[00:16] <Skaag> I remember a debian package called apt-spy or something of the sorts, which found the fastest repository mirror by performing a series of ping tests
[00:16] <Skaag> I can't see that it made its way to Ubuntu - is there some alternative?
[02:55] <yitz_> I assume the "system wide" /etc/crontab file is being used even when crontab -l says there is no crontab?
[03:27] <Scunizi> when I http://localhost/Joomla/ for the installation files the system actually wants to "save" a file.. using 127.0.0.1/Joomla/ however works.. any ideas?
[03:31] <twb> Scunizi: debug it using curl -v instead of a web browser.
[03:31] <twb> Usually "the browser wants to `save' a file" means that the server is returning a MIME type the browser doesn't understand.
[03:32] <Scunizi> twb: I've never used curl before.. curl -v <then what?>
[03:32] <twb> diff -U999 <(curl -vso/dev/null http://localhost/Joomla/) <(curl -vso/dev/null http://127.0.0.1/Joomla/)
[03:33] <twb> You could use netcat instead, but curl is probably sufficient, and easier to use.
[03:34] <twb> yitz_: crontab -l reports the *user's* crontab.  root can have a user crontab, in /var/spool/cron/, but this is unrelated to the system crontabs (/etc/crontab, /etc/cron.*/).
[03:34] <twb> yitz_: or: yes, you are correct.
[03:35] <yitz_> You're all over the place, twb
[03:35] <yitz_> Thanks :)
[03:36] <Scunizi> twb: http://pastebin.com/jSnN6EaK ... the results of the line you gave me.
[03:37] <twb> Ugh
[03:37] <Scunizi> that didn't sound/read good...
[03:37] <twb> I forgot that curl's output goes to stderr
[03:39] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/99522/ <-- should be more like this
[03:39] <twb> I forgot the 2>&1's, see?
[03:39] <Scunizi> ok.. redoing
[03:40] <twb> What that's actually doing is browsing to both URLs, discarding the result but showing the HTTP interaction between the client (curl) and the server.  And the diff part compares the differences
[03:41] <Scunizi> twb: ok.. this is what I've got. http://pastebin.com/tk6HZ06j
[03:42] <Scunizi> Ugh.. wrong link in the line
[03:42] <Scunizi> sorry
[03:44] <Scunizi> twb: trying again.. http://pastebin.com/yaHJFt0T
[03:45] <Scunizi> looks like it didn't hit the localhost address at all.
[04:04] <twb> Scunizi: er, no, you forgot the second 2>&1
[04:05] <twb> Also, don't put sudo in front, that's breaking it
[04:23] <circelz> I'm about to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server edition.  I want to run Apache, anonymous FTP, and rtorrent.  Should I install Enterprise Cloud or just Server?
[04:23] <twb> Do you have a cloud?
[04:26] <circelz> No.
[04:26] <twb> Then install -server
[04:27] <circelz> Okay.
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know why the postgresql installs a bin/ and lib/ under /usr/lib/postgresql/<version> instead of using /usr/lib/postgresql/ and /usr/bin/postgresql/ ?
[04:51] <twb> tonyyarusso: because that's what the FHS specifies it should do
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> twb: Really?  Would you mind explaining that to me?
[04:52] <twb> Yes.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> heh, all right
[04:53]  * tonyyarusso goes to re-do some reading and attempt to parse
[04:54] <twb> !FHS
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> twb: already on the pathnamecome site
[04:55] <twb> I don't know what "the pathnamecome site" is.
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html , where the FHS lives
[04:57] <twb> Oh, right.  Carry on.
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> This appears to be the key phrase "and internal binaries that are not intended to be executed directly by users or shell scripts."
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Although that seems a bit dubious, since I could totally see myself using these in scripts.
[05:00] <twb> It's a grey area
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Clearly - the postgresql-common package puts stuff in /usr/bin :P
[05:01] <twb> Presumably that's because they're arch-independent scripts.
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> /usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin/createdb: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> /usr/bin/pg_lsclusters: a /usr/bin/perl -wT script text executable
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> all righty
[05:12] <twb> -common is an artefact of the mirror's distribution process
[05:13] <twb> It's better to have twenty 1MB foo_<arch>.deb's  and one 19MB foo-common_<arch>.deb than twenty 20MB foo_<arch>.deb's
[05:19] <r3sno> hello all
[05:20] <Datz> ls
[05:21] <twb> Datz: error: stale NFS handle
[05:21] <Datz> :p
[06:29] <r3sno> im trying to get my server to connect to a wifi connection. but its not hardly working. ive looked at the "docs" which all say dont use them. so im hopeless in finding a solution
[06:29] <twb> r3sno: what part isn't working?
[06:30] <r3sno> twb: dhcpdiscover isnt getting the ip. so im thinking its not connecting some hw. im testing with an open ap now
[06:30] <twb> So the interface exists in "ip a" and you can manually assign a static configuration and push packets to hosts over it?
[06:31] <r3sno> the interface exists. how would i push packets over it?
[06:31] <twb> r3sno: ping, for example
[06:32] <twb> Obviously you would need to configure the interface first.
[06:32] <r3sno> well, i mean can i specify that connection?
[06:32] <r3sno> i guess im trying to isolate the issue first.
[06:32] <twb> e.g. ip l set dev wlan0 up; ip a add addr 192.168.223.2/24 dev wlan0
[06:33] <twb> r3sno: you specify the connection by ensuring your route table is correct
[06:36] <r3sno> my card is listed as eth1 when i do that... i get "Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "addr".
[06:36] <r3sno> "
[06:37] <twb> Sorry, "ip a add 192.168.223.2/24 dev eth1"
[06:37] <twb> Where 192.168.223.2 is your desired IP and /24 is the CIDR range
[06:37] <twb> The route should be added automatically.
[06:38] <r3sno> Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "inet".
[06:40] <twb> This is 10.04?
[06:40] <r3sno> yep
[06:41] <twb> You didn't type "inet", so I don't see what went wrong
[06:41] <r3sno> do i only use that "ip a add 192.168.223.2/24 dev eth1"?
[06:41] <twb> You type what I told you to type, yes
[06:42] <r3sno> oh, i just fixed the previous statement... ok
[06:42] <twb> Actually it should be "ip a add 192.168.223.2/24 dev eth1 brd +"
[06:42] <twb> The "brd +" makes broadcast work, which probably isn't important for the initial test
[06:42] <r3sno> ok done
[06:42] <twb> So now you can try to ping your wifi AP, which has the address 192.168.223.2
[06:43] <twb> Er. So now you can try to ping your wifi AP, which has the address 192.168.223.1
[11:31] <xampart> if i have / mounted from eg. /dev/sda1 and i make a partition for /home in /dev/sdb1 What are the appropriate steps, and could i do them online?
[11:32] <mgolisch> steps for what?
[11:33] <xampart> like "cd /home/ && mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/newhome && cp -a . /mnt/newhome && umount /mnt/newhome && mount /dev/sdb1 /home"
[11:33] <mgolisch> yeah something like that
[11:33] <mgolisch> id edit the fstab afterwards so its mounted on everyboot
[11:33] <xampart> yep.
[14:08] <chrismat> Hi is anyone running Ubuntu 10.04 with CentOS 5 NFS server?
[14:09] <chrismat> I'm getting reoccuring NFS kernel panics on the CentOS 5 nfs server
[14:10] <patdk-wk> nope, never used centos/rhel as a nfs server
[14:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: hi - bug 579892 - that's the one I ran into?
[14:40] <hallyn> mathiaz: no, you're on maverick right?
[14:40] <hallyn> maverick has the fix
[14:40] <mathiaz> hallyn: correct
[14:40] <mathiaz> hallyn: seems like a similar bug though
[14:40] <hallyn> yeah,
[14:41] <hallyn> around the time of the prague rally, there were a lot of these little bugs floating around
[14:41] <hallyn> unfortunately the bug reports got jumbled together with meaningless 'me toos' which slowed down debugging
[14:42] <hallyn> mathiaz: the test with ns_exec and veths will help us know whether it's libvirt or the kernel/bridge.ko
[14:49] <ivoks> soren: thanks
[14:49] <ivoks> mathiaz: thanks
[14:50] <ivoks> i got the t-shirt and the note :D
[14:50] <mathiaz> ivoks: :)
[14:50] <ivoks> ttx: thank you too! :)
[14:50] <ttx> heh, no problem dude
[14:51] <ivoks> i'll put it on the wall
[14:51] <ivoks> ;.}
[14:54] <mathiaz> hallyn: hm - that's annoying - I can't reproduce the freeze today
[14:56] <hallyn> hm
[14:58] <hallyn> gr, finally upgraded my netbook to maverick, and now it won't resume
[14:58] <hallyn> guess i'll be wiping the thing and goin gback to lucid
[15:02] <eagles0513875|2> anyoen here have dovecot + postfix working on ubuntu lucid? im having an occasionally weird error with squirrelmail
[15:03] <mathiaz> hallyn: \o/ - I can reproduce it
[15:04] <eagles0513875|2> im having some strange issues with squirrelmail complaining about permissions
[15:04] <eagles0513875|2> yet i fixed the permissions
[15:04] <hallyn> mathiaz: what did you change to reproduce it?
[15:04] <eagles0513875|2> how can i fix this error Nov 11 15:41:46 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jonathan): mkdir(/home/jonathan/Maildir/.INBOX.Sent/cur) failed: Permission denied (euid=1000(jonathan) egid=1000(jonathan) missing +w perm: /home/jonathan)
[15:04] <mathiaz> hallyn: well - I've rebooted my system
[15:05] <mathiaz> hallyn: and then I powered off the guest that was second to start rather than the first one
[15:05] <eagles0513875|2> i added the group jonathan on the /home/jonathan folder on all folders to have rwx permissions
[15:05] <mathiaz> hallyn: then running guests froze
[15:05] <mathiaz> hallyn: I'll give you the output of the command in the bug now
[15:10] <mathiaz> hallyn: bug 673705 updated
[15:11] <hallyn> thx
[15:11] <mathiaz> hallyn: I'm going to the do the test procedure to check if it's a kernel or libvirt+qemu bug
[15:17] <sjefen6> Aint add-apt-repository a bundled "command" ?
[15:19] <sjefen6> guess not https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding Launchpad PPA Repositories
[15:20] <mathiaz> hallyn: how should the nc test be run?
[15:20] <mathiaz> hallyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/616064/comments/33
[15:21] <mathiaz> hallyn: ^^ I've setup the procedure up there
[15:28] <Doonz> Hey guys, Im running Ubuntu 10.04 server in Vmware Workstation on a windows host. My keyboard mappings on the guest OS (Ubuntu server) are all buggered up. Where is the key mapping file?
[15:36] <eagles0513875|2> any dovecot experts in here
[15:37] <patdk-wk> depends
[15:39] <eagles0513875|2> patdk-wk: how can i fixNov 11 15:41:47 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jonathan): mkdir(/home/jonathan/Maildir/cur) failed: Permission denied (euid=1000(jonathan) egid=1000(jonathan) missing +w perm: /home/jonathan)
[15:39] <eagles0513875|2> i get emails but after a while squirrelmail fails to load my inbox
[15:39] <eagles0513875|2> restarting dovecot and postfix fixes the issue
[15:45] <patdk-wk> strange
[15:45] <patdk-wk> what version of dovecot?
[15:46] <patdk-wk> I want to say it's an issue they are handling currently in the dovecot maillist
[15:46] <patdk-wk> for v2.x
[15:47] <patdk-wk> it's very very simular
[15:47] <ScottK> patdk-wk: He'll have 1.2.9
[15:49] <patdk-wk> dunno then :) never had an issue
[15:49] <hallyn> mathiaz: i don't understand what you're asking?
[15:50] <patdk-wk> but what does ls -lad /home/jonathan/Maildir show?
[15:51] <patdk-wk> can't imagine it's messed up, if it works at all, but
[15:57] <soren> ivoks: For what?
[15:57] <ivoks> soren: signed note from UDS :)
[15:58] <soren> ivoks: Oh :)
[16:01] <dwhitehead> just encountered an issue with 10.04 upgrade and mysql... won't work now
[16:03] <air^> Hello.
[16:04] <air^> Got myself a pc. Planning to run Ubuntu Server on it and have it act as a fileserver.
[16:04] <air^> I'll be using 3x2TB disks in software raid-5
[16:04] <dwhitehead> need to either get mysql back up and running (it's complaining about mysqld.sock) or get the DBs to another box
[16:04] <air^> Question is, what's the recommended way of setting up the boot partition?
[16:04] <dwhitehead> anyone able to assist?
[16:05] <air^> Separate bootdisk? Or maybe a separate raid-1 partition on 2 of the disks?
[16:06] <patdk-wk> air, I personally couldn't care less how you setup the boot partition, or even the os partition
[16:06] <patdk-wk> if it is going be used as a fileserver, and truely as one, and not a workstation
[16:07] <patdk-wk> it won't be using the boot or os drives at all
[16:07] <patdk-wk> so it won't matter how you set them up, except for boot time
[16:07] <air^> Jup. It's gonna be "headless".
[16:08] <air^> I might as well just boot from an old drive then, that's probably the easisest way and it wont mess with my raid.
[16:08] <patdk-wk> now, you might want to do a raid1 for the boot and os, just cause it makes it easier to fix, if something breaks
[16:08] <patdk-wk> or old drive :)
[16:08] <air^> I actually got two identical old drives ;)
[16:09] <air^> Could run raid-1 on those, and raid-5 on the storage drives.
[16:09] <air^> At least I'd get to know mdadm a bit more then :D
[16:09] <air^> Swap partition is probably not worth raiding, or maybe it can run raid-0 as I'll have the same amount of space free anyway.
[16:11] <patdk-wk> swap?
[16:11] <patdk-wk> if you have to use swap, you already failed
[16:11] <air^> I know, still it's needed to be setup.
[16:11]  * patdk-wk gives systems a token 256 or 512meg swap normally :)
[16:11] <air^> :)
[16:11] <patdk-wk> unless I want to hibernate
[16:12] <patdk-wk> I figure if I use all 512megs of swap, the system has been unresponve already while it used up that swap, so it crashing isn't going do more damage
[16:12] <air^> Another solution might be to boot of an usb memory, but that's probably even slower.
[16:14] <patdk-wk> have several systems that boot esxi off usb
[16:14] <patdk-wk> I generally don't care about reboot times
[16:14] <patdk-wk> they don't happen often
[16:14] <air^> can esxi handle software raid?
[16:15] <patdk-wk> raid0 :)
[16:15] <patdk-wk> actually, not even raid0
[16:15] <patdk-wk> linear raid, or whatever you want to call it
[16:20] <air^> grr. now I actually started considering esxi (vsphere)
[16:20] <air^> :P
[16:21] <air^> But then I probably end up having to buy a supported raid card. and lots of more memory :D
[16:23] <patdk-wk> esxi lets you concat drives :)
[16:23] <eagles0513875|2_> hey guys
[16:23] <patdk-wk> otherwise, hardware raid required
[16:23] <eagles0513875|2_> :)
[16:23] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: did you see my error message i was getting?
[16:23] <patdk-wk> but then, I perfer hardward raid, even on linux
[16:23] <eagles0513875|2_> re dovecot Maildir
[16:24] <patdk-wk> I saw it
[16:24] <patdk-wk> doesn't make sense
[16:24] <eagles0513875|2_> any idea how to fix it
[16:24] <eagles0513875|2_> i know it doesnt make sense
[16:24] <patdk-wk> but what does ls -lad /home/jonathan/Maildir show?
[16:24] <eagles0513875|2_> but after a while maybe an hr or so
[16:24] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: drwx------ 17 jonathan jonathan 4096 2010-11-11 15:45 Maildir/
[16:25] <eagles0513875|2_> accordign to the ubuntu dovecot wiki its suppoed to me chmod -R 700 on the maildir folder
[16:25] <hallyn> mathiaz: and, while you were doing the veth tests (an dnot hanging), were you able to hang with libvirt?
[16:25] <mathiaz> hallyn: hm - I didn't try that
[16:26] <mathiaz> hallyn: I'll set up a new test case later today
[16:26] <air^> patdk-wk: jup. but I think tha'ts gonna be a bit overkill for my personal use... but then again, I could probably run esxi from usb, use the old drives for virtual machines and have a virtual linux setup the raid-5 :D
[16:28] <patdk-wk> eagles0513875|2_ dunno :(
[16:28] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: :(
[16:28] <patdk-wk> I've just never had an issue like that
[16:29] <patdk-wk> and doesn't make much sense
[16:29] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: did you follow the ubuntu wiki's
[16:29] <patdk-wk> nope, been using dovecot long before ubuntu was around
[16:29] <eagles0513875|2_> ahh
[16:29] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: waht version are you on
[16:29] <patdk-wk> lots of mine are on 1.1, one of them is on 1.2
[16:30] <hallyn> mathiaz: i'm sorry, i need to reword that test
[16:30] <patdk-wk> I don't feel that 2.x is stable enough yet for me
[16:30] <mdeslaur> zul, mathiaz, etc.: FYI, I've published a mysql security update today, so if anything explodes, please let me know
[16:30] <hallyn> mathiaz: it's worded for a slight variation on the bug
[16:30] <patdk-wk> mdeslaur, you exploded my mailbox :)
[16:30] <hallyn> mathiaz: so please wait until i post a new recipe in bug 673705, rather than waste your time repeating the other one
[16:31] <mdeslaur> patdk-wk: give me ssh access to your box, and I'll fix it for you :)
[16:31] <mathiaz> hallyn: ok - I'll wait for your new recipe
[16:31] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: im on 1.4.20 tahts in lucid rempos the dovecot-imapd
[16:31] <patdk-wk> 1.4?
[16:31] <patdk-wk> it goes 1.1 -> 1.2 -> 2.0
[16:31] <eagles0513875|2_> whoos meant 1.2.9
[16:31] <eagles0513875|2_> im getting confused with squirrelmail
[16:32] <patdk-wk> I only have 1.1 on linux
[16:32] <patdk-wk> 1.2.13 on freebsd
[16:33] <patdk-wk> haven't had any issues with 1.2.13
[16:33] <patdk-wk> but I jumped straight from 1.1 -> 1.2.13
[16:37] <eagles0513875|2_> hey guys does lucid have selinux enabled
[16:38] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: not by default, it has apparmor enabled by default
[16:41] <eagles0513875|2_> patdk-wk: seems like apparmor is the cause
[16:41] <eagles0513875|2_> what would i ened to do to modify the configuration of apparmor
[16:41] <patdk-wk> ah, I hardly ever use it
[16:41] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor
[16:42] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: it is important to remember that apparmor as configured in Ubuntu is not system wide confinement, it is application specific. sort of like the selinux targetted policy, but still different
[16:42] <eagles0513875|2_> would you guys advise against disabling apparmor
[16:42] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: I doubt apparmor has anything to do with the issue you are having, look somewhere else
[16:42] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: I would highly advise against disabling apparmor
[16:42] <ScottK> eagles0513875|2_: I would advise against it.
[16:43] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: see the debugging page for how to determine if apparmor is causing a problem and how to fix it if it is
[16:43] <eagles0513875|2_> mdeslaur: permissions are right on folder and everything someone in dovecot told me that apparmor is the problem
[16:43] <eagles0513875|2_> ill take a look at the wiki
[16:44] <eagles0513875|2_> thats interessting
[16:44] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: we don't have a dovecot apparmor profile by default, unless you've installed one yourself
[16:45] <eagles0513875|2_> no i havent
[16:45] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: take a look at 'dmesg' and see if you have any apparmor denial messages in there
[16:45] <segv`> Got an issue, so I need kernel 2.6.34+ for my motherboard to work, but I want to install the LTS, you guys have any recommendations for achieving this?
[16:45] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: if not, apparmor isn't what is blocking you
[16:45] <eagles0513875|2_> mdeslaur: i am able to send and recieve emails fine
[16:45] <eagles0513875|2_> the problem becomes after a few hrs or so its unable to load my inbox
[16:45] <eagles0513875|2_> i have to restart postfix and dovecot
[16:47] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: well, "works for a while" is most certainly not an apparmor issue
[16:47] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: do you have auditd installed?
[16:47] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: do you have an error message from postfix/dovecot?
[16:47] <eagles0513875|2_> jdstrand: no i dont
[16:47] <eagles0513875|2_> mdeslaur: the only one i do have is that permissions issue
[16:48] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: then do something like 'grep -i denied /var/log/kern.log'. that will show you any apparmor denials
[16:48] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: you might need to look in kern.log.1, etc...
[16:48] <segv`> hmm
[16:49] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: is you home directory mounted NFS? Is it encrypted?
[16:49] <eagles0513875|2_> jdstrand: nothign showing up there
[16:49] <eagles0513875|2_> mdeslaur: encrypted O_o
[16:50] <patdk-wk> evil encryption
[16:50] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2_: doesn't sound like apparmor then
[16:50] <eagles0513875|2_> jdstrand: far from it i dont have a dovecot policy setup for it
[16:50] <eagles0513875|2_> jdstrand: is teh encrypted homedir the issue
[16:51] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: well, if your home directory isn't accessible because your user has logged out, that would probably explain it
[16:51]  * patdk-wk only does wde
[16:51] <mdeslaur> eagles0513875|2: you should try with a non-encrypted home directory
[16:53] <eagles0513875|2_> which woudl me reinstalling the entire server :(
[16:53] <segv`> so no pointers?
[16:53] <eagles0513875|2_> mdeslaur: how can i tell if the users has loged out or not
[16:53] <mdeslaur> well, when it stops working, take a look if they're home directory is still accessible
[16:54] <jdstrand> (obviously logging in as some other user than the one having the problem)
[16:55] <bluethundr> how do I allow ssh sessions into an ubuntu 10 server host
[16:56] <eagles0513875|2_> jdstrand: only have one created
[16:56] <eagles0513875|2_> alrighty guys ill bbl
[16:57] <Datz> bluethundr: if behing a nat/router, forward a port.
[16:57] <Datz> port 22 specifically
[16:57] <bluethundr> it's not a router it's a VM host I am using to build ssh
[16:58] <bluethundr> I am hosting the VM with virtual box.. and there is no copy paste support into that terminal
[16:58] <bluethundr> so I want to ssh into that terminal to paste in a rather long apt-get command
[16:58] <bluethundr> oh sorry if behind a nat / router yeah I get you
[16:58] <bluethundr> but that is what's going on
[16:59] <Datz> try to ssh into the host with the local ip address
[16:59] <bluethundr> already done
[16:59] <bluethundr> that part works :)
[16:59] <bluethundr> that is from that vm I can ssh localhost
[16:59] <bluethundr> i can ssh OUT
[16:59] <bluethundr> but I cannot SSH in
[16:59] <bluethundr> IPTABLES seem quite different from CentOS
[16:59] <bluethundr> which is what I am used to
[17:00] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2: if you only have one user account, as soon as you login the pam stack will make your home directory available
[17:02] <Datz> bluethundr: from your host, ssh into the vm with it's local IP
[17:02] <bluethundr> ah ufw is pretty nice
[17:02] <Datz> is that what was blocking?
[17:03] <bluethundr> actually that didn't quite work.. I tried ufw ssh allow and it accepted it
[17:03] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2: you also don't have to reinstall your server if this is the issue. the process is basically copy your files to another directory, remove your encyrpted directory and then move them back. http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/jaunty-encrypted-home-directories.html has some directions on going the other way, and be careful :)
[17:03] <bluethundr> but I still can't ssh in.. however from the VM host itself I can ssh into it's IP successfully
[17:03] <jdstrand> eagles0513875|2: you could also configure dovecot/procmail to put the files somewhere outside of your encrypted home
[17:03] <bluethundr> that is I can't ssh in from another host, but from the VM itself I can ssh to it's ip just fine
[17:05] <jdstrand> bluethundr: the syntax would be 'ufw allow ssh', but ufw needs to also be enabled. eg 'sudo ufw allow OpenSSH && sudo ufw enable', should do the trick (I used 'OpenSSH' there instead of 'ssh' cause the application rule is more specific than the /etc/services looked up rule)
[17:07] <jdstrand> bluethundr: oh, you want to do ssh from somewhere outside to the VM? that is likely a network configuration
[17:08] <bluethundr> I actually just want to ssh from one virtualbox host to another
[17:09] <bluethundr> from an ubuntu  desktop session which understands copy-paste to an ubuntu server virtuablbox instance that doesnt'
[17:09] <jdstrand> bluethundr: I don't recall (I don't use vbox regularly), but I think you need a special vbox network configuration for that that is not the default
[17:10] <segv`> bluethundr: bridge.
[17:10] <bluethundr> jdstrand, I hear you but I can ssh out from the ubuntu server vm into the ubuntu desktop vm
[17:10] <bluethundr> just not the other way around
[17:10] <segv`> you can go both ways with a bridge.
[17:10] <bluethundr> therefore this is seeming like a firewall issue
[17:11] <bluethundr>  I notice that there is no iptables script in /etc/init.d as there is under CentOS
[17:11] <segv`> as long as openssh-server is installed and enabled on the desktop (which it isn't by default)
[17:11] <segv`> bluethundr: ufw :)
[17:11] <jdstrand> bluethundr: if you've only used ufw on these machines, just temporarily do 'sudo ufw disable' on both until you are sure the networking is in order
[17:11] <segv`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW .
[17:11] <bluethundr> jdstrand, great thanks I'll give that a go
[17:12] <jdstrand> bluethundr: if the netowrking works, then just make sure you allow ssh on both using the ufw command I gave earlier
[17:13] <bluethundr> jdstrand, sure thanks
[17:14] <bluethundr> sigh.. both VMs have the same ip
[17:15] <bluethundr> screw it I'll just work with the desktop version for now..lol
[17:15] <segv`> bluethundr: just set the network adapter on each VM to a bridge...
[17:15] <segv`> They'll dhcp off your network and you'll be able to ssh to both of them like you would a real machine on the network.
[17:43] <MrPicard> Howdy all!, im currently trying to install etherpad onto a ubuntu cloud server but having some minor problems, the deb repov is currently not getting any data.
[17:43] <MrPicard> some index files have failed to download.
[17:44] <MrPicard> i ran this command.
[17:44] <MrPicard> sudo echo "deb http://etherpad.org/apt all ." >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:45] <Pici> sudo won't pass across io redirection operators. Use:    echo "deb http://etherpad.org/apt all ." | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:47] <MrPicard> Pici, this is what i see after running that command.
[17:47] <MrPicard> http://goo.gl/rvX0K
[17:49] <MrPicard> was just following the wiki ubuntu setup
[17:51] <jdstrand> hallyn: hey. finally get to your second merge request. approved, merged, uploaded. thanks for your hard work on it! :)
[17:51] <MrPicard> i know theres https://github.com/ether/pad but dont know if i can excute a deb
[17:54] <MrPicard> any ideas?
[17:54] <MrPicard> ...
[17:55] <MrPicard> theres also
[17:55] <MrPicard> http://code.google.com/p/etherpad/source/checkout
[17:55] <MrPicard> im just unsure of which one to pick..
[17:55] <hallyn> jdstrand: cool, thanks
[18:01] <jdstrand> soren: hi! so what is going on with vm-builder these days? I know you were going to talk to someone about the contributor agreement. has anything changed?
[18:01] <hallyn> yeah, i'd be curious about our plan for vmbuilder too
[18:02] <jdstrand> there is apparently a Debian fork now...
[18:03] <jdstrand> or at least a git repo with Debian support
[18:03] <jdstrand> http://wiki.debian.org/VMBuilder
[18:04]  * jdstrand would love Debian support in vm-builder
[18:06]  * hallyn out for remainder of day - ttyl
[18:17] <slestak> hello guys.  anyone aware of recent changes in teh rsyslog package or config?  My logs used to be owned by syslog:adm and now they are owned by syslog:syslog and my remote logging is failing
[18:18] <slestak> seems to have started a few weeks ago
[18:23] <slestak> should the syslog users primary group be syslog or adm?
[18:24] <jdstrand> hallyn: oops: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/0.8.5-0ubuntu1/+build/2042352
[18:25] <jdstrand> hallyn: ftbfs on ppc. amd64 and i386 built, armel still building. fyi 0.8.3 built fine on powerpc in maverick
[18:28] <slestak> looks liek i am running into bug 484336
[18:46] <jdstrand> hallyn: fyi, armel ftbfs too
[18:54] <reggie_> hey folks
[18:54] <reggie_> need a bit of help installing ebox onto Ubuntu server
[18:55] <reggie_> dont really want to install a full gui since that is what I am used to so far on the Ubuntu desktop side of things
[18:56] <reggie_> can anyone here offer some assistancde
[19:04] <reggie_> helloo ubuntu server land, please a bit of help
[19:10] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...what reason can be for eth0 just disapear from ifconfig?
[19:10] <Nafallo> m_tadeu: it's down? :-)
[19:11] <Nafallo> m_tadeu: ifconfig -a should show it.
[19:11] <m_tadeu> Nafallo: doens't show...only lo is displayed
[19:12] <Nafallo> interesting
[19:12] <m_tadeu> in deed....I fear a hardware problem :S
[19:13] <m_tadeu> is there any other reason for this to happen, appart from burnt NIC?
[19:15]  * Nafallo haven't used ifconfig personally in a very long time.
[19:15] <hggdh> mathiaz: what does VCS stand for (as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerMaverickDailyVCS)?
[19:15] <mdeslaur> m_tadeu: is this on a server or on a laptop? I've seen the eth card disappear before on certain laptops if nothing is plugged in it when the laptop is booted.
[19:16] <m_tadeu> mdeslaur: it's a server
[19:16] <m_tadeu> but I'll give it a try
[19:18] <m_tadeu> no luck
[19:19] <m_tadeu> what else can I do for troubleshooting?
[19:28] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. I have an ubuntu 10.04 server and i wanna upgrade the couchdb on it from version 0.10.0, which is available by default, to the newer version 1.0 (or even better, 1.0.1). How would i go about doing that?
[19:37] <m_tadeu> I guess it failed to probe my NIC...how is that possible? and what can I do about it?
[19:40] <the_archit3ct> hi, what is the cmd to launch a process which will not die when user logout ?
[19:40] <ScottK> SpamapS: Any chance you'd have a moment to fix Bug 674183?
[19:40] <adamk-pl> nohup
[19:40] <the_archit3ct> thx adamk-pl
[19:41] <adamk-pl> the_archit3ct: you welcome
[20:02] <mathiaz> hggdh: VCS stands for Version Control System
[20:02] <mathiaz> hggdh: it's another name for the daily builds
[20:03] <mathiaz> hggdh: ie provide a PPA where daily builds of latest upstream software is available (from upstream vcs (bzr, git, hg, svn, etc...))
[20:12] <hggdh> mathiaz: thank you, sounded like it but I wanted to be sure
[20:33] <cdubya> I'm wondering how many use ubuntu server for vpn access and what kind of implementation. I'm new to it and have read quite a bit, but am curious how people are using/integrating it.....
[20:34] <mathiaz> cdubya: openvpn is quite popular
[20:36] <cdubya> mathiaz, yeah, I read a bit on it......I'm not opposed to looking at it, I'm just looking to find out from others who have implementations what pros and cons they see in them.....
[20:37] <soren> jdstrand: I've not heard back yet.
[20:37] <soren> jdstrand: I should administer a mild prodding.
[20:40] <ewook_> cdubya: don't use ubu for it. zeroshell hosts the openvpn
[20:41] <ewook_> cdubya: I don't that is :P
[20:44] <cdubya> ewook_, so how does that all work as far as the routing? I mean, so your remote clients connect to zeroshell, but then.....
[20:46] <soren> jdstrand: done.
[20:48] <RoyK> hi all. any idea why my server boots on linux-image-2.6.32-23-server even though linux-image-2.6.32-25-server is installed?
[20:48] <jdstrand> heh
[21:04] <guntbert> RoyK: I assume you checked the obvious possibility already - so no idea from me :-)
[21:12] <cpruitt> First time installing Ubuntu (VMWare guest on OS X host system).  Installed Ubuntu Server 10.4.1.  Ubuntu in the VM seems to have no IP address assigned, no matter what type of VMWare networking option I choose.  Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to troubleshoot this?  I'm completely lost.
[21:14] <guntbert> cpruitt: look into /etc/network/interfaces, what does it say about eth0 ?
[21:16] <cpruitt> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/530267/
[21:18] <guntbert> cpruitt: looks fine, should use dhcp - I#m not *that* familiar with vmware but you should be able to manage the dhcp server of vmware
[21:21] <cpruitt> guntbert: I managed to get it to find an ip address with sudo dhclient eth1.  I'm just not really all that sure what that is doing, and it  wont persist after a restart.
[21:22] <guntbert> cpruitt: ah, that might be, did you assign two NICs to the VM?
[21:24] <cpruitt> guntbert: not that I'm aware and not intentionally.  It's a macbook with both wireless and ethernet cards so maybe VMWare is doing it automatically (?)
[21:25] <guntbert> cpruitt: just for "fun": replace eth0 with eth1 in that file and restart the network
[21:25] <cpruitt> I'd tried that and it told me something couldn't be found.  I'll try again (restarting rightnow)
[21:26] <ndroftheline> Hello I'm trying to set up external access to my home server
[21:27] <guntbert> ndroftheline: you will have to allow that on your router
[21:27] <ndroftheline> I have port 80 forwarded through my router, I can ping it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ but it won't serve my page to my browser
[21:27] <ndroftheline> guntbert: yeah, i had the port forwarded in my router
[21:27] <cpruitt> guntbert: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device    and    eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[21:28] <ndroftheline> lspci | grep eth
[21:28] <ndroftheline> rather, lspci | grep Eth
[21:29] <cpruitt> course, now it's saying the same for eth1
[21:29] <guntbert> ndroftheline: grep -i eth     (is easier)
[21:29] <ndroftheline> guntbert: fair enough
[21:30] <ndroftheline> well anyway i'm not sure what cpruitt's prollem is but i got my own! lol
[21:31] <cpruitt> ndroftheline: my problem, when you get down to it, is that I don't know jack about what I'm doing.  :-)
[21:31] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: is your Ethernet controller showing up when you run "lspci | grep -i eth"
[21:31] <guntbert> cpruitt: *are* there any virtual NICs in the VM?
[21:31] <ndroftheline> ah, a VM
[21:31] <ndroftheline> which vm
[21:32] <ndroftheline> !lspci
[21:32] <guntbert> ndroftheline: if I remember correctly apache does by default only listen on the localhost interface
[21:33] <ndroftheline> ohhhhh
[21:33] <ndroftheline> that would explain it
[21:33] <cpruitt> guntbert: I wouldn't even know how to create a virtual nic in VMware
[21:33] <cpruitt> ndroftheline: VMWare Fusion on OS X
[21:34] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: yeah sorry man i don't know jack about vmware
[21:34] <ndroftheline> cpruitt:
[21:34] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: but you could check if it has one by running lspci | grep -i eth
[21:34] <ndroftheline> the vertical line is a "pipe"; it's on the same key as your backslash
[21:34] <ndroftheline> it connects two commands together
[21:34] <guntbert> cpruitt: (from bad memory): look into the settings of the VM, there must be a NIC (where you changed the network mode....)
[21:35] <mrmist> there might be a seperate application to manage the vmware network (off of the host), too.
[21:36] <highvoltage> ndroftheline: is your nick Metallica related by any chance?
[21:36] <cpruitt> sorry got pulled out of my office
[21:36] <ndroftheline> highvoltage: neg. it's keith laumer's bolo series and orson scott card's Enderverse
[21:37] <highvoltage> aah
[21:38] <ndroftheline> It's actually NDR Of The Line
[21:38] <cpruitt> guntbert: I only have three options: Share the mac's connection (NAT), connect directly (bridged - I have this set to use airport instead of auto detecting) or create a private network (Host Only).  All three do the same thing.
[21:38] <ndroftheline> NDR = "Ender"
[21:38] <ndroftheline> Of the Line means it's an AI tank
[21:38] <ndroftheline> sounds kinda lame but the books are awesome (:
[21:38] <cpruitt> I'd say I must have broken something but this is a brand new install
[21:39] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: have you ever installed any other OS on VMWare Fusion and successfully gotten internet access?
[21:39] <cpruitt> ndroftheline: No.  First time installing anything on VMware.  Got it specifically for tis.
[21:39] <ndroftheline> you had to pay for it or something? does it come with support?
[21:40] <mrmist> In my fairly limited experience the NAT based stuff is the easiest to use
[21:41] <guntbert> mrmist: only if the VM gets an ip address ;-)
[21:41] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: iuno sir i might suggest u use virtualbox
[21:41] <mrmist> For sure that would seem to be an issue ;)
[21:41] <cpruitt> VMWare?  I'm sure it does.  I guess I can try to dig up a copy of windows and try installing that too.
[21:41] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: its the only one i have any experience with so i'm obviously biased but it works well
[21:42] <guntbert> cpruitt: I guess you will have to do the hard thing yourself  - read the vmware docu :-)
[21:42] <cpruitt> ndroftheline: considered virtualbox, but VMWare will let me migrate the VM to a server running VMWare
[21:42] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: oic
[21:43] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: well gl hf read the fine manual (:
[21:43] <cpruitt> guntbert: I'm on a mac.  Apple doesn't even WRITE documentation, what makes you think I'm in the habit of reading it?  ;-)  kidding.  I guess my assumption was that the VM was having the problem but maybe that's not the case
[21:44] <mrmist> Presumably the vm networking setup tool for your chosen option is showing the network as enabled?
[21:44] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: it's probably not a problem, but a 'feature' that you just have to configure right
[21:44] <cpruitt> I've used Parallels for so long with no prolems (running windows) that I sort of expected VMWare wouldn't have any either
[21:44] <cpruitt> ndroftheline: Yeah... love those "features"
[21:44] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: lol yeah no kidding
[21:45] <guntbert> cpruitt: well, on my virtualbox it works flawlessly, (but with vmware I didn't have that issue either)
[21:45] <ndroftheline> cpruitt: on th eother hand, restrictions like that make sure you don't install some bs 'OS' on a VM that immediately starts spamming your network because it gains access by default
[21:45] <ndroftheline> and then of course there's the fact that YMMV
[21:45] <ndroftheline> lol
[21:45] <cpruitt> just seems weird that I've gotten the ip to show up, just not consistently
[21:45] <ndroftheline> hey guntbert do you know what i'd need to do to make my webserver allow external access
[21:48] <guntbert> ndroftheline: look for a line with "listen" in the config files, but I'm not sure
[21:48] <mrmist> is it listening? check /etc/apache2/ports.conf  (assuming apache2)
[21:49] <ndroftheline> mrmist: it says NameVirtualHost *:80
[21:49] <ndroftheline> Listen 80
[21:50] <ndroftheline> afk 5
[21:51] <mrmist> So it looks like it should be
[21:52] <mrmist> most likely culprit then is some firewall rule, at a guess
[21:54] <EvilPhoenix> ndroftheline:  check iptables, see if it is dropping all traffic.  OR, if you're on a private network, see if the hardware firewalls send you traffic on http ports correctly
[21:54] <EvilPhoenix> and by private network i mean something like hiding behind a router or smth
[21:54] <mrmist> assuming no connectivity at all, that is.  IF there's a response from the webserver but it's just not serving hte correct page, then check the virtual hosting config
[22:08] <cpruitt> ndroftheline: guntbert: confirmed it's a VMWare issue.  Another VM with ubuntu server is not having issues.  Seems to be a problem with a duplicated VM
[22:15] <ndroftheline> !iptables
[22:16] <cpruitt> Hmmm... Does ubuntu flip out of your change a nic after the install?
[22:16] <cpruitt> *"if you change"
[22:17] <cpruitt> I think VMware is changing the virtual nic when a VM is copied and Ubuntu is "losing" it somehow.
[22:24] <ndroftheline> how can i "see if the hardware firewalls send you traffic on http ports correctly"
[22:25] <RoyK> ndroftheline: tcpdump port 80?
[22:25] <RoyK> wireshark?
[22:26] <ndroftheline> RoyK: is that a command i can input directly
[22:26] <ndroftheline> oic
[22:26] <RoyK> what exactly is it you're trying to do?
[22:26] <ndroftheline> yay
[22:26] <RoyK> wireshark is quite neat
[22:26] <ndroftheline> tcpdump
[22:27] <RoyK> tcpdump -w will dump in pcap format
[22:27] <RoyK> wireshark can read that, and wireshark is graphical and contains lots of Good Stuff for analyzing traffic
[22:27] <ndroftheline> wait...aren't results supposed to be scrolling on the screen or is it outputting it to a file
[22:27] <ndroftheline> i don't have graphical interface on this server
[22:27] <ndroftheline> its a headless
[22:28] <RoyK> tcpdump -w will write to a pcap file
[22:28] <ndroftheline> otherwise it should just scroll on the screen?
[22:28] <RoyK> then you can download that file to your pc and analyze it with wireshark
[22:28] <RoyK> yes
[22:28] <ndroftheline> here's the thing. I ran "tcpdump port 80" and accessed the basic apache webpage from my browser on a different computer on the same network
[22:28] <ndroftheline> it displays fine if I use my local address
[22:29] <ndroftheline> 192.168.2.2
[22:29] <RoyK> "local"?
[22:29] <RoyK> ok
[22:29] <ndroftheline> ok sorry
[22:29] <ndroftheline> yeah that's the static IP of my server
[22:29] <ndroftheline> static meaning its locked in at my router
[22:29] <ndroftheline> so my server always takes 192.168.2.2
[22:29] <ndroftheline> my router being 192.168.2.1
[22:29] <ndroftheline> internally
[22:29] <RoyK> so your router is doing NATing?
[22:29] <ndroftheline> i believe so. it's a standard belkin consumer router
[22:29] <RoyK> if so, you'll need to enable port forwarding in the router
[22:29] <ndroftheline> i have
[22:30]  * RoyK uses   dd-wrt :þ
[22:30] <ndroftheline> i have ports 80, 21, and 64738 forwarded to 192.168.2.2
[22:30] <RoyK> what's the IP?
[22:30] <RoyK> official?
[22:30] <ndroftheline> my IP?
[22:30] <ndroftheline> external?
[22:30] <ndroftheline> 207.47.68.117
[22:30] <RoyK> yeah, so I can try to connect
[22:31] <RoyK> ndroftheline: http://pastebin.com/55ks9ks1
[22:32] <ndroftheline> ok so why doesn't my apache webpage come up when that IP is accessed form a browser
[22:32] <ndroftheline> is it because i've only been able to try to access it from within my local network?
[22:32] <RoyK> ndroftheline: I guess that's your router answering
[22:33] <ndroftheline> oh.
[22:33] <RoyK> if so, that means your router isn't correctly configured
[22:33] <ndroftheline> fuck!
[22:33] <ndroftheline> lol
[22:33] <ndroftheline> sorry
[22:33] <ndroftheline> i mean, how can i fix this?
[22:33] <ndroftheline> my router has a "Virtual Servers" pagve
[22:33] <ndroftheline> page*
[22:34] <ndroftheline> i have both TCP and UDP forwarded to my server's IP for the ports i mentioned earlier
[22:34] <RoyK> no idea - that's a router support question - not really related to ubuntu...
[22:34] <ndroftheline> but they're not getting through my routerrrrrrrr
[22:34] <ndroftheline> lol
[22:34] <ndroftheline> ur right.
[22:34] <ndroftheline> ty tho
[23:15] <RetroGamer> hi there, I am attempting to configure a script on one of my domains in /var/domains that needs a .htaccess file
[23:17] <RetroGamer> not quite sure how to allow htaccess for just that domain, I tried putting in the site config: "<Directory /var/domains/example.com> AllowOverride All </Directory>"
[23:17] <RetroGamer> but it didn't seem to do anything