[00:43] <postfuturist> When files are being copied over, are they being created in place or created somewhere else and being renamed / moved over after the transfer is complete?
[00:52] <duanedesign> postfuturist: you mean when files are being synced to the cloud?
[00:52] <duanedesign> or from the cloud to your machine?
[00:53] <postfuturist> mostly from the cloud to the machine
[00:53] <duanedesign> ok
[00:53] <duanedesign> they are being created in place
[00:53] <duanedesign> first the metadata syncs, then the content syncs
[00:53] <postfuturist> in that case, what happens when, say, your computer resets in the middle of a transfer and the file is half-created
[00:55] <postfuturist> Could that file be seen as a modification of the original, since the metadata has already synced? And then that could overwrite the original file?
[00:55] <duanedesign> if a conflict does occur your file will not be overwritten
[00:56] <duanedesign> it creates a .u1conflict file
[00:56] <duanedesign> and lets the user decide which to keep
[00:58] <postfuturist> The reason I ask is that I added my Music folder and one of the machines I was syncing to (my laptop) had some trouble rebooting a lot. Then I noticed that a number of my mp3 files end abruptly, mid-song.
[00:59] <postfuturist> I don't see any u1conflict files, so maybe it's unrelated. Anyways, thanks.
[01:00] <duanedesign> maybe you can...
[03:17] <bladernr> Evening all... just a quick question if anyone's around... did the "Sync to Ubuntu One" option get dropped from the left click menu in File Manager?
[06:29] <SpamapS> bladernr: I don't know if it got "dropped" as I just started using u1 in maverick.. but I only see sync options for folders, not individual files.
[08:40] <JanC> maybe somebody in the U1MS team can answer this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12241/is-there-any-information-on-when-the-ubuntu-one-music-store-will-add-more-countri ?
[09:23] <b14ck> Hey-- I recently started using ubuntuone, but can't seem to figure out a way to handle the immense amount of problems it has.
[09:23] <b14ck> Is it just me, or is it really buggy?
[09:23] <b14ck> For example, if I sync a folder, then move or rename it, the new folder never gets synced.
[09:23] <b14ck> And the old one never gets deleted.
[09:23] <b14ck> Also, if I try to un-sync a folder, it just freezes forever in a loading bubble, and never de-syncs it.
[09:24] <b14ck> I'd really like to start using it seriously, wouldn't mind paying for a lot of storage, but all these issues are bumming me out.
[09:24] <b14ck> Anyone having a similar experience?
[12:04] <rye> + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ/WhatToDoWhenAuthenticationFails
[12:04] <rye> + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ/WhyAreOnlyFoldersUploadedButNotFiles
[12:21] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:21] <duanedesign> some new FAQ entries...
[12:22] <rye> duanedesign, the idea to split them is awesome!
[12:24] <duanedesign> rye: if you disconnect Ubuntu One halfway through uploading a file, next time you connect U1 redownloads the file from the beginning?
[12:31] <rye> duanedesign, yes, no upload resumes for now
[12:35] <h4p0z3u> anybody can help me with ububtu EC2 configuration?
[12:43] <rye> h4p0z3u, i believe you will want to join #ubuntu-server channel
[12:43] <h4p0z3u>  thx rye
[16:07] <SpamapS> Is there something in the U1 client that will show me when/why/how it will sync a given folder? I saved some new pictures to my disk last night.. still not synced.
[16:08] <beuno> SpamapS, there's an app called magicicada
[16:08] <beuno> it's in universe in maverick
[16:14] <SpamapS> beuno: cool thanks
[16:19] <SpamapS> beuno: awesome.. watching it now. One odd thing, it wasn't doing any syncing.. then I went into preferences and unchecked the Files service and re-checked it.. now its syncing away
[16:20] <beuno> SpamapS, very strange
[16:20] <SpamapS> beuno: yeah, I presume it should always be syncing as it finds changed files, right?
[16:21] <beuno> SpamapS, it should, yes
[16:21] <beuno> rye, Chipaca,
[16:21] <Chipaca> SpamapS: so maybe it wasn't connected at first?
[16:21] <SpamapS> well once again unfortunately I've interrupted its fail state, so I can't provide much info. ;)
[16:22] <SpamapS> Chipaca: syncdaemon was running, but nothing was getting synced.
[17:44] <mkk> does anybody use ubuntuone on kubuntu? i can't install it
[17:46] <duanedesign> hello mkk
[17:46] <mkk> hi
[17:48] <duanedesign> mkk: i am looking for a forum post that talked about connecting U1 with KDE
[17:49] <mkk> duanedesign: i found some forum posts but they don't work.
[17:51] <dotalchemy> anyone else encountered an issue during the nant build process for U1Windows (from trunk)? I get a python error towards the end of the build stating that module ubuntuone doesn't exist. but, erm, it does. I can see it. I could point to it on my screen and show my computer where it is but I don't have a webcam...
[17:52] <duanedesign> mkk: I think you can get file sync to work, but you have to control it from the command line using the u1sdtool
[17:53] <mkk> duanedesign: thanks, we should wait for a while i guess for kde integration
[17:53] <duanedesign> dotalchemy: i think mandel is who you need to talk too about U1Windows.
[17:53] <duanedesign> mkk: i know their was a session at UDS about getting Ubuntu One to work on KDE
[17:53] <dotalchemy> yep, i think this too - just wanted to check :)
[17:54] <dotalchemy> incase I was missing something stupid
[17:54] <duanedesign> dotalchemy: i keep getting distracted while trying to do that build. I need to finish that
[17:55] <mkk> duanedesign: what's uds?
[17:55] <duanedesign> mkk: oh sorry. Ubuntu Developer Summit
[17:56] <duanedesign> mkk: everyone gets together at the beginning of the cycle every 6 months and makes plans for the coming cycle
[17:57] <mkk> so does it mean ubuntuone will be available for kde with the next release?
[17:59] <irssita> Chipaca: is there any chance you propose the fix for bug #595374 to stable-1-4 to make a SRU of it?
[17:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 595374 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Ubuntu One grammatical error (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595374
[18:00] <duanedesign> kavurt: is this one of the forum threads you read. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1522137
[18:02] <Chipaca> irssita: it's pretty low prio, do you think a sru is warranted?
[18:07] <irssita> Chipaca: david panella commented on that bug asking for the fix to re translate
[18:07] <irssita> Chipaca: no that it mandatory forces to do an SRU, but may worth doing it?
[20:10] <bcurtiswx_> How do I fix .u1conflict files ?
[20:12] <bcurtiswx_> wait.. found the FAQ
[20:12] <bcurtiswx_> nvm
[21:36] <dutchie> joshuahoover: ping
[21:36] <joshuahoover> dutchie: pong
[21:37] <dutchie> i'm having some issues with corrupted music downloads, and you said to redownload
[21:37] <dutchie> does that mean delete the song in .ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One and let u1 sync it again, or what?
[21:38] <joshuahoover> dutchie: you should be able to do it in the music store, under my downloads
[21:38] <dutchie> ok
[21:39] <dutchie> it says "Transferring to your Ubuntu One storage"
[21:39] <joshuahoover> dutchie: actually, i don't think that'll work
[21:39] <joshuahoover> dutchie: is it just one song or more?
[21:39] <dutchie> just one song
[21:41] <joshuahoover> dutchie: you can try quitting rbox, delete the song from your computer in ~/.ubuntuone/, and then in a terminal run: u1sdtool -d; u1sdtool -c;
[21:41] <dutchie> i presume the same will work with banshee
[21:41] <joshuahoover> dutchie: after that, try opening rbox and go to my downloads...if you can't redownload the file, let me know and i'll have to get you a refund on the song
[21:41] <joshuahoover> dutchie: yeah, should work the same with banshee :)
[21:43] <dutchie> it just says "Transferring to your Ubuntu One storage..." in both banshee and rb
[21:56] <rye> joshuahoover, syncing logs
[21:57] <rye> dutchie, what's the name of the song that is causing the issue?
[21:57] <dutchie> rye: B*******
[21:57] <rye> hm
[21:57] <dutchie> i think that's the right number of *s
[21:57] <rye> wow, that's actually a song name, not wildcard :)
[21:58] <rye> dutchie, and hm... an asterisk in the filename... hmmm
[22:00] <rye> dutchie, could you please tell what's the name of the band?
[22:00] <dutchie> rye: rammstein
[22:01] <dutchie> album is liebe ist für alle da
[22:02] <rye> dutchie, earlier you said it is corrupted - how was it corrupted?
[22:02] <dutchie> it makes funny bleeping noises while playing
[22:03] <dutchie> definitely not part of the song
[22:04] <rye> dutchie, could you please run md5sum on this file in order for us to be able to request 7d to check that?
[22:05] <dutchie> rye: i deleted it when joshuahoover asked me too
[22:05] <dutchie> i may still have it on my phone though
[22:05] <joshuahoover> rye: the song was messed up for dutchie and 7d recommended he re-download...since that wasn't an option with the file there, i had him try deleting it
[22:05] <rye> dutchie, erm, could you please quit rhythmbox and then open it again to visit music store / My Downloads, i don't see the redownload request now :(
[22:06] <rye> joshuahoover, since it looks like it is already broken, deleting it did not cause any harm, i suppose
[22:06] <dutchie> banshee here
[22:06] <dutchie> but ok
[22:06] <joshuahoover> rye: that was my thought, sorry if i messed things up more!
[22:07] <dutchie> ok, redownload requested
[22:07] <rye> joshuahoover, no, usually it works, dutchie, are you sure there is no "B********" in https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ (then purchased from ubuntuone / Rammstein, etc?)
[22:07] <dutchie> rye: i checked after i deleted it and it had definitely gone
[22:08] <dutchie> it's there now i just requested a re-download
[22:11] <rye> dutchie, so it got redownloaded ?
[22:11] <dutchie> yep
[22:11] <rye> dutchie, is it also broken?
[22:11] <dutchie> just checking now
[22:12] <dutchie> yes :(
[22:13] <dutchie> hmm, the song Liebe Ist Für Alle Da seems to be corrupted too
[22:13] <rye> dutchie, ok, could you please run md5sum on that file ?
[22:14] <dutchie> http://pastebin.com/a9Y0Zfdy
[22:27] <rye> joshuahoover, i've got that file directly and the md5sum is different from what dutchie has, including crc and sha1sum from dld logs... either 7d has multiple copies of the files in some kind of roundrobin server setup where some of them are corrupted :-/
[22:27] <joshuahoover> rye: very strange
[22:27] <dutchie> could my changing the metadata have affected this?
[22:28] <dutchie> play counts and so on
[22:28] <dutchie> B******* is fine now, but i still have a corrupted Liebe Ist Für Alle Da
[22:29] <joshuahoover> rye: if dutchie changed the metadata then the md5sum would be different, no?
[22:35] <rye> joshuahoover, yep, that could change it, but in 7d logs the sha1sum is 7eba8715353afc5fc7788ce622e992c64b392543, whereas in the download I've got it is 524fbf1aa673e54f53c61a58a2e46e0008d1bf12
[22:36] <joshuahoover> rye: strange, i'm going to let 7d know about this...writing email now
[22:36] <rye> joshuahoover, please wait, doing final checks with dutchie to find out what's wrong, we have too many unknowns now to blame 7d
[22:38] <joshuahoover> rye: k, have the email written in case :)
[22:38] <rye> joshuahoover, it would be great to have that as a template
[22:39] <joshuahoover> rye: a template for corrupted songs whose sha1sums don't match????
[22:41] <rye> joshuahoover, yes, right... okay, testing on another file
[22:41] <joshuahoover> rye: this is the first i've seen of this kind of problem
[23:05] <rye> dutchie, do you have lyrics extension enabled?
[23:06] <dutchie> i think so
[23:06] <rye> dutchie, because bug #586174 claims that this can happen
[23:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 586174 in banshee-community-extensions (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 4 other projects) "Banshee corrupts certain music files (affects: 10) (dups: 1) (heat: 65)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586174
[23:06] <dutchie> yes, i do
[23:06] <dutchie> but fix released?
[23:07] <rye> dutchie, well, the plugin now respects the 'write medata' setting, does not know whether it started working properly
[23:08] <rye> ok, i am starting banshee.
[23:08]  * rye wears helmet and got a fire extinguisher
[23:14] <rye> dutchie, do you have banshee-extension-lyrics installed ?
[23:15] <dutchie> yes
[23:46] <rye> ok, see you all later tomorrow
[23:46] <rye> or today, depending on TZ