[07:53] <Mjolinor> can anyone tell me what hte restricted drivers manager is called so that I can install it?
[08:05] <Mjolinor> jockey :)
[10:07] <ev> I wonder if there's any value in doing some caching in the ubiquity build, specifically the keyboard maps generation.
[11:03] <Mjolinor> I have / as /dev/sda1, is this set root=(hd0,1)
[11:03] <Mjolinor> I cant make any sense at all out of the fiels in /etc/grub.d
[11:04] <Mjolinor> according to http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId706228 that page
[11:05] <cjwatson> probably, but with multiple disks there's no guarantee that grub's disk ordering (hd0, hd1) corresponds to Linux's (sda, sdb), which is why there are also 'search' commands with UUIDs in there
[11:05] <Mjolinor> I should hav ea line saying "set root=(hdX,Y) but there are nonoe in that file
[11:05] <cjwatson> if you have an existing grub.cfg stanza referring to sda1, then copy bits out of that ...
[11:05] <cjwatson> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html <- official manual including a configuration reference
[11:05] <Mjolinor> I have messed with this new grub before and always gone back to the old one , it was so easy
[11:06] <Mjolinor> its really complicated now
[11:06] <cjwatson> that's not very motivating for me to help
[11:06] <Mjolinor> its getting much windows like with bloat and all is ubuntu
[11:06] <cjwatson> that's even less motivating
[11:06] <Mjolinor> :)
[11:06] <Mjolinor> sorry
[11:06] <Mjolinor> crabby
[11:07] <Mjolinor> main problem is that I got the instal;l on last night adn started adding things like firefox etc but synaptic crashed installing firefox
[11:07] <Mjolinor> and since then nothign will run in  a stable mamnner at all, it jsut crashes randomly so if I start a command window it will jsut disappear at random and I have to open another
[11:07] <Mjolinor> really frustrating
[11:08] <Mjolinor> so I thought I will start again, now that my new disk boots I will stick mini.iso on that and point grub at it
[11:08] <cjwatson> I don't know what that would be - we only really deal with initial installation here, although as it happens I also do bootloader work so I ought to be able to help with that
[11:09] <Mjolinor> I am jsut trying to get
[11:09] <Mjolinor> #!/bin/sh -e
[11:09] <Mjolinor> echo "newgrub"
[11:09] <Mjolinor> cat << EOF
[11:09] <Mjolinor> menuentry "Tinstaller" {
[11:09] <Mjolinor> set root=(hd0,1)
[11:09] <Mjolinor> linux /mini/linux
[11:09] <Mjolinor> initrd /mini/initrd.gz
[11:09] <cjwatson> do you only have one disk in the machine right now, or do you still have the IDE disk there?
[11:09] <Mjolinor> }
[11:09] <Mjolinor> EOF
[11:09] <Mjolinor> that into the menus, as far as I have read that is correct but when I run grub update I dont get hte newgrub message
[11:09] <Mjolinor> I disconnected the ide disk
[11:09] <cjwatson> you probably forgot to make that script executable.  chmod +x
[11:09] <Mjolinor> no
[11:10] <Mjolinor> it is executable
[11:10] <cjwatson> where are you expecting that message to appear?
[11:10] <Mjolinor> either my set root is wrong or there is soemthign else wrong with that file but I cant see anything
[11:10] <cjwatson> the way you've written it, it will go into the configuration file
[11:10] <Mjolinor> when I run update-grub
[11:10] <cjwatson> try  echo "newgrub" >&2
[11:10] <cjwatson> also, what did you call the file in /etc/grub.d/ ?
[11:10] <Mjolinor> 15_installer
[11:10] <cjwatson> ok
[11:11] <cjwatson> also you know that you'll only get one shot at running the installer if you do it this way?  since once you partition it'll overwrite the installer
[11:11] <Mjolinor> ?
[11:12] <Mjolinor> if I reboot you mean
[11:12] <cjwatson> you have the installer on a disk that you're planning to repartition and overwrite, as I understand it ...
[11:12] <cjwatson> I meant what I said :-)
[11:12] <Mjolinor> I wont reboot until I see that message when I run update_grub
[11:12] <Mjolinor> no
[11:12] <Mjolinor> I am not planning to repartition, I am planning to overwrite on the same partition because I htink that some packages ahve not installed coorectly in the early days
[11:13] <cjwatson> well, same thing, the installation will reformat that partition which will remove /mini/linux and /mini/initrd.gz
[11:13] <cjwatson> so you only get one shot
[11:13] <Mjolinor> and that is why things are crashing out in X
[11:13] <Mjolinor> no particular thing, jsut anythign I run is not stable
[11:13] <Mjolinor> it will not refpormat if I tell it not to
[11:13] <cjwatson> true, if you take special care in the partitioner then you can manage it
[11:14] <Mjolinor> it woudlnt format anyway last time, I had to preapre the aprtition before I ran the instlaler
[11:14] <cjwatson> as long as you're aware that you need to
[11:14] <cjwatson> anyway: try the change I suggested to your grub.d script
[11:14] <Mjolinor> and I ended up not using the amd64 as it woudlnt work, it get bombing out so I went back tot he normal 32 bit one, that installed first time
[11:15] <Mjolinor> thats an ikmprovement, at least it is reading the file for sure
[11:15] <Mjolinor> syntax error :)
[11:16] <cjwatson> ?
[11:16] <Mjolinor> #!/bin/sh -e
[11:16] <Mjolinor> echo "newgrub" > &2
[11:16] <Mjolinor> cat << EOF
[11:16] <Mjolinor> menuentry "installer" {
[11:16] <Mjolinor> set root=(hd0,1)
[11:16] <Mjolinor> linux /mini/linux
[11:16] <Mjolinor> initrd /mini/initrd.gz
[11:16] <Mjolinor> }
[11:16] <Mjolinor> EOF
[11:16] <cjwatson> >&2
[11:16] <cjwatson> not > &2
[11:16] <cjwatson> important to copy exactly
[11:17] <Mjolinor> :)
[11:17] <Mjolinor> I copied it from the web page, not your text
[11:17] <Mjolinor> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId706228
[11:17] <Mjolinor> that web page
[11:17] <Mjolinor> anyway, it worked so reboot time
[11:17] <cjwatson> BTW, you could just have added to the end of /etc/grub.d/40_custom and saved the effort of writing a script
[11:17] <Mjolinor> back in a bit, hopefully, thanks
[11:18] <cjwatson> I'm afraid I can't control what third-party web pages advise - sometimes their advice isn't ideal
[11:18] <Mjolinor> I thought that but I dont like to mess with the ones that are on if I dont know what I am doing
[11:18] <Mjolinor> which I usually dont
[11:18] <cjwatson> 40_custom is explicitly there for you to edit
[11:18] <Mjolinor> fingers crooseed :)
[11:18] <Mjolinor> bye
[11:18] <cjwatson> precisely because it's easier than writing a new script
[11:23] <Mjolinor> that worked :)
[11:23] <Mjolinor> now I will try to fix the crashing without re installing :)
[13:14] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r855 lucid-proposed/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):
[13:14] <CIA-4> grub-installer: Install GRUB to the SATA RAID or multipath device when /boot is on such
[13:14] <CIA-4> grub-installer: a device, rather than installing to the first hard disk (LP: #603854).
[13:32] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r856 lucid-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49ubuntu11.1