[00:14] does anyone have the photos to uds-n handy? [00:18] jcastro: Weren't they meant to get tagged uds: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/uds [00:20] thanks [01:38] d'oh, I just realized Bruno Maag was at UDS-N and I didnt get to meet him :\ [01:44] as a graphic designer i must say that would of been awesome [02:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/436074 [02:31] Launchpad bug 436074 in ubuntu-community "CodeOfConduct Signature/Acknowledgement Lacks Integration (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] [02:31] thoughts on this? [03:00] i think during install might not be the best place to present the CoC [03:03] It has been my experience that most new people to the communtiy manage to sign the CoC [03:04] with no issues. [03:06] Most people are presented with signing the CoC when joining a team. Which seems like an appropriate place. [04:20] morning all [04:29] Hey nigelb [04:39] hola nhandler [05:37] hello nigelb [05:39] heya duanedesign [06:15] * duanedesign just finished another screencast [06:15] nigelb: have you worked with Drupal6 at all? [06:16] * nigelb notes popey just renewed interest in screencasting [06:16] duanedesign: I did work with it and sometimes get called in to consult on that project [06:18] nigelb: yeah I have made it a point to give more love to the screencast team. Something I unfortunately got to bust to do last cycle [06:18] s/bust/busy [06:19] heh :) [06:19] nigelb: i think i got a case of trying to do what I wanted to help with, instead of doing what I had time to help with [06:20] nigelb: i need to update screencasts.ubuntu.com to Drupal6. So i am asking around to figure out who I can ask questions too ;) [06:21] duanedesign: ah, feel free to give a shout :) [06:42] * duanedesign is looking for the etherpad document popey was using as a toDo list for ucast === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T [07:41] morning kim0, ara :) [07:41] nigelb: o/ morning [07:42] morning nigelb, kim0, all [07:42] ara: morning [07:42] Howdy everyone [07:44] hello kim0 [07:44] hello ara [07:44] duanedesign: hey :) [07:44] kim0: I have been wanting to tell you how much I liked your cloud blog post [07:45] duanedesign: hehe :) the one with the lots of pictures ? [07:45] or the 101 one [07:47] kim0: hehe, sorry that was a bit vague. 'You know that one about the cloud' kim0 replies 'most my posts are about the cloud' :) [07:48] kim0: cloud 101 [07:48] duanedesign: hehe :) [07:48] duanedesign: ah yeah cool .. glad you found it interesting .. I'm planning another part to that [07:48] maybe two [07:48] duanedesign: thanks for mentioning that :) [07:54] kim0: i think a lot of people will find that useful. The term 'cloud' has been tossed around a lot creating some confusion. Also the ambiguous meaning the term used to have (everything outside the network). [08:01] dpm: morning :) [08:02] heya kim0, did you have a nice holiday? [08:02] dpm: yeah thanks :) [08:02] cool :) [08:02] good morning everyone! [08:06] morning dpm :) [08:08] good morning! [08:08] morning dholbach [08:08] hiya duanedesign [08:09] morning nigelb [08:09] good morning dholbach, thanks for fixing my blueprint last night! [08:10] dholbach: the diagrams you used at UDS. The ones showing all the stuff to learn packaging. What app did you use to make those? [08:10] hey duanedesign [08:10] hello dpm [08:10] dholbach: hey morning :) [08:12] dpm, no worries [08:12] duanedesign, freemind [08:12] hey kim0 [08:12] hola dholbach [08:12] kim0, had a good few days off? [08:12] hi nigelb [08:12] dholbach: aha, thank you kind sir [08:12] dholbach: yeah indeed [09:02] aloha [09:07] heya czajkowski [09:07] hey czajkowski [09:10] hello czajkowski [09:12] duanedesign: up a bit late aren'tn you [09:12] dpm: dholbach ello [09:16] czajkowski: heh, your right :) I took too long of a nap yesterday. Bad idea. Well, not at the time [09:19] heh [09:19] czajkowski: hmm, what about a screencast on using the LoCo Directory? Do you find any particular features people are not using or asking questions about? [09:20] * duanedesign is trying to come up with screencast ideas. [09:20] signing up seems to cause some issues for som unknown reason [09:20] * duanedesign nods [09:21] anyone have the link to etherpad doc popey was using for ucast ideas? [09:23] aha http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Screencasts [09:26] morning czajkowski, randa :) [09:27] hi nigelb, dholbach, czajkowski [09:27] hola randa! [09:27] dpm hi [09:28] * czajkowski strangles paultag, my inbox is full again [09:28] hola randa! [09:32] hrm, paultag has been promoted from throttling to strangling :p [10:00] duanedesign: you stealing my ideas? [10:03] popey, freedom hater [10:03] :) [10:03] * popey reboots his mac [10:03] * czajkowski has an iphone [10:04] no working sim just yet [10:04] welcome to the club [10:04] which iphone? [10:04] can I just say, what a stupid way to get a sim card out of a phone [10:04] not the new one [10:05] popey: i was looking for inspiration :) [10:05] duanedesign: :) [10:05] popey: i got another one recorded this morning [10:05] popey: after i eat breakfast i am gonna upload it [10:06] duanedesign: do you mean midnight snack [10:06] :D [10:07] brb [10:08] czajkowski: 'technically' breakfast is what you have at or around sunrise, so that counts as breakfast :p [10:09] czajkowski: what is the logic to decide if a team is a loco team or not? [10:10] member of ~locoteams ? [10:11] nigelb: well do you mean as an aproved/unapproved loco team or just being a group of Ubuntu fans :) [10:11] czajkowski: well, I'm trying to steal an action item from dholbach (i'm sure he'll be glad :p) to list out the loco teams members of bug control and ubuntu dev [10:12] (so, from that point of view) [10:12] nigelb, I'm on it already :) [10:12] dang [10:12] I can give you what I have already :) [10:12] \o/ [10:12] wish there was a public gobby [10:12] dholbach: can you pastebin it for me? :) [10:13] etherpad... [10:13] I have a few hours to kill today [10:13] czajkowski: no code highlight :/ [10:13] ah [10:20] nigelb, just a sec - want to see if at least the small bit I did works :) [10:20] dholbach: sure, take your time :) [10:23] * popey hugs etherpad [10:25] aye I think that was my only issue at UDS this time, was that gobby was utterly shite, when it's been a lot reliable before, and I don't think etherpad is suitable yet I know folks love it. [10:25] it was actually frustrating how many times Gobby went down during UDS and I know I'm missing notes from sessions :( [10:26] czajkowski: The upstream of gobby is willing to work with us to fix it. So I think its mostly a server bork than a gobby bork [10:27] nods [10:29] czajkowski: gobby as such is pure awesomeness. I'd like to demonstrate its power at work some time :D [10:29] * popey prefers etherpad over gobby every time [10:29] I'm with popey on this [10:29] there are times when I like gobby [10:29] especially for code [10:29] it's a lot more powerful, just not to have 300+ on it [10:29] unless they can make a stable web version of gobby [10:29] that would rock [10:29] definitely [10:29] so people could access via gobby client or a browser [10:30] oooh, that's nice [10:30] dear itchy nose please sod off, no love me [10:30] * nigelb goes to check if they have plans [10:30] did you folks hear about the option in gedit which would work like gobby? [10:30] I don't remember what it was called [10:30] also, etherpad has history which gobby doesn't AFAIAA [10:30] duanedesign (i think) told me a while back [10:30] so you can replay the document [10:30] abiword has it too [10:30] etherpad also eats memory... [10:31] it's java, of course it does :) [10:31] lol [10:31] * jussi rode in a cab with mr jones from uds :) [10:32] anyone has run a gobby server? [10:32] yeah, I have [10:32] its very lightweight compared to etherpad, but quite flaky [10:32] well of course you have [10:32] hah [10:32] :p [10:33] popey: Did it have problems in your server too? [10:33] I'm having a brain fart, what is the syntax to upgrade from one release to next again [10:33] gobby? yeah, it fell over sometimes [10:33] ouch [10:33] czajkowski: sudo do-release-upgrade [10:33] thanks [10:33] or just run update-manager [10:33] !upgrade [10:33] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [10:34] nigelb, it's still broken, but it's yours now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/529255 [10:34] dholbach: thank you \o/ [10:34] (I finally have an item :D) [10:36] hmmm [10:36] says no update but I'm sure I'm on lucid [10:36] let me reboot [10:36] nooo! [10:36] dont reboot silly [10:36] go to settings in update manager [10:36] by default LTS only offers upgrade to LTS [10:37] czajkowski: http://ucasts.tv/2010/11/08/ucast-0003-update-manager-intro/ you should watch that :) [10:37] show new distribution releases: NORMAL [10:37] in the updates tab, does it show "lucid-security" and "lucid-updates" etc/ [10:37] ? [10:38] hmm [10:38] brb [10:41] had ha;lf updated and hadn't rebooted [10:41] all pretty now [10:41] silly rabbit [10:41] these early morning don't bode well for my noggin [10:42] also nearly 7 month not working :) [10:42] dear brain please work [10:42] hehe [10:43] :) [10:55] popey, can you open ucasts with Chromuim ? [10:55] dunno, i dont use chromium [10:55] i use chrome [10:55] does it work for you? [10:56] no i am getting "Page(s) unresponsive" [10:56] what url? [10:56] all of them [10:57] ok, lets start with just one [10:57] give me a url that doesn't work [10:58] Chrome/9.0.577.0 is you? [10:59] this on doesn't work [10:59] http://ucasts.tv/2010/11/08/ucast-0003-update-manager-intro/ [11:01] popey, http://is.gd/gTItu [11:01] Chromuim 9.0.577.0 (65479) Ubuntu 10.10 [11:01] ok, one mo [11:03] daker: try now? [11:04] popey, now i have something but it's still waiting for something [11:04] ok, let me try one more thing [11:05] http://is.gd/gTIVX [11:06] try now? [11:07] same as the first screenshot [11:08] hmm [11:08] i just see the header & the logo [11:08] ok, have disabled caching, try now? [11:11] popey, same as the second screenshot [11:11] hmm [11:11] does chromium not just helpfully tell you what it's waiting on? :) [11:12] no chromium is less than helpful with error reporting [11:12] it refused to let me open an internal wiki page earlier on [11:13] popey, wait a second i'll try to debug [11:13] thanks daker [11:14] dholbach: czajkowski I sent you guys an email (cc) just FYI [11:14] randa: thanks [11:17] first thinng a javascript error [11:17] Unable to post message to http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net. Recipient has origin http://ucasts.tv. [11:17] how odd [11:34] * czajkowski hugs randa [11:36] hiya [11:40] Pendulum: ello [11:43] morning Pendulum [11:45] morning Pendulum :) [11:46] thanks czajkowski [11:47] randa: czajkowski was about to strangle paultag for mails, be warned :P [11:47] nigelb: randa is totally didfferent and allowed to send me mails [11:48] right right :p [11:50] nigelb ;) [12:54] popey, it works now after upgrading to Chromuim 9.0.578.0 (65618) [12:55] yay! [12:55] thanks for testing! [12:57] popey, np === jorge is now known as jcastro [14:26] randa: you ok over there [14:26] Millbank seems rather crazy [14:34] czajkowski: just saw something saying Millbank's being evacuated so she may not be by computer [14:35] yikes. [14:35] Everything okay? [14:35] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11726822 [14:35] "They have been burning placards nearby. Some broke into the lobby of the building, Millbank Tower." [14:37] czajkowski: yes crazy though we evacuated [14:38] popey: http://news.sky.com/skynews/ [14:38] im back now [14:42] Yeesh, thats a bit scary. [14:43] hi popey [14:43] http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/4363767/ [14:43] I got to use pitivi and it all worked! [14:43] :) [14:46] Hmm.. my computer didn't like that link very much: http://nullcortex.com/upload/images/screenshots/odd.png [14:48] pici: yikes [14:48] popey: if you have time today could you copy over the new screencast I uploaded. 002-HowToCreatePGP.ogv [14:48] Pici: try now, the conversion to h264 is done [14:49] jcastro: I just refreshed, looks better now. [14:49] I'll blame most of the issue on Windows though. (*sadface*) [14:50] that font in your browser makes me sad [14:51] duanedesign: done [14:52] gah [14:59] dholbach: good morning [14:59] heya jcastro [15:00] I was looking for UDS pics to show jill [15:00] and look what I found [15:00] http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072209328_XmkLE [15:00] us fixing your session! [15:00] haha, yes :) [15:06] jcastro: I like your costume in the party :) [15:07] heh [15:19] popey: thank you kind sir [15:19] np [15:20] duanedesign: I think you've been corrupted by doctormo :p [15:27] easily done [15:35] dholbach: omg, sit down [15:35] mvo accepted one of my branches! [15:36] jcastro, I noticed :) [15:37] he must not have enough work to do [15:41] lol [15:41] jcastro: did change the spelling of colour to color? ;) [15:41] heh [15:43] jcastro: j/k :) [15:43] * nigelb hugs jcastro [15:45] hey all [15:45] hi jono [15:45] hola jono [15:46] morning jono [15:48] hey dpm, nigelb, Pendulum [15:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1618164 [15:50] hah [16:00] jono, ready to mumble? :) [16:00] heh [16:02] dholbach, jcastro, dpm, kim0 logging in [16:10] jcastro, lol, there have been some tweets on twitter about that :) [16:11] (not that i use twitter) [16:20] Are our freinds at Millbank ok? [16:24] they appear to be fine [16:27] pesky students [16:31] Technoviking: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1618164 [16:32] alright my friends, I call it a day - see you tomorrow! [16:38] jcastro: heh [16:58] ok everyone, see you all tomorrow - have a nice rest of the day! [18:45] goedenavond [18:51] sense, that sounds like dirty German. Like a really drunk German from Austria [18:52] Wait... [18:52] Austrian * [18:52] paultag: I'm offended! [18:52] You just insulted my language! [18:52] How dare you! [18:52] sense, Naja, naturlich :) [18:52] sense, Deutsch ist die sprache am besten :) [18:52] Schade Deutschland, alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei! Schade Deutschland, alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei! [18:53] hehehe [18:53] <3 sense [18:53] Football choirs can be rude, but this one is actually quite polite. (compared to the rest) [18:53] oh yes :) [18:54] the US Baseball teams the Red Sox and the Yankees have fans that get very nasty to the other [18:54] That did not sound like English [18:55] I need to stop thinking German in my head sometimes [18:55] :) [18:55] I understand you. [18:55] paultag: Amsterdam AJAX fans call themselves the 'super Jews', so when Rotterdam Feynoord visists them some of their fans start making the sounds of leaking gas. It can get pretty bad. [18:55] oh nooo [18:56] I should not be laughing at all [18:56] that's really bad [18:56] It is the worst case, because they got the most sensitive nickname, [18:57] paultag: Ronald Koeman, player in the Dutch eleven once wiped his ass with the shirt of a German player (they swap shirts after a game) after he had takena d ump. [18:57] ouch [18:58] and Dutch people used to scream 'give us our bikes back!' to Germans during football matches, a reference to WWII. [18:58] and then they would throw their bikes at the Germans :P [18:59] hehe [18:59] hello sense paultag [18:59] hi duanedesign [18:59] hey duanedesign [19:02] i am really starting to like unity. Once they get the few issues and bugs fixed I think it is going to be really awesome [19:03] I'm not a fan for sure. I'm going to either KDE or Fluxbox [19:03] I can't wait to see how they will make it look on the desktop. [19:03] I can't stand it on the Netbooks [19:03] I just need the performance fixed and I'll be fine [19:03] paultag: Linux Mint will keep classic GNOME 2.x! [19:03] it's a dog on my desktop [19:03] jcastro: What kind of dog? [19:04] sense, mint has tons of issues :( [19:04] a woof-like dog [19:04] sense, some of their maintainers are just ouch. just ouch, man. [19:04] jcastro: yeah i saw a few systems where it was slow [19:04] sense, downstream they took my fluxbox package, took any mention of debian ( or us upstream ) out of it, and then bumped it to version 2.0 so it would "override" the Ubuntu default [19:05] aw [19:05] sense, we've only released version 1.1.1 [19:05] That seems quite ugly [19:05] paultag: not even a 2:? [19:05] sense, nope. [19:05] jcastro: seems to run great on my laptop. My issues is being able to get to Nautilus easier. [19:05] sense, just fluxbox-2.0 [19:07] argh [19:10] duanedesign: there will be a button to launch nautilus by default [19:10] I happened to be at the session where they decided which buttons to put on there [19:10] no buttons, launchers [19:11] jcastro: nice. The session i was in they discussed some ideas but did not reach an agreement [19:11] you can remove the launchers if you wish, or by accident [19:14] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-bringing-desktop-and-netbook-image-closer [19:14] * set of applications by default in the launcher: [19:14] - nautilus on both cases [19:14] - firefox [19:14] - ubuntu one [19:14] - tomboy [19:14] voila! [19:17] jono: Are the Conservatives still in Millbank tower? [19:17] Their office was stormed today by students. [19:18] or popey, or some other Brit [19:25] jcastro: going to be nice to have Ubuntu One back with some kind of indicator(launcher) on the desktop. Ever since they did away with the U1-applet users have been wanting it back. [19:25] I know, I hate that I get no notifications [19:25] I do "watch u1sdtool -s" in a terminal, hah [19:27] yeah. the results are a bit cryptic but if you check u1sdtool -s semi-regularly you start to pick up on what the different 'states' are [19:29] jcastro: i also use u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l and u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l quite a bit to check how mant items are in the queue [19:30] s/mant/many [19:46] duanedesign, jcastro: I learned the real trick in Brussels: set Ubuntu One's syncdaemon to debug mode and run tail -f on its log file. [19:52] sense: that is a good one [19:52] yeah [20:15] <-- late lunch === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [21:26] jono: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/e1d0/#tabs [21:27] the video is awesome [22:05] jcastro, are you around? This'll be the last time I bug you this week, I swear :) [22:05] yo [22:06] jcastro, mind if I slide it to a PM ? [22:06] go ahead [22:06] paultag: the week is only 1/2 over... [22:06] Pendulum, yeah yeah :) [22:07] Pendulum, usually I'm good about shutting up and getting my work done [22:14] hey popey [22:14] yo [22:14] 2 hours until boxee's video stream announcement thing [22:15] oh? [22:15] folks [22:15] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonobacon/5164728083/ [22:15] anyone want to add something similar to their blogs? [22:15] http://blog.boxee.tv/2010/11/10/watch-the-boxee-box-by-d-link-launch-party-live/ [22:15] jono: as soon as I saw it I wanted it [22:15] on it [22:15] jcastro, cool :-) [22:15] jono: where's there a button? [22:16] jcastro, http://openrespect.org/share/ [22:19] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1534225943/inside-the-banshee-awesome-factory [22:20] classy! [22:20] I was going to put "Be nice or I'll kill you" as the header but whatever [22:20] jono: speaking of, why don't we have a code of conduct button? [22:22] jcastro, good point [22:22] jcastro: loving you on that bug atm [22:22] czajkowski: heh [22:23]