[02:42] <alantae> hello
[02:42] <alantae> need some help people ...
[02:47] <alantae> never mind
[06:04] <ubuXubu> good morning fishers of code...
[06:54] <ubuXubu> if u install xubutu and it wont go online then what
[07:01] <bazhang> ubuXubu, wired or wireless
[07:01] <ubuXubu> wired
[07:01] <bazhang> ubuXubu, does ifconfig show eth0
[07:01] <bazhang> if so, try sudo dhclient eth0
[07:02] <ubuXubu> thank u brb
[10:15] <rigved> hi
[10:15] <rigved> does xubuntu have something similar to the evolution, empathy and a notification area etc.
[10:25] <TheSheep> rigved: it has notification area, pidgin is the default communicator, mozilla thunderbird is the default mail reader
[10:27] <maitrey>  Hi, I can't setup the permissions on my fresh formated pendrive. I have gone like one hour through all the chown's and etc. but it doesn't work. It's still mounted only for the root user. someone can help? thanks
[10:28] <rigved> TheSheep: ok.
[10:29] <rigved> i have a laptop which can only run ubuntu in low graphics mode. so will i be able to run xubuntu on it in normal mode then?
[10:31] <maitrey> most probable you'll be running better than in any other distro (maybe except pclos) , but it depends try xubuntu 10.10 I like it a lot. and everything runs flawless.
[10:31] <TheSheep> rigved: probably not, the drivers for graphics are the same
[10:32] <rigved> maitrey, TheSheep: thanx for your help
[12:15] <Dracco> Hello everybody. I was asked to install xubuntu on one of my boss computers. It is a very old peace of junk, but xubuntu handles it. There are only 2 problems I would like to get help with. First, major problem is a little bit odd. While downloading and installing open office suite, when meanwhile i was checking window themes in control panel, computer just logged off. Since then, each time I try to log in, it shows the desktop and logs back off.
[12:15] <Dracco> When I swap to tty2 console and log in there, attempting to switch back to graphical mode ends up with black screen or sentence "[OK] PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions [OK] *Checking battery state...". What can be done about this? It is a desktop so it has no battery.
[12:22] <Dracco> *bump*
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> no xubuntu version used?
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> s/used/mentioned/
[12:26] <ubuXubu> just use abiworf open orfice is too much for it
[12:26] <ubuXubu> abiword
[12:26] <Dracco> But I cannot even log in
[12:27] <Dracco> xubuntu version 10.04
[12:27] <Dracco> fully updated
[12:27] <psycho_oreos> any dist-upgrades? or version upgrades (i.e. from 9.10 -> 10.04)
[12:28] <Dracco> nope, fresh install from cd downloaded from ubuntu.com
[12:28] <ubuXubu> i had 904 in my oldie ...it couldnt handle 1004, let me install it but hung fatally during updates
[12:29] <Dracco> it worked well with update, juts logged out suddenly while installing ooo
[12:29] <ubuXubu> but ill bet if u try it on ext3 u will have better luck
[12:31] <Dracco> hmm, might be ext4 fault?
[12:31] <ubuXubu> imo...old machines and ext4=issues
[12:32] <ubuXubu> i could not make buntu run on my oldies in ext4
[12:32] <ubuXubu> my newer ones yes
[12:32] <Dracco> well its not that old, 512mb ram and intel pentium 4 2.26ghz
[12:32] <ubuXubu> mine were 2,4 with 52
[12:32] <ubuXubu> 512
[12:32] <ubuXubu> same era dell
[12:33] <Dracco> and without reinstalling? i want to get rid of it asap
[12:33] <ubuXubu> i have 2 of those 2.26 also
[12:33] <ubuXubu> dell gx260
[12:35] <TheSheep> it sounds more like some problems with X
[12:35] <TheSheep> Dracco: anything in ~/.xsessionerrors?
[12:35] <TheSheep> Dracco: also, try running 'df -h' in console to see if you have any free space left on the disk
[12:36] <Dracco> checking
[12:37] <Dracco> 16GB left on system partition and 53GB on home partition should be enough
[12:38] <Dracco> about sessionerrors
[12:38] <Dracco> quite long notice in the file
[12:41] <ubuXubu> but the same machine ran 904 perfect
[12:41] <Dracco> uhm, could it be a window theme fault?
[12:44] <ubuXubu> all my other dells with 3.4, and 1-4 gb ran run 1004 beautiful.
[12:47] <TheSheep> Dracco: yes, could be
[12:48] <Dracco> ok, so how can i change theme or reset it to default over the terminal?
[12:48] <TheSheep> Dracco: window manager or gtk theme?
[12:48] <Dracco> window manager
[12:48] <TheSheep> edit .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml
[12:49] <Dracco> ok gonna try
[12:49] <TheSheep> you can use nano for that
[12:50] <Dracco> that i know ;)
[12:50] <Dracco> ok restarting and hope it will work
[12:51] <Dracco> works :D
[12:51] <Dracco> so it was the theme
[12:52] <Dracco> theme Wildbush
[12:53] <Dracco> thank you all for your help :)
[12:54] <TheSheep> glad I could help
[12:54] <Dracco> :)
[12:54] <Dracco> now its time to set up samba and return that junk to my boss :D
[12:55] <Dracco> ok im out to do that :) cya all and once again thank you for your help :)
[13:27] <crawler> hi, can someone confirm this behavior please?: on a xubuntu 10.10 using deluge 1.3.1 (ppa).  when in deluge, right-clicking a torrent and choosing "Open Folder" in the context menu causes deluge to use 100% cpu until it quits.
[13:53] <TheSheep> crawler: ppas are not part of the distribution
[13:53] <TheSheep> crawler: so report the bug to the owner of that ppa
[13:54] <crawler> TheSheep: thanks, i am doing that right now..i only asked if someone (by chance using the same software version) can confirm.
[13:56] <TheSheep> ah, sorry
[13:58] <crawler> no worries, i'm still getting the hang of things :-)
[14:13] <Gadi> does xubuntu have its own gui for display settings (xrandr), or does it use upstream xfce4's display settings for that?
[14:14] <Sysi> you can use arandr if xfce's display settings don't work
[14:16] <Gadi> thanks. I am looking for a good GUI that handles dual monitor layouts but does not have all of the deps as gnome's display settings gui (which is by far the nicest I have seen)
[16:17] <mnemoc> hi, beside installing xfce4, what do I need to install to an ubuntu 10.10 to Xfce sessions look like xubuntu's ?
[16:18] <charlie-tca> xubuntu-desktop is the actual package to install everything
[16:19] <mnemoc> oh, thanks
[16:19] <charlie-tca> You could then switch between Ubuntu and Xubuntu using "choose session" in the login screen
[16:20] <mnemoc> if i'm running over NX, what "command" should I run to get "Xubuntu"?
[16:20] <charlie-tca> I don't know NX myself. I just use "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[16:21] <mnemoc> i'll install the missing packages, mutilate the home and see what I get when asking for Xfce
[16:21] <mnemoc> thanks so much
[16:27] <mnemoc> oh, it changed the gdm theme :p
[17:14] <mnemoc> uhm... running /usr/share/xubuntu/session.sh (from xubuntu.desktop) I still get a "plain old" xfce, different than when logging in in gdm
[17:28] <charlie-tca> hm, tried running /usr/bin/xfwm4 & in that session?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> it's just a guess. I think it has to do with how the session is set up from GMD vs running session.sh
[17:32] <mnemoc> still get "plain old" xfce
[17:39] <charlie-tca> someone else might have the answer. We do have a few users around that run from a minimal install
[17:40] <mnemoc> maybe the difference is that my installation has gnome-ubuntu as default
[17:54] <mnemoc> the local users of the LTSP are already ranting against the colors of gnome-ubuntu 10.10 :p
[17:57] <charlie-tca> and I thought that was pretty good color
[17:58] <mnemoc> maybe "too happy" for them
[17:58] <charlie-tca> heh
[19:13] <xubuntu_froob> hey guys need a bit of help killing the Xserver
[19:13] <charlie-tca> You want it dead?
[19:13] <xubuntu_froob> yup
[19:13] <xubuntu_froob> want it dead
[19:14] <xubuntu_froob> gotta install nvidia binaries
[19:14] <charlie-tca> can't just install from hardware drivers?
[19:14] <xubuntu_froob> nope its the new 96 drivers on 10.10
[19:14] <xubuntu_froob> bug report says the newest ones work
[19:14] <xubuntu_froob> and they are only available as binary right now -_-
[19:15] <xubuntu_froob> pain in the arse really...but i want my 3d acceleration
[19:16] <xubuntu_froob> theres a downgrading to the old Xorg option but i cant find the post that i used last time
[19:16] <charlie-tca> Easiest way I know is to boot into recovery mode
[19:16] <xubuntu_froob> ah so recovery will do the trick on not letting Xorg start at all??
[19:16] <xubuntu_froob> ive killed the damn gdm binary but im still runnin without it
[19:17] <xubuntu_froob> didnt killall.....but then again
[19:17] <xubuntu_froob> lemme give this a few more shotts ^_^
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Usually just boots up to a menu, choosing root gives a text login screen
[20:12] <xubuntu442> chat during install is fun
[20:12] <xubuntu442> but how is that possible
[20:12] <xubuntu442> weird
[20:12] <Sysi> "through internet"
[20:13] <xubuntu442> most probably
[21:51] <jonathan> anyone here?
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[21:51] <jonathan> How do you change the default programs?
[21:52] <charlie-tca> Install different applications from the software center, remove the default applications
[21:54] <jonathan> any alternatives? it tells me if i try to uninstall thunar it will also uninstall xubuntu desktop system
[22:00] <charlie-tca> Thunar is a basic part of xubuntu. You can instll nautilus or pcfileman, but you will have to change a few things to make them work as default
[22:01] <jonathan> could you guide me in the right direction, or is it easier just to google it?
[22:01] <charlie-tca> xubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. It is only required to upgrade to the next release
[22:02] <charlie-tca> I don't have a good guide, myself.
[22:02] <jonathan> lol
[22:02] <jonathan> thanks for the help anyways
[22:02] <charlie-tca> If the desktop package is removed, it does not break things in the current release
[22:03] <jonathan> what does the desktop package do?
[22:03] <charlie-tca> it makes sure all the parts and applications for Xubuntu are installed. Otherwise, you have to install them all manually, and there are many
[22:05] <jonathan> one more question. can i resize the partition my xubuntu is currently on? i was expecting to be able to install programs on a different hard drive. i know it's possible, but i also heard it's a huge hassel
[22:05] <charlie-tca> You can resize it using the desktop cd. You can not resize a partition in use at the time
[22:06] <charlie-tca> programs in linux take a minimal amount of room.
[22:06] <charlie-tca> I can install a full working Xubuntu desktop with many applications not installed by default in less than 10GB
[22:07] <jonathan> i still only left 500mb extra on my xubuntu partition, and i am working with a 19.6gb hard drive with windows xp already on it
[22:08] <charlie-tca> I see. Yes, resizing using the desktop cd would probably be a good option
[22:09] <charlie-tca> As long as you do not create a new partition, it should work fine. Please backup anything important first, though, including windows
[22:09] <jonathan> thank you for your help. i'm going to try that now.
[22:15] <jonathan> thank you for the help. i am now resizing the partition
[23:16] <jonathan> how do i add desktop shortcuts?
[23:20] <jonathan> could i have some help please?
[23:20] <Sysi> be patient
[23:20] <Sysi> what kind of shortcut?
[23:20] <jonathan> to an application, like firefox
[23:21] <Sysi> right click → add launcher
[23:21] <jonathan> thanks
[23:34] <jonathan> how do you change the default file browser?