| lifeless | StevenK: hi | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| StevenK | lifeless: Hello | 00:27 |
| lifeless | bigjools asked me to chat with you about derivation logic | 00:30 |
| lifeless | and proffer my modest assistance if needed | 00:30 |
| lifeless | wgrant: are you around perchance? | 00:36 |
| lifeless | james_w: hi | 01:38 |
| james_w | hi lifeless | 01:38 |
| lifeless | I was wondering if there are test helprs for populating ppas already? | 01:39 |
| james_w | lifeless, SoyuzTestPublisher | 01:39 |
| james_w | it's not very pleasant though | 01:39 |
| james_w | the factory has some stuff too | 01:39 |
| lifeless | I'm working on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/672371 | 01:40 |
| _mup_ | Bug #672371: Archive:+packages timeouts <ppa> <timeout> <Soyuz:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/672371> | 01:40 |
| lifeless | I want a query scaling test | 01:40 |
| james_w | but you don't want "put 200 packages in this PPA"? | 01:40 |
| lifeless | so I need to put some packages (in different staes I guess) into a test ppa | 01:40 |
| lifeless | and I don't care about publishing an archive at all | 01:40 |
| james_w | archive = self.factory.makeArchive(purpose=ArchivePurpose.PPA) | 01:41 |
| james_w | for i in range(3): | 01:41 |
| james_w | self.factory.makeSourcePackagePublishingHistory(archive=archive) | 01:41 |
| james_w | something like that will give you the db gunk, and not do any actual publishing or anything | 01:42 |
| lifeless | sweet, giving it a spin now. | 01:42 |
| james_w | bigjools has hinted in the past that using the factory for soyuz is a bad idea, but I don't really understand why | 01:42 |
| lifeless | the factory is a bit monolithing | 01:43 |
| lifeless | s/ing/ic/ | 01:43 |
| lifeless | I'd like to split into different fixtures | 01:43 |
| lifeless | ZOMG | 01:43 |
| lifeless | Difference: queries do not match: 25 != 38 | 01:43 |
| lifeless | adding one package. | 01:44 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 01:44 |
| james_w | np | 01:44 |
| james_w | you can obviously change statuses with that | 01:44 |
| james_w | but you might want to also add a scaling test for binary publications too | 01:44 |
| james_w | though that might affect the main PPA page rather than +packages | 01:44 |
| lifeless | Its like playing whackamole with dyanmite | 01:44 |
| james_w | I think there's a makeBinaryPackagePublishingHistory or something too | 01:45 |
| lifeless | as long as we plug each hole, its an upwards trend. | 01:45 |
| lifeless | my first focus is unfucking +packages today | 01:45 |
| james_w | right, but as you are there a test for binaries not scaling badly on +packages is probably worth 10 minutes | 01:48 |
| lifeless | james_w: the problem isn't the test | 01:48 |
| james_w | if it passes you can leave it to catch problems in the future, if it doesn't you can decide whether to fix it, or just defer | 01:48 |
| lifeless | james_w: its the fix. | 01:48 |
| lifeless | james_w: I appreciate the moral support, but I'm optimising this for landing, nothing else at this point. | 01:49 |
| james_w | ok | 01:49 |
| lifeless | james_w: wgrant: Is there any existing class that models 'set of SourcePackageRelease objects' ? | 02:21 |
| james_w | lifeless, not that I know of, but that doesn't mean there isn't | 02:21 |
| lifeless | \o/ flat query counts on +packages | 04:01 |
| nigelb | whoa 6500 bugs..... O_O | 04:22 |
| lifeless | heh | 04:30 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Right, so I'm looking at this graphing -- looks like the changelog is easily grapable from the librarian without having to pull apart the source package to get it | 04:36 |
| lifeless | whats the processing model for this | 04:48 |
| lifeless | is it per-distroseriesdiff-package | 04:48 |
| lifeless | or are you doing many packages at once ? | 04:48 |
| * StevenK peers at the db-devel failure | 05:07 | |
| StevenK | lifeless: It will be per spr | 05:08 |
| StevenK | It's been a while since I've played with the librarian, so I'm trying to recall how to get content out of a LFA | 05:08 |
| lifeless | StevenK: look at the merge proposal code | 05:10 |
| StevenK | lifeless: How does that help? | 05:17 |
| nigelb | ouch, http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-bug-reporting | 05:25 |
| wgrant | lifeless: There isn't. | 05:31 |
| lifeless | wgrant: ECONTEXT | 05:51 |
| lifeless | StevenK: the merge proposal code gets the diff from the librarian in-appserver, then marks it up | 05:51 |
| wgrant | lifeless: There is no SPRSet. | 05:54 |
| wgrant | Or anything like it. | 05:54 |
| wgrant | StevenK: What are you graphing changelogs for? | 05:56 |
| lifeless | wgrant: thanks | 05:56 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Find the base version between Ubuntu and Debian | 06:05 |
| wgrant | Right. | 06:06 |
| wgrant | So we will need to fix gina and run my script of dogfood-murder. | 06:06 |
| StevenK | If we want to pull the changelogs directly from the librarian, and I think we do | 06:07 |
| lifeless | well | 06:07 |
| wgrant | Unless you want to be unpacking source packages. | 06:07 |
| lifeless | unpacking sp's is nuts | 06:07 |
| StevenK | Source unpack just to graph versioning makes me cry | 06:07 |
| lifeless | putting this in the db would be better than using the librarian, unless you *know* that you'll only hit 4-5 versions on most packages. | 06:07 |
| lifeless | (because the db runs in-ram, the librarian doth not) | 06:08 |
| StevenK | We can't say for absolutely certainy | 06:08 |
| wgrant | The DB is crazy, though, as changelogs can be many megabytes. | 06:08 |
| wgrant | I imagine we should only need to look at the latest changelog. | 06:08 |
| wgrant | Unless someone's been doing Bad Things. | 06:09 |
| StevenK | No, I can forsee us stepping back a few revisions | 06:09 |
| wgrant | Howso? | 06:09 |
| StevenK | Picture foo 1.4-1 in Debian, and foo 1.4-1ubuntu8 in Ubuntu | 06:09 |
| wgrant | StevenK: The 1.4-1ubuntu8 changelog will have 1.4-1 in it. | 06:10 |
| wgrant | Done. | 06:10 |
| wgrant | One librarian read. | 06:10 |
| lifeless | wgrant: we don't need the whole cl | 06:12 |
| lifeless | wgrant: just the graph pointer to the next version that has a cl prefix | 06:13 |
| wgrant | lifeless: We in theory have something like that with changelog_entry. | 06:13 |
| wgrant | But that relies on people using -v properly. | 06:13 |
| wgrant | Which they don't. | 06:13 |
| wgrant | In the normal case we should need to read one SPR's changelog from the librarian. | 06:15 |
| wgrant | I think. | 06:15 |
| wgrant | Is that really bad? | 06:15 |
| lifeless | well | 06:16 |
| lifeless | its going to be diskio most of the time | 06:16 |
| lifeless | probably tolerable | 06:16 |
| lifeless | nigelb: thanks for pointing that out, I've replied on it | 06:21 |
| nigelb | lifeless: \o/ | 06:21 |
| nigelb | Its nice to tell folks that people are working on the timeouts | 06:21 |
| wgrant | OTOH it's not really nice that it was left to rot for years :) | 06:22 |
| lifeless | well | 06:23 |
| lifeless | I think the coding style being used was a big driver | 06:23 |
| wgrant | Oh yes, certainly. | 06:23 |
| lifeless | without that being identified *and changed* it wouldn't matter how much one tried, it wouldn't be fast. | 06:23 |
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| stub | test_bzrsync.py has exploded on db-devel putting us in testfix. | 07:07 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Still around? | 07:27 |
| wgrant | Ah, nevermind. gina is just confusing. | 07:28 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:45 |
| stub | I can't see any particular change that would have caused the bzrsync test failure. | 08:54 |
| lifeless | sweet - http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2010/11/snake-which-bites-its-tail-pypy-jitting.html | 08:56 |
| mrevell | Hola | 08:59 |
| bigjools | hey | 09:01 |
| allenap | Morning. | 09:06 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Is there a significant penalty in not caching the build behaviour? | 09:28 |
| bigjools | wgrant: given the queries it's running, I expect so yes | 09:29 |
| wgrant | :( | 09:29 |
| bigjools | well, take a look for yourself ... | 09:29 |
| wgrant | Can we use the existing cachedproperty stuff which has proper invalidate hooks? | 09:29 |
| bigjools | that's exactly what I was thinking | 09:29 |
| wgrant | That was all fixed recently to not suck. | 09:29 |
| bigjools | I'm going to go over it with noodles | 09:30 |
| wgrant | A good plan. | 09:30 |
| bigjools | wgrant: actually it's not *quite* the same as a cached property | 09:35 |
| bigjools | or is it ... | 09:36 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Ideally anything that changed the current job would invalidate it. | 09:39 |
| wgrant | But that sounds hard. | 09:39 |
| wgrant | But in the new code we probably invalidate the object lots anyway. | 09:39 |
| bigjools | wgrant: see _setCurrentBuildBehavior which is for that purpose | 09:39 |
| bigjools | wgrant: so my theory is that although the storm properties of self.builder are getting refreshed, the other ones are not | 09:40 |
| bigjools | which makes no sense since self.builder is re-assigned | 09:40 |
| bigjools | but as Sherlock Holmes said ... | 09:41 |
| wgrant | I forget exactly how Storm invalidation works. | 09:42 |
| bigjools | it uses pixie dust | 09:44 |
| jml | what's up with the test failure? | 11:12 |
| deryck | Morning, all. | 12:08 |
| bigjools | morning deryck | 12:11 |
| bigjools | jml, I re-created the b-m problem in a test \o/ | 12:11 |
| jml | bigjools: yay | 12:11 |
| bigjools | it's utterly bizarre though | 12:11 |
| jml | bigjools: using actual APIs or by poking the db? | 12:11 |
| bigjools | re-fetching the builder object doesn't reset the behaviour | 12:11 |
| bigjools | actual API | 12:12 |
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| bigjools | jml: it's caused by another builder building the job and then when it destroys the buildqueue, the scan of the old builder goes bang | 12:12 |
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| jml | bigjools: interesting | 12:13 |
| jml | bigjools: so is the problem that another builder builds the job, or that the old builder doesn't reliably handle another builder doing so? | 12:15 |
| bigjools | jml: it could be one of 2 things: | 12:16 |
| bigjools | 1. the job on the old builder is not getting reset properly | 12:16 |
| bigjools | 2. the pseudo-cached current_build_behavior property is not getting reset on the builder object | 12:16 |
| bigjools | I am highly suspicious of the latter, but now I have a test case I can work it out | 12:17 |
| jml | bigjools: cool. | 12:17 |
| bigjools | I can just switch it to a @cachedproperty since lifeless fixed that | 12:18 |
| bigjools | jml: right, it's the latter. Re-assigning the builder seems to retain a private property. WTF? | 12:26 |
| wgrant | wallyworld: Have you seen DecoratedResultSet? Does it not fulfill your needs? | 12:27 |
| wallyworld | wgrant: i haven't come across that class yet. thanks for the pointer | 12:28 |
| wallyworld | i'm clearly still getting across the full api | 12:28 |
| wgrant | wallyworld: It's not actually in Storm core yet, AFAIK. | 12:29 |
| wgrant | wallyworld: It's in the Launchpad tree somewhere. | 12:29 |
| wgrant | lib/canonical/launchpad/components/decoratedresultset.py | 12:29 |
| wallyworld | wgrant: cool thanks. i'll take a look. it perhaps should be moved to storm i guess | 12:30 |
| wgrant | Indeed. | 12:30 |
| lifeless | jelmer_: bigjools: My branch has a test failure - I failed to delete the check that the ArchivePublication delegate can return a false list of builds, which should be irrelevant now that its given a complete answer rather than injecting a cheap build callback. | 12:33 |
| lifeless | I've forwarded the failure from ec2 to jelmer | 12:33 |
| * lifeless goes back to sleep | 12:33 | |
| lifeless | (and I'm on leave tomorrow/friday) | 12:33 |
| jml | bigjools: I'm not sure what that means | 12:35 |
| bigjools | jml: me neither, I'm still debugging | 12:35 |
| wgrant | bigjools: The object will just be reretrieved from Storm's cache. | 12:36 |
| bigjools | I'm trying to work out if the current_build_behavior property is retained or recalculated | 12:37 |
| jelmer_ | lifeless: Thanks, mine is still in progress | 12:42 |
| bigjools | wgrant, jml: | 12:45 |
| bigjools | removeSecurityProxy(getUtility(IBuilderSet)[builder.name])._current_build_behavior | 12:45 |
| bigjools | <lp.soyuz.model.binarypackagebuildbehavior.BinaryPackageBuildBehavior object at 0xd388650> | 12:45 |
| bigjools | I guess storm is returning not only the cached data but the actual object I already have :/ | 12:45 |
| * bigjools plays with cache invalidation | 12:46 | |
| jml | bigjools: are you sure the thing returned by getUtility(IBuilderSet)[builder.name] is a different object? | 12:46 |
| jml | (i.e. id(foo) != id(bar)) | 12:46 |
| * bigjools is checking | 12:47 | |
| bigjools | jml: it's the exact same object | 12:47 |
| bigjools | even if I invalidate the cache it returns the same object | 12:48 |
| jml | how do you invalidate the cache? | 12:48 |
| bigjools | Store.of(builder).invalidate() | 12:48 |
| jml | hmm. I wonder what that is supposed to do. | 12:49 |
| bigjools | I guess storm is jsut refreshing the object it already has for performance reasons | 12:49 |
| bigjools | so I should be able to fix this by invalidating that cached property | 12:49 |
| * bigjools haxors | 12:49 | |
| jml | This prevents Storm from returning the cached object without | 12:49 |
| jml | first verifying that the object is still available in the | 12:49 |
| jml | database. | 12:49 |
| bigjools | it also re-reads the object from the db | 12:50 |
| jml | well, it might, but that's not what the docs say | 12:50 |
| bigjools | they're incomplete then | 12:50 |
| bigjools | but then this is storm docs ... | 12:51 |
| jml | right, looking at it the implementation it calls _mark_autoreload, which (at a guess) tells storm to reload column values when they are next asked for. | 12:52 |
| jml | but there's absolutely no way storm could even know about user-maintained state | 12:54 |
| bigjools | yup | 12:54 |
| bigjools | but the end user has no way of knowing that storm is going to return you the same python object that it already knows about | 12:55 |
| bigjools | so naive code like this will break | 12:55 |
| jml | hmm. | 12:56 |
| bigjools | now, how do I define an invalidation hook for storm | 12:56 |
| jml | I was just asking that | 12:56 |
| jml | self._run_hook(obj_info, "__storm_invalidated__") | 12:57 |
| jml | that's in _mark_autoreload | 12:57 |
| jml | bigjools: ^ | 12:57 |
| bigjools | just found it :) | 12:57 |
| jml | how did this code work at all previously? | 12:59 |
| bigjools | nfi | 12:59 |
| bigjools | really, nfi | 12:59 |
| jml | I guess we're out of testfix now. | 13:02 |
| * jml pours the first bowl of wrath onto an unsuspecting code base | 13:03 | |
| bigjools | hurray, my test passes now | 13:03 |
| jml | crap. apparently I have to re-authorize my ec2 app | 13:08 |
| jml | leonardr: what does it mean when I have multiple applications with the same name & permission but different dates on https://launchpad.net/~jml/+oauth-tokens? | 13:10 |
| leonardr | jml: it probably means you cleared out your .launchpadlib directory and your client forgot about the earlier token and had to create a new one | 13:10 |
| jml | leonardr: ok, that makes sense. should Launchpad clean up old tokens? | 13:11 |
| jml | I guess we don't know for sure they are now unused | 13:11 |
| jml | or, different computers or what have you | 13:11 |
| leonardr | jml: we've kicked around ideas, but none of them have been airtight enough to implement | 13:12 |
| leonardr | once we release the code for desktop integration, the situation should improve significantly | 13:12 |
| leonardr | since there will be fewer tokens | 13:12 |
| jml | leonardr: ahh yes. | 13:12 |
| bigjools | jml: I think my branch might benefit from a quick review, would you care to do the honours please? | 13:13 |
| jml | bigjools: sure. | 13:13 |
| jml | didrocks: hi | 13:13 |
| jml | didrocks: I just landed a branch that removes the need to sign the CoC before uploading to a PPA | 13:14 |
| didrocks | jml: hey! awesome, that will make everything so much easier! :) | 13:14 |
| jml | didrocks: I know you don't have much time to work on quickly (unity unity unity unity), but I thought you'd like to know :) | 13:14 |
| didrocks | jml: yeah, that's kind of you to hilight that :) (and you are correct about your assumption :)) | 13:15 |
| didrocks | thanks a lot :) | 13:15 |
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| jml | every fricking time I need to do something with datetime I need to look up the API docs | 13:27 |
| jelmer_ | jml: perhaps you should add another module for dealing with times and dates to Python ? :-P | 13:28 |
| jml | good idea! | 13:28 |
| jml | but I'll add it straight to the stdlib without actually using it in live code first | 13:29 |
| jml | because standardizing on well-tested, commonly-used code is unpythonic | 13:29 |
| jelmer_ | ah, I see you've got experience in this area | 13:29 |
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| jml | ding ding ding! | 13:54 |
| deryck | gmb, question about bug 485627, if you have a sec | 14:21 |
| _mup_ | Bug #485627: Prompt user to subscribe when marking a bug as duplicate <email> <qa-ok> <story-better-bug-notification> <ubuntu-qa> <Launchpad Bugs:Fix Released by gmb> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/485627> | 14:21 |
| gmb | deryck: Shoot. | 14:21 |
| deryck | gmb, do we now *not* subscribe a user to the master bug via the duplicate? | 14:22 |
| mars | sinzui, ping | 14:24 |
| gmb | deryck: Well, you're still showed as subscribed via dupes in the UI, but I don't think you get notification about the master bug unless you subscribe to it directly any more. | 14:24 |
| sinzui | hi mars | 14:24 |
| mars | Hi sinzui. I was hoping you could help me with an account registration question | 14:24 |
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| mars | sinzui, I just created a second account, using my work address, for some work I am doing. I used the login/register link to create the account - it seems to have gone fine | 14:25 |
| deryck | gmb, ah, ok. So we have some cleanup around that then. I'm thinking of the bug from jam about not having a direct link any longer. | 14:26 |
| gmb | deryck: Yes, I think there's some cleanup needed. | 14:27 |
| mars | sinzui, I just received a mail that says "If this was you, perhaps you've forgotten your password?", otherwise "If not, someone may be trying to impersonate you.". I have *not* received my mail with my confirmation code and/or link. | 14:27 |
| deryck | gmb, I think we should drop the subscriber from the web ui, preserve the old text about "the dupe is at LINK", and then add the new additional notice: "You are not subscribed, if you want to, go to LINK" | 14:27 |
| sinzui | mars, are you saying that U SSO did not know about the other address, and Launchpad did not either, so Lp created a profile when U SSO said you logged in? | 14:27 |
| sinzui | mars, okay, | 14:27 |
| mars | sinzui, I hit "Log out" on Launchpad before doing this | 14:27 |
| sinzui | mars, U SSO know a lot of email addresses. I believe it knows every email address that Lp knows via replication | 14:28 |
| gmb | deryck: That would also mean that we don't have to hit the API for subs-from-duplicates for each bug page, which would be nice. | 14:28 |
| sinzui | so you did not register | 14:28 |
| deryck | gmb, would it? We would still need to show current and past subscribers from dupes, right? | 14:28 |
| mars | sinzui, ok. I am worried, because from my perspective as a user, Launchpad just slapped me for trying to register a second account using my existing address. | 14:29 |
| deryck | gmb, or are we not sending duplicate subscribers emails at all any more? | 14:29 |
| sinzui | mars, you have not talked to Lp! | 14:29 |
| gmb | deryck: OICWYM. What's a past subscriber from a dupe? Someone who was subscribed via a dupe but now isn't? | 14:29 |
| sinzui | mars, as I keep saying, registration, login, and reset are U SSO. those pages and emails are not Lp | 14:29 |
| gmb | deryck: Honestly, I'm not acutally sure now. Maybe we are but we're just sending it with the "Subscribe to the master bug" footer. | 14:30 |
| mars | sinzui, ok, but I used the green Launchpad login screens on login.launchpad.net - again, from my perspective, I have only been working with Launchpad. | 14:30 |
| sinzui | mars, yes, that is why I keep send emails to fix this. You have not and when users go directly there to register with lp, they are *not* redirected to real Lp to login...the profile is not created | 14:31 |
| deryck | gmb, ok, so I think we need to find out for sure. and then do cleanup. Let's use bug 673203 to track this. | 14:32 |
| _mup_ | Bug #673203: Duplicate email sends link to +subscribe <email> <regression> <Launchpad Bugs:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/673203> | 14:32 |
| gmb | Ok | 14:32 |
| deryck | gmb, since I'm stuck on lazr-js still, would you mind including that in your "bugs I'm working on until deryck is done" list? :) | 14:33 |
| gmb | deryck: Sure, no worries. Can you add a card for it to the bugs lane? I'll take a look once I'm done with this blasted test that I'm trying to write. | 14:35 |
| mars | sinzui, ok. I am sorry to hear the experience has those problems, and glad to hear that you know what is happening. I was just looking for some help finding a way to register my account, not to accuse. | 14:35 |
| deryck | gmb, sure, thanks!. on the bugs backlog, or the task lane for the story? I'm not picky either way myself. | 14:37 |
| sinzui | mars, visit U SSO and login as old identity, view the email address that you cannot use. logout. register with an unknown email address. | 14:37 |
| gmb | deryck: Task lane would make more sense, actually | 14:37 |
| deryck | gmb, ok will add it now | 14:37 |
| gmb | cool | 14:37 |
| * gmb -> afk to run an errand; bbiab | 14:38 | |
| mars | sinzui, ok, I'll do that. Thank you for your help. | 14:38 |
| jml | bigjools: you know that thing with twisted xmlrpc that you had to monkey patch? | 14:57 |
| jml | bigjools: I just landed the fix upstream | 14:57 |
| bigjools | jml: \o/ | 14:57 |
| bigjools | I forgot what it was patching now | 14:57 |
| jml | the xmlrpc client | 14:57 |
| jml | to make sure it disconnects properly | 14:57 |
| bigjools | oh and hugs for fixing glob imports! | 14:57 |
| bigjools | that's the badger | 14:57 |
| jml | bigjools: ta, but I really just put the cherry on top of a cake made by others. sinzui's been working at it for months | 14:58 |
| bigjools | my heroes | 14:58 |
| deryck | gmb, allenap -- checkwatches hasn't run for two days according to the errors emails. Should we be concerned? | 14:59 |
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| flacoste | jml: i'm on mumble | 15:08 |
| allenap | deryck: Yeah, probably. | 15:18 |
| allenap | deryck: Can you direct me to what you're looking at? | 15:18 |
| deryck | allenap, do you get emails from script-failures? | 15:19 |
| deryck | allenap, I fwd'ed you a mail. Do you mind chasing it up with a losa? | 15:20 |
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| allenap | deryck: I do get them, but I mark them as read immediately! I keep them only for reference (one which I forgot I had until now). | 15:26 |
| allenap | deryck: I'll chase it down. | 15:27 |
| deryck | allenap, thanks, I appreciate it. | 15:27 |
| gary_poster | sinzui, you probably saw my request for a reviewing mentor for benji. Someone from Registry would be my first choice, if you or EdwinGrubbs are willing and able. Is that a possibility? | 15:40 |
| sinzui | gary_poster, I will be mentoring jcsackett next week. I will ask EdwinGrubbs. He is at a conference this week | 15:43 |
| EdwinGrubbs | gary_poster: I can start on it after the openstack conference. | 15:43 |
| gary_poster | EdwinGrubbs, thank you! | 15:43 |
| gary_poster | and thank you sinzui | 15:43 |
| sinzui | EdwinGrubbs, I just reviewed your branch. | 15:44 |
| EdwinGrubbs | sinzui: thanks | 15:44 |
| gary_poster | I'll reply to my email requesting a mentor. Thanks, I really appreciate it, EdwinGrubbs. | 15:44 |
| bac | gary_poster, EdwinGrubbs: hurrah. thanks edwin. | 15:49 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 15:49 |
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| LPCIBot | Yippie, build fixed! | 16:39 |
| LPCIBot | Project devel build (207): FIXED in 3 hr 43 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/207/ | 16:39 |
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| rockstar | deryck, hi | 18:45 |
| lifeless | jelmer: hi, I'm really not here, but how is it going ? | 18:46 |
| deryck | hi rockstar | 18:48 |
| rockstar | deryck, how goes the lazr-js battle? | 18:48 |
| deryck | I hope you have windmill magic in your pocket | 18:48 |
| rockstar | deryck, :( | 18:48 |
| deryck | It's playing in ec2 again. | 18:49 |
| lifeless | flacoste: do you know? | 18:49 |
| deryck | rockstar, I think one of the issues was without fetchCSS: false used globally, yui was attempting to go offsite for CSS, this 404s, the test runner got into thread contention, and tests started failing. | 18:50 |
| rockstar | deryck, ah, yeah, I just ran into that here. | 18:50 |
| rockstar | deryck, I think this was a change in 2.2. | 18:50 |
| deryck | 3.2? | 18:50 |
| rockstar | Yeah, that's what I meant. | 18:51 |
| rockstar | (I'm tired...) | 18:51 |
| deryck | no worries :-) | 18:52 |
| deryck | rockstar, how is yui conf? Fun and useful, I hope. | 18:52 |
| rockstar | deryck, very much so. I wish we could have had more people go. I went to a workshop yesterday that gave me the desire to delete most of lazr-js. | 18:54 |
| rockstar | deryck, I'll be typing up a thorough report on the way home. | 18:55 |
| deryck | yeah, I would have loved to have gone. | 18:55 |
| deryck | we've learned a lot as we've gone along, but yui devs view js the crockford way. Would be nice to absorb some understanding of that more fully. | 18:56 |
| flacoste | lifeless: last i saw was the tag qa-ok being applied to the bugs | 18:57 |
| rockstar | deryck, funny you should say that... I'm sitting next to the Crock right now... | 19:01 |
| rockstar | (He's wearing purple sneakers) | 19:02 |
| deryck | all the cool js hackers do | 19:02 |
| rockstar | Well, at least the Yahoos | 19:03 |
| jam | Chex: ping, for great justice! (question about lp-forking-server and getting testools upgraded on bzr's pqm) | 19:09 |
| lifeless | flacoste: ok, so we haven't deployed it | 19:12 |
| flacoste | lifeless: i don't think so | 19:12 |
| flacoste | lifeless: not according to LPS | 19:14 |
| lifeless | https://devpad.canonical.com/~lpqateam/qa_reports/deployment-stable.html doesn't show a fix | 19:15 |
| lifeless | and its not in pqm | 19:15 |
| lifeless | and there's no qa-ok on https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/672371 | 19:15 |
| _mup_ | Bug #672371: Archive:+packages timeouts <ppa> <regression> <timeout> <Soyuz:Triaged by lifeless> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/672371> | 19:15 |
| lifeless | flacoste: I promised Lynne I'd really have a day off today.... are you able to figure out where its up to and either deploy 11887 (take the faulty rev off) or get the fix 'out there' ? | 19:19 |
| flacoste | lifeless: 11887? | 19:20 |
| lifeless | 11888 is faulty | 19:20 |
| lifeless | I started a thread on lp-dev about it | 19:20 |
| lifeless | its making ppa/+packages pages timeout | 19:20 |
| flacoste | lifeless: is it deployed? | 19:21 |
| lifeless | yes | 19:21 |
| flacoste | lifeless: ok, i'll handle this | 19:21 |
| lifeless | I'm checking devel in case buildbot is currently munching on it | 19:22 |
| flacoste | lifeless: do you have any scripts to prepare for a nodowntime roll-out? | 19:25 |
| lifeless | flacoste: I've sent a followup mail just now. | 19:25 |
| flacoste | lifeless: adding bug numbers, moving stuff to Fix released, etc.? | 19:26 |
| lifeless | flacoste: none at all; I've filed bugs for the bits I think are reasonable to automate. | 19:26 |
| flacoste | ok, so it's all manual for now | 19:26 |
| flacoste | thanks | 19:26 |
| flacoste | lifeless: enjoy your day off | 19:26 |
| lifeless | thanks | 19:26 |
| lifeless | the thread name is 'possible regression on bug 672371' | 19:26 |
| _mup_ | Bug #672371: Archive:+packages timeouts <ppa> <regression> <timeout> <Soyuz:Triaged by lifeless> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/672371> | 19:26 |
| flacoste | jelmer: around? | 19:28 |
| lifeless | flacoste: I'll forward you the test result too | 19:29 |
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| LPCIBot | Project devel build (208): FAILURE in 3 hr 16 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/devel/208/ | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=jml][ui=none][bug=671242] Ensure that the custom | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | _current_build_behaviour property on Builder is invalidated | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | when Storm invalidates the database values. Fixes the | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | buildd-manager so that it doesn't disable builders erroneously | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | due to code tracebacks. | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=gmb][ui=none][bug=667340] Add a new 'fixverified' status mapping | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | for Trac external bug trackers. Maps to 'Fix Released'. | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=mars][ui=none][bug=621090] fix content type on two JSON views | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=mwhudson][ui=none][bug=384831, | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | 539496] Do not re-export anything from | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | lib/canonical/launchpad/interfaces/__init__.py. Explicitly | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | register webservice code. | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | * Launchpad Patch Queue Manager: [r=mars][ui=none][bug=673015] Allow people to upload to PPAs without | 19:55 |
| LPCIBot | having previously signed the code of conduct. | 19:55 |
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| deryck | bye, all. | 21:03 |
| jml | thumper: ping | 21:11 |
| thumper | jml: hi | 21:11 |
| thumper | jml: I normally have the standup around now, but wallyworld doesn't seem to be here yet | 21:11 |
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| jml | thumper: that's ok, I need a few minutes anyway | 21:11 |
| wallyworld | thumper: i'm here now :-) | 21:14 |
| jml | anyone mind if I fix the test failures in devel? | 21:14 |
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| thumper | jml: no... go ahead | 21:14 |
| thumper | abentley: around? | 21:15 |
| abentley | thumper: hi. | 21:15 |
| thumper | abentley: mumble | 21:15 |
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| lifeless | flacoste: no, I hadn't fixed the test - it was 0130 when I found that it was failing | 21:19 |
| flacoste | lifeless: it's in PQM right now | 21:20 |
| lifeless | flacoste: thanks | 21:20 |
| abentley | thumper: BTW, I think we should switch the build delay stats to past-six-hours rather than past-24-hours. I.e. data since last sample. | 21:37 |
| rockstar | Heh. I just ran into Mikael in the Yahoo cafeteria. He says Windmill is dead. | 21:38 |
| thumper | heh | 21:38 |
| thumper | hmm | 21:38 |
| thumper | rockstar: was he a windmill author? | 21:38 |
| rockstar | thumper, he was one of them. He doesn't do anything with windmill anymore. | 21:39 |
| jml | :( :( | 21:39 |
| thumper | rockstar: what did he suggest to use? | 21:39 |
| rockstar | Aaron is apparently still taking patches, but isn't maintaining it. | 21:39 |
| thumper | jml: mumble? | 21:39 |
| jml | thumper: sure | 21:39 |
| rockstar | thumper, I quote "Everything we complained about in Selenium is basically fixed now." | 21:39 |
| rockstar | thumper, and YUITest now has a Selenium shim in it as well. | 21:39 |
| rockstar | Although YETI was also brought up | 21:40 |
| rockstar | thumper, I may as well show everyone what I've got now... | 21:44 |
| rockstar | So, we currently have this pretty-overlay widget that's kinda messy but all our overlays inherit from it. It looks like this: http://people.canonical.com/~rockstar/pretty-overlay.png | 21:44 |
| rockstar | In ~20 lines of plugin js and some custom CSS, I've made the standard Y.Overlay do the exact same thing. It looks like this: http://people.canonical.com/~rockstar/overlay.png | 21:45 |
| rockstar | The latter loads from cold cache uncompressed 5x than the pretty overlay does completely compressed. | 21:46 |
| rockstar | Er, 4-5x faster. | 21:46 |
| jml | thumper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.importance:list=HIGH&field.importance:list=UNDECIDED&field.tag=recipe& | 21:47 |
| jml | thumper: e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/529601/ | 21:52 |
| jml | thumper: https://code.launchpad.net/~testtools-dev/testtools/trunk/+new-recipe | 21:55 |
| mars | rockstar, so it sounds like you are saying, it has been two years since we started this, time for a technology refresh? | 22:01 |
| mars | rockstar, because everything we started with has been fixed (lazr to make up for gaps in YUI core) or shaken out (windmill v selenium) | 22:02 |
| rockstar | mars, no, more like "we over engineered it, and now it's time to simplify it" | 22:02 |
| mars | rockstar, that too :) | 22:02 |
| rockstar | mars, the overlay code is a good example of us not really knowing what the capabilities of YUI were. | 22:02 |
| rockstar | mars, my goal is to shrink the maintenance footprint of our code. | 22:03 |
| rockstar | (because we don't have a lot of resources to maintain javascript) | 22:03 |
| rockstar | mars, did you see my previous statement about windmill? | 22:05 |
| mars | rockstar, I did. It does not surprise me. | 22:06 |
| rockstar | mars, yeah, he was talking about the difficulties in doing event driven stuff in python. | 22:07 |
| mars | rockstar, I think you are right, going by what you are saying, we should have sent more people. We are new at this: we get a lot out of it compared to, say, going to PyCon. | 22:10 |
| mars | PyCon is cool, but what you get out of the conference changes as you gain more experience with the language, tools, and community | 22:11 |
| rockstar | mars, yeah, maybe. I don't think there's much interest in writing javascript on the team though. | 22:11 |
| mars | rockstar, I was actually thinking of people from other projects, too. They use YUI too. (I'm surprised Sidnei isn't there) | 22:12 |
| rockstar | Some of that might be that javascript (and YUI in particular) can be REALLY confusing. :) | 22:12 |
| rockstar | mars, sidnei has new twins. I think he's tied up somewhere. | 22:12 |
| mars | oh, yeah, I forgot. (not that I would know /anything/ about that little life change...) | 22:12 |
| jml | rockstar: event-driven stuff in Python is easy and fun! | 22:13 |
| jml | Python is so awesome for events | 22:13 |
| rockstar | jml, not when you're tied to an existing event loop (firefox, in this instance) | 22:14 |
| jml | rockstar: well, that's not doing event-driven code in Python, surely | 22:15 |
| jml | rockstar: otherwise, I don't see where the difficulty is. it's easy to write code that responds to events from external systems, regardless of how they're written | 22:16 |
| rockstar | jml, yeah, there's definitely some bias there. | 22:16 |
| rockstar | Er, I mean in the case of saying python isn't good for event driven development. | 22:17 |
| jml | rockstar: next time someone says that, point them to #twisted :) | 22:19 |
| mars | rockstar, well, I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of this. | 22:19 |
| rockstar | jml, yeah, yeah. :) Basically, he was telling me what I wanted to hear (windmill is dead) so I smiled and nodded to everything else he said. | 22:19 |
| mars | rockstar, when can the rest of us expect your trip report? :) | 22:21 |
| rockstar | mars, I'm going to type it up tonight after Douglas Crockford's verbal abuse. | 22:21 |
| mars | closing keynote? | 22:22 |
| rockstar | mars, I think it's just a Bayjax meeting that coincides with the end of YUIConf. | 22:23 |
| jml | <lp.buildmaster.model.buildfarmjobbehavior.IdleBuildBehavior object at 0x88a8750> is not an instance of <class 'lp.buildmaster.model.buildfarmjobbehavior.IdleBuildBehavior'> | 22:34 |
| jml | what am I missing? that seems nonsensical? | 22:35 |
| rockstar | jml, instance v. class? | 22:35 |
| mwhudson | jml: security proxies? | 22:35 |
| jml | mwhudson: sterling concept | 22:35 |
| * jml tries | 22:35 | |
| wgrant | But security proxies are meant to preserve isinstance, aren't they/ | 22:36 |
| wgrant | Er, instanceof. | 22:36 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: not instanceof -- isn't that js? | 22:36 |
| jml | wgrant: nope, zope has special thingummies | 22:36 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Uh, yes. Been dealing with too much Java at uni lately. | 22:37 |
| jml | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/529617/ – can someone please eyeball that testfix? | 22:38 |
| jml | mwhudson: it was indeed rSP | 22:42 |
| mwhudson | argh, my brain is reading that as "the register that contains the stack pointer" | 22:42 |
| mwhudson | jml: wow, that assertIdentical looks optimistic | 22:43 |
| mwhudson | jml: looks fine, i was vaguely under the impression that we had an assertIsInstance that did that already? | 22:44 |
| jml | mwhudson: we do, but trial base class | 22:44 |
| mwhudson | ah ok | 22:44 |
| jml | mwhudson: I'm fixing that after I fix circular stuff :) | 22:44 |
| mwhudson | r=me then, if you like | 22:44 |
| jml | mwhudson: thanks. | 22:49 |
| * jml submits | 22:49 | |
| * jml waits for pqm | 22:59 | |
| thumper | jml: I'm looking at the db-devel failure | 23:01 |
| jml | thumper: thanks :) | 23:01 |
| thumper | it seems intermittant | 23:01 |
| jml | thumper: yeah, that's my guess. I didn't get it doing a few spins locally. | 23:01 |
| thumper | I have | 23:01 |
| jml | thumper: but I can't find the race in the code | 23:02 |
| jml | thumper: cool. you've made more progress than me. | 23:02 |
| jml | thumper: also, I can't see anything that's changed recently there. (but I had a pretty shallow & quick poke through the vcs log, so I probably missed something) | 23:02 |
| thumper | hmm | 23:03 |
| thumper | it seems the latest testtools is a bit tempermental | 23:03 |
| thumper | I ran a test with -D to break on failure | 23:03 |
| thumper | but it broke into the debugger on success | 23:03 |
| jml | thumper: I don't know of anything that's changed in testtools along those lines | 23:05 |
| jml | bigjools: hi | 23:09 |
| jml | bigjools: don't worry about the test failure | 23:09 |
| jml | bigjools: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/529617/ | 23:09 |
| jml | bigjools: I've got a fix churning in PQM right now | 23:09 |
| * jml continues to sit around, waiting for PQM to churn. | 23:13 | |
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| lifeless | jml: hi | 23:22 |
| jml | lifeless: hello | 23:23 |
| lifeless | I've pushed a big chunk of the testrepository test helpers into fixtures | 23:23 |
| lifeless | and I've some matchers to push into testtools | 23:23 |
| lifeless | what do you think of making testtools depend on fixtures | 23:23 |
| jml | lifeless: I'm not exactly against it, although doesn't fixtures depend on testtools? | 23:24 |
| lifeless | for its tests only | 23:24 |
| jml | lifeless: what do you think of merging them? | 23:26 |
| lifeless | the only thing that makes me hesitate is that fixtures are useful outside of tests | 23:26 |
| lifeless | like we might move matchers out of testtools eventually | 23:26 |
| jml | I can imagine the first with less stretching than it takes to imagine the second | 23:27 |
| lifeless | heh | 23:28 |
| jml | lifeless: in any case, I'm vaguely positive toward the idea, but I'd need to sleep on it | 23:29 |
| jml | lifeless: could I persuade you to push a new release of testrepository into debian sometime soon? | 23:29 |
| lifeless | thats what I'm heading towards | 23:29 |
| lifeless | fixtures is in NEW | 23:30 |
| jml | lifeless: yay | 23:31 |
| jml | lifeless: I've made a ~testing-cabal team w/ a PPA. I want to be building dailies of stuff into that | 23:31 |
| lifeless | yes | 23:31 |
| jml | lifeless: unfortunately, I suck hard at packaging and haven't had a spare moment to actually fix them to not suck. | 23:31 |
| lifeless | you might want to add that team to the recipes beta | 23:31 |
| lifeless | so that I can see it :) | 23:31 |
| jml | lifeless: you should be able to see it. launchpad-beta is in recipes beta | 23:32 |
| lifeless | kk | 23:32 |
| * jml ec2 submits database-apocalypse | 23:32 | |
| lifeless | ah there it is | 23:33 |
| lifeless | \o/ success | 23:33 |
| lifeless | jml: so, we can nuke edge now ? | 23:36 |
| jml | lifeless: you tell me :) | 23:36 |
| jml | lifeless: you don't need edge to get at recipes | 23:36 |
| jml | that's all I know | 23:37 |
| wgrant | So all we need edge for is API scripts for the next 4.5 years :D | 23:37 |
| wgrant | Alternatively we could hunt down edge API scripts using the stats which probably don't exist. | 23:37 |
| mwhudson | a redirect in the frontend doesn't sound like much burden | 23:38 |
| mwhudson | (assuming scripts will work with that) | 23:38 |
| wgrant | It won't work. | 23:38 |
| wgrant | At least I don't think it will. | 23:39 |
| wgrant | The WADL has edge stuff hardcoded. | 23:39 |
| wgrant | Unless you translate the outgoing WADL too... | 23:39 |
| jml | or | 23:43 |
| jml | you could just leave api.edge as is, put a redirect up for all the other subdomains and bring the edge machine(s) into the lpnet pool | 23:44 |
| wgrant | True. | 23:44 |
| poolie | wallyworld: is bug 636930 now fixed in launchpad, or at least inprogress? | 23:44 |
| wgrant | As well as looking for any authenticated edge API requests and severely chastising those users. | 23:44 |
| _mup_ | Bug #636930: Upgrading a repository fails with 'Inter1and2Helper' object has no attribute 'source_repo' <bazaar> <sru> <upgrade> <verification-done> <Bazaar:Fix Released by spiv> <Bazaar 2.2:Fix Released> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Triaged> <bzr (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <bzr (Ubuntu Maverick):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/636930> | 23:44 |
| jml | silly conflict :( | 23:45 |
| * jml runs ec2 land again | 23:45 | |
| poolie | jml, i think my dkim branch just needs to be submitted | 23:46 |
| poolie | it may fail in ec2 | 23:46 |
| jml | poolie: cool. | 23:46 |
| wallyworld | poolie: you mean upgrading lp to use bzr 2.2.1? | 23:46 |
| jml | poolie: I was meaning to ask you | 23:46 |
| poolie | would you be so kind as to send it for me, and i'll in parallel run the tests here and see what happens | 23:46 |
| jml | poolie: I mean, in real time in addition to my earlier askinations | 23:46 |
| jml | poolie: will do. you'll be CCd the results of the run | 23:46 |
| spiv | 'bzr ping lp:bzr' still reports 2.2.0, so I don't think 636930 is fix released yet. | 23:46 |
| wallyworld | poolie: spiv: i have tried for several days to land the @%@! fix but we seem to be permanently in textfix mode :-( | 23:47 |
| wallyworld | ie my lp-land keeps getting rejected | 23:47 |
| jml | poolie: conflicts | 23:47 |
| jml | poolie: also, commit message | 23:47 |
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| poolie | jml, ok, it's on my queue to fix them, test, and then i'll let you know | 23:49 |
| jml | poolie: thanks. If I hear from you, I'll land it tomorrow | 23:50 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: they won't | 23:54 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: I filed a bug on foundations if you want the gory details | 23:54 |
| lifeless | my current basic plan is - shrink edge as fast as we can | 23:55 |
| lifeless | keep looking at how to fold the machines into the one cluster | 23:55 |
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