[00:00] <yggdrasil> haha
[00:01] <yggdrasil> its a volkswagon can and the air conditioning duct runs right ther and i think its got some hefty bolts up there.
[00:01] <yggdrasil> ill have to play with it.
[00:01] <yggdrasil> and its heavy ass laptop too
[00:01] <Zinn> yggdrasil: Please watch your language.
[00:01] <yggdrasil> yes sir
[00:02] <yggdrasil> is that an automated response ?
[00:03] <rhpot1991> yggdrasil: yep
[00:03] <yggdrasil> ok im out
[00:03] <yggdrasil> bbl
[00:50] <Wicked> hello all. ive got a pvr-150 and i followed these directions on installing the required kernel module(lirc_zilog) and its installed fine and i can load it...but i cannot start lirc. heres the guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9211073&postcount=64
[00:50] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] Ubuntu Forums - View Single Post - Using PVR150 IR Blaster In Mythbuntu 9.10b
[00:51] <Wicked> lirc wont start saying:
[00:51] <Wicked> * Unable to load LIRC kernel modules. Verify your
[00:51] <Wicked>  * selected kernel modules in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[00:51] <Wicked> my hardware.conf: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/W12HRwC9
[06:59] <ubuXubu> is mythbuntu xfce ir wut?
[06:59] <ubuXubu> or wut*
[07:22] <tgm4883> ubuntulo1, yes
[07:22] <tgm4883> ubuXubu, yes
[07:23] <ubuXubu> so it is xubuntu
[07:24] <ubuXubu> why is it called....myth
[07:24] <ubuXubu> is it cos it really doesnt exist
[07:27] <ubuXubu> barn door is open martin___
[07:28] <martin___> ubuXubu: huh?
[07:30] <tgm4883> ubuXubu, cause it is the combination of MythTV and Ubuntu
[07:30] <ubuXubu> wut is mythtv
[07:31] <tgm4883> ubuXubu, seriously?
[07:31] <ubuXubu> is that a os
[07:31] <ubuXubu> never heard of that one
[07:31] <tgm4883> you are in the #ubuntu-mythtv channel
[07:31] <ubuXubu> i typed in mythbuntu
[07:31] <tgm4883> why did you type in mythbuntu?
[07:32] <ubuXubu> i heard it was an os
[07:32] <tgm4883> it is
[07:32] <tgm4883> http://www.mythtv.org/
[07:32] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR
[07:32] <tgm4883> http://mythbuntu.org/
[07:33] <ubuXubu> wow
[07:33] <ubuXubu> awesome
[07:33] <tgm4883> I know!
[07:34] <tgm4883> Super awesome!
[07:34] <ubuXubu> can i get free tv
[07:34] <tgm4883> where do you live?
[07:34] <ubuXubu> MA
[07:34] <ubuXubu> USA
[07:34] <tgm4883> Probably, I would assume there is OTA there
[07:35] <ubuXubu> holy shit
[07:35] <Zinn> ubuXubu: Please watch your language.
[07:35] <ubuXubu> ur kidden
[07:35] <tgm4883> i'm headed to bed though
[07:35] <ubuXubu> how many channels
[07:35] <tgm4883> so you will have to read all about it on the website
[07:35] <tgm4883> IDK, that depends on your area
[07:35] <ubuXubu> ok
[07:35] <tgm4883> you should check out antennaweb to find out
[07:36] <ubuXubu> i thought it was another buntu os
[07:37] <ubuXubu> ru serious
[07:38] <ubuXubu> so u download the os to get the free tv
[08:05] <ubuXubu> excuse me for a moment, ill brb
[08:15] <henrik_> any news on when .24 will be in the repo?
[12:43] <mrand> henrik_: it should already be there.  You may need to update your mythbuntu-repos package.
[12:44] <henrik_> thx mrand !
[12:44] <mrand> Note, I'm referring to auto-builds PPA, not the official Ubuntu repo.  It won't be available there until 11.04
[12:44] <mrand> henrik_: ^
[12:44] <henrik_> I can w8 for it to land in the official ;)
[12:45] <mrand> henrik_: the good news is that it should be VERY stable by then.  The bad news is that it is 6 months away.
[12:46] <henrik_> ohh okej.. I think I will need to reconsider :P
[12:46] <henrik_> I thaught it was 11.04 pm tonight :) some kind och script doing mirroring or something like it ;)
[12:52] <mrand> yeah.... 11.04 = natty
[13:02] <castlec> hey guys.  I'm having trouble getting the nvidia proprietary drivers on my diskless system.  is anyone able to help?
[15:16] <Azelphur> Do we have 0.24 packages yet?
[15:16] <Azelphur> also is there an upgrade guide
[15:18] <rhpot1991> Azelphur: they should be in the autobuilds, and no to a guide
[15:18] <Azelphur> so I just run dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos and select 0.24 then upgrade?
[15:19] <Azelphur> and cross fingers
[15:22] <castlec> I'm having trouble getting the nvidia proprietary drivers on my diskless system.  is anyone able to help?
[15:53] <Azelphur> Having problems upgrading to Mythbuntu 10.10 http://pastebin.com/YB2j4uGB
[15:53] <Azelphur> line 63 is where the bad stuff starts happening
[15:56] <rhpot1991> Azelphur: let me dig, I hit that
[15:56] <Azelphur> ok
[15:56] <rhpot1991> I hit this issue today, installed x11-common by hand to get the latest version (sudo apt-get install x11-common), now my upgrades is on its way again.
[15:57] <rhpot1991> thats how I solved it a while back
[15:57] <rhpot1991> feel free to add a comment onto this bug or read up on it bug 639933
[15:57] <Zinn> Bug 639933 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "10.04 -> 10.10beta: could not install the upgrades - Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle." [High, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/639933
[15:57] <Azelphur> fun
[16:18] <rulet> Hello. I've installed 0.24 from this https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.24 repository. And the old problem appeared: "Cannot login database". Any ideas?
[16:18] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] 0.24 : âMythbuntu Developersâ team
[16:19] <Azelphur> rhpot1991: that doesn't seem to work for me
[16:20] <rhpot1991> Azelphur: read the bug then I'd say
[16:21] <Azelphur> I did, tried the dpkg thing too
[16:21] <Azelphur> I'll go through and see if theres any more
[16:29] <Azelphur> I'm trying comment #2 which is scary
[16:29] <Azelphur> it's removing half the universe
[16:30] <CRU_> Hey guys....I am in need of some help.  I just installed a geforce 210 but can't get the sound to transfer via hdmi.  In my device manager I have a ? next to HDA Nvidia Sound Card
[16:38] <CRU_> Anyone know how to get sound working on the geforce 210 or help on how?
[16:40] <rhpot1991> CRU_: I know someone who had it working outside of myth and then had to modify their myth sound settings to use hw(1,3) instead of hw(0,3).  I think
[16:40] <rhpot1991> CRU_: check in alsamixer that its not muted as well
[16:41] <CRU_> i dont get any sound from it.  I just dont know how to get it installed properly.
[16:45] <rhpot1991> check alsamixer then test things with vlc or something
[16:45] <rhpot1991> get it working then move onto mythtv
[16:48] <CRU_> ok...i'll start here.
[16:56] <CRU_> rhpot1991: in alsamixer, I have a realtex nvidia alc888 *i believe onboard* that has volume, but when I switch cards, the other has no controls *the one for hdmi*
[17:26] <Azelphur> rhpot1991, I removed x11-common and that got the update to run
[17:27] <Azelphur> now I've updated and it doesn't make to X
[17:27] <Azelphur> I get the Ubuntu splash screen and it says "The disk drive for UUID-8464... is not ready yet or not present"
[17:28] <Azelphur> it offers me to continue to wait. S to Skip or M for manual recovery
[17:28] <Azelphur> if I press S not much happens it just continues sitting at the splash screen
[17:28] <Azelphur> I can SSH or Switch to a TTY though
[17:28] <Azelphur> so basically it's just not starting X
[17:30] <Azelphur> looks like I have no GDM, I'm installing it now and its installing a huge tonne of X packages with it, hopefully that'll fix it
[17:38] <henrik_> Hello! Anyone who know something about bach scripting? I got a problem loading DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real & in a screen
[17:38] <CRU_> Hey guys.  Setting up my first mythtv box.  I have a 210 geforce card with hdmi.  When I connect to my tv and play through surround sound, sound works, but through tv only all I get is clicking noises. Any idea why?
[17:41] <henrik_> this is the script I'm trying to load thru crown job to be runed every minute. http://paste.ubuntu.com/530136/
[17:42] <henrik_> the problem is that I can't get the start command running thru a screen.
[17:42] <henrik_> and without a screen the command puts out debug information so it never stops and can continue the script
[18:02] <rhpot1991> CRU_: disable the surround sound passthrough
[18:03] <rhpot1991> and/or tell it your speakers are stereo and not 5.1
[18:03] <rhpot1991> Azelphur: check your /etc/fstab sounds like you have something in there that doesn't exist
[18:06] <CRU_> what does the surround sound passthrough do?
[18:09] <rhpot1991> passes dts and such
[18:09] <Azelphur> rhpot1991, I've got like 10 different problems so I just decided to reinstall
[18:09] <Azelphur> including that one :(
[18:10] <Azelphur> reinstall and pull the tables from the old install should hopefully work
[18:12] <rhpot1991> old install is what version of myth?
[18:13] <Azelphur> 0.23.1
[18:13] <Azelphur> I wanted to do mythbuntu 10.04 -> 10.10 and 0.23.1 -> 0.24
[18:13] <rhpot1991> just make sure you restore your tables before you install 0.24
[18:14] <Azelphur> yea
[18:15] <Juppers> does anyone know how to fix the python bindings after going to .24 in mythbuntu 10.10?
[18:17] <Juppers> The autobuilds seem to not include the correct python bindings.
[19:39] <superm1> Juppers, there's been a few people saying this, could you help debug by chance?
[19:39] <superm1> for starters, which mirror of 0.24 do you have
[19:39] <superm1> you can see in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:40] <Juppers> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/repos/ubuntu maverick main deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu maverick main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu maverick main
[19:40] <Zinn> [ppa.launchpad.net] Index of /mythbuntu/repos/ubuntu
[19:41] <superm1> okay so you've got the PPA mirror
[19:41] <superm1> that's good
[19:41] <superm1> next, what version of myth* do you have installed? - "dpkg -l | grep myth"
[19:41] <superm1> (without the quotes)
[19:42] <superm1> and put that in a pastebin
[19:42] <superm1> !pastebin
[19:42] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[19:44] <Juppers> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/A6ACKuAR
[19:45] <superm1> okay so it looks like the proper version of the bindings is installed
[19:46] <superm1> you can double check the files by this: "dpkg -L libmyth-python"
[19:50] <Juppers> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/zmvrWjXb
[19:50] <Juppers> [~]:mythpython --version    MythTV Python Bindings   local versions     bindings version:   Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/mythpython", line 13, in <module>     print '    bindings version:  ', '.'.join([str(i) for i in static.OWN_VERSION]) NameError: name 'static' is not defined
[19:50] <superm1> hmm.. so somehow you have another copy installed elsewhere it seems
[19:51] <superm1> check in /usr/local ?
[19:51] <superm1> did you ever build from source manually?
[19:51] <Juppers> not since .22
[19:52] <superm1> okay, so check in the following directories for a directory called MythTV
[19:53] <superm1> [ '/usr/lib/python2.6', '/usr/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PIL', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gst-0.10', '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gtk-2.0', '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode', '/usr/loca
[19:53] <superm1> l/lib/python2.6/dist-packages']
[19:53] <superm1> it's more thank likely in '/usr/lib/python2.6' or '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages'
[19:53] <superm1> or '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages'
[19:57] <Juppers> found /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/MythTV]:
[19:57] <superm1> is that just a symlink with /usr/share/pyshared/MythTV though by chance?
[19:58] <Juppers> I think the winner of the bad will be /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/MythTV]:
[19:58] <superm1> before you axe it, see if anything is claiming ownership
[19:58] <Juppers> I mean [/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages]: l ./  ../  MythTV/  MythTV-0.22.egg-info  MythTV-0.23.0.egg-info
[19:59] <superm1> /usr/local ?
[19:59] <superm1> so it was from a handle compile a while back then it sounds
[19:59] <Juppers> nuke it?
[19:59] <superm1> yeah if it's within /usr/local, nuke it
[20:00] <Juppers> sorry so terse, trying to merge the arclight metadata selector with extended video info into mythbuntu right now too.
[20:01] <superm1> no problems.  it's a relief it's not caused by the packages
[20:01] <Juppers> [/]: mythpython --version MythTV Python Bindings   local versions     bindings version:   0.24.0.0
[20:01] <Juppers> much better
[20:29] <funsheep> hello, i tried to install mythtv 0.24 now the backend won't start, saying "Error: There are no cards in the database". I don't have a tv card, so thats obviously true. But the backend does not start. How do need to configure the backend so that it starts again?
[20:30] <tgm4883> funsheep, there is an option in the backend to set up a dummy card
[20:31] <superm1> 0.24 makes it a requirement to have some card, even if it's a dummy
[20:31] <funsheep> yeah noticed that. backend goes into an endless loop trying to start
[20:32] <tgm4883> superm1, I thought we had fixed that?
[20:32] <tgm4883> or have we not fixed that yet?
[20:32] <superm1> the endless loop thing?
[20:32] <tgm4883> yea
[20:33] <superm1> i think you had some ideas for it
[20:33] <superm1> with upstart jobby stuff to count how many times it failed
[20:33] <superm1> but i dont think it was ever implemented
[20:33] <tgm4883> fine leave :)
[20:33] <tgm4883> superm1, yea I think your right
[20:34] <tgm4883> yep, it's a bug targeted for 11.04
[20:34] <tgm4883> alpha1 that is
[20:34] <funsheep> couldn't find the dummy card, only test recorder and demo recorder - both want a filepath as a parameter
[20:35] <tgm4883> superm1, ^^
[20:35] <tgm4883> I haven't set mine up yet on 0.24, so IDK
[20:35] <superm1> either of them are fine just to get the backend running without a tuner
[20:35] <superm1> demo recorder is probably what i was referring to
[20:37] <funsheep> ok. maybe the demo recorder then should be added as a "dummy recorder" to make things obvious (at least for me) :) i'll try that. i would like to add that to the documentation then - should i do that, and if yes, where? thanks in advance
[20:38] <nico_> hello
[20:39] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/674215
[20:39] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #674215 in Mythbuntu: â/usr/share/mythtv/metadata shoud be part of mythtv-common, not mythtv-backendâ
[20:39] <tgm4883> funsheep, I added it to the mythbuntu 0.24 mythtv page
[20:40] <mrand> funsheep: if you were so inclined, the installation guide would be the best place: http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki
[20:41] <superm1> camelreef, interesting, i thought that frontends now trigger that to happen on the backend
[20:41]  * camelreef has finally upgraded to maverick and the 0.24 nightlies
[20:42] <camelreef> superm1, well, the frontend logs were showing the command line and were returning zero result
[20:42] <camelreef> I copied the directory over, and voila
[20:42] <superm1> hm
[20:42] <camelreef> maybe it is a remaining config
[20:42] <superm1> but i thought as soon as it was imported a backend job is supposed to kick off the metadata grab automagically
[20:43] <superm1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Mass_Metadata_Grabbing
[20:43] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythVideo - MythTV
[20:44] <camelreef> superm1, I'm with you, I read the same thing somewhere, but heh, not reality on my setup
[20:44] <superm1> well it will need to be investigated a little bit before shuffling around
[20:44] <superm1> otherwise there's some messy conflicts/replaces that need to be done
[20:45] <camelreef> sure
[20:45] <camelreef> I'm the messenger!
[20:45] <superm1> thanks!
[20:46] <camelreef> is Jamu still on acron on 0.24?
[20:46]  * camelreef goes lookig....
[20:46] <superm1>  it should be
[20:46] <tgm4883> it's a fallback
[20:46] <camelreef> ok
[20:47] <camelreef> and do you remember that bug with $LANG in the startup script making use of directories with accentuated chars impossible?
[20:47] <camelreef> it's back
[20:47] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/541042
[20:47] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #541042 in Mythbuntu: âlocale is not set up before mythtv-backend start causing problems in mythvideo with accentuated charsâ
[20:48] <funsheep> Sorry do bother you again, but i can't get my system to work again. I tried both test and demo recorder (without setting a filepath). After that trying to set a video source the setup hangs.
[20:48] <superm1> dang camelreef
[20:48] <camelreef> hehe
[20:48] <camelreef> you need more French users!
[20:48] <tgm4883> funsheep, i'd try using a filepath for a video
[20:50] <camelreef> without metadata scrips on remote frontend:
[20:50] <camelreef> 2010-11-11 19:58:53.187 Running Grabber: /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Television/ttvdb.py -l en -M Battlestar Galactica 2003
[20:50] <camelreef> 2010-11-11 19:58:53.211 No results found for Battlestar Galactica 2003 1 1
[20:50] <superm1> camelreef, http://paste.ubuntu.com/530250/
[20:51] <superm1> does that fix it for you?
[20:52] <camelreef> superm1, yes, it does (I just did a copy/paste from the backed-up script generated by dpkg)
[20:53] <superm1> camelreef, could you just double check with this exact one to make sure the syntax is right?  if so, i'll add that to t onight's autobuilds
[20:53] <superm1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/530251/
[20:53] <funsheep> tgm4883, ah. i was to impatient. everything works again. thanks for the help!
[20:54] <camelreef> I used this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/530252/
[20:54] <superm1> okay more or less the same then
[20:54] <camelreef> if the one I used works, yours will work
[20:57] <camelreef> for the grabbers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/530257/
[20:59] <superm1> yeah i didn't think ttvdb.py was still used
[20:59] <superm1> but it might be
[20:59] <tgm4883> superm1, jamu uses it
[20:59] <tgm4883> since jamu is the fallback
[21:00] <superm1> but the integrated stuff shouldn't need it
[21:00] <tgm4883> right
[21:00] <tgm4883> RDV might know more, but he isn't here
[21:00] <tgm4883> no one answered me in -users on that
[21:00] <tgm4883> oh well, off to learn about DNS
[21:00] <camelreef> c'est speco comment The Edge sort la gratte de Where the streets have no name
[21:00] <camelreef> oops
[21:01] <camelreef> well, the integrated stuff may not use it
[21:01] <camelreef> but if you want to manually fix metadata it apparently uses it
[21:01] <camelreef> W key
[21:02] <superm1> i tried to invite RDV in
[21:02] <superm1> he should be able to get down to the bottom of this
[21:07] <camelreef> OK guys
[21:07] <camelreef> thanks for the hard work
[21:07] <camelreef> time to actually use MythTV, not just tinker with it :o)
[21:07] <camelreef> then bed
[21:08] <camelreef> ttyl
[21:10] <camelreef> oh, one last thing: the libmyth package is still called libmyth-0.23
[21:10]  * camelreef is probably not the first with htat one...
[21:11] <camelreef> libmyth-0.23-0, to be exact
[21:11] <camelreef> with 0.24.0~trunk26882-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu2 as a version
[21:12] <superm1> camelreef, you must be on an old build
[21:12] <superm1> the current builds are 0.24.0+fixesZYX
[21:12] <camelreef> ah
[21:12] <superm1> which mirror are you using?
[21:12] <camelreef> hmmm
[21:12] <camelreef> I used the nightlies deb
[21:12] <camelreef> to set that up
[21:12] <superm1> yeah but which mirror did you select?
[21:13] <superm1> i think 2 of them have problems currently
[21:13] <camelreef> UK and 0.24
[21:13] <superm1> open up MCC and reconfigure it to be "PPA" or "de"
[21:13] <superm1> either of those should be fine
[21:13] <superm1> UK and US are both busted AFAIK
[21:13] <camelreef> http://uk.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu
[21:13] <camelreef> aaaah
[21:13] <camelreef> ok
[21:15] <camelreef> a dpkg-reconfigure later... and plenty to upgrade !
[21:15] <camelreef> including a libmyth swap
[21:16] <camelreef> should I open a bug on mythbuntu-repos ?
[21:16] <superm1> tgm4883 knows about it
[21:16] <superm1> i think there's actually a bug open too
[21:17] <superm1> solution might end up being to just pull out the repos if we dont get em fixed soon
[21:17] <camelreef> K
[21:57] <stevieman> I am trying to use the autobuilds to update from .23.1 to .24 but I am getting a message saying only a partial upgrade is possible. Items like mythtv-backend, mythtv-frontend, mythgame are not selectable in the update manager
[22:09] <tgm4883> stevieman, what repo did you select for 0.24?
[22:10] <stevieman> tgm4883: I selected PPA
[22:10] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:10] <tgm4883> new dependencies maybe?
[22:10] <tgm4883> try an "apt-get -s dist-upgrade"
[22:12] <stevieman> tgm4883: I don't know, I think I'll just sit and wait a while before I upgrade. I just got the machine working, I don't want to break it again. Anyways, I gotta run
[22:12] <tgm4883> and thats what the -s is for
[22:35] <superm1> update-manager will do it for you too generally
[22:51] <camelreef> wow, audio sync on that remote frontend is quite off
[22:52] <camelreef> and that auto-population is giving waaaaaay too many choices
[22:55] <camelreef> got a good setup now
[22:55] <camelreef> and the judder-free setup now works on the main frontend
[22:55] <camelreef> that 0.24 release is quite nifty !
[22:57] <camelreef> pulseaudio in sync on the laptop is unheard of
[22:59] <camelreef> good night from Scotland!
[23:13] <CRU_> Hey.  I need some help.  I have just installed a geforce 210 card and want to change my default audio device in mythbuntu to the hw:1,7  but I cant figure out how to do it...been trying for about an hour
[23:19] <rhpot1991> CRU_: just type that into the audio page?
[23:19] <CRU_> but I cant get sound on any other programs if I just do that.
[23:20] <CRU_> I will get sound for tv...but any other application I have open from mythtv (i.e. hulu) wont give any sound
[23:21] <tgm4883> hulu isn't an application, it's a website
[23:22] <CRU_> they have a desktop application you can download actually
[23:22] <Azelphur> Hmm, Metadata grabbing doesn't seem to be working at all for me in the new MythTV
[23:22] <Azelphur> press W, nothing happens
[23:23] <Azelphur> well it puts the little timer up for a second but besides that nothing happens
[23:24] <Azelphur> I'm using the mythbuntu 0.24 build