...it's like whatttt
[02:26] <govatent> i look away for 5 seconds and now i have to read a log. you talkative folks 
[02:26] <Bryanstein> govatent, yes we talked bad about you behind your back...and we'll say more if you don't get that sangoma u100 working
[02:27] <itnet7> lol
[02:27] <Bryanstein> any word on your pandaboard?
[02:27] <govatent> good question 
[02:27] <Bryanstein> some guys already have theirs
[02:27] <Bryanstein> early adopters that is
[02:28] <Bryanstein> Oh I need help too...
[02:28] <itnet7> No, I need to follow up on that
[02:28] <govatent> i actually have one better than the sangoma. which is current up in md
[02:28] <Bryanstein> say I had $200 what could/should I get ?
[02:28] <Bryanstein> govatent, and what is that?
[02:29] <govatent> looking for the model but its pci based
[02:29] <Bryanstein> pfff you lose
[02:29] <Bryanstein> lol...I have tons of pci digium cards
[02:29] <Bryanstein> only 2 analog...need 1?
[02:29] <Bryanstein> I can give you a digital card
[02:30] <Bryanstein> but you'd need something like a t1/t3 pri to use it
[02:30] <itnet7> Bryanstein: I may be able to score you a decent netbook for 200 bucks
[02:30] <Bryanstein> itnet7, can I install OS2 on it?
[02:30] <itnet7> ?
[02:30] <Bryanstein> lol
[02:31] <itnet7> rofl
[02:31] <Chloric> so govatent, wanna chill after the cisco event?
[02:31] <itnet7> I am sure you can do anything you set your mind to
[02:31] <Bryanstein> No serious...what netbook do you speak of wise man?
[02:31] <itnet7> I will ask chuck tomorrow he was trying to sell one
[02:31] <MichelleQ1> Bryanstein: yep, that's me
[02:31] <MichelleQ1> :D
[02:31] <govatent> not sure if ill be able to cause the one guy i am bringing with me and matt
[02:32]  * Bryanstein smiles back at MichelleQ1 
[02:32] <MichelleQ1> how are ya, dude?
[02:32] <Bryanstein> itnet7, is it Chuck or Daniel with freerunner?
[02:32] <itnet7> chuck
[02:32] <Bryanstein> MichelleQ1, I'm great...probably colder than the rest of you guys
[02:32] <itnet7> I am sure he'll sell that too
[02:32] <govatent> its actually not mine its the schools 
[02:32] <Bryanstein> tell him to throw it in and I'll take em both for 200
[02:33] <Bryanstein> I'll paypal him the money NOW
[02:33] <Bryanstein> hehehe
[02:33] <itnet7> I will ask him tomorrow
[02:33] <itnet7> :-)
[02:33] <itnet7> can't hurt to ask
[02:34] <govatent> opensolaris much? 
[02:34] <govatent> off topic i know
[02:34] <Bryanstein> lol really...also wake up Lupine so I can hook em up with some wolf apparel 
[02:34] <itnet7> He would have answered if he were around
[02:35] <itnet7> but I can tell him at work tomorrow also
[02:35] <itnet7> :-)
[02:35] <MichelleQ1> oh, who's paypaling money around?  
[02:35]  * MichelleQ1 lines up for that deal
[02:35] <Bryanstein> lol MichelleQ1
[02:36] <Bryanstein> you've gotta have some ridiculous hardware you're looking to give away for little or nothing to get into the paypal line
[02:36] <itnet7> lol
[02:36] <govatent> i have a nslu2 :p
[02:37] <Bryanstein> govatent, you need to get into the "please bring back the telegraph" line
[02:37] <itnet7> ROFL
[02:37] <Chloric> i miss the telegraph =(
[02:38] <Chloric> lol stupid boy scouts forced us to learn morse code
[02:38] <govatent> i want ext4 on my device 
[02:38] <Bryanstein> Chloric, they really screwed up with it...they should have made a BIG announcement then charged like 5 dollars per transmission
[02:38] <Bryanstein> they would have made a mint
[02:38] <Bryanstein> I would have sent one...it's like wow...one of the last telegraphs sent
[02:39] <Chloric> lmao thats awesome
[02:39] <Chloric> there could be a business for novelty messages
[02:39] <Bryanstein> exactly
[02:39] <Chloric> like in those "old" colonial towns up in New England
[02:39] <Bryanstein> govatent, you're nslu2 is cool, but we're going to get you on some sweeter hardware
[02:40] <Chloric> those darn tourist trap cities could make loads
[02:40] <Bryanstein> Funny they sure do...just because of nostalgia sake
[02:41] <Chloric> should i install PlayOnLinux or just stick with WINE and Winetricks
[02:41] <Chloric> ????
[02:42] <itnet7> You can do a lot more with Wine, and your own prefix tricks
[02:44] <Chloric> yeah,, thats what i was thinking
[02:44] <Chloric> i had the prefixes somewhere on a hard drive... somewhere
[02:44] <itnet7> you should check out www.thelupine.com
[02:45] <itnet7> get an account and search for his wine tips and tricks
[02:46] <govatent> i am out of here guys 
[02:46] <govatent> ill be on when i get home
[02:46] <itnet7> gnight govatent !
[02:46] <govatent> see ya all 
[02:46] <itnet7> ttyiab
[02:46] <govatent> i wish it was gnight for me
[02:46] <itnet7> then
[02:46] <govatent> lol
[03:10] <Pianoman> help required qith evolution calendar on ubuntu 10.10
[03:10] <Pianoman> i lost all the anniversaries on my previous calendar
[03:12] <Pianoman> i hesitate creating new recurring events
[03:12] <Pianoman> is there a way to bring back my lost recurring anniversaries?
[03:15] <itnet7> Pianoman: is this an upgrade?
[03:16] <itnet7> from 10.04?
[03:16] <Pianoman> yes it is
[03:16] <itnet7> Let me look around a bit and see if it's happening to a bunch... and let me check my re-occurring events
[03:17] <Pianoman> itnet7, it seems to be a reported bug but i am not familiar with all of this yet
[03:19] <itnet7> Pianoman: bug number?
[03:19] <Pianoman> itnet7, let me try to find something
[03:20] <itnet7> Pianoman: don't worry, I thought you may have it handy
[03:20] <itnet7> I'm looking now
[03:20] <Pianoman> ok thanks
[03:21] <itnet7> Your not synching to a pda or anything right?
[03:21] <Pianoman> itnet7, no nothing
[03:23] <Pianoman> itnet7, similar to this one Bug #246251
[03:24] <Pianoman> itnet7, i also get a : This calendar is read-only message
[03:26] <itnet7> Pianoman: can you start evolution in a terminal and see if there is any messages that appear in the terminal after accessing the calendar?
[03:27] <Pianoman> how do i do that?
[03:27] <itnet7> Close evolution if you already have it open
[03:27] <Pianoman> itnet7, sorry am not too familiar with much
[03:27] <Pianoman> itnet7, done
[03:28] <itnet7> then open a Terminal, Applications, Accessories, then Terminal
[03:28] <Pianoman> itnet7, done
[03:28] <itnet7> type in: evolution, and hit enter
[03:28] <itnet7> look back at the terminal any funky reporting going on?
[03:29] <Pianoman> itnet7, EI: MAIL PREFS
[03:29] <itnet7> select the calendar part if you can
[03:29] <itnet7> and look a the terminal again
[03:29] <itnet7> anything else showing up?
[03:30] <Pianoman> no
[03:30] <Pianoman> yes
[03:30] <Pianoman> itnet7, Se_cal_view_start: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[03:31] <itnet7> can you close evolution
[03:31] <Pianoman> done
[03:31] <itnet7> I will walk you through some other debugging
[03:31] <Pianoman> thanks
[03:31] <Pianoman> luckily i have 2 screens
[03:31] <itnet7> trying to see if there is a specific option for Calendar
[03:31] <itnet7> yeah :-)
[03:35] <itnet7> Is this on a full 10.10 ubuntu desktop? not netbook edition or something?
[03:36] <Pianoman> laptop
[03:36] <Pianoman> full 10.10, dual boot laptop
[03:37] <itnet7> thanks
[03:40] <itnet7> Just to rule out this is not a MAPI account
[03:41] <Pianoman> how do I check for MAPI
[03:42] <itnet7> Open evolution, the normal way..
[03:42] <Pianoman> done
[03:42] <itnet7> Edit, then preferences
[03:42] <Pianoman> ok
[03:42] <itnet7> what protocol is the account using?
[03:42] <Pianoman> pop
[03:42] <itnet7> ok
[03:44] <itnet7> Is the stuff missing from all views?
[03:44] <Pianoman> ?
[03:44] <itnet7> Sorry
[03:45] <itnet7> are your recurring appointments missing from all views, meaning, daily, weekly, and monthly?
[03:45] <Pianoman> i had all my anniversaries in the calendar as recurring appointments
[03:45] <Pianoman> thay are all gone, in all views yes
[03:51] <itnet7> If you got Help and About in Evolution, what version does it say you're running?
[03:51] <Pianoman> 2.30.3
[03:52] <Pianoman> should be the latest
[03:53] <itnet7> Yeah, just making sure you and I were running the same version
[03:53] <Pianoman> yep
[03:59] <itnet7> when did you upgrade? Have they ever appeared since the upgrade?
[04:00] <Pianoman> on 10.10
[04:00] <Pianoman> never saw them since
[04:02] <itnet7> Pianoman: Let me ask around a bit, I don't see any real specific debugging for calendar.
[04:02] <itnet7> can you swing in tomorrow night?
[04:02] <Pianoman> ok thank you very much
[04:02] <itnet7> no problem
[04:02] <Pianoman> it is getting late i might have to leave soon
[04:03] <itnet7> cool
[04:03] <itnet7> You can e-mail me at itnet7atubuntudotcom
[04:03] <itnet7> if you want
[04:03] <itnet7> in case you can't get in here tomorrow
[04:03] <itnet7> and I will ask around
[04:04] <Pianoman> am sending a test email now
[04:04] <itnet7> k
[04:05] <Pianoman> i have another little problem you might be able to suggest a solution
[04:05] <itnet7> Got it!
[04:05] <itnet7> ok
[04:06] <itnet7> what is your little problem? Hopefully I can help you with that
[04:06] <Pianoman> in my browsers, Chromium or Firefox, i cannot see some of the flash player apps running, sometimes it is a movie
[04:06] <itnet7> Are you running 64-bit?
[04:06] <Pianoman> i dont think so
[04:08] <Pianoman> that problem started about 1 week ago after some upgrades
[04:09] <itnet7> Do you know which version of flashplayer you have installed?
[04:09] <Pianoman> no
[04:09] <itnet7> I am trying to find an easy way of finding it
[04:10] <itnet7> System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager....
[04:11] <itnet7> in the Quick Search put flash
[04:11] <Pianoman> done
[04:11] <itnet7> in the check column click the very top of the column box to sort and show installed apps
[04:11] <itnet7> two to the left from "Package"
[04:12] <Pianoman> adobe 10.1.103.64-1maverick1
[04:12] <itnet7> is that installed version, or latest
[04:12] <Pianoman> konqueror 4.4.5.1
[04:13] <itnet7> Oh
[04:13] <itnet7> you're using kde?
[04:13] <Pianoman> no???
[04:13] <Pianoman> am i?
[04:13] <itnet7> well
[04:13] <itnet7> konqueror is the kde browser
[04:13] <Pianoman> well? i am laughin here alone at my computer
[04:13] <itnet7> ROFL
[04:14] <Pianoman> did i install something i was not supposed to?
[04:14] <itnet7> Oh
[04:14] <itnet7> you were reading the description at the bottom?
[04:14] <itnet7> Konqueror
[04:14] <itnet7> ?
[04:14] <Pianoman> i sorted the flash packages by installed version
[04:15] <Pianoman> top one says Konqueror 4:4.5.1-oubuntu4
[04:15] <itnet7> Well, My flash version is outdated, let me upgrade it and see if mine breaks too
[04:16] <itnet7> is your terminal still open?
[04:16] <itnet7> can you type: uname -a
[04:16] <Pianoman> but i have many other packages installed: gnash, klash, flashplugin
[04:16] <Pianoman> yes
[04:17] <Pianoman> done
[04:17] <itnet7> can you paste it here
[04:17] <itnet7> the output
[04:17] <Pianoman> Linux denis-laptop 2.6.35-22-generic-pae #35-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 22:16:51 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:18] <itnet7> Have you ever installed Ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:18] <Pianoman> who knows lol
[04:19] <itnet7> use the quick search
[04:19] <itnet7> and check :-)
[04:19] <Pianoman> dont know how?
[04:19] <itnet7> In the synaptic manager where you were just looking at Flash stuff, enter: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:19] <itnet7> instead
[04:20] <Pianoman> yes installed version 42
[04:21] <itnet7> I think that there could be some conflicts with the other versions of flash stuff, like gnash in particular
[04:21] <itnet7> let me do a little research
[04:21] <itnet7> and I will e-mail you tomorrow!
[04:21] <Pianoman> ok
[04:21] <Pianoman> good night
[04:22] <itnet7> ttys!
[04:22] <itnet7> goodnight!
[04:22] <Pianoman> it is almost 11h30 here
[04:22] <itnet7> same here, do you live in Florida?
[04:22] <Pianoman> Québec
[04:22] <itnet7> Wow!
[04:22] <itnet7> coolbeans!
[04:22] <itnet7> ttys
[04:25] <itnet7> bbl
[05:23] <itnet7> Bryanstein: ping
[13:40] <czajkowski> mhall119: I miss blake 
[15:01] <Klutz> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1969&tag=nl.e101
[15:02] <Klutz> How is this going to change Ubuntu.... One asks wonderingly?
[15:08] <maxolasersquad> Klutz: It won't meen anything for a long time.  I would expect this work to take at least two years.
[15:18] <maxolasersquad> It's a pretty ballsy move.  It'll be something to see how they plan on pulling it off.
[15:19] <Klutz> So this means nothing...  Then what was he trying to say?      This comes on the heels of Mark Shuttleworth’s recent announcement that 11.04 would see Ubuntu leave behind the GNOME Shell in favor of Ubuntu Unity. That was a tiny drop in the bucket compared to this latest consideration.
[15:22] <Klutz> If you have to compile from source every program you install then this will not be an easy distro to put on your friends or Grandmas computer...
[15:25] <maxolasersquad> Klutz: The move to Unity is big, but manageable.
[15:26] <maxolasersquad> The move away from X is huge.  If Ubuntu is really going to ship without X, then that will be a really big deal.  At this point one can only speculate what the full implications are of this.
[15:27] <maxolasersquad> To make that a reality will take a huge amount of work.  Since that work has hardly begun, and since it will be a long time before we begin to even see Alpha snapshots of an X-less Ubuntu, then for right now it just means business as usual.
[15:28] <maxolasersquad> Klutz: Nobody has a vision in which an end-user will need to compile anything from source.
[15:28] <maxolasersquad> Nobody within Canonical has that vision for Ubuntu.
[15:31] <Klutz> Drivers will not be an issue?
[15:33] <maxolasersquad> Drivers will be a big issue, and a really big risk IMO.  If the basis of the Windowing system requires the graphics card, and its accompanying driver to have certain feature support, then I'm really curious what they are planning to do when that doesn't exist.
[15:40] <itnet7> Klutz: Canonical cannot control what proprietary vendors do in support of their hardware now, and it was a fight to get to this point, but if you notice "smart" vendors are coming on board. Intel, HP, Broadcom (on future cards). I would say that even with Canonical's plans to live on the cutting edge with Wayland, if it doesn't pan out (Which I am not doubting it will pan out) they will adjust.
[15:41] <Klutz> Then this just might be like installing Xubuntu... It may look differently but it is just the windows manager? Am I understanding it correctly?
[15:42] <itnet7> I am not sure how they plan to begin implementing it, but am excited in anticipation
[15:42] <itnet7> I noticed that there are some PPA's right now, but am waiting for a little more documentation to play around any myself
[15:43] <maxolasersquad> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu all use the same same Windows Manager, X.
[15:44] <maxolasersquad> I think at this point we can only speculate how it will change the appearance.
[15:44] <maxolasersquad> It may be one of those things that nobody directly notices the difference.  One may only notice a more responsive system.
[15:44] <Klutz> I thought ICEwm was the manager?
[15:44] <itnet7> You have to remember. In all of this out of anyone, Mark has the largest investment, and has the most to stand to lose. I don't think he's looking at this like an experiment. I honestly believe that he feels it is the direction we need to move in order to become even more of a force to be reckoned with.
[15:44] <Klutz> along with several others?
[15:45] <maxolasersquad> The same way one doesn't "notice" a new kernel.
[15:45] <itnet7> Klutz: it's the graphics presentation layer
[15:45] <itnet7> or server if you will
[15:45] <itnet7> not a Window Manager thing
[15:46] <Pianoman> itnet7, good morning
[15:47] <Klutz> SO ICEwm and Gnome are both at the Presentation layer together?
[15:47] <itnet7> Hey there Pianoman 
[15:49] <itnet7> Klutz: doublechecking my layers, give me a moment
[15:50] <Klutz> Programers Do Not Throw Sausage Pizza Away?
[15:50] <itnet7> I remember it Phil Donahue never televizes sick people anymore
[15:50] <itnet7> that wasn't what I meant
[15:51] <itnet7> I was just checking the granular differences
[15:53] <Klutz> itnet7: if you use my  phrase you might get your phrase... Nice combo...
[15:53] <itnet7> :-)
[15:58] <Klutz> So essentially everyone is saying stay tuned for the Alphas and the Betas that will start showing up around February...
[15:58] <itnet7> I would have to say they are both at the the Presentation layer, but Wayland will be running first regardless of the desktop manager, just as X-server is now
[15:59] <itnet7> Klutz: I don't think they will be available until after 11.04
[15:59] <itnet7> I think there are 2 separate things
[15:59] <itnet7> Unity on the desktop
[15:59] <itnet7> then the move towards wayland
[16:00] <itnet7> I am only going by what I have read though
[16:00] <itnet7> Timeframes are difficult. I’m sure we could deliver *something* in six months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will be widely useful in our community.
[16:01] <itnet7> ^^ Mark Shuttleworth's Blog ^^
[16:05] <Klutz> ok... Thanks everyone for your input... 
[16:05] <Klutz> gotta go...
[18:04] <dantalizing> mhall119: i'm not going to senchaconf
[18:06] <mhall119> didn't think so
[18:29] <DammitJim> dammit windows!
[19:53] <reya276> hello everyonr
[19:53] <reya276> *everyone
[19:54] <reya276> Is anyone having issues stating that updates can't be made due to insecure packages
[19:55] <reya276> everytime I have to do updates some updates are held back due to some insecure packages
[20:09] <reya276> is anyone here today?
[20:10] <reya276> How can I fix this issue? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/528873/
[20:13] <mhall119> reya276: wait and try again
[20:13] <reya276> no this is has been happening for a very long time now, is not a wait and see issue because is every single time
[20:14] <reya276> something seems to be wrong with a config or something
[20:14] <reya276> I even disabled or removed some of the repositories that may have not had keys
[20:14] <reya276> and that did not seem to solve the issue
[20:15] <reya276> this is also a clean install not an upgrade
[20:17] <mhall119> it's a DNS error 
[20:17] <mhall119> for the security. domains anyway
[20:20] <reya276> maybe there is something I'm doing on my end that is causing my router to block it, because it happens in every PC in my home
[20:22] <mhall119> you can try finding local mirrors
[20:22] <mhall119> that's what I do, I use USF's servers
[20:26] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Make sur eyou can ping archive.canonical.com
[20:27] <reya276> USF
[20:29] <reya276> ok I changed it to that lets see if it works, thanks
[20:29] <mhall119> USF==University of South Florida
[20:30] <reya276> ok now only this happend http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/528892/
[20:39] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Can you do the following: wget http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg
[20:45] <reya276> maxolasersquad thanks
[20:45] <maxolasersquad> Did it download?
[20:46] <reya276> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[20:46] <reya276> Length: 189 [application/octet-stream]
[20:46] <reya276> Saving to: `Release.gpg'
[20:46] <reya276> 100%[[20:47] <reya276> 2010-11-09 15:46:01 (29.7 MB/s) - `Release.gpg' saved [189/189]
[20:47] <reya276> but again I got this W:Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'dl.google.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[20:47] <reya276> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:48] <maxolasersquad> Weird.  My Googling indicates that this would mean the apt was unable to download that file.
[20:48] <reya276> now I got this
[20:48] <reya276> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'ftp.usf.edu:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[20:48] <mhall119> sounds like DNS resolution is failing
[20:49] <mhall119> can you nslookup ftp.usf.edu
[20:49] <reya276> oh oh
[20:49] <reya276> Non-authoritative answer:
[20:49] <reya276> Name:	ftp.usf.edu
[20:49] <reya276> Address: 131.247.254.5
[20:50] <mhall119> looks right
[20:50] <reya276> yeap but I still get this now W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'ftp.usf.edu:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[20:50] <reya276> I think something else is wrong
[20:51] <reya276> because I do receive updates and I can download them just not when I do sudo apt-get update
[20:51] <reya276> like when update manager comes up notifying me that there are update
[20:51] <reya276> s
[21:08] <reya276> see now I'm getting this W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[21:12] <reya276> funny when I do an nslookup on that address it comes back fine as well
[21:12] <reya276> Non-authoritative answer:
[21:12] <reya276> Name:	archive.canonical.com
[21:12] <reya276> Address: 91.189.88.33