[11:41] <gnomefreak> !aptlock
[11:41] <ubot2> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:43] <gnomefreak> it seems xulrunner-1.9.2 and 2.0 are still broken badly
[11:43] <gnomefreak> they hang on configure
[11:48]  * gnomefreak trying to remove -P and reinstall them
[11:54] <gnomefreak> can someone please fix xulrunner* daily for Natty, it was broken on Maverick and its still borken on Natty.
[11:54] <chrisccoulson> it should be working now
[11:55] <gnomefreak> nope
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0 ...
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Processing triggers for python-support ...
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Setting up xulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1) ...
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i cant use ^C either
[11:55] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm, i pushed the workaround several days ago
[11:57] <gnomefreak> now the packages that were removed when i removed xul* i cant install
[11:59] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/529296/
[12:11] <gnomefreak> im guessing i should give it a few more days than finish upgrade
[12:12] <chrisccoulson> i've got no idea what's happening with that then, i've got too much to do to look at it atm
[12:13] <gnomefreak> i figured as much thats why i said a few days
[13:34] <chrisccoulson> b'ah, i wish venkman worked in firefox 4
[13:34] <chrisccoulson> i need it to debug ubufox :/
[14:27] <chrisccoulson> ok, asac, everything in ubufox seems to be functioning properly in FF4 now :)
[15:09] <asac> chrisccoulson: all submitted? in multiple topic branches? or just one?
[15:09] <asac> either works i guess ;)
[15:09] <chrisccoulson> asac - just one branch, but i'm just about to push another change which means we don't have to update the pfs URL for each release
[15:09] <chrisccoulson> once i've tested it works still
[15:10] <asac> cool
[15:10] <asac> put that in a separate branch though (mark it as depending on the other if needed)
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> asac - oh, i just pushed it already to the same branch
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> (after testing it just now)
[15:12] <asac> np
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> that's all ready to go now anyway
[16:23] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the latest firebug alpha should work in FF4, also, there should be a built in javascript debugger
[16:24] <chrisccoulson> micahg - firebug is only really any good for debugging web content rather than chrome
[16:24] <chrisccoulson> and the built in debugger is just really an interface that venkman uses
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> and venkman is broken :(
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> it's been broken for ages now, which sucks
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> but i got ubufox working without it now, so it doesn't matter ;)
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> it just would have been easier with a debugger
[16:25] <micahg> ok
[16:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I see the translations tasks marked off on the blueprint, what was the decision
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> micahg - as you pointed out, translations go in a separate tab in the new addon manager. i was wrong  at UDS - my languages pane wasn't there because i have no language packs installed ;)
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> but
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> i want to ship the language packs packed, which i've just confirmed to work
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> so we'll just drop the xpi in the extensions folder, rather than having it unpacked
[16:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, cool, but installed with the Ubuntu language packs or a separate sourc?
[16:28] <micahg> *source
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> it will be the ones exported from launchpad still
[16:28] <micahg> ok\
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> i just need to figure out how to make po2xpi create them properly
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> i'm trying to contact danilo who sat in the session at UDS
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> to see if he wants to do that :)
[17:33] <chrisccoulson> micahg - any progress with TB3.1 for lucid?
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i've pushed a PGO build of firefox to my PPA again, if you're feeling brave ;)
[17:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I was going to work on it today on the bus
[17:46] <micahg> should be able to finish the code, then it'll just need testing
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> cool, thanks
[19:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, I rewrote the migration part of the wrapper script and modified the migrator to reflect the new choices, we should have a much lower risk of issue with this version since it's simpler
[19:54]  * micahg will push later tonight after some tests
[20:24] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, thanks
[20:24] <chrisccoulson> i've got abrowser-on-XR going here now :)
[20:25] <chrisccoulson> well, i haven't actually added it to the packaging yet, but i've done both builds manually from the same tree
[20:36] <fta> abrowser on xr?
[20:37] <fta> abrowser used to be firefox with a different branding
[21:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: cool
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> hopefully will have it pushed later on
[21:11] <wsgolfer> Hi ubuntu-mozilla team. I had a question about how you decide which NSS tools to include in the libnss3-tools package. Is this the right forum for such a question? Thanks.
[21:13] <micahg> fta: we used to build FF on XR, but stopped to make the builds more like upstreams with the same lib versions, but there's no reason to do that for abrowser
[21:14] <fta> micahg, so does this mean that you're now building the browser in the xul package?
[21:15] <micahg> fta: for abrowser, that will be the goal
[21:15] <micahg> fta: Debian is doing the same thing now
[21:15] <fta> i don't see the benefit of that change, but well, not my call anymore ;)
[21:16] <micahg> fta: the benifit is that abrowser users don't need 2 copies of xulrunner
[21:21] <asac> well.. that also has tradeoffs
[21:21] <asac> ffox with xul was always slower
[21:22] <asac> and will always be most likely ... its just not supported upstream
[21:22] <asac> also support is now down to universe
[21:22] <asac> (i hope)
[21:22] <asac> but abrowser was really ment as a service for downstream that want to leech on us and get LTS
[21:23] <asac> we should at leas thave same performance and PGO etc. for abrowser as firefox iuam
[21:24] <asac> also the idea was to get 100% extension and plugin compatibility and so on ;) ... becomes hard to ensure that when its not the same binaries anymore
[21:24]  * asac stops now
[21:42] <bdrung> chrisccoulson, asac: please have a look at bug #673528 - where should it be redirected?
[21:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 673528 in notify-extension (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "xul-ext-notify should be installed by default with Firefox (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673528
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, why should it be installed by default?
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> notify-osd doesn't support actions, that would be a serious regression for the download notifications
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> so, no chance ;)
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> IIRC firefox already has libnotify support, although it falls back to it's own notifications if the notification system doesn't support actions
[21:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, which is where why people still complain, support was added to FF on the 1.9.2 branch
[21:48] <chrisccoulson> i don't think we should override that feature though by installing an extension by default. it's already bad enough that transmission uses notify-osd when a download finishes
[21:49] <chrisccoulson> we need a proper progress indicator for this type of thing ;)
[21:49] <chrisccoulson> (which somebody is already working on)
[22:05] <asac> chrisccoulson: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/pfs.local.tar.gz
[22:05] <asac> thats the pfs web setup for apache2 tarred up in my home
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> asac - oh, thanks :)
[22:06] <asac> chrisccoulson: you need enable python and enable public_html in your global apache mods afaik
[22:06] <asac> if you cant figure i can look that up
[22:06] <asac> chrisccoulson: in plugin-inder.py there is the path for the pfsdb which is /home/asac/pfsdb.. here
[22:07] <chrisccoulson> thanks. i tried to figure it out yesterday, but ended up just forcing the lucid version in the URL for testing ;)
[22:13] <bdrung> can you write this comment on the bug report?
[22:14] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, in a bit, i'm pretty busy right now