| === tremmons is now known as iflema | ||
| kaushal | hi | 05:27 |
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| kaushal | can someone please guide me about writing Makefiles ? | 05:27 |
| darkrose | http://mrbook.org/tutorials/make/ | 05:29 |
| kaushal | darkrose: Thanks | 05:30 |
| kaushal | Also just curious to know what is the main purpose of .h files | 05:30 |
| kaushal | I mean header files | 05:30 |
| darkrose | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Header_file | 05:33 |
| lalya | hello? | 12:18 |
| nisshh | hi | 12:18 |
| nisshh | ok, so what dont you understand? | 12:18 |
| lalya | i just installed ubuntu 10.10 | 12:19 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:19 |
| lalya | but I dont like that when I start up my laptop | 12:19 |
| lalya | there's that ugly grub menu with a bunch of options.. | 12:19 |
| lalya | is it possible to delete it | 12:19 |
| nisshh | ah | 12:19 |
| lalya | and just run ubuntu first option? | 12:19 |
| nisshh | lalya, are you dual booting windows and ubuntu? | 12:19 |
| lalya | i tried to see in administration if there were any settings control it | 12:19 |
| lalya | but there's nothing | 12:20 |
| lalya | yes | 12:20 |
| nisshh | ah ok | 12:20 |
| lalya | I have both win and ubuntu now | 12:20 |
| nisshh | do you still want to use windows? | 12:20 |
| lalya | the problem is this | 12:20 |
| lalya | windows already has its boot menu | 12:20 |
| lalya | but when i choose linux | 12:20 |
| nisshh | yes | 12:20 |
| lalya | then it comes up this grub menu also | 12:20 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:20 |
| lalya | i just would like to bypass that | 12:20 |
| nisshh | grub is ubuntu's "boot menu" | 12:21 |
| lalya | and when i click linux i get ubuntu straight | 12:21 |
| nisshh | lalya, are you by chance using Wubi? | 12:21 |
| lalya | is there any setting like "skip grub"? | 12:21 |
| lalya | I dont know i just installed this ubuntu yesterday.... i dont know anything :( | 12:21 |
| lalya | wubi is a brand of wurstel here :( | 12:22 |
| lalya | but i dont think u mean that | 12:22 |
| nisshh | thats ok | 12:22 |
| nisshh | i know what you are using | 12:22 |
| nisshh | lalya, im not sure that there is a way of not showing grub at startup | 12:23 |
| nisshh | but i can certainly show you how to make it so it shows for a few seconds then automatically boots you into linux | 12:23 |
| nisshh | although | 12:23 |
| lalya | ohh | 12:23 |
| nisshh | you will have to use the command line | 12:23 |
| lalya | yes if possible we can put to.. 1 seconds | 12:24 |
| lalya | or even 0,5 | 12:24 |
| nisshh | there is no GUI for this | 12:24 |
| lalya | i know how to open terminal | 12:24 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:24 |
| nisshh | !it | 12:24 |
| lubotu2 | Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 12:24 |
| lalya | i dont like italians :( | 12:24 |
| lalya | they are rude | 12:25 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:25 |
| nisshh | anyway | 12:25 |
| nisshh | there is a way to make grub not show at boot, i just remembered how | 12:25 |
| lalya | oh oh! :) | 12:26 |
| lalya | thats good! | 12:26 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:26 |
| lalya | how? i am in termina | 12:26 |
| lalya | terminal | 12:26 |
| nisshh | lalya, one moment, i just need to make sure its the same (grub has changed, im not familiar with the new version) | 12:27 |
| nisshh | lalya, ok, are you ready? | 12:29 |
| nisshh | lalya, ? | 12:29 |
| nisshh | lalya, you still there? | 12:31 |
| lalya | yes | 12:31 |
| lalya | im here! | 12:31 |
| nisshh | :) | 12:31 |
| lalya | ready to try the trick | 12:31 |
| nisshh | thought you had nicked off :) | 12:31 |
| lalya | if its available | 12:31 |
| lalya | no no i'm here!! | 12:31 |
| nisshh | yes | 12:31 |
| nisshh | it should work | 12:31 |
| lalya | im positive that we can do it | 12:31 |
| nisshh | so, open a terminal | 12:32 |
| lalya | yues | 12:32 |
| lalya | im there | 12:32 |
| nisshh | and in there please type this command exactly and hit enter: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub | 12:32 |
| nisshh | but DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN THAT FILE YET | 12:33 |
| lalya | done! | 12:33 |
| lalya | it opens a notepad | 12:33 |
| lalya | a sort of notepad | 12:33 |
| nisshh | a notebad? | 12:33 |
| nisshh | notepad? | 12:33 |
| lalya | well a text editor | 12:33 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:33 |
| nisshh | thats what it should open | 12:33 |
| nisshh | lalya, ok, in that file there should be a line similar to this: GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 | 12:34 |
| nisshh | find that line | 12:34 |
| lalya | oh yes | 12:35 |
| lalya | there's exactly that string | 12:35 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:35 |
| nisshh | good | 12:35 |
| lalya | do i have to put it at zero?? | 12:36 |
| nisshh | yes | 12:36 |
| nisshh | just change the 10 to 0 | 12:36 |
| nisshh | NOTHING ELSE | 12:36 |
| lalya | ok!! | 12:36 |
| lalya | when i press SAVE | 12:36 |
| lalya | in the terminal behind that text editor | 12:36 |
| lalya | i see some strings | 12:36 |
| lalya | like | 12:36 |
| nisshh | lalya, sorry if im being a bit paranoid, its just that playing with the boot files can be a bit crazy sometimes | 12:36 |
| lalya | error: line26: bad flagvector | 12:37 |
| nisshh | its easy to break grub | 12:37 |
| lalya | and same for line 3, 7, 10, 12.. and others... | 12:37 |
| lalya | should i ignore them? | 12:37 |
| nisshh | lalya, dont worry about those, they are just output from gedit | 12:37 |
| lalya | ok.. lets reboot and see... | 12:37 |
| nisshh | no, not yet! | 12:37 |
| lalya | ohh | 12:37 |
| nisshh | save and close the file | 12:38 |
| lalya | i did | 12:38 |
| lalya | i also closed terminal | 12:38 |
| nisshh | and now we need to execute a command | 12:38 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:38 |
| nisshh | open another terminal | 12:38 |
| lalya | yes | 12:38 |
| nisshh | and run this command exactly like this: sudo update-grub | 12:38 |
| lalya | oh | 12:39 |
| nisshh | let me know when thats done | 12:39 |
| lalya | it did some things | 12:39 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:39 |
| lalya | found linux image and bla bla bla | 12:39 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:39 |
| lalya | and then at the end .. done | 12:39 |
| nisshh | thats normal | 12:39 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:39 |
| nisshh | now that is done | 12:39 |
| lalya | should i reboot? | 12:39 |
| nisshh | NOW you can reboot :) | 12:39 |
| nisshh | go for it | 12:39 |
| lalya | oh! | 12:40 |
| lalya | dev/sda3: Hard Disk Failure | 12:40 |
| lalya | be safe!! :)) I was kidding!! | 12:41 |
| lalya | it worked flawlessy :) | 12:41 |
| nisshh | that wasnt funny | 12:41 |
| nisshh | i almost died :) | 12:41 |
| lalya | eheheh dont worry :)) its all okay!! | 12:41 |
| nisshh | good | 12:41 |
| nisshh | lalya, anything else i can help you with? | 12:41 |
| lalya | another little things! this is easier i think | 12:42 |
| lalya | everytime i boot up this ubuntu | 12:42 |
| lalya | and also now it did | 12:42 |
| nisshh | yep | 12:42 |
| lalya | it asks for the password to unlock the key-thing | 12:42 |
| lalya | why? | 12:42 |
| nisshh | you mean it asks you to login? | 12:42 |
| lalya | no its something different | 12:42 |
| lalya | something about that something needs the password | 12:42 |
| lalya | to access | 12:42 |
| lalya | and if i dont put it | 12:43 |
| lalya | the app will not start | 12:43 |
| nisshh | ah | 12:43 |
| nisshh | which application is this? | 12:43 |
| lalya | i will reboot again to see better | 12:43 |
| lalya | what it asks | 12:43 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:43 |
| lalya | ok | 12:44 |
| lalya | the windows says | 12:44 |
| lalya | "insert the password of the keychain" default to unlock it" | 12:44 |
| lalya | an application wants to access to keychain default but this is blocked | 12:45 |
| lalya | it doesnt say which application is | 12:45 |
| nisshh | lalya, which application are you trying to open when this happens? | 12:45 |
| lalya | but i didnt install anything | 12:45 |
| lalya | i dont know, because it happens at boot | 12:45 |
| lalya | I dont do anything | 12:45 |
| nisshh | it happens at boot? | 12:45 |
| lalya | i just have to unlock this "keychain" with the password | 12:46 |
| lalya | otherwise i cannot go on | 12:46 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:46 |
| nisshh | does it happen before the login screen or after the login screen? | 12:46 |
| lalya | can we disable this keychain | 12:46 |
| lalya | so all applications can access it without asking me^ | 12:46 |
| lalya | i dont have any login screen | 12:46 |
| lalya | just that popup | 12:46 |
| nisshh | ah | 12:47 |
| nisshh | ok | 12:47 |
| lalya | i see already the desktop and i can move thru menus | 12:47 |
| nisshh | right | 12:47 |
| nisshh | so this pops up AFTER you get to the desktop? | 12:47 |
| lalya | but i cannot click on menus until i enter the password there, to unlock that thing | 12:47 |
| darkrose | auto login forces gnome keyring to require auth | 12:47 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:47 |
| lalya | it pop ups ..while booting | 12:47 |
| nisshh | what darkrose said | 12:47 |
| lalya | oh yes, its keyring not keychain lol my bad english | 12:48 |
| lalya | thanks rose :) | 12:48 |
| nisshh | lalya, if you disable auto login, you will have to login, but you wont have to unlock the keyring | 12:48 |
| lalya | rose or nish, is it possible to prevent keyring to ask authorization and handle this automatically? | 12:48 |
| nisshh | lalya, its probably possible but 1) its a bad idea and 2) i dont know how | 12:49 |
| lalya | i prefer the login screen | 12:49 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:49 |
| lalya | than this thing asking auth | 12:49 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:49 |
| lalya | because on the login screen | 12:49 |
| jfer | it can be done buy setting the keychain password to nothing | 12:49 |
| lalya | i can use my finger with the fingerstrip | 12:49 |
| lalya | and dont need to type anything. here instead i have to input password by text | 12:49 |
| nisshh | so just go to System > Administration > Login screen and disable the auto login | 12:50 |
| lalya | but... this keyring asking auth.. shows up to everyone of you then? :( | 12:50 |
| nisshh | no | 12:50 |
| nisshh | i have auto login disabled | 12:50 |
| lalya | but I made a default installation... | 12:50 |
| nisshh | so it doesnt | 12:50 |
| lalya | so by default, they put? | 12:50 |
| nisshh | lalya, you must have fiddled with a setting | 12:51 |
| lalya | well yes | 12:51 |
| lalya | during the installation | 12:51 |
| lalya | it asked for username bla bla bla and pass | 12:51 |
| lalya | usual things | 12:51 |
| lalya | so i typed... | 12:51 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:51 |
| lalya | hmmm | 12:52 |
| lalya | i dont see in system | 12:52 |
| lalya | administration | 12:52 |
| lalya | login screen... | 12:52 |
| lalya | theres... system monitor | 12:52 |
| lalya | users and groups.. | 12:52 |
| lalya | language support.. | 12:52 |
| nisshh | lalya, it is there | 12:54 |
| lalya | settings of the access screen? | 12:56 |
| nisshh | lalya, theres a menu option called "Login Screen" | 12:57 |
| lalya | i have it in italian unfortunately | 12:57 |
| nisshh | ah ok | 12:57 |
| lalya | anyway i opened that menu | 12:57 |
| lalya | and | 12:57 |
| lalya | there are some voices in it | 12:57 |
| lalya | at computer start: | 12:57 |
| nisshh | voices? | 12:57 |
| lalya | reproduce a sound | 12:57 |
| lalya | show the user list | 12:57 |
| nisshh | thats the one | 12:57 |
| lalya | show the screen select user... | 12:58 |
| lalya | oh good | 12:58 |
| nisshh | there should be an option in there about auto login | 12:58 |
| lalya | there's then.. | 12:58 |
| nisshh | find that, and disable it | 12:58 |
| lalya | access with *thinkpad* automatically | 12:58 |
| lalya | yes its checked! | 12:58 |
| nisshh | ah ok | 12:58 |
| lalya | but to uncheck it | 12:58 |
| lalya | i have to check something else | 12:59 |
| nisshh | which is? | 12:59 |
| lalya | i guess.. | 12:59 |
| lalya | show the screen to select user | 12:59 |
| nisshh | thats what you want | 12:59 |
| nisshh | tick that one | 12:59 |
| nisshh | im pretty sure anyway | 12:59 |
| lalya | ok | 12:59 |
| nisshh | based on you translating the italian | 13:00 |
| lalya | yes | 13:00 |
| lalya | i'm rebooting to see | 13:00 |
| nisshh | lalya, anyway, for future reference, #ubuntu-it is where italians should go for support | 13:00 |
| nisshh | this is for Australians this channel | 13:01 |
| lalya | thanks!! | 13:01 |
| lalya | all correct | 13:01 |
| lalya | now i can use my finger to access :) | 13:01 |
| nisshh | cool | 13:01 |
| lalya | oh noooo :(( | 13:01 |
| lalya | the pop up came again! | 13:01 |
| lalya | dammit :/ why? | 13:01 |
| nisshh | i dunno | 13:02 |
| lalya | now i have both login screen, and after... that popup with keyring | 13:02 |
| nisshh | during installation, did you tick the option to "Encrypt my home directory"? | 13:02 |
| jfer | the keyrong is required to access some programs | 13:02 |
| lalya | who wants to access that keychain? | 13:02 |
| jfer | are you using a wifi netowrk? | 13:02 |
| lalya | yes! | 13:02 |
| lalya | you are right!! | 13:02 |
| nisshh | good thinking jfer :) | 13:02 |
| lalya | now that i see.. | 13:02 |
| jfer | is it encrypted? | 13:03 |
| lalya | there's no wifi at top | 13:03 |
| lalya | until i input the pass! | 13:03 |
| lalya | yes | 13:03 |
| nisshh | yeah | 13:03 |
| * nisshh highfives jfer | 13:03 | |
| jfer | because if it is it needs the keychain to unlock it | 13:03 |
| nisshh | nice one | 13:03 |
| lalya | ohhh | 13:03 |
| lalya | but we can modify the wifi | 13:03 |
| jfer | i had this problem on my netbook | 13:03 |
| lalya | not to ask for the keyring? | 13:03 |
| jfer | you can set the keyring password to blank | 13:04 |
| nisshh | lalya, not unless you want to leave your wifi unprotected (meaning anyone can access it) | 13:04 |
| lalya | but.. | 13:04 |
| jfer | that is how i solved the problem | 13:04 |
| lalya | if i put a blank password | 13:04 |
| lalya | then also terminal sudo etc.. | 13:04 |
| lalya | will see a blank password? | 13:04 |
| lalya | or the keychain is something different? | 13:04 |
| jfer | it is different | 13:04 |
| lalya | ohhh | 13:04 |
| nisshh | yeah | 13:04 |
| lalya | ok! then if u can.. | 13:04 |
| lalya | tell me how can i blank this keychain | 13:05 |
| jfer | the keychain stores passwords for other stuff | 13:05 |
| lalya | i dont need it | 13:05 |
| nisshh | jfer, would you mind taking over, i have to go afk | 13:05 |
| jfer | sure | 13:05 |
| lalya | thanks | 13:05 |
| nisshh | thanks :) | 13:05 |
| lalya | for ur great help | 13:05 |
| lalya | nish!! | 13:05 |
| nisshh | no probs lalya :) | 13:05 |
| lalya | hope to see you again someday | 13:05 |
| nisshh | hehe | 13:05 |
| jfer | ok | 13:05 |
| lalya | for maybe other helps | 13:05 |
| lalya | sorry for the heart attack | 13:05 |
| nisshh | lol | 13:06 |
| lalya | about the hdd failure | 13:06 |
| lalya | lol | 13:06 |
| * nisshh is away | 13:06 | |
| lalya | so jfer.. where should i go to empty the keychain?§ | 13:06 |
| jfer | goto system->preferences->passwords and encryption keys | 13:06 |
| lalya | oh yes | 13:07 |
| lalya | i see | 13:07 |
| lalya | password: default | 13:07 |
| lalya | and | 13:07 |
| lalya | password: login | 13:07 |
| jfer | under default you should see infromation about the wifi yes? | 13:07 |
| lalya | yes | 13:07 |
| lalya | network secret..etc | 13:08 |
| jfer | ok right click on default | 13:08 |
| lalya | yes | 13:08 |
| jfer | click change password | 13:08 |
| lalya | properties, delete, block, change pass | 13:08 |
| lalya | ohhh should be all clear | 13:08 |
| lalya | i input my pass | 13:08 |
| lalya | and then the 2 blanks | 13:08 |
| jfer | yep | 13:08 |
| jfer | it should give a warning | 13:09 |
| lalya | yes | 13:09 |
| lalya | now i reboot and see :) | 13:09 |
| jfer | but just accept it | 13:09 |
| lalya | all okay!!! | 13:10 |
| lalya | no more passwords | 13:10 |
| jfer | great! | 13:10 |
| lalya | and. on the other hand... | 13:10 |
| lalya | wifi has even more signal | 13:10 |
| lalya | lol | 13:10 |
| lalya | thanks a lot lot!!! | 13:11 |
| jfer | your welcome | 13:11 |
| jfer | see you i nest get some sleep | 13:11 |
| lalya | i hope to get used to ubuntu soon | 13:11 |
| lalya | have a nice sleep or nap | 13:11 |
| jfer | i am sure you will | 13:11 |
| lalya | whatever that is :) | 13:11 |
| lalya | ops.. yeah in australia should be late already | 13:11 |
| jfer | stick with it | 13:11 |
| lalya | its lunch time here still | 13:11 |
| jfer | it is 11:11pm | 13:11 |
| lalya | goodnite and take care! | 13:12 |
| jfer | enjoy the rest of your day | 13:12 |
| lalya | thanks :) | 13:12 |
| sagaci | quail: nice linux letter | 13:21 |
| sagaci | quail: published in times new roman, love it | 13:22 |
| quail | sagaci: huh? | 13:52 |
| sagaci | quail: the letter your forwarded about the article in the Advertiser | 13:55 |
| quail | ah yeah, it was a good read | 14:01 |
| head_victim | blahdeblah: well my sync will be finished today, if you wanted to drop over and sync off it you'd be welcome to. Easier to keep that up to date then. | 18:50 |
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