=== tremmons is now known as iflema [05:27] hi [05:27] can someone please guide me about writing Makefiles ? [05:29] http://mrbook.org/tutorials/make/ [05:30] darkrose: Thanks [05:30] Also just curious to know what is the main purpose of .h files [05:30] I mean header files [05:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Header_file [12:18] hello? [12:18] hi [12:18] ok, so what dont you understand? [12:19] i just installed ubuntu 10.10 [12:19] yeah [12:19] but I dont like that when I start up my laptop [12:19] there's that ugly grub menu with a bunch of options.. [12:19] is it possible to delete it [12:19] ah [12:19] and just run ubuntu first option? [12:19] lalya, are you dual booting windows and ubuntu? [12:19] i tried to see in administration if there were any settings control it [12:20] but there's nothing [12:20] yes [12:20] ah ok [12:20] I have both win and ubuntu now [12:20] do you still want to use windows? [12:20] the problem is this [12:20] windows already has its boot menu [12:20] but when i choose linux [12:20] yes [12:20] then it comes up this grub menu also [12:20] yeah [12:20] i just would like to bypass that [12:21] grub is ubuntu's "boot menu" [12:21] and when i click linux i get ubuntu straight [12:21] lalya, are you by chance using Wubi? [12:21] is there any setting like "skip grub"? [12:21] I dont know i just installed this ubuntu yesterday.... i dont know anything :( [12:22] wubi is a brand of wurstel here :( [12:22] but i dont think u mean that [12:22] thats ok [12:22] i know what you are using [12:23] lalya, im not sure that there is a way of not showing grub at startup [12:23] but i can certainly show you how to make it so it shows for a few seconds then automatically boots you into linux [12:23] although [12:23] ohh [12:23] you will have to use the command line [12:24] yes if possible we can put to.. 1 seconds [12:24] or even 0,5 [12:24] there is no GUI for this [12:24] i know how to open terminal [12:24] ok [12:24] !it [12:24] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [12:24] i dont like italians :( [12:25] they are rude [12:25] ok [12:25] anyway [12:25] there is a way to make grub not show at boot, i just remembered how [12:26] oh oh! :) [12:26] thats good! [12:26] yeah [12:26] how? i am in termina [12:26] terminal [12:27] lalya, one moment, i just need to make sure its the same (grub has changed, im not familiar with the new version) [12:29] lalya, ok, are you ready? [12:29] lalya, ? [12:31] lalya, you still there? [12:31] yes [12:31] im here! [12:31] :) [12:31] ready to try the trick [12:31] thought you had nicked off :) [12:31] if its available [12:31] no no i'm here!! [12:31] yes [12:31] it should work [12:31] im positive that we can do it [12:32] so, open a terminal [12:32] yues [12:32] im there [12:32] and in there please type this command exactly and hit enter: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub [12:33] but DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN THAT FILE YET [12:33] done! [12:33] it opens a notepad [12:33] a sort of notepad [12:33] a notebad? [12:33] notepad? [12:33] well a text editor [12:33] yeah [12:33] thats what it should open [12:34] lalya, ok, in that file there should be a line similar to this: GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 [12:34] find that line [12:35] oh yes [12:35] there's exactly that string [12:35] ok [12:35] good [12:36] do i have to put it at zero?? [12:36] yes [12:36] just change the 10 to 0 [12:36] NOTHING ELSE [12:36] ok!! [12:36] when i press SAVE [12:36] in the terminal behind that text editor [12:36] i see some strings [12:36] like [12:36] lalya, sorry if im being a bit paranoid, its just that playing with the boot files can be a bit crazy sometimes [12:37] error: line26: bad flagvector [12:37] its easy to break grub [12:37] and same for line 3, 7, 10, 12.. and others... [12:37] should i ignore them? [12:37] lalya, dont worry about those, they are just output from gedit [12:37] ok.. lets reboot and see... [12:37] no, not yet! [12:37] ohh [12:38] save and close the file [12:38] i did [12:38] i also closed terminal [12:38] and now we need to execute a command [12:38] ok [12:38] open another terminal [12:38] yes [12:38] and run this command exactly like this: sudo update-grub [12:39] oh [12:39] let me know when thats done [12:39] it did some things [12:39] yeah [12:39] found linux image and bla bla bla [12:39] yeah [12:39] and then at the end .. done [12:39] thats normal [12:39] ok [12:39] now that is done [12:39] should i reboot? [12:39] NOW you can reboot :) [12:39] go for it [12:40] oh! [12:40] dev/sda3: Hard Disk Failure [12:41] be safe!! :)) I was kidding!! [12:41] it worked flawlessy :) [12:41] that wasnt funny [12:41] i almost died :) [12:41] eheheh dont worry :)) its all okay!! [12:41] good [12:41] lalya, anything else i can help you with? [12:42] another little things! this is easier i think [12:42] everytime i boot up this ubuntu [12:42] and also now it did [12:42] yep [12:42] it asks for the password to unlock the key-thing [12:42] why? [12:42] you mean it asks you to login? [12:42] no its something different [12:42] something about that something needs the password [12:42] to access [12:43] and if i dont put it [12:43] the app will not start [12:43] ah [12:43] which application is this? [12:43] i will reboot again to see better [12:43] what it asks [12:43] yeah [12:44] ok [12:44] the windows says [12:44] "insert the password of the keychain" default to unlock it" [12:45] an application wants to access to keychain default but this is blocked [12:45] it doesnt say which application is [12:45] lalya, which application are you trying to open when this happens? [12:45] but i didnt install anything [12:45] i dont know, because it happens at boot [12:45] I dont do anything [12:45] it happens at boot? [12:46] i just have to unlock this "keychain" with the password [12:46] otherwise i cannot go on [12:46] ok [12:46] does it happen before the login screen or after the login screen? [12:46] can we disable this keychain [12:46] so all applications can access it without asking me^ [12:46] i dont have any login screen [12:46] just that popup [12:47] ah [12:47] ok [12:47] i see already the desktop and i can move thru menus [12:47] right [12:47] so this pops up AFTER you get to the desktop? [12:47] but i cannot click on menus until i enter the password there, to unlock that thing [12:47] auto login forces gnome keyring to require auth [12:47] yeah [12:47] it pop ups ..while booting [12:47] what darkrose said [12:48] oh yes, its keyring not keychain lol my bad english [12:48] thanks rose :) [12:48] lalya, if you disable auto login, you will have to login, but you wont have to unlock the keyring [12:48] rose or nish, is it possible to prevent keyring to ask authorization and handle this automatically? [12:49] lalya, its probably possible but 1) its a bad idea and 2) i dont know how [12:49] i prefer the login screen [12:49] yeah [12:49] than this thing asking auth [12:49] yeah [12:49] because on the login screen [12:49] it can be done buy setting the keychain password to nothing [12:49] i can use my finger with the fingerstrip [12:49] and dont need to type anything. here instead i have to input password by text [12:50] so just go to System > Administration > Login screen and disable the auto login [12:50] but... this keyring asking auth.. shows up to everyone of you then? :( [12:50] no [12:50] i have auto login disabled [12:50] but I made a default installation... [12:50] so it doesnt [12:50] so by default, they put? [12:51] lalya, you must have fiddled with a setting [12:51] well yes [12:51] during the installation [12:51] it asked for username bla bla bla and pass [12:51] usual things [12:51] so i typed... [12:51] yeah [12:52] hmmm [12:52] i dont see in system [12:52] administration [12:52] login screen... [12:52] theres... system monitor [12:52] users and groups.. [12:52] language support.. [12:54] lalya, it is there [12:56] settings of the access screen? [12:57] lalya, theres a menu option called "Login Screen" [12:57] i have it in italian unfortunately [12:57] ah ok [12:57] anyway i opened that menu [12:57] and [12:57] there are some voices in it [12:57] at computer start: [12:57] voices? [12:57] reproduce a sound [12:57] show the user list [12:57] thats the one [12:58] show the screen select user... [12:58] oh good [12:58] there should be an option in there about auto login [12:58] there's then.. [12:58] find that, and disable it [12:58] access with *thinkpad* automatically [12:58] yes its checked! [12:58] ah ok [12:58] but to uncheck it [12:59] i have to check something else [12:59] which is? [12:59] i guess.. [12:59] show the screen to select user [12:59] thats what you want [12:59] tick that one [12:59] im pretty sure anyway [12:59] ok [13:00] based on you translating the italian [13:00] yes [13:00] i'm rebooting to see [13:00] lalya, anyway, for future reference, #ubuntu-it is where italians should go for support [13:01] this is for Australians this channel [13:01] thanks!! [13:01] all correct [13:01] now i can use my finger to access :) [13:01] cool [13:01] oh noooo :(( [13:01] the pop up came again! [13:01] dammit :/ why? [13:02] i dunno [13:02] now i have both login screen, and after... that popup with keyring [13:02] during installation, did you tick the option to "Encrypt my home directory"? [13:02] the keyrong is required to access some programs [13:02] who wants to access that keychain? [13:02] are you using a wifi netowrk? [13:02] yes! [13:02] you are right!! [13:02] good thinking jfer :) [13:02] now that i see.. [13:03] is it encrypted? [13:03] there's no wifi at top [13:03] until i input the pass! [13:03] yes [13:03] yeah [13:03] * nisshh highfives jfer [13:03] because if it is it needs the keychain to unlock it [13:03] nice one [13:03] ohhh [13:03] but we can modify the wifi [13:03] i had this problem on my netbook [13:03] not to ask for the keyring? [13:04] you can set the keyring password to blank [13:04] lalya, not unless you want to leave your wifi unprotected (meaning anyone can access it) [13:04] but.. [13:04] that is how i solved the problem [13:04] if i put a blank password [13:04] then also terminal sudo etc.. [13:04] will see a blank password? [13:04] or the keychain is something different? [13:04] it is different [13:04] ohhh [13:04] yeah [13:04] ok! then if u can.. [13:05] tell me how can i blank this keychain [13:05] the keychain stores passwords for other stuff [13:05] i dont need it [13:05] jfer, would you mind taking over, i have to go afk [13:05] sure [13:05] thanks [13:05] thanks :) [13:05] for ur great help [13:05] nish!! [13:05] no probs lalya :) [13:05] hope to see you again someday [13:05] hehe [13:05] ok [13:05] for maybe other helps [13:05] sorry for the heart attack [13:06] lol [13:06] about the hdd failure [13:06] lol [13:06] * nisshh is away [13:06] so jfer.. where should i go to empty the keychain?§ [13:06] goto system->preferences->passwords and encryption keys [13:07] oh yes [13:07] i see [13:07] password: default [13:07] and [13:07] password: login [13:07] under default you should see infromation about the wifi yes? [13:07] yes [13:08] network secret..etc [13:08] ok right click on default [13:08] yes [13:08] click change password [13:08] properties, delete, block, change pass [13:08] ohhh should be all clear [13:08] i input my pass [13:08] and then the 2 blanks [13:08] yep [13:09] it should give a warning [13:09] yes [13:09] now i reboot and see :) [13:09] but just accept it [13:10] all okay!!! [13:10] no more passwords [13:10] great! [13:10] and. on the other hand... [13:10] wifi has even more signal [13:10] lol [13:11] thanks a lot lot!!! [13:11] your welcome [13:11] see you i nest get some sleep [13:11] i hope to get used to ubuntu soon [13:11] have a nice sleep or nap [13:11] i am sure you will [13:11] whatever that is :) [13:11] ops.. yeah in australia should be late already [13:11] stick with it [13:11] its lunch time here still [13:11] it is 11:11pm [13:12] goodnite and take care! [13:12] enjoy the rest of your day [13:12] thanks :) [13:21] quail: nice linux letter [13:22] quail: published in times new roman, love it [13:52] sagaci: huh? [13:55] quail: the letter your forwarded about the article in the Advertiser [14:01] ah yeah, it was a good read [18:50] blahdeblah: well my sync will be finished today, if you wanted to drop over and sync off it you'd be welcome to. Easier to keep that up to date then.