[17:52] <Cheri703> chocolate/hazelnut ice cream = AWESOME
[17:56] <BiosElement> Yay
[17:57]  * Cheri703 made some last night and ate some a bit ago :)
[18:27] <_bbb> ever had the queen city cayanne from jeni's?
[18:27] <_bbb> recommended
[18:27] <Cheri703> no, I've only had a few from there
[18:27] <Cheri703> it's EXPENSIVE
[18:28] <_bbb> its chocolate and chili
[18:28] <_bbb> yeah
[18:28] <_bbb> i think i paid $10 for a pint
[18:29] <Cheri703> I can make mine for about $2 per pint or less, depending on if I have to buy my own goat milk or if I get it free from some people I know...
[18:30] <Cheri703> and I can make all kinds of fun flavors
[18:31] <_bbb> well yeah
[18:32] <Cheri703> and I can make about 3 batches in quick succession before the thing needs to go back in the freezer (made 3 flavors in one day a few weeks ago)
[18:35] <_bbb> sounds like work!
[18:36] <Cheri703> well, we were going to dinner with some friends
[18:37] <Cheri703> and not that much work, mix up the stuff, dump it in the thing, crank every 3-5 min
[18:37] <deejoe_> which maker do you have Cheri703?
[18:38] <_bbb> and which flavors?
[18:39] <Cheri703> http://www.amazon.com/Donvier-837409W-1-Quart-Cream-Maker/dp/B00006484E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1289327889&sr=8-1
[18:39] <Cheri703> and that day I made mint chocolate chip, strawberry, and chocolate chip cookie dough
[18:40] <Cheri703> I have also made chocolate, vanilla, chocolate hazelnut, a not-especially-successful apple cider sorbet (still working on that one)
[18:40]  * Cheri703 didn't pay $60 for an ice cream maker, mom found it for $6 at a yard sale
[18:40] <deejoe_> there's an awesome recipe for grapefruit sorbet I made years ago
[18:40] <Cheri703> ooo, that sounds refreshing
[18:40] <deejoe_> alternated between freezing on a cookie sheet and mixing in a food processor
[18:41] <Cheri703> ah, nice
[18:41] <deejoe_> I think it'd be fun to try it in a paddle-containing ice cream maker on a small scale like that
[18:41] <deejoe_> the normal back-yard ice-cream maker is far too big
[18:41] <Cheri703> I HIGHLY recommend the donvier...it's really easy and really good, and easy to clean as well
[18:41] <deejoe_> might have to be a holiday gift list item
[18:41] <deejoe_> so, thanks for the link
[18:42] <Cheri703> sure :)
[18:42] <Cheri703> I use non-cooked recipes
[18:42] <Cheri703> they are quick to melt, but I find the texture really good and much easier to pep
[18:42] <Cheri703> *prep
[18:44] <Cheri703> I use whole goat milk, easier on the system than cow milk
[18:48] <canthus13> Made from a whole goat?
[18:49] <Cheri703> yes, yes it is
[18:49] <canthus13> Ah.  I'd think you would only need the back half...
[18:49] <Cheri703> no, have to have the hooves and horns
[18:49] <deejoe_> some people like more crunch
[18:49] <Cheri703> that's what gives it flavor
[18:49] <canthus13> Mmm...
[18:50] <Cheri703> goaty goat goat
[18:50] <canthus13> Goats are tasty.
[18:50]  * canthus13 loves bbq goat.
[18:51] <Cheri703> at whatever point that I own my own property and have the space, I'll have a few dairy goats and some chickens...
[18:51] <Cheri703> protein sources that don't require death are always good if I'm raising them myself :)
[18:52]  * canthus13 has no problem slaughtering food.
[18:52] <canthus13> Can't stand pure trophy hunters, though. :(
[18:53] <canthus13> Nothing worse than finding a bloated, rotting, headless, half-skinned animal in the woods. :(  You'd think they'd have the courtesy to at least donate the meat.
[18:53] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm fine with people who hunt and EAT what they kill, or as you said, donate the meat, and I'm fine with eating meat in general, but no organs (or tongue or whatever) and I (as much as possible) avoid eating meat on the bone
[18:53] <Cheri703> if I can build the animal from the parts I'm eating, then that's not so good...also if I were to look the animal in the eye when it was alive, then be presented with meat from it, no go
[18:54] <Cheri703> so if I were producing my own food source, dairy and eggs would be about it on the protein side...
[18:54] <canthus13> Heh.
[18:55] <JonathanD> trade with a neighbor who is also producing his own food.
[18:55] <Cheri703> JonathanD: exactly, that'd work too
[18:55] <canthus13> I was watching a youtube video of some guy slaughtering his rabbits... Kinda creepy in a way.  He actually has a little dandelion garden just for the condemned.. Lets 'em get a good nibble, then shoots 'em in the back of the head.
[18:55] <Cheri703> I just couldn't go "oh, I have fed you and cared for you EVERY DAY and now I'm going to kill and eat you"
[18:55] <Cheri703> ugh, no
[18:55] <canthus13> But at the same time, he was very nice to them, right up to the end.
[18:56] <Cheri703> well, that's good, humane (ish?) practices are good, I just wouldn't be able to do it
[18:56] <Cheri703> or watch someone do it
[18:56] <Cheri703> people gore I have no problem with, animals? bad.
[18:56] <Cheri703> I watch movies where people are beaten up, killed, whatever, but some movie had a guy stomp a dog to death, I was done. that was completely off the list
[18:57]  * Cheri703 doesn't like animal abuse
[18:58] <Cheri703> food is a different story (though there are some CRAPPY practices there too)
[18:59] <deejoe_> "pets or meat?"
[18:59]  * canthus13 feels much the same.
[18:59] <canthus13> meaty pets. :P
[18:59] <canthus13> a friend of mine was mostly vegetarian because she grew up on a farm and couldn't bear the thought of eating a former pet...
[18:59] <canthus13> She'd happily eat chicken, though.. she thought they were evil little animals. :)
[19:14] <_bbb> el chupacabra!
[19:39] <canthus13> la chickencabra.
[21:51] <Buzz_> What's up Buckeyes?
[21:52] <Buzz_> I've been using ubuntu (and other linux OS) for about 4 years
[21:53] <Buzz_> was curious what you guys like for mp3 software....I'm currently using Audacious
[21:53] <Buzz_> OH...I'm on a minimal install of 10.04
[22:00] <dmcglone> Hi peeps ;-)
[22:02] <Buzz_> hi
[22:02] <dmcglone> hello Buzz_ are you the new kid on the block?
[22:04] <Buzz_> I suppose I am
[22:05] <Buzz_> been messin with ubuntu since 8.04 (I think)
[22:06] <Buzz_> am totally loving my minimal install....CLI isn't nearly as tough as I thought it would be, lol
[22:14] <dmcglone> thats cool. I've been a linux users since '93
[22:14] <Buzz_> wow, you've forgot more about linux that I know
[22:16] <Buzz_> I've messed with a few different distros....fedora, kanotix, all the buntu's, crunchbang, pclos, ect....
[22:16] <Buzz_> I keep coming back to Ubuntu
[22:18] <Buzz_> anyway, nice to find Ohio Ubuntu, I'm sure I'll be here often
[22:18] <dmcglone> :-) glad to hear
[23:31] <paultag> challah all
[23:31] <paultag> thanks dmcglone :)