| dlynes_laptop | How do you disable the splash screen? I need to be able to interact with the installer, but the throb bar/splash screen is preventing me from seeing the console that is doing the install. | 15:41 |
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| charlie-tca | dlynes_laptop: edit the menu line and remove "quiet splash" from it | 15:52 |
| dlynes_laptop | charlie-tca, and that gets rid of the throb bar? I thought that was only for the png splash screen supported by the kernel? | 15:53 |
| cjwatson | err. that's a confusing question. when the installer is running, the splash screen is normally not there | 15:53 |
| charlie-tca | You can get the line on-screen from the installer menu by hitting F6 ESC | 15:53 |
| cjwatson | so I don't understand what your environment could be | 15:53 |
| cjwatson | perhaps I don't understand which splash screen you're referring to | 15:54 |
| * charlie-tca is confused, too | 15:54 | |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, my installer is a two-part install....it's a large enough install that ubuntu can't seem to complete all of it during the initial pxe boot install, so I have some additional install that happens the first time the gui boots up | 15:54 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, on 9.04 it remained in the console until the install finished, and then ran startx to boot into the gui | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | so you're referring to the splash screen that's the Ubuntu logo with dots underneath it, or similar? | 15:55 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, exactly! :) | 15:55 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, with the moving dots | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | then what charlie-tca said should be correct (though removing 'quiet' is probably unnecessary). that splash screen isn't supported by the kernel, it's done in userspace | 15:55 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, yeah...that's what I figured | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | that said, you may need something a bit more sophisticated depending on how much you're doing with the console | 15:56 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, is it actually a process that gets run, that I can just kill? | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | yes, plymouth, but better to stop it cleanly | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | try without 'splash' first and see what happens | 15:56 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, you mean 'kill plymouthd'? | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | I mean try without 'splash' first and see what happens. :-) | 15:56 |
| dlynes_laptop | Oh, ok | 15:56 |
| dlynes_laptop | thanks | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | not prepared to venture more until you've tried that | 15:57 |
| dlynes_laptop | ok.. | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | when you run without 'splash', plymouth is still running, but passes boot messages through | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | (it's basically doing multiplexing) | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | if that doesn't work, it would be best to run 'plymouth quit' | 15:59 |
| cjwatson | generally if you can try to avoid killing processes that's cleanere | 15:59 |
| cjwatson | *cleaner | 15:59 |
| dwhitehead | just encountered an issue with 10.04 upgrade and mysql... won't work now | 16:00 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, yeah...I only need this for the first boot | 16:00 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, after the first boot, I'm fine to have plymouth run | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | dwhitehead: I'm afraid we do initial installations here, not upgrades. try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server? | 16:00 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, actually....this is the current append line: append ramdisk_size=14984 locale=en_CA console-setup/layoutcode=en_CA netcfg/wireless_wep= netcfg/choose_interface=eth0 netcfg_gethostname= url=http://preseed.ubuntu.com/preseed-lucid-station-installer.cfg vga=normal initrd=lucid-station-installer/i386/initrd.gz -- | 16:00 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, erm...nvm....it's not using that at this point...it's already past that point | 16:01 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, I guess as part of my preseed late_command, I should modify the grub2 configs to modify the plymouth out of there? | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | more likely, you'd need to run 'plymouth quit' at the start of your second-stage installer commands | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | thinking about it, running without 'splash' probably won't actually help much, sorry | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | but just telling plymouth to go away should be straightforward | 16:06 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, Ok, because I just tried the 'plymouth quit' command, and I'm left with a black screen....no text on it...is that normal? | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | well, I'm expecting that you would be running your second-stage installer code after that, and that it will put something on the console ... | 16:11 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, trying that now, thanks | 16:16 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, btw...is the 10.04 installer supposed to take considerably longer than the 9.04 install? | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | ext4 is known to slow things down somewhat sometimes | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | long story | 16:19 |
| dlynes_laptop | Oh...why was it chosen as the default, then? | 16:20 |
| dlynes_laptop | Or is it faster after everything's installed and you're only writing data? | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | again, long story :) dpkg is kind of a worst case for it due to the things it has to do to be absolutely reliable | 16:35 |
| dlynes_laptop | ah | 16:46 |
| dlynes_laptop | Anyways...I seem to be getting the 2nd stage installer on tty7 now, and a blinking cursor about 8 lines down on a completely black screen on tty1 | 16:48 |
| dlynes_laptop | tty2 through tty6 seem to be what you would normally expect | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | it's possible you may need to explicitly chvt after quitting plymouth | 16:50 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, yeah...I'm on a limited timeline today, though....so I'm skipping the 2nd stage install for now, and doing it manually, instead | 16:57 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, it was working very well for 9.04, but completely fubar with 10.04 (and I'm guessing 10.1 as well) | 16:58 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, it seemed to work for 9.1 as well, but 9.1 was a bust for us because of nfs mounts over pxe boot not working so well | 16:58 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, it's something i'm going to have to address in 10.04 now, so when I figure it out, i'll be sending script patches and a bug report onto launchpad.net | 16:59 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, thanks for the tip about chvt, though...I will try that on Monday | 17:00 |
| Riddell | what's the best way to create an ubuntu bootable usb stick from non-ubuntu linux? | 17:01 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, btw, I'm guessing ubuntu has a limited number of tasksels you can do in the preseed? | 17:01 |
| dlynes_laptop | Riddell, Same way as you create it from ubuntu linux? | 17:02 |
| Riddell | dlynes_laptop: so "create usb-creator packages for suse" then "use usb-creator" ? | 17:02 |
| dlynes_laptop | Riddell, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/ | 17:04 |
| dlynes_laptop | Riddell, distribution independent, that way | 17:04 |
| dlynes_laptop | Riddell, afaik, usb-creator only works if you're running ubuntu | 17:04 |
| dlynes_laptop | Riddell, but, i'm not an expert, either | 17:05 |
| cjwatson | dlynes_laptop: theoretically you should be able to select as many packages as you like | 17:05 |
| cjwatson | dlynes_laptop: maybe you're running into a command-line length limit or something, if you tried to install a truly enormous number | 17:05 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, that's what i thought, but 9.04 seemed to cut me off after so many packages | 17:05 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, i was installing an enormous number, but they were all one per line | 17:06 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, was installing a bunch of drivers, network management/diagnostic tools, software development tools and software development libraries | 17:07 |
| cjwatson | yeah, but they all go onto one giant apt-get install line in the end | 17:07 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, ah...so how do you get around that, then? | 17:07 |
| cjwatson | file a bug with logs and I'll look at it | 17:07 |
| dlynes_laptop | How do I get logs of it? | 17:07 |
| cjwatson | after it fails, hit the go-back button until you get to the main menu, and select "save debug logs" | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | or you can switch to alt-f2, run 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb', and then you have scp | 17:08 |
| dlynes_laptop | cjwatson, this is in the console installer? or the gui installer? | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | /var/log/syslog is the important one | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | console | 17:08 |
| dlynes_laptop | Ok, thanks....much appreciated | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | the GUI installer doesn't have tasksel | 17:08 |
| dlynes_laptop | I will include the preseed config file as well | 17:09 |
| dlynes_laptop | Again...don't know if i'll get it on there today, or not....but by Monday for sure | 17:09 |
| dlynes_laptop | Btw...if we have a support contract with Canonical, can we get packages backported, such as wireshark 1.4? | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | I don't know the answer to that - you'd have to ask your support contact | 17:13 |
| cjwatson | development and support are fairly separate, except for escalated bugs and the like | 17:13 |
| dlynes_laptop | ah...ok | 17:14 |
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