[00:04] <andrewh192> aloha guys
[00:04] <andrewh192> was wondering if you knew anything about settings for Quassel
[00:05] <andrewh192> trying to see if i could hide or redirect the leave/join messages
[00:09] <theannihilator> hi
[00:09] <theannihilator> question for anyone
[00:09] <theannihilator> how do i get wireless working
[00:09] <andrewh192> hmmm
[00:09] <andrewh192> u on linux
[00:09] <andrewh192> ?
[00:09] <andrewh192> oh
[00:09] <andrewh192> wait
[00:09] <FloodBotK1> andrewh192: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <andrewh192> doh
[00:09] <melissawm> andrewh192:  you can right click the channel name on the left of the channel main window and choose "hide events"> select the event you want to hide
[00:10] <theannihilator> lol
[00:10] <valorie> theannihilator: what trouble are you having?
[00:10] <andrewh192> melissawm: thanx
[00:10] <valorie> Just Works, here
[00:10] <theannihilator> i cannot get my wireless card to work correctly
[00:11] <valorie> specifically, what do you do, and what happens then?
[00:11] <valorie> we need to hear the actual problem
[00:11] <theannihilator> it states i have wireless enabled and i try to enter my credintials into the manager and nothing
[00:11] <theannihilator> it will not connect
[00:11] <valorie> what are you using?
[00:12] <theannihilator> kubuntu 10.04
[00:12] <valorie> the widget, knetworkmanager, what?
[00:12] <theannihilator> oh
[00:12] <theannihilator> the widgen in the system tray
[00:12] <theannihilator> widget*
[00:13] <theannihilator> im not sure the name of that program i have not been on kubuntu since april lol
[00:13] <valorie> do you have a list of connections in the little window?
[00:13] <valorie> if so, click to select the one you wish to connect to
[00:14] <theannihilator> all it says is wireless enabled auto etho 0 and create a network
[00:14] <theannihilator> other than no
[00:14] <valorie> do you see a little Scan button?
[00:14] <theannihilator> i go and create a wireless network icon and i click scan and nothing
[00:14] <valorie> ah
[00:14] <theannihilator> but then again i dont know how many networks are in my complex last i looked i was the only one
[00:14] <andrewh192> sounds like u have the problem i had
[00:14] <valorie> does your wireless card have a switch?
[00:15] <theannihilator> yes and it is oon
[00:15] <andrewh192> i had the same problem
[00:15] <theannihilator> i connected wireless in windows
[00:15] <theannihilator> about 10 minutes ago
[00:15] <andrewh192> it had to do with my driver for it on linux
[00:15] <valorie> ok, so you know your card works
[00:15] <valorie> that's good
[00:15] <theannihilator> yes that is correct i am on a dell insprion 1525
[00:15] <andrewh192> well sort of
[00:15] <andrewh192> yeah
[00:15] <andrewh192> theannihilator: hey, i have the same problem
[00:15] <theannihilator> dell computers and linux well not always a good combo cause of the broadcom cards
[00:15] <andrewh192> theannihilator: its because you and i have a wireless card by Broadcom
[00:16] <theannihilator> yep
[00:16] <theannihilator> it was supposed to have been fixed lastyear
[00:16] <theannihilator> but nope nothing yet
[00:16] <andrewh192> well, i am working on getting the driver for the card
[00:16] <andrewh192> supposedly you have to download and install a firmware driver
[00:16] <andrewh192> but i can't actually find the driver for the card
[00:16] <theannihilator> thats why i am here to see if there is anyone that can solve it besides using the sstupid ndiswrapper
[00:17] <theannihilator> that is the whole reason i have not switch to using kubuntu as a main os
[00:18] <theannihilator> i am trying to just vmware the system but kaspersky is on the fritz....
[00:19] <theannihilator> hey i got a question is there a software program in the rep. called inspircd?
[00:21] <valorie> in 10.10 there is
[00:21] <valorie> dunno about 10.04
[00:21] <theannihilator> k cause i am to lazy to compile it
[00:21] <theannihilator> how do i upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 using wuzbi?
[00:26] <theannihilator> andrewh192: how would upgrade kubuntu that has been installed using wuzbi?
[00:27] <andrewh192> theannihilator: i am not sure
[00:27] <valorie> since 10.10 is LTS
[00:27] <valorie> I think it's worth a clean install
[00:27] <ruffleS> hi guys. i think i need some advice from y'all. i'm thinking of getting rid of gnome and replacing it with kde for now (gnome in maverick doesn't feel right as of now). is there any show-stopper i should be aware of?
[00:28] <ruffleS> valorie, 10.04 is LTS not 10.10
[00:28] <valorie> ruffleS: are you thinking of doing that as an upgrade, or clean install
[00:28] <valorie> oops
[00:28] <valorie> sorry, you are right
[00:28] <ruffleS> valorie, i don't know.. i guess i'll just apt-get it
[00:28] <theannihilator> so do a clean still?
[00:28] <valorie> I had problems with gnome/KDE conflicts, and did a clean install instead
[00:29] <valorie> which banished the problems
[00:29] <ruffleS> valorie, are you currently on kubuntu 10.10? are there any bugs annoying you?
[00:29] <valorie> on 10.10, and loving it
[00:29] <valorie> no bugs I can think of
[00:30] <ruffleS> my internet connection ain't no good. that's why i was thinking of apt-get instead of the clean install thing
[00:30] <valorie> the weatherapplet was buggy at first
[00:30] <valorie> but it's been updated, and seems stable now
[00:30] <valorie> ruffle, how about zsync for the .iso
[00:31] <ruffleS> mmmmm.. sounds interesting..
[00:31] <valorie> then you won't have to rely on your connection much
[00:31] <ruffleS> i do have a 10.10 iso here
[00:31] <valorie> I wrote a blog post about how to do it
[00:31] <valorie> sec
[00:31] <ruffleS> ok but the one i've got is ubuntu's iso though
[00:32] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/10/necessity-mother-of-learning-zsync.html
[00:32] <valorie> worth downloading the proper kubuntu one, IMO
[00:32] <ruffleS> yeah.. thought so...
[00:33] <ruffleS> i have even considered sticking to win 7 until 11.10 is out! i'm not enjoying ubuntu and gnome as i used to back in 10.04
[00:33] <theannihilator> i dont like kde period in kubuntu
[00:33] <theannihilator> i liked the old kde 3 layout
[00:33] <valorie> I'm the wrong person to talk to about gnome, since I've never liked it, at all
[00:33] <theannihilator> i do not like these window widgets
[00:34] <ruffleS> theannihilator, welcome to the club, mate. i don't like kde either.. i'm just going to give it yet another go
[00:34] <valorie> theannihilator: you can do the old-fashioned way, if you want
[00:34] <theannihilator> ?
[00:34] <theannihilator> what kde 3 on kubuntu 1010
[00:35] <valorie> no, but you don't have to have any window widgets
[00:35] <valorie> or any special desktop effects turned on
[00:35] <valorie> as usual, KDE gives you maximum control over what you want
[00:39] <ruffleS> brb
[00:50] <theannihilator> help im lost
[00:51] <theannihilator> i did  asearch for g++ compilers
[00:52] <theannihilator> and all but the the multilib files say amd64
[00:52] <theannihilator> i take it back all do
[00:52] <theannihilator> which one will work for me>?
[00:54] <valorie> you might want to ask in a devel channel
[00:54] <theannihilator> which is?
[00:54] <theannihilator>  #dev?
[00:54] <valorie> #kubuntu-devel
[00:54] <valorie> or #kde-devel
[00:54] <valorie> depending on exactly what you need
[00:54] <theannihilator> its for kubuntu
[00:55] <valorie> sort of quiet in there right now, but great group of people
[00:55] <valorie> they don't bite
[00:55] <theannihilator> sure...
[01:18] <ruffleS> valorie, thanks for your help. i'm already downloading the .iso. i will do the zsync thing when i get it
[01:29] <valorie> hmmm, I would have started with zsync
[01:30] <Ches7er> im looking for information about native support of ati video cards
[01:34] <j_baer> Hello, I am from the Artwork Team and I am looking for the best contact in regards to Kubuntu artwork.
[01:36] <valorie> hi j_baer!
[01:36] <smw> j_baer, that might be something best to ask on a mailing list or in #kubuntu-developers
[01:36] <valorie> can you come into #kubuntu-devel ?
[01:36] <smw> right, #kubuntu-devel
[01:36] <ruffleS> valorie, remember i ain't got the kubuntu iso. the one i have is ubuntu's
[01:37] <valorie> I don't see our art people in this chan
[01:37] <valorie> ruffleS: right, but there is a zsync link to start with
[01:37] <j_baer> Is #kubuntu-devel the right?
[01:37] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> sorry
[01:37] <valorie> I hope re-naming will work for you
[01:37] <valorie> probably will
[01:37] <smw> j_baer, yep
[01:38] <ruffleS> valorie, yeah i'll try that as well
[02:05] <Seipher> anyone use cairo-dock?
[02:05] <Seipher> cairo-dock w/kde
[02:11] <ftg2> whats the name of the package with the world clock plasmoid?
[02:38] <dasKreech> Hi valorie
[02:41] <valorie> good evening, dasKreech
[02:41] <dasKreech> how are you doing?
[02:41] <valorie> doing well, how about you?
[02:42] <dasKreech> head hurts
[02:43] <valorie> I'm sorry to hear that
[02:43]  * valorie offers tea
[02:45] <dasKreech> lovely :)
[02:49] <chris062689> I have a question, I'm currently connected to a windows computer through cifs.
[02:49] <chris062689> I'm using the command..
[02:49] <chris062689> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.2.108/ChrisFiles/ -o username=Chris,password=PASS /mnt/winserver
[02:50] <chris062689> Is there a way I can replace 192.168.2.108 (the LAN address) with just the name (myserver) so it doesn't matter if I'm on the LAN or if I'm using a VPN?
[02:54] <dasKreech> if you have name resolution in your lan yes
[02:58] <chris062689> Name resolution on the router correct DasKreech?
[02:58] <dasKreech> if that serves the lan then yes
[02:58] <chris062689> Yeah.
[02:58] <chris062689> Hmm, let me double check.
[02:58] <chris062689> Also, how can I get that to automatically mount my server on login?
[03:01] <chris062689> chris@chrisLaptop:~$ sudo mount -t cifs //myserver/ChrisFiles/ -o username=Chris,password=PASS /mnt/winserver
[03:01] <chris062689> mount error: could not resolve address for myserver: No address associated with hostname
[03:02] <chris062689> dasKreech ^
[03:04] <dasKreech> can You ping myserver?
[03:04] <chris062689> nope, unknown host dasKreech
[03:04] <chris062689> But I can map the network drive just fine on my windows machine
[03:04] <dasKreech> there you go
[03:05] <chris062689> o_0
[03:06] <chris062689> I can map it just fine from (myserver) a windows machine
[03:06] <chris062689> using //myserver
[03:06] <dasKreech> see if you can get the name resolution working on the Linux machines. It needs to be able to ping within your .lan domain
[03:07] <chris062689> perhaps I can write a shell script that pings that IP address, and if it can't find it, use the other address (the Hamachi address)
[03:07] <chris062689> that could be a work around.. hmmm........
[03:13] <chris062689> What replaced "kdesu" command?  It doesn't appear to be installed anymore on Kubuntu 10.10
[03:15] <DarthFrog> kdesudo
[03:16] <chris062689> ah
[03:23] <dasKreech> Thought they were aliased to each other
[03:29] <Ches7er> getting all my windows set up
[03:52] <ruffzzz> i need help. i've just installed kubuntu but i can't go online on my dsl connection
[03:52] <ruffzzz> i can set the connection but the widget won't show it
[03:57] <dasKreech> ruffzzz: what is your setup?
[03:57] <ruffzzz> dasKreech: what do you mean?
[03:58] <dasKreech> how is your dsl connection setup?
[03:58] <dasKreech> do you need a password
[03:59] <ruffzzz> yes i do
[03:59] <ruffzzz> it can be configured but kde's widget won't show it to me so i can go online
[03:59] <ruffzzz> and yes i do need password
[04:03] <ruffzzz> dasKreech: u there?
[04:17] <faraz> hello people
[04:17] <faraz> do any body know how can i have a normal desktop in ubuntu
[04:17] <faraz> I first had ubuntu 10.10
[04:17] <faraz> then i installed kubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <faraz> when I restarted, the screen got blue and kubuntu written on it (before it was redish/orangish with ubuntu written
[04:19] <faraz> when I restarted, the blue screen
[04:19] <faraz> and that's it
[04:19] <chris062689> faraz
[04:19] <chris062689> When you get to where you enter your username and password
[04:19] <faraz> a few new softwares installed
[04:19] <chris062689> There should be a dropbox to switch between GNOME and KDE
[04:19] <faraz> I don't put a password anywhere
[04:19] <dasKreech> chris062689: In Ubuntu it's Ubuntu and KDE
[04:20] <faraz> it login automatically
[04:20] <faraz> I doesn;t ask for id/password
[04:20] <faraz> what do i do
[04:21] <chris062689> then logout.
[04:21] <chris062689> And it should bring you back to that screen.
[04:22] <faraz> I restarted the computer
[04:22] <faraz> anyway ... I have changed my login menu
[04:22] <faraz> now I will restart
[04:23] <faraz> if I don't comeback, that means I have something new to see(Hopefully good effects)
[04:24] <dunshirley> There is something wrong with my network connet
[04:25] <dunshirley> wlan
[04:29] <ftg2> i'm looking for the world clock plasmoid. what package is that in?
[04:58] <basy> Hi, is there any voice command tool for KDE? I mean how to run script just speaking to microphone on KDE :P ?
[05:16] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:20] <peabody> uhh so I have a bluetooth mouse that doesn't use a pin for pairing.. and apparently that doesn't work with the distro's release of bluedevil
[05:21] <peabody> there's a forum post like that here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3114068.0 and they suggest to the person to use the "trunk version" of blue devil
[05:21] <peabody> I have no idea what that means or how to do it.
[05:22] <valorie> It means - either download a tarball, or build from git or svn, where ever it might be
[05:22] <valorie> let me look at the post...
[05:23] <valorie> http://gitorious.org/bluedevil is where it is
[05:24] <valorie> have you ever built anything from source before?
[05:24] <peabody> yeah I went there but I don't see how to download it?
[05:24] <peabody> I've done some make && make install some from tgz
[05:24] <valorie> you don't down load from gitorious, you clone
[05:24] <peabody> but I have no clue how git works
[05:24] <valorie> I build amarok from source (git)
[05:24] <valorie> but I'm far from an expert
[05:26] <peabody> so do you know what I need to do?
[05:27] <valorie> I wouldn't be comfortable doing it with so little information
[05:27] <valorie> sec
[05:28] <valorie> shoot, there is no #bluedevil
[05:31] <valorie> you might look at the archives of this list: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-hardware-devel
[05:35] <dasKreech> valorie: #solid
[05:44] <valorie> I'll keep that in mind, dasKreech
[05:48] <dasKreech> basy: Simon
[05:51] <basy> dasKreech: thanks
[05:52] <dasKreech> hope you enjoy I'm quite impressed with it
[05:59] <sunny_slls> hello
[05:59] <sunny_slls> can anybody tell me what is the command to install the latest kde repos from backports ?
[06:02] <dasKreech> sunny_slls: which version of Kubuntu are you on?
[06:03] <sunny_slls> dasKreech, 10.04
[06:04] <dasKreech> sunny_slls: Ah well check the kubuntu.org webpage
[06:04] <sunny_slls> ok
[06:07] <ubuXubu> good morning.
[06:11] <sunny_slls> DarthFrog, can you please tell me the command again to update the packages after i added the ppa repo to the software sources..
[06:18] <dasKreech> hi
[07:05] <omkar> Hey Guys,I have Acer aspire 5745G laptop n I tried connecting speakers to the laptop
[07:05] <omkar> but saw that external speakers doesnt work in kubuntu but it works in windows
[07:12] <omkar> need to go now
[07:12] <omkar> strange no one replied
[07:19] <poyntz> is it just me or is kubuntu really slow?
[07:19] <poyntz> i mean.. the latest one
[07:20] <poyntz> compared to 10.04 it seems to have slowed alot..
[07:21] <poyntz> it's definitely a lot better looking
[07:21] <sresu> What does Purge option do in Muon for packages?
[07:21] <poyntz> also when i push windows into the top of the screen (so the window becomes full screen), there seems to be no way to move them back
[07:24] <valorie> no, seems faster to me
[07:25] <valorie> but hardware varies
[08:53] <how_to> wassssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuupppppppppp
[09:03] <dasKreech> poyntz: just drag them off the top of the screen
[09:20] <Nakkel> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/670788
[09:20] <Nakkel> Says fix released but Im still having packages removed.
[09:21] <alvin> Nakkel: Only libionweather4 or something. That's normal
[09:21] <Nakkel> No, more essential ones, like kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons kubuntu-desktop plasma-desktop etc etc
[09:24] <valorie> weird, not for me
[09:24] <valorie> comment on the bug
[09:29] <Nakkel> Will do
[09:30] <jussi> Nakkel: checked your mirror is up to date?
[09:32] <Nakkel> jussi: Would that have effect when the upgrade is coming from a PPA?
[09:32] <jussi> Nakkel: heh, Id forgotten it was coming from a PPA. strange
[09:36] <valorie> we had this report in the first day or so, when some stuff wasn't fully uploaded into the PPA yet
[09:36] <valorie> but very strange NOW
[09:39] <Nakkel> Is there ways for me to dig in to this? If dome 3rd party package is borking the whole deal?
[09:46] <alvin> Nakkel: What happens if you just run $ sudo aptitude install
[09:47] <Nakkel> alvin: Have to install aptitude and try...
[09:48] <Nakkel> alvin: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[09:48] <Nakkel> alvin: 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 252 not upgraded.
[09:50] <alvin> Nakkel: ok, that's good. Now try $ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[09:50] <alvin> and let it resolve dependencies. You will at least see the libweather thing
[09:50] <alvin> (yes, aptitude was taken out in orde to make room on the cd)
[10:30] <Fleck> why is there 5 playback streams of one player in mixer?
[10:30] <Fleck> *why there is
[10:39] <ct529> guys, what happened to kivio, and what substitutes it?
[10:45] <alvin> ct529: Now that you mention it, it's no longer in the repositories.
[10:47] <alvin> The latest package was for karmic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/kivio
[10:48] <valorie> I think I heard that there was no one supporting it
[10:49] <alvin> !info kivio
[10:51] <alvin> Ah, indeed. ct529: kivio hasn't been ported to Koffice2. See bug 545388
[10:52] <ct529> alvin: thanks!
[11:02] <rethus> kubuntu 10.04 try to install ant-phone, got this errror:
[11:02] <rethus> The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[11:02] <rethus> its gtk 2.0 and the dev-package is installed
[11:02] <rethus> any idea, why gtk-confi was not found?
[11:03] <Nakkel> alvin: Sorry, had to pick daughter from school suddenly. Anyway, aptitude offers as second suggestion to remove libweather-ion4 and few plasma-*-yawp packages as solution. Seems to be the best pick. Ill go with that and see how I wreck my system. :)
[11:17] <rohit> hi
[11:17] <Guest39463> i hv a problem
[11:18] <Guest39463> after installinf fglrx drivers
[11:18] <Guest39463> plymouth looks bad
[11:18] <Guest39463> any solution
[11:19] <Guest39463> anybody
[11:21] <alvin> Guest39463: Not really a solution, but you could remove splash and quiet from /etc/default/grub. Why covering up important messages for a few seconds?
[11:21] <yofel> Guest39463: you should be able to find instructions how to work around that in bug 563878 - there's no realy fix though
[11:21] <yofel> *real
[11:22] <Guest39463> i know its only few seconds
[11:22] <Guest39463> but the original plymouth is so beautiful
[11:22] <Guest39463> i want it back
[11:22] <alvin> and totally useless imho :-)
[11:23] <alvin> I don't have an ATI card, but isn't the problem that proprietary drivers don't work with plymouth?
[11:24] <smooph> hi ... i am looking for a remote desktop program that has the following properties: No need to be logged in before establishing a connection (wake on lan); when in a remote connection the monitor attached to the computer doesn't show what I am doing via remote? anybody know a tool that has those properties?
[11:24] <Guest39463> i know it totally useless
[11:25] <Guest39463> but just for looks i want it
[11:25] <yofel> alvin: more precise: the proprietary drivers don't support KMS and can't set the proper framebuffer resolution on boot
[11:25] <yofel> ... by themselves
[11:26] <yofel> it's possible to set the framebuffer by hand, see the bug, but be careful not to set a resolution your card doesn't support
[11:26] <Guest39463> ok
[11:27] <Guest39463> mine is a laptop
[11:29] <sresu> Hibernate(Suspend to disk) is not working. How to fix it?
[11:31] <Guest39463> attempting a woraround now
[11:31] <Guest39463> workaround
[11:54] <alvin> sresu: bug 568711
[11:55] <sresu> alvin: Is it about Suspend to disk or RAM?
[11:55] <sresu> alvin: Ah-ok. Thanks
[12:00] <FlashDeluxe> hi ive got a question, my tab completion does not work in a right way, if i e.g. type in apti and press "tab" it does complete the command "aptitude" but if i typ after aptitude a "inst" and press tab, it does nothing, why?
[12:00] <sresu> alvin: pmos69 says it got solved for him but didn't describe his resolution
[12:05] <phoenix_firebrd> what is chromium-browser-inspector, its showing up in updates, should i update or reject it
[12:09] <phoenix_firebrd> what is chromium-browser-inspector, its showing up in updates, should i update or reject it
[12:13] <alexey>  Привет!=)
[12:19] <alvin> sresu: I don't know. suspend/hibernate is all about the combination of hardware configuration and a certain version of Ubuntu. The field is full of regressions.
[12:20] <alvin> It's a lot of hit and miss. I think there are scripts in order to help the developers into knowing what works and what doesn't.
[12:21] <sresu> alvin:  Yes. Possibly into performance regression than regression now with Ubuntu after Maverick release
[12:22] <sresu> alvin: Anyways, thanks for the bug link. Hopefully I will get a solution soon. :)
[12:22] <alvin> I do hope so
[12:31] <n8w> hey
[12:32] <n8w> ive got a problem with the kpackage, it doesnt show any updates even though there r some ...but when i run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it shows all the updates
[12:33] <n8w> n apart of that, the kpackage always crashes after searchin for updates
[12:39] <alvin> n8w: I think the consesus for now is that it's better to use command line utilities to install software. (apt-get & aptitude). Package managers with gui stuff are being introduced every new release of Kubuntu. I wouldn't care about them. Trust aptitude.
[12:40] <alvin> What have we got until now? adept, kynaptic, kpackagekit?
[12:41] <n8w> alvin:  ye:)i will do that
[12:41] <alvin> I know Ubuntu wants users to have the possibility of avoiding the command line, but you shouldn't fear it.
[13:35] <LukasT|screen> Hello guys, it is possible to install Qt4.6 on karmic?
[13:36] <goodtime> perhaps LukasT|screen
[13:36] <goodtime> its worth a try if it dont mess things up
[13:39] <goodtime>  back to ubuntu
[13:40] <goodtime> too much leg work in ferora so i install  a old 10.4 disk
[13:40] <goodtime> much less of a hastle
[13:42] <LukasT|screen> goodtime: ?
[13:43] <LukasT|screen> I'm on Kubuntu Karmic and I can't updade. But I want to compile qt4.6 stuff
[13:47] <goodtime> maybe its ,,apt-get install update
[13:47] <goodtime> as root in your terminal
[13:47] <Pici> LukasT|screen: Why can't you upgrade?
[13:48] <goodtime> idk lol
[13:48] <goodtime> here ill try it first
[13:48] <Pici> goodtime: Thats not a valid command.
[13:49] <LukasT|screen> Pici: due to other software we depend on
[13:49] <goodtime> ok
[13:49] <goodtime> im still kinda a noob
[13:50] <goodtime> it just has taken me a long time  because of windows os
[13:50] <Pici> LukasT|screen: You'd probably be best off looking for a ppa for qt4.6 then.  Or finding the source, but you're on your own in terms of support for either one.
[13:50] <goodtime> rite
[13:51] <LukasT|screen> Pici: ppa is what?
[13:51] <Pici> !ppa
[13:51]  * LukasT|screen Fedora user mostly
[13:51] <goodtime> idk but i could find out i guess
[13:53]  * goodtime is playing manish boy by muddy waters
[13:53] <goodtime> cant get the spammer to work heh
[14:00] <wechat> goodtime: you try too send a lot of mails?
[14:00] <goodtime> nope
[14:06] <goodtime> i get paid today oh shit
[14:06] <goodtime> just rememberd
[14:07] <goodtime> hmmm maybe ill get that 19' monitor today for only 55 bucks
[14:07] <goodtime> the thing matches my pc meening that its a dell
[14:08] <goodtime> everything i have is made by dell
[14:08] <goodtime> and was free
[14:08] <goodtime> then i go and get this cool graffics card for 25 bucks
[14:08] <Pici> goodtime: I know this channel isn't busy, but its still intended to be a support channel.  If you want to chat you can join #kubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:08] <goodtime> and a tv card
[14:09] <goodtime> ok
[14:09] <goodtime> ty
[14:09] <Pici> :)
[14:09] <goodtime> :)
[14:09] <FloodBotK1> goodtime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <goodtime> ok ty
[14:09] <Pici> FloodBotK1: silly bot.
[14:10] <goodtime> heh i guees irc channles rely on it thoe
[14:10] <goodtime> guess*
[14:11] <goodtime> i need to get that driver for the thing thoe
[14:11] <goodtime> ati 1300 series
[14:13] <Pici> goodtime: I'm pretty sure that you can only use the open source driver with that card.  I have the x1400 myself.
[14:13] <goodtime> oic
[14:13] <goodtime> so how do i go about that?
[14:14] <Pici> It should work out of the box.
[14:14] <goodtime> hmm
[14:18] <goodtime> i guess it did it already then
[14:19] <goodtime> there are no proprietary driver i guess to install so it prob did it already
[14:19] <goodtime> i hope
[14:19] <goodtime> list
[14:19] <goodtime> oops
[14:20] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:51] <silv3r_m00n> can I run kde on a netbook , with intel atom processor and 1gb ram ?
[14:51] <silv3r_m00n> I mean kde 4
[14:54] <alvin> silv3r_m00n: Yes, you can. It 'll be slower, but it'll work fine. There's also the plasma interface for netbooks.
[14:54] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[14:55] <alvin> Anything will be slower on an atom anyway. It's well supported.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> how to set a text file page size permanently in Kate .? The size changes back to some dinky default size unless one saves it everytime it's used.
[15:04] <goodtime> its prob a font
[15:04] <goodtime> BluesKaj:
[15:06] <BluesKaj> nope , nothjing to do with fonts , it's the padge size that I want to resize permanaently
[15:06] <BluesKaj> err page, goodtime
[15:07] <Arran> Hello
[15:07] <BluesKaj> hi
[15:08] <goodtime> that sucks
[15:08] <goodtime> there has to be some simple command
[15:08] <Arran> How do I get to the room irc.freenode.net and there enter /join@kubuntu-de.org?
[15:09] <goodtime> ok, /server irc.freenode.net
[15:09] <goodtime> Arran:
[15:09] <Arran> into the line I am writing now?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> it's #kubuntu-de
[15:09] <goodtime> then /j #channel
[15:10] <goodtime> that shouldnt matter
[15:10] <goodtime> as long as your in the room
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Arran, this irc , the @ doesn't work
[15:10] <goodtime> those commands work anywhere in irc
[15:10] <BluesKaj> nope
[15:11] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Arran, just click here , #kubuntu-de :)_
[15:12] <goodtime> right lol
[15:12] <Arran> OK, that was just a typo. But I still do not see, where I can type in /join#kubuntu-de.org.
[15:12] <goodtime> dont worry its hard to grasp at first
[15:13] <Arran> Sorry, this is my very first experience with such a feature
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Arran, it's not#kubuntu-de.org
[15:13] <BluesKaj> just #kubuntu-de
[15:13] <yofel> there is #kubuntu-de.org too for the web page
[15:13] <goodtime> ok. again /server irc.freenode.net then type   /j #whatever channle you chose
[15:14] <yofel> Arran: and it's '/join #kubuntu-de.org' without the quotes (and you're already on freenode currently)
[15:14] <BluesKaj> yes yofel but we're not talking about webpages
[15:14] <goodtime> dont forget the # thn type in the channel
[15:14] <Arran> @ goodtime: in this line I am typing in  just now?
[15:14] <goodtime> nope
[15:14] <Arran> OK. Where then?
[15:14] <yofel> BluesKaj: didn't read the full backlog..
[15:15] <yofel> goodtime: why not? should work too
[15:15] <goodtime> yes it is sorry
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Arran, in the server textbox
[15:15] <goodtime> right
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yofel, it should work , but it's less cluttered if he types in the server textbox
[15:16] <Arran> Thanks a lot, I managed to be there.
[15:16] <yofel> true
[15:16] <goodtime> so it worked
[15:17] <Arran> Yes. And good by for the moment. I will be bake much wiser ho to use this method of communikcation.
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Arran, if you're on irc using an IM client , @ still won't bring attention to the nick you want to address , just use the person's nick
[15:18] <goodtime> you can jump to any channel with /j #channel
[15:19] <goodtime> you might even be able to hit all kinds of servers with /server whatever server
[15:20] <goodtime> konversation is a cool ass client for irc i can run all kinds if servers and channels at the same time
[15:20] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:20] <goodtime> love it
[15:20] <goodtime> hah found a roach to smoke
[15:21]  * goodtime is listening to Anarchy by KMFDM on Symbols [Audacious]
[15:21] <BluesKaj> only thing I'd like to see added is an autolist connected to irc servers ..someone should write a script
[15:22] <BluesKaj> goodtime, don't run any listening to: scripts or aliases , it'll get you kicked
[15:23] <goodtime> ok
[15:23] <goodtime> sorry
[15:23] <BluesKaj> np, just a reminder of some of the rules here
[15:24] <goodtime> good stuff
[15:26] <goodtime> wow i should register here but i forgot how
[15:26] <Pici> !register
[15:29] <goodtime> wow havin some trouble
[15:29] <goodtime> hmmm ill get i think
[15:31] <goodtime> NickServ- Insufficient parameters for REGISTER
[15:32] <goodtime> hmm
[15:32] <goodtime> NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email>
[15:34] <BluesKaj> goodtime, /msg nickserv register pw email , in the server textbox
[15:37] <sobczyk> is there some bug filed about the bad IO scheduling in linux?
[15:38] <goodtime> man i cant seem to register
[15:41] <BluesKaj> goodtime, go to #freenode and ask their advice ...maybe you registered previously or some such
[15:42] <goodtime> ty
[15:44] <friese> hi, i have kubuntu 10.10 with kde 4.5.3, when i click a link for example on konversation it downloads it to /var/tmp/kdecache-... and then opens that file in opera
[15:45] <friese> i want the link to directly open in opera
[15:45] <friese> how to do that?
[15:45] <[mors]> hooray..
[15:45] <[mors]> akonadi does not boot
[15:45] <[mors]> only as root
[15:45] <[mors]> and if akonadi is not running, kmail freezes when sending mail
[15:46] <[mors]> friese: in konversation -> Settings > configure konversation > Behavior > General
[15:46] <friese> ok
[15:47] <friese> ah. thanks, it works
[16:15] <bbeck> I was wondering if anyone was finding that it takes some screens a long time to be updated after a change?  For example when using kopete, I'll press enter to send a message, and several seconds later the conversation pane will get distorted, and then a couple seconds after that be updated.
[16:16] <bbeck> It's not just that application.  Sometimes buttons will not appear on dialogs, and I have to hover over where they would be for them to appear.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> bbeck, have you updated lately ?
[16:22] <sobczyk> how to add custom kernel options in the new grub?
[16:23] <bbeck> BluesKaj: I'm running 4.5.3 on Kubuntu 10.10.  This has been a problem since the initial release of 10.10.
[16:24] <yofel> sobczyk: add them to /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and run update-grub after that
[16:24] <yofel> !grub2
[16:25] <BluesKaj> bbeck, it could be graphics driver related ..which card do you use ?
[16:26] <bbeck> BluesKaj: This is what I have, Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller.
[16:28] <bbeck> BluesKaj: It's weird, because I can force repaints (e.g. change the size of a window, hover over a button, etc.) I just don't know what may have changed to cause it.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> !intel |bbeck
[16:28] <BluesKaj> ubottu seems out of date ...bummer
[16:29] <BluesKaj> bbeck, perhaps the guys at #kde can help...they're very knowledgeable
[16:32] <bbeck> BluesKaj: ok thank, I'll try there.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> sobczyk, what custom kernel options ? pls be more specific
[16:33] <sobczyk> ok, I'm trying to switch IO scheduler
[16:33] <sobczyk> the IO killing responsiveness problem is big for me
[16:34] <sobczyk> it is really sad that this one exists since hardy
[16:36] <BluesKaj> sobczyk, dunno if this will help , http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-io-scheduler-for-harddisk/
[16:39] <bbeck> \q
[16:43] <sobczyk> BluesKaj: thx
[17:28] <chriss0110> Hi. Does anybody know something about curious bugs in kde in connection with kms? everything crashes and nobody knows why. Now I thought it may be because i deactivated kms via "nomodeset" in grub. So I activated it again but now kde doesnt even start. I asked this in #kde as well and i got the suggestion to ask here again because it is x that crashes and not kde.
[17:47] <Newbee> hello
[17:47] <Newbee> I have a very strange and annoying problem
[17:48] <Sentynel> Has the Kubuntu netbook version been pulled?
[17:48] <Newbee> Kde does not treat the circumflex normal anymore but makes things like ê out of circumflex + e. But I need it to use the sign in a mathematical contect.
[17:48] <Newbee> Does anybody know how to make kde to treat the sign normal again?
[17:49] <Newbee> In any non kde-app like firefox or openoffice everything is fine! so I thing the problem must be kde- related
[17:52] <chriss0110> any ideas concerning my problem?
[18:02] <yofel> Sentynel: the desktop and netbook images were merged, it decides by system type and screen size what to use, you can switch between desktop and netbook in systemsettings too
[18:03] <Sentynel> yofel: yup, I worked that out, just grabbed the image and booted my netbook off it
[18:03] <Sentynel> looking good
[18:33] <Sentynel> erm, okay, my kubuntu installer just crashed on "configuring apt" stage. threw up a message complaining that getting extra packages from the CD failed, then threw up an "installer crashed" message with a blank details field
[18:33] <Sentynel> any chance I could drop out to the terminal and prod it into finishing the installation?
[19:24] <Guest31913> hi everyone. i am running kubuntu 10.10 and have a soundblaster 5.1 (ca106). alsamixer shows all channels, kmix and phonon configurator only one analog stereo channel. can anybody help?
[19:24] <Sentynel> Guest31913: in console, type pavucontrol, then from the configuration tab select a suitable output (probably 5.1 output + analog input or something along those lines)
[19:25] <Sentynel> er, suitable profile
[19:26] <Guest31913> Sentynel: allright, let me try that. thanks ahead!
[19:36] <crischan> Sentynel: the pavuconfig thing worked, it works like a charm now, still there is only one channel (named Analog Surround 5.1) to manage. on 10.4 and 9.10 i had three channels (front, side, center) to finetune... any ideas?
[19:36] <Sentynel> crischan: you can tweak the volumes of the individual channels also in pavucontrol
[19:36] <Sentynel> output devices tab
[19:37] <crischan> Sentynel: yes. but i had amarok on my rear channels and other apps on my front channels. used to be able to config that in phonon config, but there it onlny shows one 5.1 channel...
[19:38] <Sentynel> crischan: no more, I fear
[19:38] <Sentynel> unless phonon gets an upgrade to properly interface with pulse
[19:39] <Sentynel> I have a patched phonon backend that bypasses pulse
[19:39] <crischan> Sentynel: ah, ok. it's by design. well, i can live with that for now.
[19:39] <crischan> but thank you very much for the answers!
[19:40] <Sentynel> no worries, I had the same issue when I upgraded
[19:40] <crischan> :)
[20:38] <lleachii> hello
[20:39] <lleachii> any folks who could take comments on the distros?
[20:42] <Tm_T> lleachii: you prolly can get comments in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:42] <Tm_T> this is Kubuntu support channel
[20:48] <chinmaya> i am facing some issues regarding this command kdesu -u kde-dev konsole ? i get the prompt for enterning the pwd but then the konsole screen does not open
[20:50] <BajK> anybody know a good vnc client for kde? or does krdc support playing a vnc server?
[20:51] <Scunizi> What do I use for managing PGP Keys?
[21:03] <chinmaya> i am facing some issues regarding this command kdesu -u kde-dev konsole ? i get the prompt for entering the pwd but then the konsole screen does not open
[21:03] <chinmaya> what might be the issue ?
[21:13] <rats_> Hi guys/gals a new zombie just appeared in my system monitor - gaurddog , it flashing zombie about every 15 secs. is this a proublem
[21:14] <rats_> im running kubuntu 10.04
[21:36] <morticum> i'm using kile and it just started doing something odd when scrolling: when I scroll down one "unit" on my touchpad it moves to the next paragraph rather than I have set globally (namely, 3 lines)
[22:18] <sven_oostenbrink> My special  desktop effects are not working, they are disabled because.. well, its saying due to the reason:.. and then nothing.. If I check the plugins I have, I see an empty list.. is this a bug? how can I install these special effects?
[23:04] <andrewh192> ok, I have a question regarding how to install Mozilla Sunbird
[23:05] <andrewh192> was wondering if i could use the apt-get command instead of compiling and "making" the program from source on my end
[23:05] <andrewh192> and what ppa i would add to my list of sources for that to work
[23:06] <sven_oostenbrink> My special  desktop effects are not working, they are disabled because.. well, its saying due to the reason:.. and then nothing.. If I check the plugins I have, I see an empty list.. is this a bug? how can I install these special effects?
[23:12] <Sentynel> andrewh192: sunbird was discontinued; the successor is the lightning extension for thunderbird (xul-ext-lightning)
[23:12] <poyntz> when I click on kpackagekit from the kmenu I get this error KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kpackagekit before it launches. any way to fix?
[23:15] <poyntz> /usr/bin/kpackagekit definitely exists
[23:23] <Thangalin> How do I uninstall Nepomuk, strigi, and akonadi without uninstalling KDE?
[23:23] <poyntz> is there any way to resize the reconq window once maximised?
[23:23] <Thangalin> I have already disabled Nepomuk. I would really like to have the programs eliminated. :-)
[23:24] <poyntz> Thangalin: have you tried looking up the packages individually in kpackagekit?
[23:24] <Thangalin> I didn't even know kpackagekit existed. I always use apt-get or aptitude.
[23:25] <andrewh192> ok
[23:25] <andrewh192> Sentynel: so i need to install what?
[23:25] <andrewh192> whats thunderbird?
[23:25] <Sentynel> andrewh192: thunderbird is the mozilla email client
[23:26] <andrewh192> kewl
[23:26] <andrewh192> shootz
[23:26] <andrewh192> thanx
[23:26] <Thangalin> Ah, poyntz ... When I remove akonadi-server, it suggests that kubuntu-desktop is removed. Is that okay? Reads like a bad thing.
[23:26] <andrewh192> is there a way then that i could just use the apt-get command to install that?
[23:27] <Sentynel> andrewh192: if you just do sudo apt-get install xul-ext-lightning it should pull in thunderbird as well if it's not already installed
[23:28] <andrewh192> Sentynel: thanx
[23:35] <andrewh192> Sentynel: you know if i can sync my google calender with my calender on thunderbird?
[23:36] <Sentynel> andrewh192: yes, same way as sunbird
[23:36] <andrewh192> which was
[23:36] <Sentynel> andrewh192: http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=99358#sunbird
[23:37] <andrewh192> i never got that far on here