[04:09] <phillw> !man
[04:15] <head_victim> !woman
[04:15] <head_victim> So many jokes, so little time.
[06:38] <mbergamo> hey everyone, sorry to bother you but i have a quick question. i set up a partition for lubuntu but my wireless (and wired) internet wont work. I have a broadcom BCM4321 and it works on Ubuntu, but without any internet connection I'm struggling with getting it on my Lubuntu 10.04. I downloaded the appropiate .deb file but whenever I try to move it from Ubuntu to my Lubuntu partition it says 'error opening file, permission deni
[06:38] <mbergamo> ed'. I tried sudo cp <.deb_file> /dev/sda5/home/<user>/  but its saying "no such file or directory", does anyone have any idea on how to set this up?
[06:45] <phillw> mbergamo: I think it's beacause you have to agree online to their Terms and conditions, let me do a bit of digging.
[06:46] <phillw> mbergamo: have read of the stickie on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 if it does not help then post a question with the lubuntu tag on it.
[06:46] <mbergamo> phillw: thank you, i've been looking for the last like 2-3 days but can't find anything. all the info for ubuntu (which i used to get hooked up on this partition) don't seem to work for lubuntu
[06:48] <phillw> I used a wired connection to install the broadcom driver on a laptop, so I cannot really help if you want to do it by a deb.
[06:48] <mbergamo> phillw: yeah thats what i did for this ubuntu partition i'm on now, but for some reason my wired connection won't work for lubuntu either. i feel like it would be so much easier that way.
[06:52] <phillw> This is not really advised, but when you get permission denied when you issue a command type in sudo before it
[06:53] <phillw> mbergamo: you are taking off the self protection that *buntu has as you are "forcing" it to carry out a command
[06:54] <mbergamo> phillw: yeah i've tried using sudo cp <mount, file, etc> but it's still coming bacj with an error.
[06:55] <phillw> do an ls first an ensure you've got the path and filename correct.
[07:02] <ubuXubu>  try sudo dhclient eth0
[07:07] <ubuXubu> Open a Terminal and input the command: lspci
[07:07] <ubuXubu> This will list all pci devices.
[07:07] <ubuXubu> What does it say for network adapter?
[07:07] <phillw> !pastebin
[07:11] <mbergamo> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 05)
[07:12] <mbergamo> oops he left
[07:15] <head_victim> Are you sure it's linked to /dev/sda5 ?
[07:16] <head_victim> I don't think it's a priviledge thing it's suggest the file isn't where you're pointing to.
[07:16] <mbergamo> yeah that was my impression as well
[07:17] <mbergamo> but i'm on gparted and the partition is /dev/sda5
[07:17] <head_victim> I would double and triple check the location if it's still not working put it on a cd or usb you can insert in the lubuntu so that you are certain you have access to it and it's readable
[07:17] <head_victim> mbergamo: have you mounted it?
[07:18] <head_victim> It might not be automounting if it's not associated with that boot
[07:18] <mbergamo> yes its mounted but i did it outside of the terminal. its listed as '20GB filesystem' or '5d55b95d-...-...-etc'
[07:20] <mbergamo> both of which i have tried :/
[07:21] <mbergamo> head_victim: sorry, i'm a total noob when it comes to setting up a wireless connection, without a wired connection
[07:22] <head_victim> That's ok I've never used wireless under Ubuntu in about 3 years.
[07:24] <head_victim> Ok can you find the file with a graphical browser (PCmanFM)?
[07:26] <mbergamo> the file manager? yes i can.
[07:26] <head_victim> Can you click and drag to the desktop or somewhere else?
[07:26] <head_victim> Or does that give the same error?
[07:28] <mbergamo> the broadcom.deb file or the PCmanFM
[07:28] <head_victim> ok what I suggest is if you type into a terminal "sudo chown YourUserName /part/to/file" and then retry the copying. This will tell the file that you own it rather than the other user where it's currently located.
[07:28] <head_victim> The deb file
[07:29] <mbergamo> yeah i can send it to the desktop mo problem. i just cant send it to my root or the partition
[07:30] <mbergamo> i figured it might be a chown/chmod issue
[07:31] <mbergamo> do i do the chown on the lubuntu partition or the ubuntu one?
[07:31] <head_victim> Just the file you want to copy.
[07:32] <head_victim> So it would be "sudo chown YourUserName /path/to/driver.deb
[07:33] <mbergamo> ok i did that without issue
[07:34] <head_victim> So now try to copy it again
[07:35] <mbergamo> when i try and just drag it from my "Downloads" folder to the partition it says 'Error opening file '/media/5d55b95d-2e22-49af-bc8e-525c77e0565d/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36+bdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb': Permission denied'. when i put in 'sudo cp bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36+bdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb /dev/sda5/home/mike' (from the Downloads folder) it says 'cp: accessing `/dev/sda5/home/mike': Not a directory'
[07:38] <head_victim> Do you have a folder that is in /home called /mike ?
[07:39] <mbergamo> yup
[07:40] <head_victim> And is it on /dev/sda5 ?
[07:40] <head_victim> I would try something like sudo cp driver-long-name-here.deb /home/mike/
[07:41] <head_victim> Or is the /dev/sda5 the lubuntu install sorry I"m getting myself confused.
[07:41] <head_victim> I still say if you have a usb drive just use that.
[07:41] <mbergamo> ok i'll try the usb
[07:43] <head_victim> I have to head out to pick up the wife from work.
[07:44] <head_victim> I should be back in 30 - 45 minutes though. Hopefully the USB works or someone else can help out though
[07:44] <mbergamo> ok thanks a lot head_victim
[07:44] <mbergamo> i appreciate the help
[07:45] <head_victim> So yeah try to copy to usb then boot into lubuntu and copy from usb to lubuntu folder and that should work
[07:45] <mbergamo> ok will do, thanks!
[08:18] <head_victim> How did it go mbergamo ?
[08:20] <mbergamo> i moved this file over (http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source). and it said it depends on the other 4 packages listed, so i brought those over and it said they are all dependent on even more programs.
[08:20] <mbergamo> i'm thinking about just working my way all the way down :/
[08:22] <mbergamo> thats why this would be so much easier with an internet connection, i could just bring all these down with one simple apt-get
[08:31] <head_victim> Hmmm
[08:32] <head_victim> mbergamo: hang on a tick I have a guide that you will find REALLY useful
[08:32] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Synaptic/PackageDownloadScript
[08:33] <head_victim> You go to your lubuntu, open synaptic and select what it is you want to install (it should auto select dependencies) and instead of installing you select File and then generate package download script
[08:33] <mbergamo> i'll give this a read, thank you very much :)
[08:34] <head_victim> It then saves a script you can take to your computer WITH the internet and automatically get all the required packages to put on your usb to take back to lubuntu
[08:34] <head_victim> Sorry if I had of thought it was going to be more than one package I would have started with this.
[08:44] <head_victim> If you lived in Brisbane I could just bring around my drive with a copy of the entire repository on it :)
[08:46] <mbergamo> New Jersey, US, only half way around the world, too far?
[08:46] <head_victim> Hah carrier pigeon?
[08:49] <mbergamo> that poor bird
[08:51] <head_victim> Well I have to head off again. It should do what you need as long as the instructions are clear enough.
[08:51] <mbergamo> yeah i'm trying to follow it step by step
[08:51] <mbergamo> thanks again for the help
[08:51] <head_victim> No worries mate, sorry I can't hang around longer.
[10:18] <rigved> hi everyone
[10:19] <rigved> so i am about to install lubuntu on top of ubuntu and remove gnome completely, using steps suggested earlier
[10:20] <rigved> i just wanted to know can i install empathy on lubuntu?
[10:20] <kosaidpo> rigved: yeh you can but i advice you to try pidgin its really great
[10:21] <rigved> kosaidpo: ok. and what about openoffice.org?
[10:21] <rigved> is that available too
[10:22] <kosaidpo> rigved: infact i dont need it but you can use abiword for writing and gnumeric
[10:22] <kosaidpo> as excel
[10:24] <rigved> kosaidpo: ok. i just wanted to make sure that i can still read .docx and .xlsx files from my windows drive.
[10:25] <kosaidpo> rigved: abiword gives you the abiltiy to read many diffrent files type n save em too iif you want
[10:27] <rigved> kosaidpo: ok. thanx for help
[10:27] <kosaidpo> rigved: your welcom
[11:13] <NativeAngels> Hello
[11:24] <friTTe|> \o
[11:33] <phillw> cking people.
[12:31] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[12:31] <szczur> hi kristian-aalborg
[12:32] <kristian-aalborg> about to put lubuntu on an Eee 701 / 2G Surf
[12:47] <kristian-aalborg> I have slitaz on it already, so I might be asking for some help w/ partitioning
[12:49] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, this one is easy, choose "use entire disk" ;)
[12:49] <kristian-aalborg> pffft :P
[12:50] <kristian-aalborg> hi bioterror, I believe we have met before
[12:50] <bioterror> we have
[12:51] <kristian-aalborg> 3.2 gigs of space!?
[12:51] <bioterror> ?
[12:51] <kristian-aalborg> the installer says I should have that
[12:52] <bioterror> it's suggested
[12:52] <kristian-aalborg> I have 1g available :(
[12:52] <kristian-aalborg> I think I'll get an SD card, they're very cheap now
[12:52] <bioterror> those are
[12:53] <kristian-aalborg> what was the name of the Apogee game with the guy called Snake who was battling aliens?
[12:57] <bioterror> that matches to many games :D
[12:57] <bioterror> by 3D Realms/Apogee
[12:58] <kristian-aalborg> oh, it was Bio Menace
[12:59] <kristian-aalborg> it was awesome, and the cut scenes were well written pathos
[12:59] <kristian-aalborg> but, does Lubuntu really eat 3,2 gigs on default install?
[13:00] <bioterror> nope
[13:00] <bioterror> but you must have space to grow
[13:00] <bioterror> my installation takes 1.4GB
[13:00] <bioterror> atm
[13:05] <kristian-aalborg> I have 1 gb available... will that do for the base install?
[13:06] <bioterror> should do
[13:09] <kristian-aalborg> anyone tried lubuntu on pre-2000 hardware?
[13:20] <bioterror> sorry, I dont have a museum in here ;)
[13:21] <szczur> i did installation on PII 400 MHz/256MB SDRAM 100MHz/6GB HDD/Matrox MGA 200 and Celeron 333 MHZ/256MB SDRAM 133MHz/4GB HDD/GeForce 2 MX 400 and it was working well i'd say :)
[13:21] <szczur> Matrox card have 8MB onboard memory and GeForce have 32 MB
[13:23] <szczur> Watching movies with gnome-mplayer, browsing with Midori and listening to music with MOC
[13:24] <szczur> average MEM usage was around 120MB while browsing web (depends od the webpage, forget about flash/heavy JS scripts)
[13:25] <szczur> and watching flv movies is rather painful (depends on the resolution, converting to avi helps a lot)
[13:25] <kristian-aalborg> flash sucks
[13:26] <kristian-aalborg> I might give lubuntu a spin on my old laptop
[13:27] <bioterror> I think you have to give it a spin with 10.04
[13:27] <kristian-aalborg> what's the default root pw on the installer?... I forgot
[13:27] <bioterror> there's no root
[13:27] <kristian-aalborg> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:770
[13:27] <kristian-aalborg> box is very old... I'd have to tweak lubuntu
[13:27] <bioterror> :G
[13:28] <szczur> kristian-aalborg, you will have to go with 10.04 since 10.10 kernel dropped suport for i586 CPUs
[13:28] <szczur> and i'd recommend installation from mini.iso
[13:28] <kristian-aalborg> szczur: thanks, will keep that in mind
[13:29] <bioterror> tbqh I would recommend recycling ;)
[13:29] <szczur> ohh, there's not enough memory
[13:29] <szczur> 32 MB is waaay below running ubuntu
[13:29] <szczur> in any flavour
[13:29] <kristian-aalborg> it's a fun project to see how much you can get out of that old box
[13:29] <szczur> kristian-aalborg, it will be rather painful experience
[13:29] <szczur> ^^
[13:30] <kristian-aalborg> I have more rams than that... I'll have 256 when I find somebody who'll sell it cheap enough ;)
[13:30] <bioterror> I could understand if you were a coder and you're trying to get some juices off from a machines like vic20 or c16
[13:30] <szczur> heh :)
[13:30] <bioterror> but old x86 hardware
[13:30] <kristian-aalborg> szczur: I have it booting to a nice desktop in 30 secs or so - is that painful? ;)
[13:30] <szczur> lunix on C64 <3
[13:30] <bioterror> ;)
[13:30] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: this is a classic machine, it's on the ISS
[13:31] <szczur> depends on what desktop do you have there ;>
[13:31] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, I had 560Z and I hated it :D
[13:31] <kristian-aalborg> szczur: enlightenment
[13:31] <bioterror> and it was like a dream machine copared to your 770
[13:31] <szczur> ohh, great :)
[13:31] <szczur> nice DM
[13:31] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, dr17 or dr16?
[13:31] <kristian-aalborg> dr17
[13:32] <kristian-aalborg> tbh, I've seen many laptops that were crap compared to this in some ways
[13:32] <kristian-aalborg> keyboard is really nice, for instance
[13:32] <bioterror> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:560Z that's what I had
[13:34] <bioterror> then I've got T23, T30, T40, few Dell D600's
[13:34] <bioterror> and one fujitsu-siemens lifebook
[13:34] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: have you got some RAM to sell? ;)
[13:34] <kristian-aalborg> thinkpads are ace
[13:34] <bioterror> not for that kind of machine
[13:34] <bioterror> thinkpads with black enter key
[13:35] <kristian-aalborg> I think it's fun to find the proper apps and setups for a modest machine
[13:35] <kristian-aalborg> and typically, the simpler program is better
[13:36] <kristian-aalborg> or you could do things in a single command that your *buntu habits have you install a huge GUI for
[13:37] <kristian-aalborg> I want to run parted before install, but it wants a pw?
[13:38] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, just press enter?
[13:39] <kristian-aalborg> "you are not superuser. Watch out for permission"
[13:40] <bioterror> sudo?
[13:40] <kristian-aalborg> d'oh!
[13:40] <kristian-aalborg> is there a gui for parted on lubuntu?
[13:40] <kristian-aalborg> no gparted, it seems...
[13:42] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install gparted
[13:42] <kristian-aalborg> where does it installl to when ran like this? RAM?
[13:42] <bioterror> something like that
[13:43] <kristian-aalborg> ext2 or ext3 for lubuntu?
[13:44] <zkriesse_> Hey bioterror
[13:44] <bioterror> hi zkriesse_
[13:44] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, ext4 ;)
[13:45] <bioterror> there's really no idea to use ext2 since it's  not journaling filesystem
[13:45] <bioterror> and ext3 is just ext2 with journaling and ext4 is closed to what filesystems should be in a year 2010
[13:45] <bioterror> close*
[13:47] <kristian-aalborg> I saw somewhere that you should not use a journaling fs on a flash hdd?
[13:50] <bioterror> it depends
[13:50] <bioterror> are you 100% sure that you're doing graceful shutdowns
[13:50] <bioterror> and what if you're not
[13:50] <kristian-aalborg> who can be sure about that?
[13:50] <bioterror> up to you
[13:50] <bioterror> someone who says that you should not use journaling on flash/ssd's ;)
[13:51] <kristian-aalborg> every machine freaks out now and then
[14:05] <kristian-aalborg> I'd be able to substitute xfce with enlightenment rather painlessly, amirite?
[14:05] <bioterror> why not
[14:28] <kristian-aalborg> hurm
[14:28] <kristian-aalborg> I get "no root file system is defined"
[14:29] <kristian-aalborg> I made an ext4 part. out of the remaining hdd
[14:29] <bioterror> maybe you should define one?
[14:30] <kristian-aalborg> where do I do that?
[14:31] <bioterror> when you chose to format that space as a ext4, you usually sai that it's /
[14:31] <bioterror> say
[14:34] <kristian-aalborg> it's /dev/hda2 now
[14:34] <kristian-aalborg> /dev/sda2
[14:38] <kristian-aalborg> there it was ;)
[14:39] <kristian-aalborg> hmm
[14:39] <kristian-aalborg> it says the partition should be at least 2,8 GB
[14:44] <kristian-aalborg> ah nm I'll wait until I got the SD card
[14:45] <bioterror> :D
[14:56] <sultan2> bioterror: where are you?
[14:56] <sultan2> come back home
[15:02] <kosaidpo> sultan2: hello,salam
[15:02] <sultan2> ahalan, ya kosaidpo :D
[15:06] <kosaidpo> : D sultan2 where are you from
[15:06] <sultan2> Israel
[15:07] <kosaidpo> from your pseudo i said this guy must be you kno
[15:07] <kosaidpo> whoa
[15:07] <sultan2> hehehe
[15:07] <kosaidpo> sultan2: isreal
[15:07] <kosaidpo> ??
[15:07] <kosaidpo> im so sure your not
[15:07] <kosaidpo> sultan2: what you think then
[15:07] <sultan2> why not?
[15:08] <sultan2> about what?
[15:08] <kosaidpo> you mean your not muslim ?
[15:08] <sultan2> Israel has muslim people too
[15:08] <sultan2> what is the problem?
[15:09] <kosaidpo> sultan join this room #lubuntu-offtopic for chillin
[15:09] <kosaidpo> sultan2: nvm
[15:09] <sultan2> ok
[15:11] <sultan2> AndrewLee: are you affiliated with TPFC (the PORTABLE FREEWARE collection)?
[15:15] <kosaidpo> guys on a mac how i  can activate a usb port or w.e port ??
[15:50] <kosaidpo> phillw: got any idea abt that tool apt-fast ?? is it good ??
[16:09] <bioterror> apt-fast? :D
[16:12] <bioterror> ahhh
[16:12] <bioterror> kosaidpo, what's your connection speed atm?
[16:13] <kosaidpo> now ??well i dk im in a network at work
[16:14] <kosaidpo> so no idea
[16:14] <kosaidpo> bioterror: why ??
[16:14] <bioterror> what's the real benefit of apt-fast
[16:15] <kosaidpo> well i read that its faster at dl pxkges n stuff
[16:15] <kosaidpo> well i posted the question to more info abt it tho
[16:16] <kosaidpo> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/new-apt-fast-version-now-with-full-full.html bioterror
[16:16] <bioterror> well
[16:16] <bioterror> I'm using wlan
[16:17] <bioterror> Fetched 7,696kB in 11s (665kB/s)
[16:17] <bioterror> isnt that fast enuff for you?
[16:17] <bioterror> and I did not bomb 10 different mirrors
[16:18] <kosaidpo> bioterror: dude then why you always wish to get th latest pc's
[16:18] <bioterror> I just used one
[16:18] <kosaidpo> you us human our satisfaction my not found its satisfaction so yeah
[16:18] <bioterror> what?
[16:18] <kosaidpo> us human ..... may ....
[16:18] <kosaidpo> sorry for the typo
[16:19] <kosaidpo> isnt p4 pc faste
[16:19] <bioterror> depends
[16:19] <kosaidpo> so why we goin for those other
[16:19] <kosaidpo> hahaha
[16:19] <bioterror> if it's above 2GHz it's hyper threading
[16:19] <kosaidpo> so it deponds too for that apt-fast dont you think
[16:19] <bioterror> but 1.4GHz P3 beats the shit out of 1.8GHz P4
[16:20] <kosaidpo> bioterror: uhmmm
[16:44] <naji-ji> hi . can I install software centre in Lubuntu
[16:45] <bioterror> if you want
[16:45] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install software-center
[16:45] <bioterror> gnome-app-install - dummy upgrade package for gnome-app-install -> software-center
[16:46] <bioterror> but is it really necessary?
[16:47] <naji-ji> asif@asif-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install software-cetre
[16:47] <naji-ji> [sudo] password for asif:
[16:47] <naji-ji> Reading package lists... Done
[16:47] <naji-ji> Building dependency tree
[16:47] <naji-ji> Reading state information... Done
[16:47] <naji-ji> E: Couldn't find package software-cetre
[16:47] <naji-ji> asif@asif-desktop:~$
[16:47] <naji-ji> does not work
[16:48] <naji-ji> any idea
[16:49] <bioterror> yeah
[16:50] <bioterror> I dont want to be a rude, but you should learn to read a little more better ;)
[16:52] <naji-ji> sorry i had bad speelings . its working now .
[16:53] <naji-ji> here center is spelled centre
[16:53] <bioterror> :)
[16:53] <naji-ji> ma be its french
[16:53] <bioterror> sounds like swedish :D
[16:55] <naji-ji> u from..?
[17:00] <naji-ji> I have installed it . thank you . I didnt know it could be done .
[17:09] <Timo_> bioterror: in action again I see?:D
[17:10] <Timo_> well I'm going to get in action IRL. Have to make some lasagna
[19:10] <home-alone> hi . is there radio listening available
[19:12] <mark76> Yes
[19:12] <mark76> In your imaginaaation!
[19:12] <bioterror> :D
[19:13] <bioterror> kevin, go to your room, now! ;D
[19:13] <bioterror> it's almost x-mas
[19:14] <mark76> I don't remember those ones
[19:14] <home-alone> any online multiplayer games ..
[19:15] <home-alone> i am bored today
[19:15] <mark76> Lots
[19:15] <mark76> If you like FPS
[19:15] <home-alone> well fps make me sick
[19:15] <home-alone> puzzle or platform
[19:16] <mark76> What about RTS?
[19:16] <mark76> Or TBS?
[19:18] <home-alone> what are those
[19:18] <bioterror> real time strategy
[19:18] <mark76> Real Time Strategy or Turn Based Strategy
[19:18] <bioterror> turn based strategy
[19:18] <bioterror> :D
[19:19] <mark76> Of course, they cost you. Nothing's free these days
[19:19] <home-alone> ya they are fun . but i am looking for online multiplayer
[19:19] <mark76> they = they'll
[19:19] <home-alone> i am looking for free games ...
[19:21] <bioterror> Jagged Alliance 2 interests me
[19:21] <home-alone> this is linux honey , i am supposed to get free stuff
[19:22] <bioterror> RHEL is not free ;)
[19:24] <home-alone> I no more pay for any software , i have left micro$oft
[19:25] <bioterror> if something is good enough, you dont want to pay for it just to support?
[19:26] <home-alone> you are right , we need more games coming to linux this can only be done if we pay them
[19:30] <home-alone> how to quote other in this...???
[20:25] <Renderwahn> is there a nice timer applet for the panel? the gnome ones don't work as far as i can tell
[20:26] <bioterror> and that timer does what?
[20:27] <Renderwahn> a tea timer
[20:27] <Renderwahn> simple count dowan
[20:27] <Renderwahn> *down
[20:27] <Renderwahn> i'll just try anything timer related i can find with synaptic :D
[20:28] <bioterror> szczur once made one application to someone if I remember right
[20:30] <Renderwahn> looks like kteatime works \o/
[20:30] <Renderwahn> but the k in it's name makes me sceptical :D
[20:30] <bioterror> hahaha
[20:30] <szczur> hmm, i did shutdown, not the timer :)
[20:31] <bioterror> how many k-dependencies you got?
[20:31] <Renderwahn> i already have some kde stuff installed, so i got none
[20:31] <bioterror> nice
[20:31] <Renderwahn> but last time i started something beginning with a k all hell broke loose
[20:31] <Renderwahn> it started a dozen services and my little laptop became almost unusable :D
[20:32] <Renderwahn> or maybe it was just one service, but anyway, it was nasty
[20:32] <bioterror> that's what K does
[20:32] <bioterror> that nasty green dragon
[20:33] <Renderwahn> fat green dragon
[20:53] <skrite> hey all
[20:53] <skrite> great little distro you have here.
[20:54] <NativeAngels> hello
[21:46] <kosaidpo> guys
[21:46] <kosaidpo> i have in my hdd first windows installed
[21:46] <kosaidpo> so can i remove safly with no surprise ??
[21:46] <mark76> 1.0?
[21:46] <mark76> Yeah. It's way old
[21:47] <kosaidpo> mark76: any idea
[21:55] <mark76> Nope
[21:56] <mark76> Why have you got such an antique version of Windows on your computer?
[21:57] <kosaidpo> mark76: cus im antique i got xp and lbunut hahaha
[21:57] <kosaidpo> its okay im goin to sleep now
[21:57] <mark76> K
[21:57] <kosaidpo> tom ichallah at work
[21:57] <kosaidpo> have fun guys
[21:57] <kosaidpo> peace out
[21:57] <mark76> Night night :)