[02:17] <castlec> anyone have advice on disabling nouveau? i can't get the nvidia driver to install nor have i been able to remove nouveau.  it is blacklisted but keeps loading
[05:59] <miststlkr> hey all, is there a separate chan for questions related to developing for Myth?  specifically I want to make a utility that makes use of myth's telent interface and had a few questions.
[16:12] <jh15> Greetings. I set up a new mythbuntu box front/backend unit. HDhomerun works and myth scanned it ok. It starts on a good channel for a second, then crashes to user login.
[16:12] <rhpot1991> jh15: what video card do you have?
[16:13] <jh15> nvidia 8600
[16:14] <jh15> geforce
[16:14] <rhpot1991> change your playback profile
[16:14] <rhpot1991> you prob want VDPAU normal
[16:16] <jh15> what menu is that in?
[16:16] <rhpot1991> mythtvfrontend > setup > tv >playback I think
[16:16] <jh15> k,i'll check...
[16:18] <jh15> hey that works! thanks
[16:19] <jh15> rhpot1991, thanks
[16:19] <rhpot1991> jh15: no problem
[19:45] <Azelphur> so word on the street is .24 is stable now :D
[19:45] <Azelphur> I assume this means I can upgrade without being on the butt-end of family beatings
[20:05] <tgm4883> Azelphur, I don't think anyone said that
[20:05] <tgm4883> .24 is released now
[20:05] <tgm4883> released != stable
[20:06] <Azelphur> so still not a good idea to update yet unless I enjoy family beatings?
[20:06] <Azelphur> I sort of get family beatings already since mythweb/mythvideo is broken on 0.23.1
[20:07] <rhpot1991> always upgrade on a weekend when you have no recordings going on
[20:07] <Azelphur> well yea I'd have to do that anyway
[20:29] <tgm4883> Azelphur, I didn't say it wasn't stable
[20:29] <tgm4883> but it's not 1.0
[20:29] <tgm4883> Azelphur, whats broken in mythweb/mythvideo 0.23.1?
[20:43] <stevieman> is there a lirc or an irexec log anywhere in 10.04? I can't get irexec to work at all and I would like to find out why
[20:43] <tgm4883> Azelphur, I stand corrected...  <iamlindoro> It wouldn't be a release if it wasn't stable
[20:44] <Azelphur> hehe yea :P
[20:44] <Azelphur> tgm4883: if you go into mythvideo and click on one of the video links you get 404
[20:45] <tgm4883> interesting
[20:46] <tgm4883> does it give you an incorrect link?
[20:46] <Azelphur> I believe it's a known bug
[20:46] <Azelphur> yea
[20:46]  * tgm4883 looks
[20:46] <Azelphur> tgm4883: it's a problem with spaces
[20:47] <tgm4883> ah
[20:47] <tgm4883> so if you did a movie without spaces it would work?
[20:47] <Azelphur> yea
[20:47] <Azelphur> eg /Movies/Stargate is fine but /TV/24/Season 1/ is broken :D
[20:48] <tgm4883> thats no deal
[20:48] <Azelphur> ?
[20:48] <tgm4883> is there a bug filed against mythbuntu?
[20:48] <Azelphur> it's filed in MythTV I think it's already fixed
[20:48] <tgm4883> "thats no deal" == "that sucks"
[20:48] <Azelphur> so I've been waiting on the update :)
[20:48] <Azelphur> ah
[20:49] <tgm4883> you know which revision it's fixed in?
[20:49] <tgm4883> cause we don't build for 0.23.1 anymore
[20:49] <tgm4883> stevieman, is irexec started?
[20:49] <Azelphur> nope
[20:50] <stevieman> tgm4883: yes it is, it starts of bootup
[20:51] <stevieman> starts on bootup
[20:58] <Azelphur> tgm4883: so yea I asked a while back if I should upgrade and I think it was you who said do I like family beatings :P
[20:59] <Azelphur> yea it was :P
[20:59] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/ijmq3hsW
[21:02] <tgm4883> heh
[21:02] <tgm4883> yea it was
[21:02] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:02] <Azelphur> so what's the prognosis now days?
[21:02] <tgm4883> I don't run it yet, but i'm upgrading this weekend
[21:02] <Azelphur> cool
[21:02] <tgm4883> it's released and upstream says it's stable
[21:02] <tgm4883> and superm1 runs it
[21:02] <Azelphur> I'll let you be the guinea pig then :D
[21:03] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:03] <rhpot1991> superm1: already guinea pig'd for us
[21:03] <rhpot1991> now I'm sad that I'm gone away this weekend and can't upgrade
[21:05] <Azelphur> is there a place that says the new features?
[21:05] <superm1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.24
[21:05] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Release Notes - 0.24 - MythTV
[21:05]  * Azelphur reads
[21:07] <Azelphur> loving the new features, all but bluray and broadcom crystal make me happy :D
[21:08] <rhpot1991> only older blurays will work I believe
[21:08] <Azelphur> I wonder if the metadata grabbing in mythgame will be fully automatic like the mythvideo
[21:08] <Azelphur> yea, I don't use bluray at all
[21:10] <Azelphur> I've always wanted some nicer myth themes so theme browser/mythui is awesome, I use mythgame and never managed to get metadata, I've been trying to automate video metadata grabbing process too, I have a deaf person living with me so subtitle in mkv will be awesome :D
[21:10] <Azelphur> I like this, hehe
[21:13] <stevieman> anyone have any thoughts as to why I cannot get irexec working?
[21:15] <nikosapi> Hi, I just did a fresh install of mythbuntu 10.10 (I think I was using 9.10 previously) and I can't seem to get my homebrew serial transmitter working again (irsend works fine but my cable box doesn't seem to be receiving anything). Can anyone here help?
[21:22] <stevieman> could the fact that lircd is being run by root and irexec is being run by a user cause a problem?
[22:47] <strex> question of the day; when will mythbuntu update to .24?
[22:49] <tgm4883> strex, already has?
[22:49] <tgm4883> !auto
[22:49] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about auto
[22:49] <tgm4883> !auto%
[22:49] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains. See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[22:50] <strex> I guess a more accurate question would be, any idea when ubuntu will see that .24 has been released, and update their repo's?
[22:51] <tgm4883> strex, ah. let me check
[22:51] <tgm4883> strex, looks like April 28th, 2011
[22:52] <tgm4883> that date may flucate a few days but usually is about right
[22:52] <yggdrasil> hi can somone give me  hand, got a fresh install of mythbuntu here and i put some files into the videos folder and switched ovr the videos settings to point to that folder but i still get no files found  when i go into videos ?
[22:53] <strex> tgm4883: umm, that seems off, why would ubuntu wait 5 months before updating to a new release?
[22:53] <tgm4883> yggdrasil, hit m, then scan for changes
[22:53] <yggdrasil> ahh
[22:53] <yggdrasil> thanks, that did it, havnt run myth for a few years ..
[22:53] <yggdrasil> i was thinking it was something likthat
[22:54] <tgm4883> strex, because the maintainers of the mythtv packages in Ubuntu don't provide backports through the Ubuntu repos. They do it via autobuilds
[22:54] <yggdrasil> ,, it didnt pick up the wmvs though :(
[22:54] <tgm4883> yggdrasil, you probably have to set a filetype for wmvs
[22:55] <tgm4883> strex, I can tell you without a doubt, that if you want to use 0.24 on 10.04 or 10.10, that you will need to use auto-builds or compile it yourself
[22:55] <tgm4883> strex, why don't you like auto-builds?
[22:55] <strex> tgm4883: so I'm some what new to ubuntu, but been using *nix for 15+ years. tell me more about auto-builds please?
[22:55] <yggdrasil> tgm4883: i di that,
[22:55] <yggdrasil> well so another question i installed gnome  here and the panel bars are staying on top of myth.
[22:56] <tgm4883> strex, does the writeup and FAQ on that website not tell you enough?
[22:56] <yggdrasil> ill have to play with that one for a while
[22:56] <yggdrasil> oh isee what happend with those wmvs, they went to the wrong folder
[22:56] <tgm4883> strex, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about it, but i'm not going to give you a presentation on it since it's all on that site
[22:57] <strex> tgm4883: understood.
[22:58] <strex> tgm4883: i've already read it, but I'm still a bit confused as to why one would have to use auto-builds, when a new Release of the software is out.
[22:58] <strex> tgm4883: like if FF updated to a new Release, it would already be in an update manager somewhere, not in some auto-build, am i wrong?
[22:59] <tgm4883> a few reasons
[23:00] <tgm4883> backports actually take a bit of paperwork to actually happen
[23:00] <tgm4883> mythtv upstream provides a fixes branch for the currently released version
[23:00] <yggdrasil> ahh yea myth is running sweet now :) gonan put this guy in my van for the kids
[23:00] <yggdrasil> its an hp pavilion zv6000
[23:01] <tgm4883> autobuilds allows us to build from the fixes branch daily
[23:01] <strex> yggdrasil: I don't think my 4U server would fit in a van, hehe
[23:01] <yggdrasil> hehe
[23:01] <tgm4883> if we tried to do that in the regular repos, it would be a nightmare
[23:01] <tgm4883> we don't have the manpower for that to happen
[23:01] <yggdrasil> i used to run myth with some tweaks for dvbs decryption back in the day
[23:01] <yggdrasil> it was pretty fricking awesome
[23:02] <tgm4883> FF comes in the default install and thus has resources put toward it to keep it up to date in the repos (it also has exceptions for it)
[23:03] <yggdrasil> its allegedly got a in ir receiver built in but i cant seem to figure out .. i think it needs the remote controll built for this machine.
[23:03] <strex> tgm4883: thanks for the info, in a nutshell I need to use auto-builds to get mythtv upto version .24 then.
[23:03] <mrand> strex: Firefox is an exception... it is one of the most widely used applications, and a potential security risk for running old version is relatively high.
[23:03] <tgm4883> yep
[23:03] <tgm4883> or wait for Natty
[23:04] <mrand> strex: yep, all the cool kids use auto-builds.
[23:04] <strex> mrand: bringing up security when talking about mythtv is kinda a catch 22.
[23:04] <mrand> security with regard to Firefox.
[23:04] <strex> mrand: I know..
[23:06] <strex> can someone running auto-builds tell me if the .24 release is available there, or is it just RC's?
[23:07] <mrand> If you wait a few hours, it'll be the 0.24 release.
[23:07] <mrand> And then it will continue tracking any bug fixes that go into 0.24
[23:07] <mrand> BTW, I'd recommend waiting a few hours to also pick up a package related fix.
[23:07] <strex> mrand: aaah I get ya.
[23:08] <strex> mrand: meaning, there will be dpkg's avail in a few hrs?
[23:08] <tgm4883> which reminds me, I need to set new_release to true and see if auto-builds has any breakage in the -repos package
[23:09] <mrand> strex: New .deb's, yes.  You can see from https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.24 that the last build was nearly 24 hours ago.  Once the timer resets, it should be good to go.
[23:09] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] 0.24 : âMythbuntu Developersâ team
[23:09] <tgm4883> usually builds around 5:00 PM PST
[23:14] <strex> mrand: so I might be confusing the two, would it be advisable to setup the auto-builds repo on my boxes, but wait for the lastest build (an hr away for me) before upgrading? Am I just confusing myself more?
[23:15] <yggdrasil> wait a second all i would need is a universal that can be programmed with these codes.
[23:15] <yggdrasil> or what are some good cheap usb remotes for myth?
[23:15] <strex> yggdrasil: IR is a fun adventure, hang on for the ride.. ehhe.
[23:16] <yggdrasil> ive had it working before
[23:16] <yggdrasil> :)
[23:16] <yggdrasil> actually i have my old huapage one that jsut acts like a keyboard
[23:16] <yggdrasil> maybe ill jsut use that.
[23:17] <strex> yggdrasil: have you setup, the drive, daemon and config yet?
[23:17] <yggdrasil> would be nice if i could get the receiver on the pavilion zv6000 to work and maybe use another pavilion ir to program up another emote.
[23:17] <yggdrasil> drive ?
[23:17] <strex> *driver
[23:17] <yggdrasil> ahh
[23:17] <yggdrasil> i havnt set up the lircd yet
[23:17] <yggdrasil> i cant really see where the device is
[23:17] <yggdrasil> its not usb and its not pci
[23:17] <yggdrasil> not sure where to start on that.
[23:18] <strex> check dmesg
[23:18] <yggdrasil> and since i dont have the remote controll for it im not sure how to check if its seeing anything.
[23:18] <yggdrasil> right but i dont have the remote for it either. i tried jsut shooting another remote randomly and checked dmesg but didnt see anythng
[23:19] <strex> dmesg should show the device, if the driver is installed.
[23:19] <yggdrasil> ahh let me check that out
[23:19] <yggdrasil> what should i grep for ?
[23:19] <strex> lsmod |grep ir
[23:20] <strex> anything ir related?
[23:20] <yggdrasil> negative
[23:20] <yggdrasil> woww ive never seen grep hilight the search term
[23:20] <strex> anything in dmesg, might be worth checking line by line.
[23:21] <strex> it's ubuntu for ya
[23:21] <yggdrasil> yea ill dmsg | more
[23:21] <mrand> strex: you have it exactly correct.  You can setup the auto-builds now or later... but if you set it up now, I'd advise waiting to update until todays build has completed just to head off one possible known package related problem.
[23:22] <strex> mrand: awesome, I get ya.
[23:23] <yggdrasil> this could take a while :) bbl
[23:23] <strex> mrand: tgm4883: I was hesitant about auto buids from the old tracking-source days in the BSD world..
[23:26] <mrand> strex: understood.  auto-builds could mean different things in different context's.  And in fact, the Mythbuntu autobuilds does give you the ability to track the trunk (unstable) source (aka what will eventually become 0.25).  As long as you stick with a mythtv version that is released or near released, the only downside SHOULD be that you may get pretty frequent updates as bug fixes tend to roll in rapidly during the first few weeks.  You can obvi
[23:29] <strex> mrand: well thanks for the help, I'll get to setting up the auto-builds on the machines.
[23:29] <mrand> strex: you're welcome
[23:30] <strex> now if only I could prevent HDD failure. hehe
[23:35] <yggdrasil> ok now i just gotta figure out how to stick the laptop to the roof of my van
[23:35] <strex> ductape?
[23:36] <mrand> Secure it to the back of the seats?
[23:43] <strex> Thanks for all the help folks, I'm out.