| Muscovy | This may seem like a strange question, but how can I detect which languages the system uses? | 00:24 |
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| kklimonda | Muscovy: checking locale settings? | 00:27 |
| Muscovy | How would I do that? | 00:28 |
| Bachstelze | Muscovy: define "the system" ;) | 00:30 |
| Bachstelze | each user can use a different locale using the LANG ev variable | 00:30 |
| Muscovy | I would say all user languages. | 00:31 |
| Muscovy | I'm trying to figure out how to make an installer download langpacks for all languages users use. | 00:32 |
| kklimonda | Muscovy: I don't think there is a way to detect a system-wide language (or language set by all users). All you can check is the language for the current user (or rather your application) | 00:33 |
| * Bachstelze nods | 00:33 | |
| Muscovy | Hmm. | 00:33 |
| kklimonda | well, you could probably detect system-wide settings somehow but it won't help you in this case. | 00:34 |
| kklimonda | Can users choose any language they like, even if language packs for it are missing? | 00:34 |
| * kklimonda doesn't think so | 00:34 | |
| Muscovy | We don't have a UI for that yet, but yes. | 00:34 |
| kklimonda | Muscovy: but it won't work without language packs so what's the point? | 00:35 |
| Muscovy | It's for the screenshots in the #ubuntu-tour. | 00:35 |
| Muscovy | Each pack will be about 15 MB. | 00:35 |
| Muscovy | No way we can stick them all together. | 00:36 |
| kklimonda | Muscovy: what you could do is create an application that, at the first login, launches and asks user to choose his language and then, using policy-kit and aptdaemon(?) installs all files. | 00:36 |
| Muscovy | We were thinking of automating the "install user's language". The tour itself knows how to find which language is currently in use. | 00:37 |
| kklimonda | how does it know that? | 00:38 |
| Muscovy | I'm not sure. I didn't code very much at all since most of it's GTK, which I don't know. | 00:38 |
| Muscovy | It's magic. | 00:38 |
| kklimonda | Muscovy: well, if it knows the language for current user it can install language packs. | 00:39 |
| Muscovy | kklimoda: the hope was it could get them all at once though. | 00:40 |
| Muscovy | The hope was looping it into the install to avoid the need to have admins do other languages or have a pack from every user. | 00:40 |
| Muscovy | But like I said, the average computer will use one language. | 00:41 |
| ScottK | All languages make updates take a long time when they issue language pack updates. | 02:26 |
| micahg | ScottK: BTW, I talked to spotter about the SRU for hebcal and I'll be taking care of it | 03:02 |
| ScottK | micahg: Cool. Thanks. | 03:03 |
| jmarsden | I think the packaging of qtwebkit changed, or is being changed? In particular, the header file QWebSettings used to be part of libqt4-dev, but in Maverick and Natty it is not there, it is in libqtwebit-dev instead. But libqtwebkit-dev does not exist in Lucid. I'd like a source package that can build in Lucid as well as Maverick and Natty... is there a clean solution to this? | 05:46 |
| micahg | jmarsden: libqtwebkit-dev | libqt4-dev | 06:02 |
| ebroder | micahg: that doesn't work | 06:02 |
| micahg | ebroder: why not? | 06:02 |
| ebroder | buildds will only ever use the first package in an |'d dependency | 06:02 |
| ebroder | it's to avoid inconsistencies in how a build runs | 06:03 |
| micahg | ebroder: I thought it was only broke if the dependency was versioned | 06:03 |
| jmarsden | I can try it and find out :) | 06:04 |
| ebroder | always a good plan! i could be wrong. i'm only positive about how sbuild handles this - other builders might act differently | 06:04 |
| micahg | ebroder: bug 594916 | 06:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 594916 in Launchpad Auto Build System "buildd doesn't correctly check versioned ORed build-dependencies" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594916 | 06:10 |
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| jmarsden | Hmm, libqt4-dev was already listed as a Build-Dep, so apparently it decided to use that, and so did not pull in libqtwebkit-dev . So maybe I need to do Build-Depends: ... libqt4-dev, libqtwebkit-dev | <random-unnecessary-package that exists in both Lucid and Maverick> ?? | 06:28 |
| micahg | jmarsden: no, replace libqt4-dev with the line I gave you | 06:29 |
| jmarsden | micahg: But then on Maverick and Natty libqt4-dev won't be pulled in, will it? | 06:29 |
| micahg | jmarsden: it needs both? | 06:30 |
| jmarsden | I think so. It is a QT4 app, I really dobt QWebSettings is the only qt4 header it uses :) | 06:30 |
| micahg | jmarsden: don't worry, libqtwebkit-dev will pull it in | 06:31 |
| jmarsden | Ah, OK. That makes sense. I'll try it. | 06:31 |
| micahg | hi fabrice_sp | 06:44 |
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| fabrice_sp | Hi micahg. Congrats by the way! :-) | 07:13 |
| micahg | fabrice_sp: thanks | 07:13 |
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| dholbach | good morning! | 08:08 |
| geser | good morning | 08:24 |
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| cjwatson | ebroder: that's true in Debian, but the version of sbuild on the Ubuntu buildds intentionally relaxes that restriction in order that we can sync a package in main that does "Build-Depends: package-in-universe | virtual-provided-by-package-in-main" without modifications | 10:26 |
| === bilalakhtar changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Archive: Open | maverick-proposed is now unfrozen, time to work on SRUs! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | Congratulations to new MOTU: micahg. | ||
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| philsf | hi, I'm going to make a package of a (perl) program I wrote, and will use dh-make-perl. I work in a local bzr branch, and sync the whole dir to all machines I use. I'm using dh-make-perl. What's the best practice for the workflow? Do I copy the revision I want to package to a new dir, and make the binary pkg there, or run dh-make-perl in the trunk dir, then revert the changes after packaging? | 13:21 |
| cjwatson | I'd make a branch for the packaging | 13:21 |
| philsf | is dh-make-perl supposed to be used for all releases, or just the initial packaging? | 13:30 |
| philsf | it has a 'refresh' mode, but it didn't append to debian/changelog, instead it created a new one | 13:32 |
| cjwatson | philsf: initial | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | well, it *claims* to be usable on an ongoing basis actually, but I must say I wouldn't | 13:47 |
| philsf | cjwatson, thanks, that clarifies a lot | 13:47 |
| bilalakhtar | angelabad: good work on that sync, I am sponsoring your merge now | 14:47 |
| bilalakhtar | test-building in my PPA | 14:48 |
| angelabad | bilalakhtar, ok! Thanks! | 14:50 |
| bilalakhtar | omg! vtk has loads of build-deps | 14:50 |
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| stefanlsd | I have a dkms build failing with nothing useful in make.log, and when i run it manually from the directory, its fine. Any ideas? | 15:21 |
| ebroder | stefanlsd: is the command to build the module multiple things &&'d together, by any chance? | 15:22 |
| stefanlsd | ebroder: mm. not that i can see. Its a bunch of commands with ; seperating them | 15:27 |
| ebroder | stefanlsd: ok, close enough. are there parentheses around the group of commands? | 15:27 |
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| ebroder | (i think you're running into bug #593509 i.e. debian bug 577972) | 15:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 593509 in dkms (Debian) "openafs-modules-dkms leaves ~empty make.log on failing builds" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/593509 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 577972 in dkms "dkms: unclear diagnostics on build failure" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/577972 | 15:29 |
| stefanlsd | ebroder: no parentheses. But yeah, def no error in log either. Strange that a manual build is fine. Seems like its just not detecting the exit status correctly | 15:32 |
| ebroder | no, dkms isn't handling multiple commands correctly. try adding parentheses | 15:32 |
| ebroder | you're only seeing the log of the last command in the set | 15:32 |
| stefanlsd | ebroder: ok. parentheses around all the commands right? | 15:34 |
| ebroder | right | 15:34 |
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| bilalakhtar | angelabad: Sponsored, the test build took over an hour! | 15:44 |
| angelabad | bilalakhtar, ops! sorry I had a test build in my ppa | 15:46 |
| angelabad | https://edge.launchpad.net/~angelabad/+archive/maverick/+build/2040322 | 15:46 |
| angelabad | thanks for sponsor me! | 15:46 |
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| stefanlsd | ebroder: make.log is much beter now - http://paste.ubuntu.com/529405/ but it doesnt fail, although dkms reports Error! Build of dahdi_dummy.ko failed for: 2.6.35-22-generic (x86_64) | 15:48 |
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| micahg | ScottK: would I be able to backport thunderbird translations? (each translation is a new binary which makes SRUing difficult, I plan to SRU them as well when we update Thunderbird, but not the newer languages, just updates) | 16:15 |
| ScottK | micahg: You should be able to SRU the new binaries for translation improvements. We can backport if needed, but I think an SRU would be better if ubuntu-sru would take them. | 16:16 |
| micahg | ScottK: oh, ok, that's even better, I just remembered something about new binaries causing issues | 16:17 |
| ScottK | micahg: I'm not sure. I'd ask pitti about it. | 16:18 |
| Kage[Work] | Got a quick packaging question.. So I work for my uni, and we use GroupWise here. My department maintains our own minid server. So, we have an .rpm of the GroupWise client, and using alien I converted it to a .deb. I tried to extract everything and make a custom package out of it, but shlibs keep breaking (whereas leaving it alone as the .deb alien produces works fine). | 16:38 |
| Kage[Work] | So, my question is this: How can I place the .deb on our minid server without a .changes or .tar.gz ? | 16:38 |
| Kage[Work] | Wrong channel, perhaps? | 16:40 |
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| highvoltage | I uploaded Acire to REVU: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/acire | 18:05 |
| highvoltage | Lintian complains about my email address not being the same as in the maintainer field: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/acire-1011101739/lintian | 18:06 |
| highvoltage | Is there something I should do about that, or is that normal in this case? | 18:06 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: hmm that warning makes no sense on ubuntu, but you should address the other two issues | 18:08 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: what should I do about that version number btw? | 18:10 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: do you want it to be a native package? I think it shouldn't be. | 18:11 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: which basically means you forgot to have a .orig.tar.gz before debuilding | 18:11 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: it comes from https://launchpad.net/~acire-team/+archive/acire-releases, so it didn't come from an upstream tarball, I haven't quite done it like this before so I'm a bit unsure | 18:12 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: use source format 3.0 (quilt) and it'll give you an error instead of just making a native package | 18:12 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: ok | 18:12 |
| tumbleweed | ok yes they don't have any release tarballs yet | 18:13 |
| tumbleweed | you can make one, or you can have a native package for now | 18:13 |
| * highvoltage thinks native package for now is better | 18:13 | |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: should I leave it then in the current source format or use 3.0 (native)? | 18:14 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: up to you, depends how much you want to get into maintaining it :) | 18:15 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: where does that leave me with the version number though? | 18:16 |
| tumbleweed | x-y is a numbering scheme used for non-native packages, y is the debian revision | 18:16 |
| stefanlsd | any dkms experts. dkms fails to build, but nothing in the log as to why - http://paste.ubuntu.com/529405/ | 18:17 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: so I should go with 0.4.1? | 18:17 |
| * highvoltage notes that this is starting to look like an alternate ubuntu-za :) | 18:17 | |
| stefanlsd | :) | 18:18 |
| tumbleweed | yeah sounds sane enough. (we'll get there :P I'm working on drubin) | 18:19 |
| tumbleweed | if it were a package I was maintaining, I'd probably go with 0.4.1~bzr83-0ubuntu1 and package it non-natively | 18:20 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: that actually sounds incredibly sane | 18:21 |
| ajmitch | morning | 18:21 |
| highvoltage | morning ajmitch | 18:21 |
| * ajmitch is here to make it less of an #ubuntu-za :P | 18:22 | |
| highvoltage | ajmitch: that's ok, with your accent someone could mistake you for being from .za :p | 18:22 |
| ajmitch | haha | 18:23 |
| xteejx | How do I fix a patch if it says hunk failed? | 22:02 |
| xteejx | Can I just edit the patch and change the line numbers? | 22:02 |
| xteejx | Don't worry it worked | 22:03 |
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| DktrKranz | bdrung: thanks | 22:50 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: for what? | 22:51 |
| DktrKranz | reply to my comment about cacheviewer | 22:52 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: bug number? | 22:52 |
| DktrKranz | no bug #, mail coming from ftpmaster | 22:53 |
| bdrung | aha, got it | 22:54 |
| ebroder | bdrung: speaking of comments, sorry about that dictionaries-common thing. that was embarrassingly sloppy | 22:54 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: as a maintainer of mozilla-devscripts, i have to promote it's tools. :) | 22:54 |
| bdrung | ebroder: np - thanks to sponsor-patch it didn't took much time to detect it | 22:55 |
| DktrKranz | heh, I wasn't aware of it. I kept another package waiting to clarify that, I think my question is solved now :) | 22:55 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: if there is a task that is too complicated - there is a tool from mozilla-devscript for it ;) | 22:56 |
| ajmitch | DktrKranz: many thanks to the ftp team for working through NEW again :) | 22:56 |
| DktrKranz | ajmitch: thanks, very appreciated :) (btw, going down 100 packages \o/) | 22:57 |
| * ajmitch will upload a few more then ) | 22:58 | |
| * DktrKranz turns off cronjobs | 22:59 | |
| ajmitch | heh | 22:59 |
| * ajmitch wanders off for lunch | 22:59 | |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: there is one multimedia package waiting in the NEW queue... | 23:02 |
| DktrKranz | bdrung: which one? | 23:04 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: x264 :) | 23:04 |
| DktrKranz | being worked on it | 23:05 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: i didn't expect that answer | 23:07 |
| sebner | bdrung: DktrKranz is the wizard of Debian NEW :D | 23:09 |
| Laney | just run `yes | process-new' | 23:10 |
| Laney | er, other way around | 23:10 |
| DktrKranz | Laney: simpler, dak process-new --automatic | 23:11 |
| DktrKranz | (real command!) | 23:11 |
| Laney | \o/ | 23:12 |
| Laney | there must be overriding to do too though | 23:12 |
| DktrKranz | just buy me something like http://tinyurl.com/a9kgqj to be placed upon "A" | 23:14 |
| Laney | | yes A | 23:18 |
| Laney | $0, sold | 23:18 |
| * sebner pets Laney | 23:18 | |
| * Laney glomps sebner | 23:19 | |
| * sebner thinks fedora14 (in virtualbox) is too br0ken. updating to rawhide. Does that make sense? xD | 23:20 | |
| bdrung | sebner: yes. i enable experimental if debian unstable is unstable :P | 23:23 |
| sebner | \o/ | 23:23 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: i looked at cacheviewer - it doesn't use xpi-{un,}pack, but it should (to get the .jar file extracted in the source tarball) | 23:40 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: do you use suspicious-source? | 23:41 |
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| DktrKranz | bdrung: no, we have another tool, but it's mostly license-based | 23:42 |
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